Your WP Sites For Offline Clients?

Here are 2 of the ones I have done:

Polar Ice Italian Ices
and
Boise Phone Guy, Boise Telephone and Internet Services

Sadly I havent created any for offline clients or I would have shown you them

1) A restaurant on Goldcoast Australia (note; site content still a works in progress) Reflections@one6ixty Restaurant
2) A commercial services business in Brisbane Australia (site submission final format and content to be decided) AUST-WIDE CLEANING & TROLLEY SYSTEMS
3) A dog massage therapy site http://pawssage.com

Hope this gives an indication for you Thunderbird. There is clearly a big market for offline websites and SEO. My brother in Australia is involved heavily in this and gives me a lot of work. I'd chase it up myself but being located in Thailand means that's not possible,.. and besides,- I kind of like not having to put a shirt and tie (plus trousers) on everyday just to go to work ;-)

cool stuff!
Though...
That Paw massage logo looks a bit... funny.

Arizona Personal Injury Lawyer

Interesting stuff! Anyone care to divulge what they got paid for any of those great sites? THAT would be motivating!

Thanks for sharing. Great to see what y'all have done. Much appreciated.

(Anyone willing to share what you were paid?)

Here are a few we have done mainly blogs to drive traffic

Personalized Ceramic Baby Gift Plates
Castlehill Truck and Car Mechanical Repair
Ross Replacement and Performance Parts

just to name t a few

Quentin

hre's one
— Flags R Fun

My latest: Painter And Decorators Barrow And The Lake District | Mark Cooper Painters And Decorators

Nice sites rosetrees, I'm going to pick up your wso and have a look at Atahualpa.

Tony

Here is another one we are working on by turning wordpress into a shopping cart.

Promotional Mugs and Glassware Straight from the Printer

I am doing this one as a JV with the printer.

Quentin

I actually have a couple requests from small businesses to create a website for them. So thank you for this thread!

How much do you all charge them for the monthly hosting? Any examples of contracts you're willing to share? I'm an amateur, so I'll work cheap for clients, but would like to start off doing it right.

Again, thank you!

Flagstaff Chiropractors

Here's a site I recently created for a retail business.
MrKumpirVancouver.com

The client is very happy (it's always a little unpredictable how someone will react to something as subjective as design and layout). That said, I'll still need to tweak style.css here and there. For example, the header may not always show up the same on all computers/browsers -- the logo gets pushed down on a friend's computer.

There are some really nice looking sites on this thread!

Based on the trend of what some of you are charging, have you considered offering these sites for free to business owners that don't have a site? As Tim mentioned, make sure you include an opt-in box, and then charge a monthly hosting and list maintenance fee.

If you're only going to charge $200-$500 on average anyway, you'd make a lot more money doing it this way. You can also outsource the website design for $75-$100 instead of spending hours doing it (unless you just enjoy doing it). I can build a nice Wordpress site, but it will take me 5-10 hours to get it exactly how I want it, and my time is worth far more than $10-$20 per hour.

So here's what the numbers look like...

Offer a free custom website to a business owner valued at $1,000-$1,500 which will cost you about $100 or so to outsource.

Charge them a $100-$500+/month for hosting/list maintenance/marketing which can include a number of things that will actually help the business owner make money with the site:

-Auto-responder copy
-Article submission
-Video submission
-Backlink building and other SEO services
-Optimization or creation of a Google, Yahoo, or Bing local listing
-etc...

There are tons of things you can to that are easy/cheap to outsource that will build the value to a point where your client will gladly hand you the monthly fee.

Even at $100 per month... you're now making $1,200 (less your outsourcing costs if you choose to go that route) per year versus $200-$500 upfront, one-time per site.

This would be a very attractive opportunity for most business owners...

And here's a tip on how to find clients for this method...

When a new business is registered, this is public data. Most of the time, you can go to your state or your county's website and look this information up (not sure how it works outside the US, but I'm sure it's about the same situation).

If the information is not online, you may have to make a call or go in person to get a list from the county, but the information is available.

Call the business owners up and offer them a free website. They will be getting calls from other web designers and credit card processors since they are a recently registered business, but most (if not all) are going to be charging them for web design.

There are all sorts of variations to this idea... just thought this might add something of value to the thread a give a different spin on doing basic web designs.

Do not under-price your services. If you are willing to work with a small business, instead of charging $500 for a site, charge them $3,000. Bill $500 a month for 6 months.

Justify by including SEO. Outsource 1,000 back links with 2-3 of James' (Rich Jerk) WSOs. Do the keyword research, open them a Google account and add paralytics and add a few articles in addition to the content THEY provide.

Teach the owner how to make a blog post and tell him/her to make one at the least every 2 weeks. (do it for him if you have to for a few months using his content and your keywords, after which you can start charging for that if they never grasp how to do a post. There are those that just cannot get that no matter how smart they are.)

Do a month or two of Adwords at $250 or $500 in costs so that when they see the boost in sales they continue and start paying for the Adwords AND your managing of them. (basically continuing the $500. You spend $350 or so in Google and keep $150 for the 2-4 hours a month you spend testing ads and landing pages.) As they grow, they increase the Adwords spend and you increase the fee.

Remember they are probably local so keyword research has to take that into account. In Google make them a local biz, open a Google biz listing (as well as Yahoo & Bing). Use the local meta tag, that ranks them higher in local searches and excludes them everywhere else. Hardly anyone uses it, so it is very useful right now and make their account local in the webmaster tools of Google.

In 6 months you are likely to have a constant 2-500 dollars in net income from that one account if you are any good at adwords.

Off-line biz is easy to get because there are so many idiots & crooks in the biz. Value is easy to show. Don't make them sign long term contracts. (In some cases I do the work before being paid! Worst case is loss of a few hours work. And then they really trust you.) Let them know you are under charging them. After all, most adword companies (if they know what they are doing) charge $3000 just to get to know the company and $3,000 to set the campaigns up! $6,000 before they place the 1st ad! You are giving them a great deal!)

When doing adwords always never stop testing ads and landing pages. Do that and an idiot can beat most of the competition in ANY niche! (98% don't test. Lol.) If I were you and you never used adwords before, just buy Perry Marshall's ultimate guide to adwords on his site for $197. That has all the info you need and more. Ignore the high priced classes. Opt into Perry's list and Glenn Livingston's list. they email enough free info to keep you busy. Lol.

At 3-500 for a site, you are doing them no favors and yourself even less of a favor.

If they don't want to pay for a 'list', make one anyway. Use your AR to feed it. 6 months later ask if they would like a 'rush' of business make a % of increased sales deal and email the list with 10% off or something. They will see the value in the list then!

If you pick a few tiny mom & pop companies to work with, (12-15), in a year, you will be working 10 hours a week and making 10-12K a month. PLUS you will be making the companies successful and they will love you.

What a great thread! Here are two sites that I've done.

Coy's Woodworking

Palmetto Children's Academy

I'd love to see what you guys think of my sites.

Thanks,

Leron

I'm developing this one for a client... Should be done in about a week. Fully custom theme. Yes, there are several things that are going to still be changed on it... relative width, email capture, static front page, etc.
But coming together nicely.
www.peakpositionmarketing.com

Fonts are English 'Black Letter'

a little ornate, but readable in that size as long as clients resolution isn't over 1280 x 1024 or 1440 x 910 (IMO)

Looks like a Type Oasis font? The Fontographer is Dieter Steffmann? (hard to tell, lots of guys use that style, but he is the king)

These are some nice looking sites!!!

Congrats to the makers.

Wish there was a list of xsitepro sites.

Jermaine, I just started a thread for xsitepro sites (I don't have any myself). So far there is one response with examples:
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...e-clients.html

Plumber60647

About 6 different versions of that demo.

And...
http://christmas.jackson-miss.com (just started it)
Jackson Mississippi Community Headline News (traffic node with a crap load of traffic daily)

Then the ugly: Local Chicago Plumber (they insisted on it that way)

Tickets Chicago (i'm wasn't in charge of graphics)
Dump Truck Secrets (he's changed it up a bit now)

Going Green

There's a butt load of them...just can't remember all of them right off hand.

You're very welcome.

(What about threads for Drupal, Joomla!, and other CMS? )

Here is one I did for my daughter's dance studio

Inspirations Dance Studio - Dance Instruction Grand Rapids, Dance Studio Ada MI, Dance Classes Ada

It was done on a "barter" basis. Don't discount the barter game, it can be a big money saver for things you spend money on anyway.

Oh, and here is one I did for a realtor friend.

http://www.firsthomegr.com

Nice work. What plugin/script did you use for the dance studio registration form?

I haven't done much bartering, but am exploring it. That's what "trade" originally meant, before money always factored in.

When I want to differentiate what's on each sidebar, I use the Widget Logic plugin.