$10k a month just by sending emails - Possible?

Anything is possible, especially if you have a long, time horizon.

The question you need to ask is, how likely is it? I have my opinion, but I'd rather not start my Sunday morning off on a negative note, regardless of how accurate I might be.

Rather than creating videos tutorials, podcast, social media, I just use emails to send sub to my affiiate offers.

More than possible.

But it takes . . .

- Skill

- Time

- Investment

$10K is only $333 a day.

In other words, you can achieve it with as few as 34 PPLs a day, paying $10 a pop.

And that's just one route (PPL) which you probably won't be taking.

Being realistic . . .

The model sounds a lot easier than the reality. It isn't easy.

What I'd suggest:

If you're intent on email marketing, then use that as your hub. Use a combination of organic and paid traffic sources to feed it.

Focus on email marketing.

Master it.

You won't be earning 10K over night, but at least you'll be learning a solid form of online business.

Am I the biggest fan in the world of email marketing? No. I use it, sure, but I prefer growing socials.

But each to their own.

A list at the heart of your business? It's a good thing to own, and you'll be starting off with a solid, tried and test business model.

- Tom

It is certainly possible but will take time to build up to that level ... won't happen overnight.

I've been promoting affiliate / CPA offer for almost 18 years using nothing other than email

I heavily promote PPL (pay per lead...lead generation) offers. This is because there is no credit card / purchase required to complete an offer. All a user has to do is fill out a form, so conversion rates are typically much higher compared to offers that require a sale to be made.

I favor offers that have a make, get or save money benefit to them, as they have overall worked the best. They also tend to have the greatest mass appeal (will be of interest to a large general audience), so the potential exists to produce high volume and they are fairly easy to cross promote on the back-end.

Some of the verticals (niches) I have done extremely well with are: education, insurance, loans, debt, credit, mortgage, assistance, discount offers, homeowner offers, etc...

The bulk of the PPL offers that I promote pay $20-$40 per lead, but I also promote offers that pay more and less. You don't want to get too caught up on what an offer pays because how well it converts is just as important. For example, if you have an offer that pays $9, but if it converts at 2X or more of a $20 offer, then it will perform about the same or possibly better. At the same time, if you have an offer that pays $90 and it converts poorly, it may not even be worth promoting.

I have also done just as good with dating website sign-ups and pretty good with free trial + S/H offers. I also promote a very limited number of offers that are straight sales. For them, mass appeal is still the number one thing I look for and I also look for one of the following...

1) The product is new and/or novel-unique and you can't purchase it locally or even something similar. I don't waste my time with it once something similar shows up in Walmart.

2) The buyer can truly get what is being offered at a decent discount.

3) Solves a house is on fire type problem.

However, I mainly promote non-PPL offers on the backend.

Bottom line, it's far easier to get someone fill out a short form than to get them to pull out their credit card and make a purchase. So why struggle with trying to sell this or that, when you can provide free information that users want/need and get paid well doing it.

I drive traffic and build responsive email lists by acquiring different forms of email data.

Fresh / targeted 3rd party data, which is email leads of users that have shown an interest in a specific PPL niche or offer and have given permission to receive messages from third parties. You get the opt-in record of each user and it's 100% can-spam compliant.

Generate real-time Co-reg, which works by placing an ad for a specific PPL offer on a co-registration network and their publishers display it and users that view the ad can request more info about the offer. When a user requests more info, their contact info is automatically imported into your ESP account / campaign and they are sent a message regarding the offer. You pay on a per lead basis.

There is also rev-share data, which is basically 3rd party data (typically fresh / targeted) that you get for $0 upfront costs and you split the revenue generated from sending it with the data provider. Those that provide rev-share are typically just aggregating the data and aren't marketers and provide it to those that know how to monetize.

So with the above, I am getting fresh / targeted leads specifically for the PPL offers I'm promoting. However, they are not typically as responsive as a high-quality opt-in list that you build yourself. So to compensate for this you need to work with higher volume. This is not a big deal since the cost is much cheaper and highly scalable compared to traditional list building methods.

When mailing, you want to skim off the top any fast-track conversions and then for long-term success, you want to always be collecting your opens / clickers, segmenting and removing unresponsive users...converting the leads from quantity to quality and into responsive lists. Which you can then also cross-promote other offers on the back-end.

So basically the real reason I promote PPL offers because they provide the path of least resistance to generating conversions / $$$ and converting the data into cash producing assets.

There's actually more to it than it sounds, but done right it can be extremely profitable. Everyone that I know that is in the business and knows what they are doing, for the most part, does 6-7 figures. While that's a huge range, much comes down to one's ability to scale and effectively build / manage the infrastructure needed to scale.

Couple things I didn't mention because it is beyond anyone doing when they first start out.

You can get aged 3rd party data but it is more involved and requires special tools to do successfully.

Once you have experience, you can find companies that have opt-in / buyer lists that do little with them or nothing at all via email marketing...mainly they call all the users and or don't know anything about promoting affiliate / CPA offers to fully monetize their data. This requires more work because you have to find the companies, where the other options above it's easy to get access to the data. This is what would be considered 2nd party data, as you manage the companies data and monetize it for a percentage of the net profits generated.

Something to think about.

Where is your focus today? Where is your time being spent other than here asking about possibility? Why aren't you FOCUSED on doing it?

GordonJ

Yes Tom.

My main skill is email marketing.

I asked because I see my peers doing videos promoting themselves (self promotion), webrinars, fb marketing and podcasts to increase visibility while I am the lay back sort of guy and doesn't like to be on camera.

I am fine with writing copy, running ads and building my list and am wondering if it's possible to make $10k without being on camera (main concern).

Not seeking an overnight success, I know work is necessary.

Hi Diablo, I really like your insights and have been following your posts. Really good.

Your comments here gave me a boost in confidence.

I am not looking for overnight success, just want to validate my thoughts to see the possibility.


I am building my list and writing daily emails right now. My focus is email marketing

Hmm....any other advice?

Why?

Are you afraid to work? Afraid to interact with humans? Afraid to help people?

I'd ask those questions and get honest answers. Then you can get clearer on email marketing or maybe use these other sweet methods to serve people and to grow business.

Well it depends on many factors and i am not an expert to give you a clare opinion .But what i learn in my affiliate marketing road over the years its to not put your eggs in a single basket .Maybe combine emails and youtube

I guess someone has to take the other side of things. 10k/month is not only doable with just offers it's actually rather easy as long as you have a few things in place.

Obviously you have to build a list, have the right niche and mail the right offers.

It's a numbers game. A 100k list with a low 10% open and 10% CTR will generate 1000 clicks per email. At .50 EPC, thats $500/email. Email every other day gets you $7500/month.

This would be on the low side.

Very good thread and advice to the fated82. I read Diablos post with great advice twice. I'm just getting back into email marketing after 6 years off. Mostly going to do pay per lead till I get good at it again 2018 styles.

Yes you can if you have large subscriber list, but the reality is you need to use all sort of marketing methods including social media in order to build your list fast.

More than possible. I know many people, who earn $2k per day. But it is very difficult. It depends on your patience and hard work.

I know some people that do it, but only after building a good relationship with the people on that list...

How do you plan on getting those leads coming in if you're not doing marketing and by the way webinars are the best thing if you want to sell high ticket affiliate products.

All the affiliate marketing gurus at the moment are teaching email marketing together with Facebook ads. If you can target the right people in ads you can do it.

You don't need to show your face on the ad. If you use video you can outsource the presenter or voiceover.

You don't have to be on camera to make videos and you don't have to be on Facebook all day promoting webinars. I encourage you to follow your email marketing inclinations, but I'd also encourage you to add some other strategies to your mix.

Learning how to be effective with emails, writing them, getting comfortable with an autoresponder can certainly take some time at first, but you should devote some of your marketing time to learning other skills. Not putting your eggs in one basket is an old cliche, but worth considering. No doubt, though, that email marketing is not quite as effective as it once was, at least in my experience.

I'm still struggling to use Instagram with a PC. You never know what's going to catch on in internet marketing. Voice search? Messaging? Periscope? Like the Google algorithm updates, change and successful tactics can change very quickly.

Yes, it can be. But first you will spend money for it.

Yes it is possible to earn this and more. A marketing technique I recommend is writing articles to online/offline publications with an audience relevant to your offers. You'll need a strong optin-page incentivized with a free or low-cost bonus of a high perceived value. It will take a few years of hard work and dogged persistence to build up to that income level, but there are people doing this now selling Clickbank, Amazon, and other affiliate products.

Sure anything is possible. However, is it realistic? It takes a lot of hard work and dedication to do all of this. Affliliate marking is tough, however is 10k/mo real, why yes it is! I would say you would want to put some effort into Social Media marketing because you get faster results. Sure you can do solo ads, but why not focus where the emotion is at. That is why advertisers for large corporations do what they do. Emotion sells...

What quantifiable actions are you going to take to drive traffic to your optin and offers? How much time do you have? How much money can you budget to buy traffic?

Sure it's possible, but i think there are a lot of other easier ways to get 10k per month.

Let me ask...

Why would you ask others what is possible?

Why not set it in stone, as to a goal you want to reach,
and then work your tail off to figure out the steps and knowledge
you'll need.

You don't need anyone else to tell you "Yes or No".

You only need to truly decide what you want and then
figure out how to get there... working your ass off in the process.

There will ALWAYS be people telling you that something can't
be done.

Does listening to anyone else matter?

The only person you have to convince about whether you
can do something... is yourself.

Yes is definitely possible!

But...

It is going to take some time to reach it. Collecting thousands of quality email addresses isn't going to happen in a week.

However, if you are willing to achieve this using the paid route it would speed the process up.

You need to optimize properly your landing page in order to get the most out of your money.
Take a look at Facebook ads, Bing ads, Adwords, but also solo ads. Latter has the potential to deliver quality leads depending on the vendor.

Free traffic doesn't cost you anything except time, which is really valuable in my opinion.

If you have a list (of at least 5k), then webinar JV's would typically be the best way for you to monetize your list, so I don't know why you'd want to avoid them . . . they usually convert about 10 times as well as a sales-page or sales-video, and sell the same product at a higher price with less refunds too.

If you are concerned about YOU having to make webinars . . . that's not how it usually works . . . the webinar would be made by the creator of the course or service, although if you'd be willing to make a brief introduction, that will help conversions (it's very easy to do), so yes, with webinar JV's you'd not have to do much other than just send emails.

Some list-owners won't even talk to a webinar JV-broker unless the webinar produces $50 PER LIST MEMBER, and a typical set of webinars is 1 week. That is 200 times the profit from the same list, compared to most mailing-lists which average around $1 per month per member, using the usual sales-pages etc.

Chris

If you provide value to your list and develop a relationship based on trust and goodwill, 10k/month can be achieved with a small email list.

Just don't pitch them every day cause you're going to lose subscribers and people won't trust you.

As a general guideline, only promote things you personally bought/use that you think will genuinely help your audience. I think 3 value emails for every 1 pitch email is a good guideline to follow. Hope you make it happen man

It's absolutely possible but you still need to provide some value. Otherwise you'll burn through your list in double quick time.


You should nurture the list, provide value and they will be more open to buy what you recommend.


If you just send out affiliate promotions in every email then your open rate will drop down to almost nothing. So you'll need to keep churning and burning your list regularly to keep more people coming in.


If you nurture a list properly by giving them value though, even a small list can make you $10k a month if done right.

It depends on how good your list is in terms of buying. It is possible to make money from email marketing using affiliate for sure. Generally if your list is strong, people will respond if you are offering a good product/service.

Good luck!

Just curious. How do you build a list without doing video tutorials, webinars, social media marketing, and all sort of things?

It's possible if:

1. You find the right niche
2. You build your list and PROVIDE tons of value to that list, so they like you, know you and trust you
3. You offer products and services that SOLVE their problems

To make the big money you will need the right niche, a BIG list (because of email deliverability issues, lots of hard work and patience. In most cases, you will need a list of at least 15k people (and probably more) to make that type of money, although there are a ton of factors that can affect that.

Email marketing is my # 1 source of income. It is alive and well, but it is constantly changing.

Yes it is possible..

Build your list in a profitable niche,provide value and then promote other people's offers,webinars,videos etc you don't have to do the webinars and offers yourself.

I don't know if this helps because I have not understood a lot from your question..

you can probably make $5,000 doing that if you are willing to invest to get a big list... i see people making $100 / $200 per day just sending promo emails all time.. so, it is possible.

Well that is how us experienced bloggers and internet marketers. as the saying goes the money is in the list. However it will take a while to build a size-able email list.

Yes the top affiliate marketers make more then $10k per month But if you have just started you have to build your business. You need a lot of people to join your list thousands. Then you stand a chance. But the top marketers like Omar Martin and Michael Cheney I work with both have professional squeeze pages. On top of that the emails are also the best money can buy. Unless you are willing to spend a lot of money or time to build your list to thousands. I think you should look for something else.