How Warrior Forum is Changing in 2019

by WF Will Administrator
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Hey Warriors!

Starting in March, there is going to be some major changes with Warrior Forum and we wanted you to be the first to know.

Here's what you can expect:
  • Revamp of Warrior Learn - we're going to be bringing in high-level marketing contributors specialized in different niches so you can keep up with all the latest marketing trends (Instagram, Messenger Marketing, Media Buying, Etc)
  • Opportunity for growth - implementation of initiatives that offer spotlights on select engaging community warriors that create quality content.
  • We have completely restructured our vetting process so that we can bring you the best deals on the hottest marketing software and training.
We'd also love to hear your thoughts as well!

What do you like & dislike about Warrior Forum? And what changes would you like to see going forward?
#2019 #changing #forum #warrior
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  • Profile picture of the author naviown
    These new updates sounds very optimistic and I am looking forward to using them.
    As I am from crypto world and have business in crypto niche, I would like to see crypto section here in WF, as I genuinely thinking that there are many people who are interested in cryptos, blockchain technology, investing, STO's and so on and such section would be great.
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  • Profile picture of the author zainsultan
    That's great. Waiting for these good changes.
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  • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
    Get a paid staff member to monitor the Warrior Help section and answer the posts about issues with any WSO section WSO's on a daily basis.
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    • Profile picture of the author WF Will
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      That's definitely something we're focusing on, we're currently in the process of expanding our staff moderation team.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I'm excited about some of the changes on the horizon. going to be lively around here before long.


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  • Profile picture of the author NetMan
    Hey William,

    I'm glad to see what I see. Especially that there seems to be a constant good will to keep making this place better, despite the ups and downs of the few last years. It would be really too bad and sad to let go such an online marketing resource as the Warrior Forum.

    There's been many frustrations for many of the old folks but I still believe that's only for the better yet to come. It's just normal "stratups" hops and bounds issues. Yeah, WF is not a startups per se, but still kind of like one for you guys anyway.

    Revamping the Learn place is a surefire extremely good idea in my humble opinion. Observers all know everything is gearing towards Learning Online. There's certainly a gold mine or a pool of precious knowledge to discover among the warrior folks here. Anyway, that sounds very good and I might think of maybe try to contribute myself in some way, if all goes well with the new plan of course ...

    As a first major suggestion I would make, if I may, based on my observation of how people communicate on this forum since the event of Facebook groups, I believe to make this place a nice and profitable place to stay, the Learn section should start with a "Forum Communication and Ethics" complete course. lol
    Am I the only one who've noticed that people are NOT really discussing ANYMORE the majority of the time on this forum? It seems to me that people have become "facebook-like-group-users" and just come, read the headline and just post and pitch their "saying" right away without even bothering reading the thread and / or even taking into consideration what's been said often just above, and leave. Duh...

    Hence, we see now long boring threads full of short answers dropped by dropping-by posters, all posting the same boring answers bringing absolutely NO MORE value to the long boring unending thread.

    Is it because of the new forum format and how the threads are presented and seen, or is it because of the "selfish-meetoo-non-communication" habits acquired in facebook groups from the flood of a completely new generation of online users in the last 5-7 years? Who can say it right now, but for sure, again imho, it does not serve any one. No wonder growth of the forum is struggling, if the majority of users pulls not much value from visiting or participating in any way.

    I believe that could make a lot of difference, everything starts with education, and then maybe Warriors could eventually spread their communication skills and ethics to the rest of the world, because all the world NEED this course in my very humble opinion...

    Best regards,
    Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author Peachy Essay
    As a newbie here, it's great to know.
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  • Profile picture of the author IGotMine
    This is all well and good but this forum's problem is not lack of education, it's lack of traffic.

    March 14, 2019 3:00 PM - Currently Active Users: 5857 (252 members and 5605 guests)

    From my observations, the majority of the experienced marketers were driven away by forum staff and total disregard for their issues. Asking people to participate because you really want their input, then totally ignoring them and proceeding with the destruction of something they felt was valuable is not the way to "grow" a dying forum.

    All the "important" changes that have been implemented since FL took over have been epic fails. I don't see anything else in store for the future unless you know how to get 100,000 targeted visitors per day. Prior to the FL takeover, there were times when there were 200,000+ online at a time. A lot of people will blame it on social media and other online changes but the reality is, WF destroyed itself.

    How are you going to bring a dead forum back to life? By doing things that have already proven ineffective? First, it was WAMA, then the WR was the ultimate marketing resource, then it was "the vault", then it was just promoting affiliate products ad nauseam. All epic fails.

    I wish you good luck but have heard it all before.
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    • Profile picture of the author NetMan
      Originally Posted by IGotMine View Post

      March 14, 2019 3:00 PM - Currently Active Users: 5857 (252 members and 5605 guests)

      ...

      Prior to the FL takeover, there were times when there were 200,000+ online at a time.
      I've seen it topping up to 400k and some dust, and almost 60k on the WSO forum alone.

      A WSO was staying on the first page for an average of no more than around 3-4 hours at some point. That was impressive!

      I still believe creating the nice place to stay it use to be, and that goes through education, would make it a stable and steady growth.

      That doesn't go without saying that a fair increase in traffic will absolutely be necessary, indeed. There I absolutely agree with you. And the rest of your saying as well, only I believe right now we should go beyond the frustration of the last years and try to keep seeing things as positive. But yeah, believe me I can very clearly relate to your frustration as well, about how it happens with the FL takeover of this forum... Rest to examine how the surge in traffic could be achieved.

      Regards,
      Andy
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by IGotMine View Post

      How are you going to bring a dead forum back to life?
      Simple. Track down and bring back Big Frank. It was all downhill once he was gone. :-)

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  • The latest marketing trends is important to us and the posts should be updated more frequently and not 1 YEAR AGO. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author rhinocl
    I would return the forum to a format where the forum is primary rather than where feeds are primary. There was a time when everyone thought RSS readers would take over but they were wrong.If you look at the traffic before and after the purchase, practically every change since then has been wrong. I would try to reach out to the people who ran it so successfully for many years and get one of them back on your team.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I see things going the same way as those before you.

    I can understand why you would expect that - but William has just started and he is better qualified to run this forum than anyone I've seen for a long time.



    By all means, say what you don't like - but give it a chance. What does it hurt to have some optimism? If the forum can be improved, we all win.
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  • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
    Originally Posted by William Jiang View Post

    Hey Warriors!

    Starting in March, there is going to be some major changes with Warrior Forum and we wanted you to be the first to know.

    Here's what you can expect:
    • Revamp of Warrior Learn - we're going to be bringing in high-level marketing contributors specialized in different niches so you can keep up with all the latest marketing trends (Instagram, Messenger Marketing, Media Buying, Etc)
    • Opportunity for growth - implementation of initiatives that offer spotlights on select engaging community warriors that create quality content.
    • We have completely restructured our vetting process so that we can bring you the best deals on the hottest marketing software and training.
    We'd also love to hear your thoughts as well!

    What do you like & dislike about Warrior Forum? And what changes would you like to see going forward?
    Before commenting about changes...

    What were YOU told by your superior, or the Freelancer committee in charge...

    WHAT IS THE MISSION STATEMENT OF THE WARRIOR FORUM?

    Why is this important to know? Maybe some of our likes and dislikes are in opposition to the mission, so that would help if you are able to share.

    There is an inherent assumption, it needs to be profitable for the FL group, and when they bought it, they got big numbers of members.

    It has been pointed out, numbers and traffic are way down.

    So what is expected of the WF?

    GordonJ

    PS. For marketers to come here and set up their version of a kiosk or booth, they have to know the people visiting the marketplace are looking to buy those kinds of goods and services.

    For a couple of years now, instead of an oasis in the desert, the WF has been a place to buy sand.

    Good luck to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    These days the old saying "Less is more" has never been truer in my experience. Note, that statement does not say "in my opinion" rather "in my experience."

    Why is "Less is more?" In the wild wild west days of the internet people were curious about this new thing called the internet, especially curious internet marketers for obvious reasons, the curious gravitated to this forum. Long content that addressed the curious nature and long discussions led to things like long sales copy, the rise of ClickBank which led to discussions about ClickBank Marketing, eBay Marketing, websites and website Marketing (think Template Monster), WordPress and eventually Flippa. We can go on and on, payment processing, email marketing, etc. In those days "More was king."

    Nowadays, 20 odd years later, the wild wild west days are long gone.

    Nowadays, the would-be marketers is a different generation with different wants and needs and more importantly their own ideas of entitlement.

    That means forums have had to change with the times.

    These days "Less Is More" to the new generation. They simply see a forum with what appears to be an endless list of topics. It confuses and frustrates them. They click away and seldom return. That is a major reason why forum participation is down.

    One way to improve forum participation?

    Dumb down the forum! Meaning "Less "topics" is more appealing to the new generation of would-be Internet Marketers." Ask yourself this.. if you go to a new college and see a list of topics like here in the forum would it confuse you? Last year, as a guest speaker at a community college I spoke about "Where to start" and showed the students an overhead of this forum. None had ever visited or even heard of this forum. Nobody knew where to start on this forum! Then I had them bring up the forum on their apples, etc. A whole new level of frustration!

    From my experience..

    Dumb it down!
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    Cant wait!
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  • Yes, the new update is great.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Albany
    These are great! looking forward to it.
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  • Originally Posted by WF Will View Post

    What do you like & dislike about Warrior Forum? And what changes would you like to see going forward?
    I dont dislike anything about the forum, but i would like to see more mods commenting on threads, so that newbies can learn from the highly perceived intelligence of the upper level members on this forum. This way it won't seem like people are just posting to make noise, and the folks making "noise" aren't even making money themselves.
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  • Profile picture of the author superowid
    Traffic. Real traffic. Targeted traffic. What's the point of GREAT IM forum, if it CAN NOT bring great traffic to the forum itself? Were those traffic threads useless? Then... no wonder!
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  • I think part of the problem is greed.

    Allen, the previous owner, did so well partly because he wasn't greedy. He left a lot of money on the table because he was more concerned about the people on the forum. He wanted them to do well. He took great pride in helping people launch their businesses.

    These days, it looks more and more like a money grab without a care for the community.

    An example: I was thinking of putting an offer up (it's been years) around Black Friday. I looked through the WSO offerings to get a feel as to what was allowed and what was selling.

    The first page of the WSO section had 4 to 6 different offers from the Warriorforum. The Warriorforum took up most of the front page from paying customers. You need to decide whether you want to be a marketplace or you want to sell your own products. Why would I want to pay a fee only to be knocked down the page by the same people I just paid money too? At least stay out of the WSO section if you want to do both.

    It makes no sense.

    I also wouldn't be banning people for 6 months at a time. I used to be a daily contributor and was banned (for speaking up about the WSO section and how bad this forum is treating it's community) for 6 months. Now I don't post hardly at all.

    I guess you can either get triggered from criticism or you can take it as a way to improve. Getting upset and banning people will only hurt your bottom line. The previous manager got triggered at any and all criticism. I am surprised he was kept as manager for as long as he was.

    Once you figure out how you want to make money with this forum, then you need to get traffic. That means paying for it because you lost so many people who drove the traffic to this place. Set up some learning events and advertise on Facebook groups.

    Without the traffic there is no reason to pay you to advertise here.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

      Allen, the previous owner, did so well partly because he wasn't greedy. He left a lot of money on the table because he was more concerned about the people on the forum. He wanted them to do well. He took great pride in helping people launch their businesses.
      It wasn't just a lack of greed. Allen was smart enough to know that if members made money, so did the forum.

      Good to see you back, Thomas. Don't be a stranger.
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      • Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

        It wasn't just a lack of greed. Allen was smart enough to know that if members made money, so did the forum.

        Good to see you back, Thomas. Don't be a stranger.
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        Absolutely. People like you have been preaching this type of mentality for decades. Yes, we are old.

        I remember when Freelancer just purchased and they made a remark about how we were like a cult following. It wasn't a cult as much as loyalty to a place that helped many, many people. They soon found out it wasn't blind loyalty. Allen and the mods earned our loyalty.

        I would like to see this place do better. I may sound overly critical at times. I only post these critics because I have a fond place for this community in my heart. I learned a lot and hopefully was able to pass on some of what I learned to others. That is what this place was all about first and foremost.

        I hope Will concentrates on getting it back to that mission. The money will be there if he is able to pull it off.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Yes, we are old

    Did you have to go there? Good to see you Thomas - good insight as usual.


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    • Profile picture of the author Thomas Belknap
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Did you have to go there? Good to see you Thomas - good insight as usual.


      kay

      I was just on another forum talking about CBD and arthritis. I mentioned my dog (who just turned 9) and I will both be taking it soon enough.

      Oy, the times are a changing! haha
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    It starts of by not consulting with the forum, but telling us what they want to do
    I agree with many of your points but not the point you make above. This is a privately owned forum - it's not a democracy where members decide what is allowed to happen. That's to be expected when you pay $3 million for a site.

    I know there are good plans in the works now - and I wouldn't say that if I didn't KNOW it. Whether they will come fast enough or go far enough remains to be seen.

    For the first time in a long time we have admins listening to volunteer mods (and we are members first)...and making plans for improvements. I agree with laying out what the problems are.

    this is not a negative post
    Of course it is - and Ok to say what you think. Not ok to keep pounding that nail in post after post. Give it a chance - or don't. Your choice.
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    I look forward to the changes. I'd love to post more in-depth "HOW TO" posts in this forum.
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