One reason for the drop in Warrior Forum engagement?

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The other day I visited the WF on my phone for the first time and was immediately hit with the feed view.

As bad as that is, check out how it looked on my phone...

...Notice every post is dated a year ago.

Now, I know WHY it does this, and it can be changed with a couple of taps.

But that's not my point.

This is: Imagine coming here for the first time, or returning after a while away. The immediate impression is that this place is dead and hasn't been updated for a year.

It's not obvious that the 'most recent' option is available, at least not on my phone (iPhone XS).

What do you guys see when you look at the default feed view on your phone?



#drop #engagement #forum #reason #warrior
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    I've noticed that, too. I do the same clicks to get to the newer posts but it took me a few visits to figure it out. If I were visiting for the first time I'd also think, "Well, that place is dead."

    Considering how many people visit on their phones it's not the best first impression.

    Rose
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  • Profile picture of the author dana67
    I've noticed this as well. In my opinion, you want to make your site look active and vibrant as a first impression. This goes for any site, forum, blog, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    I use classic so that's what I see on my phone. I can't stand the modern view.

    Mark

    PS Next time you write something about the modern view, do it at other times than meal times okay? Please? Now, my breakfast is ruined!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    By the way, that's exactly what surfers on desktops that aren't logged-in members get too.

    Who wants to come into a forum with seemingly only those old posts?

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
    It's the only view I can get logged out on iPad too...
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    I actually never noticed.. I always switch to the desktop theme even from my mobiles... but yeah that's def not a good thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Hi Mick,

    Boom. I always log in on the Chromebook so have absolutely no idea how it looks on mobile. I do live videos on my phone than avoid it like the plague LOL. I know most folks do the phone thing so only imagine first time visitors or folks returning to Warrior after months or years write it off with the recent update being 1 year ago. I do this when I see a suggested forum with the most recent post a few months ago, let alone a year.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    We all know what..


    "The Current State of the Internet"


    is..


    and now all we have to figure out is what is..


    "The Current State of the Warrior Forum"


    The answer is out there..


    The Warrior Forum Powers obviously use the modern view and will never see this thread..


    Fret Not! Visitors will definitely see the Ads and that is all that matters to the Warrior Forum Powers.


    It must be true as I read it in a post from a year ago.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Hunsons
    I couldn't create thread and it was not published.
    Well, this website has many annoying bugs((
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  • Profile picture of the author SiteNameSales
    Not the only reason. Social media, and Facebook in particular, making a dent. I know some dislike Facebook, but there are literally 100s of groups on there dealing with similar topics. Finding a way to connect on that platform would help the Forum. At the very least, an ad campaign to attract new members.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
      Originally Posted by SiteNameSales View Post

      At the very least, an ad campaign to attract new members.
      When Freelancer took over this is one of the first things they did. The result? Thousands of non native English speaking members.

      Overnight it became difficult to read and understand and communicate in English. That effect is still here today. And despite the thousands of new members, it is one of the reasons for less engagement. No one knows what is or isn't being said.

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      • Profile picture of the author TenaciousGrease
        Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

        When Freelancer took over this is one of the first things they did. The result? Thousands of non native English speaking members.

        Overnight it became difficult to read and understand and communicate in English. That effect is still here today. And despite the thousands of new members, it is one of the reasons for less engagement. No one knows what is or isn't being said.

        Mark

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  • Profile picture of the author HarrieB
    Maybe u should bring this to Gabriel's attention...
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
      Originally Posted by HarrieB View Post

      Maybe u should bring this to Gabriel's attention...
      Issues raised in the mod and WAB boards rarely get answered, no judgement from me on whatever the reason.

      Also, social proof.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
        Originally Posted by Michael Meaney View Post

        Issues raised in the mod and WAB boards rarely get answered, no judgement from me on whatever the reason.

        Also, social proof.
        Probably because they use the modern view and only see posts from a year ago. The good news is a year from now they might see it
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
          Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

          Probably because they use the modern view and only see posts from a year ago. The good news is a year from now they might see it
          That's hilarious Jeffery.

          My sudden outburst of laugher has made the coffee shop fall silent. #awkward
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by HarrieB View Post

      Maybe u should bring this to Gabriel's attention...
      That he's not aware is a scarier thought than he is aware, but not doing anything about it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Gabriel
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        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

        That he's not aware is a scarier thought than he is aware, but not doing anything about it.
        I'm well aware of what is going on.
        And It' complex issue

        What Mike mention regarding the "recent" posts in the feed, in fact we deleted over 300, so when Mike screenshot it we were cleaning old ones, trying to add new ones.

        So that i 1 point

        Mike raises a valid point, but is not based on the screenshot. (just)

        Now.... I can't talk about Freelancer decisions, I agree usually with 90% of the points here. I think removing the old mods and adding Paid mods was a horrible idea and in many cases I also miss the old UI from the Old Warrior Forum.

        I dislike having 2 versions, modern and classic....

        When I started the changes of the UI were already implemented, "Modern view vs classic view" and I also believe that a new UI could help a lot the engagement and clearly FB groups represent a smoother way to interact in the Forum.

        I'm also aware sometimes flowing from one section to the other one is super confusing.

        So I'm 100% aware of this issues, but in many cases some things that I would like to change, improve, alter, they haven't been implemented for one reason or not.

        Our goal is to improve the traffic, while we have a better marketplace , and I agree that if the site is not what you guys want then we are going to fail in that process.

        I doubt we can ever bring the old version I'm afraid
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        • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
          Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post



          Now.... I can't talk about Freelancer decisions,...

          So I'm 100% aware of this issues, but in many cases some things that I would like to change, improve, alter, they haven't been implemented for one reason or not.

          Our goal is to improve the traffic, while we have a better marketplace
          Well, we don't walk in Gab's shoes, and have no idea of what he deals with at a corporate level, so I tend to cut him some slack, albeit he is the "face" of Warrior.

          THEIR goal, to have a better marketplace, has to be translated, I think, as a corporate demand for increased profits. THEY want their investment to PAY off, add to the bottom line, even if only slightly.

          THEY look at numbers, and $$$$ signs. We are data.

          How THEY measure is unknown, but most corporate bean counters operate a similar system which says, this "division" is costing us _______ and bringing in _____

          and if the income isn't covering expenses, then resources are reassigned, as we have seen here in recent months.

          WE have provided some simple, some spectacularly easy fixes, ideas and offered to help...but we, the DATA, are only seen through googly eyes of $$$$$.

          What WE have to do, is do what we want. IF you like to participate, and give advice, opinions and share experiences, by all means DO SO.

          IF we want to slowly fade away, visiting only now and then and seeing the same old same old, we are free to do that.

          Just my opinion, but about 80% of all the WF problems could be solved with one solution, a BEGINNER'S GUIDE, along with an electronic signature of acknowledgement it has been read. All the rules, costs, explanations, guides, and with an eye toward getting newbs into THEIR MARKETPLACE would take care of a lot of it.

          This solution, like many other ideas have been given to Freelancer, and like most ideas, it isn't DATA to look at.

          So, visit here without expectation, knowing it is what it is, and deciding to participate or not. I surrendered my War Room membership a couple of years ago, and have seen no reason to reinvest in it or in any other WF market.

          I vote by keeping my money in my wallet. Never buy from an ad, a link, a WSO and believe that someday, FL will get the message from it's DATA points.

          GordonJ (a bit and byte of DATA at WF)
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          • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
            Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

            Just my opinion, but about 80% of all the WF problems could be solved with one solution, a BEGINNER'S GUIDE, along with an electronic signature of acknowledgement it has been read. All the rules, costs, explanations, guides, and with an eye toward getting newbs into THEIR MARKETPLACE would take care of a lot of it.
            This along with a robust collection of Stickies would do as you say, but this has been proposed many times over the years and met with total silence. Not even a valid argument against it has ever been offered.

            I don't know how the numbers are interpreted, but if it's simply a matter of quantity, with a total disregard for quality, then we will only see more of the same.

            In the past 3 months even the most diehard knowledgeable posters have drifted away, some making a very brief appearance for a post or two, but you can tell that they have had the life sucked out of them and are only still trying to help at some level because it's part of their DNA and they can't help themselves. Rarely are they even rewarded with a heartfelt thank you and more often than not - if they don't subscribe to the poster's preconceived notions (as in the answer they want to hear - not need to hear) they are pelted with hostility. Yet, they soldier on.

            It's now become the blind leading the blind. An endless stream of the same basic and oftentimes ridiculous questions that could be answered with a simple Google search. These are followed by an even larger endless stream of the same regurgitated answers, usually either off-point, incorrect and more often that not, totally ludicrous non-responsive comments - based on opinion and rarely on knowledge or demonstrable fact.

            Also, as far as the numbers go, what I see are new members that make 10 posts in one day, rarely relevant to the thread that needed nothing more than a tap of the 'Thanks' button, and then they are gone - rarely if ever to be seen, again. That's not counting the one day spammers.

            One thing I've noticed about forums? Things never change. Rarely for the better, at least. The only thing that changes are the procession of new voices who's first act is to say how they are going to change things. Then they discover that the free hand they were promised to implement change was not real. It was what was needed to be said to get them on board and excited - to believe that they could have a positive impact on a worsening situation. Who, among us, wouldn't take that challenge, head on? I know I would. Lucky for me, I already have and learned my lesson the hard way. That's why if I don't own it - lock, stock and barrel - I won't invest a minute of my dwindling and precious time in it. And that has absolutely nothing to do with my age. Regardless of how old you are you need to be clear on the fact that everyone's time is dwindling and precious. Don't throw it away on people that talk a lot of shit, but won't let you do what you want to do and hopefully know how to do and then you wind-up looking incompetent - BECAUSE OF THEM!!!! Well, you asked for it. You got it.

            One of the secrets to a happy and productive life is knowing when you are being played for a sucker, showing a little self-love and telling someone to shove it. Not only is it healthy, it's feels great. lol

            And so it goes!
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post

          I doubt we can ever bring the old version I'm afraid



          It doesn't really matter because things being discussed are not that important. People would work past the design issues if the content was worth it on the forums. Its not.

          That started before FL bought WF. The product had become the advertising rather than the product being monetized by the advertising. Kiss of death.

          Still they really drove a stake to the heart when they flooded the forums with people who could barely speak or read the language. Then they flat out stated - "not going to happen" to any suggestion to correct that readership issue. Increasing traffic isn't going to do you much good because without great content traffic will just bounce back out. Encourage the community to share more? You are not going to get much more than fluff and intro piece kind of content now . The unspoken reality is that people mostly put out comprehensive detailed content in the past for one main thing - good sig link traffic.

          the "help out other warriors" and "give back to the community" was for cupcakers. Serious marketers have to see something in return before putting down for free the kind of content they could sell. Its a marketing forum after all not the Salvation Army and even if it were part Salvation Army the Salvation Army doesn't raise advertising dollars for corporations.

          The only thing that saves this place is if you turn to the few left that have some expertise (or look back and look to those who used to be around - not a self pitch because I am less and less in marketing with each month) and show them how they are going to benefit financially from improving your real product.

          Thing is thats probably the last thing corporate will want to talk about. I suspect the accountants have ran the numbers and theres already been a profit while the forum was still humming. They are probably in freeze the budget and squeeze as much money as you can till it dies mode - not lets reinvest.
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          • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            It doesn't really matter because things being discussed are not that important. People would work past the design issues if the content was worth it on the forums. Its not.
            It is TEDIOUS.

            And only those with a siphon in the tank of evergreen hope and fantasy, sucking out a few drops from the desperate are not weary from the continued indifference of those who profit.

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      • Profile picture of the author Gabriel
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        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

        That he's not aware is a scarier thought than he is aware, but not doing anything about it.
        I'm aware 100% and if it was my decision 100% then I don't think this could have been fixed a while ago
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        • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
          Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post

          I'm aware 100% and if it was my decision 100% then I don't think this could have been fixed a while ago
          My post was poorly worded and I apologize.

          I should have said: "That he might not not aware is a scarier thought than he is aware, but not doing anything about it."

          Not a big difference, but an honest one and more in line with what I was trying to communicate. :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author TenaciousGrease
    Another big reason is the fact that the aussies bought it, and had NO moderation forever it seems. Even NOW you stil finds posts on FaceBook, SEO, PPC in the general forum. Before, Paul would move those right away to the correct forum.


    This lack of care in the WF Drove away all the REAL marketers who used to spend time here.


    Hell, I'm a real marketer (just incognito), and I just come back every now and then for the LOLz
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  • Profile picture of the author AceOfShirts
    One of the things that has caused me to visit less is the new War Room. They are right, it was getting a little too much low quality stuff posted, but I rarely see anything at all posted now. Glad I joined it years ago when it was a one time fee. I know I wouldn't be paying the annual fee for what is in there now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Iannotti
    I agree, I wish they went back to the old WF look and feel.
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  • Profile picture of the author luciesmazanska
    You are right Michael Meaney I see the same
    Well they have also an option to show recent posts
    But in general old posts appear first and c'mon WF 1 year old posts? Seems really inactive for a new visitors
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  • Profile picture of the author SiteNameSales
    The 'real' marketers are now doing live presentations of Facebook, LOL. If you feel it's still worth contributing here, then by all means do so.

    Somebody who can't speak English isn't going to be following you in any case and if you think this a major problem then, by all means, contribute elsewhere. Plenty of groups on FB now.

    Still, at the end of the day, if you're an experienced marketer, you won't get much out of this site unless you put something in. Critiques get a lot of views, and these have merit, but they won't do a lot to build your business.
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    • Profile picture of the author writeaway
      Originally Posted by SiteNameSales View Post

      The 'real' marketers are now doing live presentations of Facebook, LOL. If you feel it's still worth contributing here, then by all means do so.

      Somebody who can't speak English isn't going to be following you in any case and if you think this a major problem then, by all means, contribute elsewhere. Plenty of groups on FB now.

      Still, at the end of the day, if you're an experienced marketer, you won't get much out of this site unless you put something in. Critiques get a lot of views, and these have merit, but they won't do a lot to build your business.
      And the "real" marketers are complaining how FB is squeezing them out due to HIGH AD COSTS

      Personally, I think it's a good thing that FREELANCER.COM bought WF. For the longest time, WF was the online HQ of GET RICH QUICK SCHEMES. Just look at the crazy income claims from past WSOs.

      The bottom line? IM is REAL work.
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    Originally Posted by Michael Meaney View Post

    Issues raised in the mod and WAB boards rarely get answered, no judgement from me on whatever the reason.

    Also, social proof.
    I brought it up to Gab over a year ago. The response was that I had a bad attitude and was being negative.
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      I brought it up to Gab over a year ago. The response was that I had a bad attitude and was being negative.
      Well, that's Gab for you. Always stating the obvious. :-)

      That said, stay off my turf. That's my reputation and I sticking to it.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

        Well, that's Gab for you. Always stating the obvious. :-)

        That said, stay off my turf. That's my reputation and I sticking to it.
        There is always room for another difficult smartass.
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        • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          There is always room for another difficult smartass.
          I rarely if ever, leave any room for anything.
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      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      I brought it up to Gab over a year ago. The response was that I had a bad attitude and was being negative.

      That was probably true. You should have been more mellow like me back in the day..lol
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      • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        That was probably true. You should have been more mellow like me back in the day..lol
        And you both would be better-off, following my lead for friendly interaction.
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          Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

          And you both would be better-off, following my lead for friendly interaction.

          You always did bring a tear to my eye with your warmth.
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          • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            You always did bring a tear to my eye with your warmth.
            I'm known as the Ghandi of the Internet.

            That tearing-up you experienced, was probably from my flatulence.
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  • Profile picture of the author roberthull99
    Yeh, I didn't quite understand the feed view either. At first I replied to a post there, and my post got deleted because I was supposedly bumping an old thread. If these threads are all old, then why are they the very first thing I see when I visit the forum?
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  • Profile picture of the author Gabriel
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    Originally Posted by Michael Meaney View Post

    The other day I visited the WF on my phone for the first time and was immediately hit with the feed view.

    As bad as that is, check out how it looked on my phone...

    ...Notice every post is dated a year ago.

    Now, I know WHY it does this, and it can be changed with a couple of taps.

    But that's not my point.

    This is: Imagine coming here for the first time, or returning after a while away. The immediate impression is that this place is dead and hasn't been updated for a year.

    It's not obvious that the 'most recent' option is available, at least not on my phone (iPhone XS).

    What do you guys see when you look at the default feed view on your phone?




    Yes we deleted over 250 or so from the feed to add new ones , from dec 1st to the 4th. So that screenshot is accurate, we were adding new ones after deleting old ones.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
      Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post

      Yes we deleted over 250 or so from the feed to add new ones , from dec 1st to the 4th. So that screenshot is accurate, we were adding new ones after deleting old ones.
      Would a quick fix be to make 'most recent' the default tab, so you won't have to continuously keep deleting threads?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
      Originally Posted by wilmar07 View Post

      It may sound self-promotional, but as long as you're also answering questions and participating in the community, your thread will be received with open arms.

      It does not sound self-promotional.


      It has nothing - absolutely nothing - to do with this thread.
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      • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
        Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

        It does not sound self-promotional.

        It has nothing - absolutely nothing - to do with this thread.
        A perfect example of 'continued forum degradation.'
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    So I'm 100% aware of this issues, but in many cases some things that I would like to change, improve, alter, they haven't been implemented for one reason or not.

    I've seen that in the past year and admire you for trying. Freelancer chose 'feed view' - now called 'modern view' years ago. Even though it wasn't working well - or popular with members - Freelancer made 'modern view' the default.


    Most new members - and some older ones - don't know they have a choice to click their user name in the black toolbar and switch to 'view classic'.


    That a 'forum view' requires Admin to manually delete/reorganise threads to make the forum current....doesn't make sense to me. But I don't own the forum....so...
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

    and now all we have to figure out is what is..

    "The Current State of the Warrior Forum"

    The answer is out there..
    Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

    Probably because they use the modern view and only see posts from a year ago. The good news is a year from now they might see it
    Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post

    Our goal is to improve the traffic, while we have a better marketplace , and I agree that if the site is not what you guys want then we are going to fail in that process.

    I doubt we can ever bring the old version I'm afraid

    There is the answer. Corporation wise it is understandable.
    One of the best ways to improve traffic and have a better marketplace is to send all traffic to the marketplace.
    The forum is secondary since there the forum monetization is less than the marketplace monetization.


    The traffic to the "current" front page sees the Marketplace WSOs.
    The traffic to the "current" front page also sees forum posts a year old.
    User wise they may be more interested in current content such as current WSOs.
    Corporate wise, the traffic to the WSOs is all they care about, so in one sense (er ploy) the forum posts form a year ago serve the purpose

    Don't be too surprised, one day, the present WarriorForum front page is replaced by the marketplace front page with a link to the forum.


    Thank you Gab. Hat off to you Sir.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrdeflation
    Originally Posted by Michael Meaney View Post

    The other day I visited the WF on my phone for the first time and was immediately hit with the feed view.



    I don't understand as EVERY forum is dead and dying.... yet MORE and more people are getting into IM


    Where the fark is everyone hanging out online?


    Its not FB groups.... not forums...


    Where the fark are all the IM'ers?
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      Originally Posted by mrdeflation View Post

      I don't understand as EVERY forum is dead and dying.... yet MORE and more people are getting into IM

      Where the fark is everyone hanging out online?

      Its not FB groups.... not forums...

      Where the fark are all the IM'ers?

      At Christmas time the low-hanging IMers are at a sunny beach somewhere and the rest of us here complaining. Don't worry the low-hangers will be back.
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    • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
      Originally Posted by mrdeflation View Post

      I don't understand as EVERY forum is dead and dying.... yet MORE and more people are getting into IM


      Where the fark is everyone hanging out online?


      Its not FB groups.... not forums...


      Where the fark are all the IM'ers?
      Every, all, entire...

      Are never true. Absolutely. You seem to be speaking about IM forums, and they hang out, YES...at Facebook groups, private sites, Amazon, Google and social media.

      Business forums, which may include IM are still around, in fact we've more than doubled our members within the last few months. It is about being known, then being relevant and then having a platform which either rewards participation or the rules are clearly known and violators get the message from day one.

      As a "marketplace", the WF is like Save-A-Lot but thinks of itself as Whole Foods. .

      And many people just don't want the stuff from unknown places.

      GordonJ

      PS. Plus some forums just don't want what the WF attracts.
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  • tbh WF is mobile friendly as a statue encased in ice.

    That is why I look in on my spirit guides whenevah I ain't at my desk.

    They dish all the essential deets on evrythin' gowin' down on WF while simultaneously beamin' Granpa reminiscin' at total frickin' random.

    I may, in the fyootyure, proffer a WSO detailin' how to max out on involuntary multitaskin' while bendin' yourself all stoopid on life's relaxational Yoga mat.

    I am srsly aheada the game that way ...
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    Originally Posted by mrdeflation View Post

    I don't understand as EVERY forum is dead and dying.... yet MORE and more people are getting into IM
    Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post

    tbh WF is mobile friendly as a statue encased in ice.
    The modern view might be more mobile friendly (which is probably why FL make it the default view) but mobiles are not discussion friendly. That's probably a significant factor in the decline of forum engagement in general, regardless of the interface.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    It is about being known, then being relevant and then having a platform which either rewards participation or the rules are clearly known and violators get the message from day one.

    As a "marketplace", the WF is like Save-A-Lot but thinks of itself as Whole Foods. .
    Good analogy - hadn't thought of it that. Walmart vs Macy's. Brand name vs generic. Part is the traffic the 'modern view' attracts and part the willingness to tolerate it.

    Unfortunately the Marketplace reflects that same 'off brand'aproach - with sellers building their own 'big threads' with repeated ad copy - nonsense posts by members, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tuned Hosting
      Well, I'm glad to see people can actually still get a forum post up on this site... I've tried to post several articles the last few months with no luck.



      I tried to post a similar post titled 'Is the Warrior Forum and Other Sites Like It Dead From the Waist Down?', on the site a few weeks ago about this same issue.


      My post was deleted by the moderators, apparently I was 'too hard' on the forum with my comments and they deleted and gave me this as a reply:


      "Your thread: Is the Warrior Forum and Other Sites Like It Dead From the Waist Down? has been deleted!

      Reason: come on man

      Best regards,

      The Warriorforum Team"




      Seriously? 'come on man'?



      As a someone with a WSO offer up and someone who also has been asking unsuccessfully for MONTHS to be added as a verified warrior member and also trying to get answers as to why I can't seem to get a single new post to list on the site, even to the 'support forum', when I have been a member for years, this and another profile that I think is 10 years old now, plus thinking of all the money I have spent on this site, really annoys me.


      For me, even the desktop view shows very few new forum posts under Internet Marketing forum, etc., (3 or so in a week?) which is why I posted my post originally that was deleted.


      The traffic feels dead on this site, like the people who are here, have and are the same people who have been here...



      It has been like this for many, many, many months, but apparently we shouldn't talk about it as the lords of the castle don't like that sort of talk.
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        Originally Posted by Tuned Hosting View Post

        apparently we shouldn't talk about it as the lords of the castle don't like that sort of talk.

        It may be hard for them to look into the mirror on the wall and see that they are no longer the fairest in the land.
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          Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

          It may be hard for them to look into the mirror on the wall and see that they are no longer the fairest in the land.
          I love Snow White Wisdom Quotes
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          Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

          It may be hard for them to look into the mirror on the wall and see that they are no longer the fairest in the land.
          Most people know that I have owned that title, for decades.
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