Terrible Products are an insult to warriors...

14 years ago

there are some excellent sites available here on this forum from time to time but there are many more just rubbish i have to agree with you sahail you have made some very valid points in your excellent post.

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George Wright

14 years ago

I don't get it.

How is it an insult if you see up front what you are going to get. If you don't like it don't buy it.

The insult would be if you were led to believe one thing and it turned out to be inferior and way different than portrayed.

You see the grammar, if it offends you don't buy it.

I don't know what sites you are referring to but there are some brilliant web developers here whose first language is not English and in many cases the URL and the design are well worth the price. If you don't like the articles you can always rewrite them.

What you see is what you get. That seems fair to me.

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Originally Posted by sahail

Hi, recently joined, and enjoying it.

But something is bothering me. Many of the 'websites for sale' have content on them that includes appalling articles as regards grammar and overall quality.

Am I wrong for pointing this out?

Why would I purchase a site that contains poor content?

Not being rude, but if I spend money I want the very best.

Anyone else got any thoughts on this. We are talking basic good use of language here. And what annoys me the most is when the sellers claim to have 'professionally produced content' on their sites.

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David McAnulty 14 years ago

I would have to agree with George on this one. Unless you are experiencing a slight of hand or an uncontrollable urge to purchase terrible products then I would be spinning this is a positive light.

Think more as you have the ability to spot worthless products which is more than others can say, especially if they are purchasing the same products you are looking would you not agree.

If you want another positive angle you can look at it like this. If they are creating cuh terrible products then why not come in right behind them and create something of real value and blow then out of the water.

While I can understand the point you were trying to make I say there is always two sides to the coin. Ying and Yang, the good and the bad.
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chrisgarrett

14 years ago

When I see a website for sale that has great potential but that potential is not being achieved then I am thrilled, I don't feel cheated.

I bought a domain for $200 and sold it for $5,000

Could I have done that if the design, content and promotion had been top notch BEFORE I bought it? No chance!

Take a poorly written website for sale as an opportunity to refurbish and flip!

Now bad products, I am with you there. But there are normally money back guarantees even then.

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getsmartt

14 years ago

Originally Posted by chrisgarrett

When I see a website for sale that has great potential but that potential is not being achieved then I am thrilled, I don't feel cheated.

I bought a domain for $200 and sold it for $5,000

Could I have done that if the design, content and promotion had been top notch BEFORE I bought it? No chance!

Take a poorly written website for sale as an opportunity to refurbish and flip!

Now bad products, I am with you there. But there are normally money back guarantees even then.

Ditto...

let the bad grammer, poor site design, or other problems drive the price down so I can pick it up and flip it quick

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Dennis-White

14 years ago

Originally Posted by chrisgarrett

When I see a website for sale that has great potential but that potential is not being achieved then I am thrilled, I don't feel cheated.

I bought a domain for $200 and sold it for $5,000

Could I have done that if the design, content and promotion had been top notch BEFORE I bought it? No chance!

Take a poorly written website for sale as an opportunity to refurbish and flip!

Now bad products, I am with you there. But there are normally money back guarantees even then.

Great point!

To The OP: If the website is not up to par or the way you like it.. it's ok just move on until you find one that appeals to you. There's no reason to come in here saying there all rubbish, someone spent time on their site and what may sell to one person another might not want it...

Sometimes you can get a underdeveloped site that is a little poor for cheap fix and flip for double, this is where being a smart shopper comes into play

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madison_avenue

14 years ago

If you are running a business it's up to you to do "due diligence" before you buy. WSO's are no different to any other purchase you make for your business.

I have to say though, the vast majority of WSO's I have brought have been excellent value for money and have either brought me a great return or told me something of value.

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sbucciarel

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by sahail

Not being rude, but if I spend money I want the very best.

In the WSO sections you are probably not spending enough money to buy "the very best". The sites are bargains and you normally get them for dirt cheap so if you want better content, write it or outsource it.

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sahail

14 years ago

Hi,

suppose what I was originally getting at was the 'turnkey' concept, or 'plug and play'.

I am a freelance writer, and cannot stand the fact that people call their content 'professionally written' when it clearly is not.

Even if English is not your first language, you are still in business, and should present with the very best. And 'the best' have been on this very forum.

I am in business, and find it insulting to see a 'turnkey' offering that is nothing more than a shell of a blog set-up that has horrendous grammar.

I would only buy the best anyway, and don't see the point of buying inferior stuff I have to rewrite.

Guess that is my point. Sorry for annoying anyone. Very proud to be here, and think we should all be looking for excellence. I have seen some shocking so-called 'turnkey' products. That is all I am ranting about

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George Wright

14 years ago

Same thing restated. Same answer (see my post above.)

George Wright. P.S. If you are a writer then these type of sites should be a gold mine for you. P.P.S. I see you are a WarRoom member. Allen Says has a post in there where he tells of making money from sites that still have the

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Originally Posted by sahail

Hi,

suppose what I was originally getting at was the 'turnkey' concept, or 'plug and play'.

I am a freelance writer, and cannot stand the fact that people call their content 'professionally written' when it clearly is not.

Even if English is not your first language, you are still in business, and should present with the very best. And 'the best' have been on this very forum.

I am in business, and find it insulting to see a 'turnkey' offering that is nothing more than a shell of a blog set-up that has horrendous grammar.

I would only buy the best anyway, and don't see the point of buying inferior stuff I have to rewrite.

Guess that is my point. Sorry for annoying anyone. Very proud to be here, and think we should all be looking for excellence. I have seen some shocking so-called 'turnkey' products. That is all I am ranting about

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JustVisiting

14 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

In the WSO sections you are probably not spending enough money to buy "the very best". The sites are bargains and you normally get them for dirt cheap so if you want better content, write it or outsource it.

Totally agree. Folk are not prepared to pay for the 'very best'. Besides, I may buy a web site for just the graphics or certain pieces of content.

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David Wolfman

14 years ago

I have purchased crap content before from a millionaire guru who i adored and learned a lot from, most of this was useless cr@p.

So far all of his stuff was quality, but this time I felt personally insulted, I watch and learn but don't buy from him anymore.

He's lost a faithful follower, and it's a warning for myself as well on how to respect the customer.

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Scott Ames

14 years ago

All I can say is Caveat emptor .

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sahail 14 years ago

Thanks guys, and especially Big Mike

I am just speaking as an intelligent but new IM.

I really do not think you should spend money on nothing more than a thrown together template. While we may not, due to common sense, I don't see why these should be seen as legit business offers. If I spent 30 mins with Photoshop and Wordpress, and then found five so-so articles and sold it for $29.95, is that right?

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- Kay King 14 years ago
  
  I don't see why these should be seen as legit business offers
  
  We are free to choose to buy or not. Some may be looking for good content writing while others are looking for design or flexibility of the site instead.
  
  It's understandable to see some sites as not meeting your standards - but that doesn't mean it's worthwhile to pass judgment on what sellers should be allowed to do or what is or is not "legit". If you don't like a site, pass it up.
  
  I've seen some poor writing (we have warriors from around the world here and English isn't always easy for them) on some very well built sites.
  
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Steve Powers

14 years ago

Things are always not with the same quality.Some are good while others may be bad.I
think you needn't worry that much on this.You just pay attention to some good ones.
If you are willing to do so and have enough time,you can also give some suggestions to
those bad ones.They may be grateful to you.

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CDarklock

14 years ago

Originally Posted by sahail

Why would I purchase a site that contains poor content?

Because it's more than just the content. It's a bunch of other stuff, too.

Whatever you can't use, put into your purchase decision. You want better content? Add the price of content. You want a better design? Add the price of design. You want Joomla instead of WordPress? Add the price of a Joomla install. If there's nothing there you can use, you're effectively buying the domain name.

If it's not worth it, don't buy.

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Amir.S

14 years ago

you get what you pay for. Maybe you need to spend a little more. Although you are right, this is the WF and we should have quaily and not quantity.

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sahail 14 years ago

Nice to see some back-up!

I suppose it is just about professionalism. I know these sites can be changed, but some of them won't, because some IMs will just see it as a way to get some 'real estate' and just throw up their 'site' that they purchased and then go after the traffic.

I suppose I am a little worried that this kind of thing will bring on the 'eZine effect' where third parties who (for better or for worse) are responsible for quality traffic, will get sick of poor quality 'bargain basement' sites.

This throwing up of cheap sites does happen. Let us not pretend it doesn't. It happens because some IMs just want traffic so they can reel off a sales pitch in the hope that it sticks. No trust is built, no product that lasts.

While cheap rubbish proliferates, more and more IMs will be tempted to set these sites up 'as is' without adapting them for quality.

And that is what will kill the Internet business model. A bunch of low-rent stores with some quality inbetween...
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