Clickbank is at it again!

You find it strange that someone with minimal sales volume would notice a fluctuation of decreasing sales before a super affiliate with large sales volume?

Exactly my point!!!

All this complaining and whining are from affiliates that make a low volume of sales, NOT ENOUGH OF A SAMPLE SIZE to make accusations that CB is shaving sales!!

All it takes is one affiliate to start moaning and then you get all these other losers that come in and jump on the bandwagon.

As Terryd said- WHERE IS THE PROOF!!

WHERE IS A VIDEO SHOWING THAT CB IS SHAVING SALE!!

SHOW ME!!

I've been with CB for 2 years now and they have never let me down, I have had money from in my bank consistently for 2 years.

If there is a problem then why don't we said Mike Filesame or Ewen Chia posting these threads??

I read the first few replies to this thread - before it became giant - and read the last page or so.

This reminds me of the telephone game in which a once simple problem turns into a whole conspiracy theory in which Clickbank is stealing all your sales. (Even though you got 30 whole hops today?!)

In the CPA world networks float 6 and 7 figures every day. Affiliates run the risk of not being paid, advertisers run away, and advertisers even sue affiliates and the opposite is also true.

So how come all people in CPA, doing any real volume, aren't up in arms?

Simply because they take matters into their own hands and take it upon themselves to change id's, track, change networks, change offers and constantly test.

Who's forcing you to use Clickbank?

Is Clickbank pissing you off?

• Then move to PayDotCom
• Then start doing CPA
• Then hit up someone with a RAP script

As with ANYTHING bigger members get treated better.

Some guys are running re-bills on Adwords even though their "supposed" to be banned - hell some are even running flogs.

This is because their budgets are big enough and Google turns the other check at the million a week + spending budget.

Where as people with lower spending budgets, that are just spamming to make a buck, get turned away.

I'm sure Clickbank gets thousands of e-mails a day saying, "Where are my monies? I get 10 hops to acne cream offer today from traffic xchange??"

What are they supposed to say, "Get decent traffic then come talk to us."?

Because I guarantee that's what their thinking...

With a site as huge as Clickbank they run on different servers, I believe that's the right termionology.

As I understand it those who push a sale every now and then are on the lower, piece of ****, busy, server.

Those who do a few sales maybe are on a different, less busy server, that only drops a few sales here and there. (Because it can handle the volume better?)

And those pushing 10+ sales a day are on a different server that's more sercure and closely watched.

And finally those "super affiliates" running 100+ sales a day and who DEMAND attention never miss a sale.


It's the 80/20 rule, or more likely the 90/10 rule. 10% of Clickbank affiliates make up 90% of the sales - these are the super affilaites.

And chances are the other 10% of sales are all from dude's spamming Yahoo! Answers saying, "Dude, your dog sounds like a bad ass. Fix it up with this great dog e-book."

(Not putting down the method - that's how I started. ;-)

The thing is it's pointless in Clickbank's opinion i'm sure to bother trying to help so many people who simply don't make them enough money and don't have any valid points.

Sure everyone driving a few sales a week may leave - but one or two super affiliates could make up the difference and I guarentee refunds, percentage wise, would drop like a stone.


Of course there's no real solution, at least that i'm aware of.

Just DEMAND attention and DEMAND an answer to what your trying to solve. (But please think reasonably and offer proof - some guys, by the sounds of it, are having messed up tracking **** going on here.)

Everyone starts out making a few sales a week and works their way up - so maybe the solution is to suck up the terrible tracking knowing that the upper affiliates don't have that problem. (And DEMAND to be answered.)

...or switch to doing something else - like I listed above.

Hope this helps,

Zach

P.S - Remember how much money your making Clickbank. If your pushing a few sales a week you may only be making them 10 bucks a week - it simply doesn't matter to them.

P.P.S - Take what i've said with a grain of salt. I'm not a lawyer, nor a super computer nerd worker. I don't know if the server, still not sure if that's the right terminology, is in fact a problem or if what i've said is even the true case.(I have never talked to Clickbank.)
But I believe George, on here, said that and a few other people i've talked to recently brang it up briefly.

If I were stealing and I had the choice of stealing from someone sophisticated enough to make big money or stealing from a whole bunch of people making little money, I'd definitely go with the latter.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: If Clickbank doesn't straighten out whatever shenanigans are causing this -- or at least make an effort to address the obvious problem -- they will find themselves the target of a very big class action lawsuit at some point.

Personally, I know for a validated fact that I have not been credited for sales, and I have records and communications from my site's very loyal visitors to prove it. If there are just ten other people like me -- keeping track -- Clickbank will find itself in a world of hurt.

Even if there is nothing shady going on on their end, their refusal to address the problem is negligent.