CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT I AM DOING WRONG???

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Hello everyone I am not new to online marketing I been trying to "make money" for the past few years with Clickbank to no avail.

I lucked up recently and I bought a gig on fiverr the guy sent me some $500 training that taught me the basics of affiliate marketing.

1.I chose a product off Clickbank
2.Signed up for Aweber and loaded my follow up with Email swipes from vendor
3.Signed up for lead pages
4.Created my first capture page giving away free pdf which was sent in followup, presell page (thank you page with video) and linked to offer. and successfully integrated it with Aweber everything was connected and working fine.
5. I made two pages to split test with click magick link rotators
6.Created a Bings ads account
7.Hired a professional to do keyword research and set up first campaign
8.set budget for $5 to $10 a day for a week

my results sucked! I got 11 opt ins no one confirmed the email one person unsubscribed

no sales

I had a good product The Two Week Diet from Clickbank gravity 73
I had good targeted keywords
Everything was set up correctly
Nothing was misleading

So why am I not seeing sales or even opt ins no one confirmed and with Aweber they wont let me disable the double opt in confirmation cause my account is still new I emailed the help desk.

Other things work mentioning:
I linked to the landing page or clickmagick rotator link

I got banned from Google ads the first day I made my account. I applied a coupon and they said suspicious activity in payment and banned me I emailed countless times they still wont let me advertise. My chase debit card was mines and everything was legal and legit I put on there

I got banned several times with facebook ads on my first day for direct linking to the offer ooops even when I made new profiles they always close them down and say Secure your account upload a picture to confirm identity.

Did that countless times and facebook never reinstated my profile.

What am I supposed to do now for traffic???????
What did I do wrong with facebook and google???
And despite me paying all this money for these sites (Aweber,Leadpages, Clickfunnels and Hiring a professional campaign person) why havent I got sales or opt ins?

Someone PLEASSEEE HELP ME! I'm taking action and keep losing money by the day
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by BornLeader View Post

    Hello everyone I am not new to online marketing I been trying to "make money" for the past few years with Clickbank to no avail.

    I lucked up recently and I bought a gig on fiverr the guy sent me some $500 training that taught me the basics of affiliate marketing.

    1.I chose a product off Clickbank
    2.Signed up for Aweber and loaded my follow up with Email swipes from vendor
    3.Signed up for lead pages
    4.Created my first capture page giving away free pdf which was sent in followup, presell page (thank you page with video) and linked to offer. and successfully integrated it with Aweber everything was connected and working fine.
    5. I made two pages to split test with click magick link rotators
    6.Created a Bings ads account
    7.Hired a professional to do keyword research and set up first campaign
    8.set budget for $5 to $10 a day for a week

    my results sucked! I got 11 opt ins no one confirmed the email one person unsubscribed

    no sales

    I had a good product The Two Week Diet from Clickbank gravity 73
    I had good targeted keywords
    Everything was set up correctly
    Nothing was misleading

    So why am I not seeing sales or even opt ins no one confirmed and with Aweber they wont let me disable the double opt in confirmation cause my account is still new I emailed the help desk.

    Other things work mentioning:
    I linked to the landing page or clickmagick rotator link

    I got banned from Google ads the first day I made my account. I applied a coupon and they said suspicious activity in payment and banned me I emailed countless times they still wont let me advertise. My chase debit card was mines and everything was legal and legit I put on there

    I got banned several times with facebook ads on my first day for direct linking to the offer ooops even when I made new profiles they always close them down and say Secure your account upload a picture to confirm identity.

    Did that countless times and facebook never reinstated my profile.

    What am I supposed to do now for traffic???????
    What did I do wrong with facebook and google???
    And despite me paying all this money for these sites (Aweber,Leadpages, Clickfunnels and Hiring a professional campaign person) why havent I got sales or opt ins?

    Someone PLEASSEEE HELP ME! I'm taking action and keep losing money by the day
    Yes, Bornleader, (well) been there, and almost done that. I have tried Bing traffic over the years and it Never converts, at least compared to Adwords, (which is so expensive now it is next to useless).

    I have heard Bing works with signup offers, but have not tried that, but overall s***t traffic.

    Adwords, lol, yes link to a squeeze page and your account is gone for good, last time l used them and a week later of getting through their war and piece TOS, had to put a squeeze page on the last page, down the bottom of a site, full of content, (which was a 100% waste of money).

    Link to a Clickbank product, most likely same thing, create your own and making it work is probably more viable.

    I when adwords wearn't so scummy l also tried direct squeeze page linking with mixed results, one l got a 70% signup rate, but the sales, pffft, typically one off sale in the sales funnel and no matter how many freebies you give them that is it, while your aweber account, (have one) becomes more expensive to operate.

    But other marketers out there do have better results than me, (lists) but l spent years doing that, and didn't get very far with it.

    I would say forget about adwords, once they close down your account that is it, at least in the pleading with them to open it again kind of way.

    You can make good pocket money with Fiverr, but unless you can make it like the top sellers do, not much potential there, (20 product limit, frown on PLR with resell rights, want labour for peanuts workforce).

    So what to do, l tried creating some software, WP software, which costed me $130 to make, and made me $1,300, ($25 top price) well a few hundred most of that was affiliate commission payouts.

    Then online casinos, (don't ask) and ended up with online trading, (probably getting a handle on that but not easy).

    Before that l also tried flyers for two hub sites, ended up with 300, which typically brings in almost $100 a month, (so if l could maintain 13 a week without burning out, (3 months tends to be my limit) then l could get it up to $1000 a month in ten years time, probably 20-30 to make any real income from it.


    Software creators may be able to fasttrack this, PSD, Actions, etc, but they also seem to throw a lot of traffic at it also.

    Unfortunately l cannot say, do this, but after all of the crap l went through with the paid traffic thing, staying with hub sites with their own traffic, (Fiverr, Graphicriver, Creativemarket, etc) is overall a good path to consider, since the traffic issue is gone, (their problem) and you can concentrate on product creation or service.

    Good luck.

    PS that is why l am doing online investing, no ceiling, no traffic issues, but no different to any other online business, or difficult to make profitable in the beginning.

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    • Profile picture of the author BornLeader
      I agree with all this I looked into forex trading before but i'll do some research today maybe affiliate marketing isn't the way to make a full time income anymore solely.

      I was considering starting a blog website, niche website, buying solo ads but solo ads are SUPER expensive sometimes $200 for 100-200 clicks that may or may not convert.

      I could look into producing software or a membership site. All of this means I'll just be further down the rabbit hole with money though.... Ugh and trying to find a mentor anywhere is like pulling teeth cause i've offered money but I dont think alot of people really know how to do this full time. The ones that do arent interested in my money. This is sad lol
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  • Profile picture of the author spartan14
    Dont give up maybe rethink all your strategy use other offer ,because maybe weight loss ni cbe its too saturated
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    • Profile picture of the author BornLeader
      Can you share any successful methods you tried. Other than Youtube which i'll be trying today
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  • Profile picture of the author superowid
    Your story/experience is my reason why I choose Youtube platform to sell. And I don't mind that I never have a list at all. I just do direct promotion, but now is getting more competitive. Luckily I still have my service business for another steady option, as well as my offline business. I can not help you with any suggestion other than keep working on it and make a tweak you think you have to do! Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author SiteNameSales
    At least you have money to invest. Most of those who fail do so because the don't have the funds to experiment and change direction when things aren't working out and many eventually give up in frustration. Money to invest in your business isn't the only way to be successful, but it certainly beats waiting for months for your website articles to be ranked by the search engines. Do you have a blog? Good for credibility.

    Frankly, even if you were making sales on Clickbank from this type of product your income would hardly make you self-supporting.

    My advice: Take some the money you are spending on various platforms and start investing in coaching with a reputable marketer who can give you the insights you will need to succeed in the long run. Sure, you can hang out here or on YouTube and learn a lot, but it's not the same as working with a pro who has your back on a regular basis.

    Lastly, affiliate marketing continues to become more competitive. Any high school kid with an Iphone can become your competitor. I'd concentrate on promoting high ticket items. You can find some on Clickbank if that's where you like to hang out. Start using Twitter, Tumblr, Reddit, Pinterest and Instagram. There are many, many platforms with potential buyers and not all of them charge a lot of money, if at all. Combine free and paid advertising and be patient.
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    • Profile picture of the author BornLeader
      Thank you this needed to be said I love your answer! I just replied to someone above and said the same thing about the mentor though i'll repost for you:


      "I was considering starting a blog website, niche website, buying solo ads but solo ads are SUPER expensive sometimes $200 for 100-200 clicks that may or may not convert.

      I could look into producing software or a membership site. All of this means I'll just be further down the rabbit hole with money though.... Ugh and trying to find a mentor anywhere is like pulling teeth cause i've offered money but I dont think alot of people really know how to do this full time. The ones that do arent interested in my money. This is sad lol"
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  • Profile picture of the author Bkelly301
    I'm no expert by any means, but I do run an online business that makes me a couple thousand per month consistently. My main focus has always been to CREATE VALUE. People want to buy my course, because they benefit so much from my free content.

    You are making your primary goal to make money without offering any value in return.

    That doesn't usually work very well for people.

    Try thinking in terms of "I started a business today, what would I want to do that I could stick with for at least 5 years?"

    That should help you think about how you would be able to create value for people.
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  • Profile picture of the author IGotMine
    7.Hired a professional to do keyword research and set up first campaign
    Did this "professional" do a good job? You don't know because you don't know what a good job looks like. PPC is an art, a science and a really fun game all rolled into one. Beginners lose money with PPC. It sometimes takes thousands of dollars testing to get a campaign profitable and sometimes you never do.

    The belief that if you send enough traffic or a CB product has a certain gravity or the million and one other things newbies believe are not true. If you have no marketing experience then common sense says you shouldn't try marketing until you have studied enough to have at least a basic knowledge. Sadly, common sense is in very short supply when it comes to MMO.
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    • Profile picture of the author BornLeader
      I have studied for a long time and excuse you I have common sense! I have notebooks filled with notes don't denounce someone else cause you got it everyone had to start somewhere

      I took "action" as you gurus call it you don't care as long as money is in your pocket and bank account while the rest of us is "taking actions" with promises for days and ZERO results pass me with that.

      "Your name IGotMine" serves you correct you seem to not care about anyone. I know the basis of a PPC campaign I just wanted it done right to minimize my loses.

      If you're gonna make a comment make an intelligent one. Don't look down on others cause the fact is I've tried a lot of methods more than what I posted. Wasting $2000 or more dollars testing for little to no profits in the same breath i pay rent, am a college student and am completely broke but not making excuses as you guys like to say.

      Have a good day
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  • Profile picture of the author Oziboomer
    Understand it starts with attitude and perspective.

    What do Aweber, Lead pages, ClickFunnels and your research guy have that you don't?

    It might be they have something people want and are prepared to pay for.

    When I read your list of eight items I see

    1. Poor choice
    2. Poor choice
    3. Unnecessary choice for beginners
    4. Waste of time
    5. Waste of time and money - split testing crap still gives two piles of crap
    6. Bing joined the party of cash extraction
    7. Should have been you and should have probably come first - waste of money
    8. Now throw money away fast.

    Full on recipe for disaster.

    Maybe next time start with:

    1. Find hungry market
    2. Discover what hungry market really wants
    3. Test if they will buy solution offered

    Understanding what your market wants and meeting those needs is really the best course to pursue.

    Clickbank knows what you want.

    Aweber knows what you want.

    Leadpages, Bing and ClickMagik knows what you want.

    That's why they've got your money.

    Don't waste anymore money until you understand why it changes hands from one person to another.

    For those that don't know.

    Money changes hands when both parties believe they are getting better value from the exchange.

    Your goal in IM should be to ensure - absolutely guarantee - that what you are getting money for exceeds the value the person whom is giving you the money perceives what it is worth.

    You believed in Clickbank.

    You believed in Leadpages, Clickfunnels and very other thing you handed money over for.

    Understand why they made you feel that way.

    Understand how you can deliver value to someone so they pay you and are happy to do so.

    Learn those simple things and you can be successful.

    Best regards,

    Ozi
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    • Profile picture of the author BornLeader
      Thank you I appreciate this! It makes alot of sense and before I admit I wasn't viewing this from a "business owner" perspective. I viewed it as a affiliate marketer. When you watch youtube and see everyones income proofs and push button methods it makes you want to chase after the money especially when people are flaunting their newfound lifestyles and seemingly supposedly with high hopes have people like me believing if you just buy their system, or program, course or software that you will make even a portion of that.

      I'm not going to say its a scam but its very misleading especially after buying these items you can't ask for help from a coach. Alot of people including myself that are serious don't mind paying $500 to $2000 for a course or software i'd do it if I knew it would help me with my endeavors with a mentor or coach. The problem I have with that is when I buy these the owner or creator doesn't want to answer one on one questions instead webinars where not even a fraction of my questions are answered

      with a price tag like that. Instead they have facebook groups (which is like the blind leading the blind) or webinars which doesn't address everyone one by one. One answer will not work for everyone.

      like I said earlier. I was banned from Google Ads my first day, Facebook for direct linking my first day and now bing doesnt have quality traffic from what I hear.

      I need someone or a course that will actually help me fix these issues and put me on the path to success. Gurus sell courses but dont want to give you one on one training after they get paid its not right to me.

      So back on the internet I go to once again research how to make money online with a online business with too many choices and options to choose from. I want longevity with a business and guidance with my career.

      Warrior Forum has helped me a bit with that I am grateful!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    If you're gonna make a comment make an intelligent one.

    When you ask for advice - people will tell you what you are doing wrong. Those who say 'great job' - aren't helping. They don't know what to either.


    Experienced, successful marketers may not seem warm and fuzzy - but you'll learn more from critiques than you will from kudos.


    oziboomer nailed it - read that post several times....
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    • Profile picture of the author BornLeader
      I appreciate your words.
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      • Profile picture of the author lesbar
        I have several blogs that make me money but I always make a Facebook page and post my products on that linking them to my blogs. It does not cost anything and most of my traffic comes from these pages and I do get sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by BornLeader View Post

    I agree with all this I looked into forex trading before but i'll do some research today maybe affiliate marketing isn't the way to make a full time income anymore solely.

    I was considering starting a blog website, niche website, buying solo ads but solo ads are SUPER expensive sometimes $200 for 100-200 clicks that may or may not convert.

    I could look into producing software or a membership site. All of this means I'll just be further down the rabbit hole with money though.... Ugh and trying to find a mentor anywhere is like pulling teeth cause i've offered money but I dont think alot of people really know how to do this full time. The ones that do arent interested in my money. This is sad lol
    Ok, Bornleader, for starters using the quote button in classic view, would help us, or odd's on the above one is addressed to me, but hard to be sure?

    Some make a lot with a blog, and most don't, as in most things. Forex is restrictive and expensive, or two reasons l keep away from those.

    I have signed up with this kid, that is doing quite well with trading,..Ricky Gutierrez, so if you are interested in trading, then l would suggest watching his YT video's. He is in college and is growing his account through trading. He also uses Think or Swim, which l don't have access to being in AU, so he currently has an advantage over aussies.

    Yes software, l joined up with a group that was supposed to show me how to develop software and make a living off it, and also followed a guru, that promised a few things, that didn't happen and also was hard to talk to, unless you payed up more, catch-22.

    Some with PPC, with some good ideas, but no income stream at the end.


    Originally Posted by BornLeader View Post

    If you're gonna make a comment make an intelligent one. Don't look down on others cause the fact is I've tried a lot of methods more than what I posted. Wasting $2000 or more dollars testing for little to no profits in the same breath i pay rent, am a college student and am completely broke but not making excuses as you guys like to say.

    Have a good day
    Agreed, (with the $2000 remark) PPC is a bi***ch to find some kw's that keep converting, which is weird, since many people are selling the same Clickbank product you are? So why do we get two sales per 100 prospects and never get any more, when our competitor with similar kw's does likewise?

    Hard to say if adwords has fishy algorithms or not, but weird.

    Originally Posted by BornLeader View Post

    Thank you I appreciate this! It makes alot of sense and before I admit I wasn't viewing this from a "business owner" perspective. I viewed it as a affiliate marketer. When you watch youtube and see everyones income proofs and push button methods it makes you want to chase after the money especially when people are flaunting their newfound lifestyles and seemingly supposedly with high hopes have people like me believing if you just buy their system, or program, course or software that you will make even a portion of that.

    I'm not going to say its a scam but its very misleading especially after buying these items you can't ask for help from a coach. Alot of people including myself that are serious don't mind paying $500 to $2000 for a course or software i'd do it if I knew it would help me with my endeavors with a mentor or coach. The problem I have with that is when I buy these the owner or creator doesn't want to answer one on one questions instead webinars where not even a fraction of my questions are answered

    with a price tag like that. Instead they have facebook groups (which is like the blind leading the blind) or webinars which doesn't address everyone one by one. One answer will not work for everyone.

    like I said earlier. I was banned from Google Ads my first day, Facebook for direct linking my first day and now bing doesnt have quality traffic from what I hear.

    I need someone or a course that will actually help me fix these issues and put me on the path to success. Gurus sell courses but dont want to give you one on one training after they get paid its not right to me.

    So back on the internet I go to once again research how to make money online with a online business with too many choices and options to choose from. I want longevity with a business and guidance with my career.

    Warrior Forum has helped me a bit with that I am grateful!
    Yes, the mansion and car walkthroughs are easy, just get all of your friends to hire out a luxery mansion on the hill for $600e for a few days, then hire out a Porsche at $200 a day for one day, then crap on a lot.

    And yeah, FB, the Ricky free one, does have the blind leading issue, but also is a good place to get motivated, (l am with a separate aussie group).

    And also true, with spending thousands on a course of product that virtually guarantee's immediate wealth and ends up not promising anything except applications that are for people that are aleady partially successful, (have a list that converts).

    Most guru's had dumb luck behind them then tried to bottle that to others to make more. So they become wealthier and you get some good ideas, and don't.

    And as for trading, l am currently looking into this guy,...Timothy Sykes, which has grown his account over 100% a year, (that is verified) but his video's cost $2000 - $5000. So a friend who has already bought it is crucial, unless...

    I have researched this guy and he appears to be genuine, and have researched others, who charge 5k, and are ripoff merchants, so be careful.

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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    2 things jump out to me:

    1: trying to "make money" for the past few years with Clickbank.

    2: lucked out.


    Money responds well to your practice, to your skills, your creating helpful content and building genuine friendships with humans. Focusing your energy on trying to make money (inanimate object) through a platform (Clickbank, inanimate object) removes humans and service from the equation. Since money flows through humans, this is your struggle.

    Luck does not exist. No chance exists in the online game. Just generous service and detachment.
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  • Profile picture of the author 55sadhikar
    My 2 cents here, even though you said that your keywords very targeted I highly doubt that..

    Keywords driven traffic are best one out there because each keyword click means I was interested in what you have to say

    Got to the landing page, sensed the disconnect, so why would I optin?
    Let alone buy the product. Ideally for every 100 clicks 1-2 person is expected to buy. If you had 11 optins , only 11 people saw the offer. Also bad keyword with a optin is never going to lead a sale. If you got an option from keyword "weight loss", I may not be necessarily wanting to lose weight with dieting . So even though you got option that person isn't going to buy because they want to lose weight with exercise and diet. Main concern is keyword targeting related to the offer and hence you haven't got a sale. You have the system in place to have it worked but unfortunately wrong ad and keyword targeting isn't working for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author BornLeader
      You have the system in place to have it worked but unfortunately wrong ad and keyword targeting isn't working for you.
      So you suggest that I go back and change the keywords? I don't know which ones will to choose. I normally go for low traffic high searches and set my CPC to 0.40 or 0.35 cent to start but that didnt work. Is there a keyword software that will make it easier? currently I use Google keyword planner and Bing keyword planner.
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  • Profile picture of the author 55sadhikar
    You have to know who your audience for 3 week diet is. Are they male/female? What age? If people are older they don't want to exercise, a 25 yr old wants to lose weight to have a slim figure so they can attract mates. A 60 yr old wants to lose weight because they want to play with their grand kids. Once you have the audience dialed out , think about the words they are likely to type in google/bing to solve their problem. Having a keyword lose weight and getting them to click on ad isn't very targeted. A better keyword would be South beach diet which will very likely nail your targeted audience for 3 week diet. Also your audience would be someone who wants to lose weight with diet not running in the treadmill or sweating out. So, you can't target audience like Zumba or p90x
    Because they are intended for audience to lose weight "working out". They want toned abs and muscles , so they can look amazing while going to the malls, or out on the beach.
    So your offer is dictated by audience and the keywords follow the audience and hence the sale. Your keywords has to be diet related. Also keyword isn't just a word. Think it as something who has real need and is going to solve their problem. It's a real person who has a real need. May be they are sending that their marriage is falling because can't stop looking at woman who is slimmer and sexier. Enough already, know your audience and find keywords relevant to them.
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    • Profile picture of the author articuno
      Originally Posted by 55sadhikar View Post

      You have to know who your audience for 3 week diet is. Are they male/female? What age? If people are older they don't want to exercise, a 25 yr old wants to lose weight to have a slim figure so they can attract mates. A 60 yr old wants to lose weight because they want to play with their grand kids. Once you have the audience dialed out , think about the words they are likely to type in google/bing to solve their problem. Having a keyword lose weight and getting them to click on ad isn't very targeted. A better keyword would be South beach diet which will very likely nail your targeted audience for 3 week diet. Also your audience would be someone who wants to lose weight with diet not running in the treadmill or sweating out. So, you can't target audience like Zumba or p90x
      Because they are intended for audience to lose weight "working out". They want toned abs and muscles , so they can look amazing while going to the malls, or out on the beach.
      So your offer is dictated by audience and the keywords follow the audience and hence the sale. Your keywords has to be diet related. Also keyword isn't just a word. Think it as something who has real need and is going to solve their problem. It's a real person who has a real need. May be they are sending that their marriage is falling because can't stop looking at woman who is slimmer and sexier. Enough already, know your audience and find keywords relevant to them.



      He nailed it. I would definitely say that the keywords you are targeting may not be the right one for that niche of an offer. You really have to think about the demographics. What type of people would use this specific diet plan and narrow those down into groups.



      So, when you start you campaigns on social media, you know how to level those demographics and people and turn them into customers. Also, the layout of your website ( unless you're direct linking to the offer) - it plays a huge role into people wanting to stay on it.



      If you are direct linking, those usually come off as spammy links and people won't click on them. I'd suggest going back to the drawing board and start off simply first. Focusing on one thing at a time.


      1. Review your keywords and demographics: You do not have to be a professional to learn these things. Just put yourself in the customer shoes. Hm, I'm looking to lose weight, but only by what I'm eating. I really don't have time to "work out" everyday. Then think what type of setting can I make my product page fit into what they're looking for. Then, with social media, you can target those people and offer the product. An general sense of it.


      2. Use another paid traffic. You can use instagram influencers , youtube and etc. It'll be easier to target who because you did step 1.





      -- I'm not an master at it, but I understand people. Everyone make mistakes their first time around; now you know how you could fit your problem.



      You are spending too much money on specific keywords and none are converting. Why aren't they converting when they get to the link. Solution. The product page for that offer look bad, let me make my own, and just hotlink it into that page. I hope you figure it out soon and make a killing.
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph View Post

    2 things jump out to me:

    1: trying to "make money" for the past few years with Clickbank.

    2: lucked out.


    Money responds well to your practice, to your skills, your creating helpful content and building genuine friendships with humans. Focusing your energy on trying to make money (inanimate object) through a platform (Clickbank, inanimate object) removes humans and service from the equation. Since money flows through humans, this is your struggle.

    Luck does not exist. No chance exists in the online game. Just generous service and detachment.
    Hmmm, perhaps, Frank Kern used Spam just before it was made illegal, and built an 8k list, then went from there.

    So recognizing an opportunity, but certainly being in the right place, or luck.

    He tried to push how others could do likewise later on, but without the Spam aspect which was illegal shortly after his win, he could only push the sales funnel or building a relationship with that list, but the crucial part in creating the list without dropping a ton of cash was wishful thinking, or a vein of gold that had run out.

    Someone else l followed, (can't think of his name) created a PDF when he was a teacher and it took off, (l think that it had something to do with training for teachers) and yet again later on tried to push the success without the luck.

    Ken Done, (read his autobiography) created simple Koala designs on T-shirts and they took off every time he did so, he later expanded that to a shop full of such designs and built it up to a million dollar corporation.

    Thankfully he didn't push his right place, right time winning streak onto others, or as so many guru's do, push the genie and leave out the bottle.

    I would say overall follow the guru, and end up with a few techniques, a lot less money and end up high and dry.

    But l have to admit l am following one now, but only really because l can borrow the high priced product from some associates l know, and for that kind of cash there is a slim chance l might get some lightbulb moments.

    I personally doubt it, and it will most likely be wound up with cotton wool, but who knows.

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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by BornLeader View Post

    Hello everyone I am not new to online marketing I been trying to "make money" for the past few years with Clickbank to no avail.

    I lucked up recently and I bought a gig on fiverr the guy sent me some $500 training that taught me the basics of affiliate marketing.

    1.I chose a product off Clickbank
    2.Signed up for Aweber and loaded my follow up with Email swipes from vendor
    3.Signed up for lead pages
    4.Created my first capture page giving away free pdf which was sent in followup, presell page (thank you page with video) and linked to offer. and successfully integrated it with Aweber everything was connected and working fine.
    5. I made two pages to split test with click magick link rotators
    6.Created a Bings ads account
    7.Hired a professional to do keyword research and set up first campaign
    8.set budget for $5 to $10 a day for a week

    my results sucked! I got 11 opt ins no one confirmed the email one person unsubscribed

    no sales

    I had a good product The Two Week Diet from Clickbank gravity 73
    I had good targeted keywords
    Everything was set up correctly
    Nothing was misleading

    So why am I not seeing sales or even opt ins no one confirmed and with Aweber they wont let me disable the double opt in confirmation cause my account is still new I emailed the help desk.

    Other things work mentioning:
    I linked to the landing page or clickmagick rotator link

    I got banned from Google ads the first day I made my account. I applied a coupon and they said suspicious activity in payment and banned me I emailed countless times they still wont let me advertise. My chase debit card was mines and everything was legal and legit I put on there

    I got banned several times with facebook ads on my first day for direct linking to the offer ooops even when I made new profiles they always close them down and say Secure your account upload a picture to confirm identity.

    Did that countless times and facebook never reinstated my profile.

    What am I supposed to do now for traffic???????
    What did I do wrong with facebook and google???
    And despite me paying all this money for these sites (Aweber,Leadpages, Clickfunnels and Hiring a professional campaign person) why havent I got sales or opt ins?

    Someone PLEASSEEE HELP ME! I'm taking action and keep losing money by the day
    I see a few flaws.

    First off, you don't have enough data as you haven't been running the campaign long enough to come to any conclusion.

    Second, it sounds like you are outsourcing all the stuff that you shouldn't be. Outsourcing is for boring and monotonous tasks. Keyword research is very important and if not done right will kill your campaign before you get started.
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    • Profile picture of the author BornLeader
      I had 80 to start with exact, phrase and broad. Seen which ones I was getting the higher CTR on and kept those. I'm down to 30 or 40 now. It's getting to expensive for me though.

      I understand I shouldn't have outsourced it now. Thank you I may revisit PPC at a later point.

      I agree the double opt in is so unnecessary to me. I had 80 to start with and narrowed it down to 40 the ones I had the highest CTR with. 0.35 to 0.40 CPC I chose it cause I seen alot of potential for it. I personally liked the product and believed in it. I tried it out. The gravity was low and still growing and it had quality affiliate resources email swipes, banners, landing page testing, testimonial videos, presell pages, successful launch etc. I am into all health and fitness and I just really liked the product thats all. There was others I seen I just believed in that one the most.
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      • Profile picture of the author CorporatePuppet
        Originally Posted by BornLeader View Post

        I had 80 to start with exact, phrase and broad. Seen which ones I was getting the higher CTR on and kept those. I'm down to 30 or 40 now.

        You shouldn't start out with exact, phrase and broad. Also, high CTR doesn't mean it's a good KW. It just means it has a high CTR. You'd much rather have a low CTR and high conversion than a high CTR with no conversion. Are you even tracking conversions? Sales are not the only conversion events.


        Originally Posted by BornLeader View Post

        I understand I shouldn't have outsourced it now.

        The last thing you need to do is outsource. You only outsource after you know what it is you are doing. Outsourcing is not the path to easy riches until you know how to make those riches in the first place. Even then it's not easy.


        Originally Posted by BornLeader View Post

        I agree the double opt in is so unnecessary to me.

        Your problem is not double opt in. Double opt in will give you a higher quality lead. There's nothing wrong with double opt in.


        Your main problem is that you want this to be fast and easy. It's neither of those things.


        PPC is expensive but can scale to very high returns. If you don't have monthly cashflow to dedicate to it then you shouldn't be doing it. Doesn't have to be cashflow from business projects, but it has to be cashflow from somewhere that you don't mind losing. ie. $500 or $1k/month extra from a job or something. That's my opinion, some people will disagree and say you can just start with a bankroll of say a few thousand dollars, but I like cashflow because it has a "never ending" feel and changes the psychology of the risk.



        If you don't have the money for PPC, you should learn and practice other business models until you have a handle on the foundations like copywriting, customer demographics and conversion etc.


        This stuff is hard and it's an every day grind. Don't have cashflow? Go get a better job. That might be your first step to making money online. Getting a better job offline. Getting a budget offline so you can free up some cashflow. Doing mundane freelance work for people to make some extra money to put into your own projects. Something... That's the kind of thing people won't tell you. "Everyone wants to be a beast until it's time to do what beasts do."



        Stop looking for someone to "put you on" and give you the easy button.


        You should watch this talk from 43:53 until the end. Actually.. the whole series on "The Truth About Success" is priceless, but the section I'm talking about is relevant to your desire to be "put on". The guy speaking is referring to social and dating success but the concepts are universal.



        Your reaction to the "Igotmine" user says a lot about why you are failing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I think partially in terms of the optin subscribers, the double confirm thing is getting in the way. Bing Ads can give you good traffic and buy from you, but your results will vary on a day-by-day basis with them.

    How many keywords do you have? What cost per click did you set in your ad group/keywords? What made you choose the Two Week Diet Program off of Clickbank instead of another product in a different niche?
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  • Profile picture of the author superowid
    Originally Posted by BornLeader View Post

    . . . . . .
    I could look into producing software or a membership site. All of this means I'll just be further down the rabbit hole with money though.... Ugh and trying to find a mentor anywhere is like pulling teeth cause i've offered money but I dont think alot of people really know how to do this full time. The ones that do arent interested in my money. This is sad lol
    Originally Posted by BornLeader View Post

    Can you share any successful methods you tried. Other than Youtube which i'll be trying today
    You're better do that! Software or membership site or both in a go!
    If you need mentor that can also work together with you, I'd suggest you to try this video guy at webvideouniversity-com.
    He might still have a seat for you at a cost which I think is affordable.
    You may not need his courses, but you can ask him everything about IM, and you can work together with him as well with profit sharing.
    Yes, he will tell you the cost of him and the cost of other things you need to have to make it. But if you have the money... you can consider to use his program.
    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ankush Mittal
    First of all why you didn't get optins?

    the reason is hook the headline on your optin page is not Hooking your audience enough that they are going to enter the email to check out your free offer.

    just make something so much compelling that they will be mad to looking at what you are offering for free.

    Little question from you how many clicks you got on your landing page?

    Facebook account got banned?

    Here I want to be honest with you Facebook is having shitty support.

    but what you can do create a new account with a new internet connection and a new device and one of the things you can do you can have someone may be an agency who will be doing the Facebook Ads for you so that way you will be able to drive the traffic from Facebook ads.

    Make sure to read all policies very carefully.

    Google AdWords account gone?

    to the extent I remember Google also gives free calling session to a new user for up to 3 months whosoever is going to use Google AdWords.

    so try that if you can find and even I have found that google is having good support.

    Just search on google regarding adwords account got banned.

    or again you can hire an agency who will be running the ads for you.

    and even you can create a new Google AdWords account Google is not going to ban new one just go through the policies very carefully.

    why no one is buying from you?

    the reason is this that your video sucks you need to engage in the video by telling them a story and also they are not able to resonate themself with the offer that is also the reason they are not buying the offer.

    is affiliate marketing dead?

    probably not people are still making millions of dollars every single month with affiliate Marketing.

    How to end traffic problem?

    don't worry about the traffic.

    you can go with influencer Marketing and if you don't know let me tell you Anik singal he is one of the Best Internet marketer has made over $200 million just with influencer Marketing.

    in the influencer marketing you are going to pay someone who is having a following to promote your offer.

    and the best part is influencer marketing is very cheap for now.

    Now how to start all over from scratch again?

    so in order to start everything from scratch again the first thing I do recommended is buying two books and read them 2 3 times 90% of your problems will be solved.

    first one dotcomsecrets by Russell brunson
    second one expert Secrets by Russell brunson

    after going to Grab these books you will come to know all about Internet business.

    now what you need to do if you have still no money.

    just go

    the first thing you need only two things an autoresponder and a landing page service.

    for autoresponder you can start with get response within 30 days free trial.
    Alternative also I do recommend using market hero for autoresponder which is little bit expensive and you are only going to get 14 day trial but you are also going to get a full Email marketing course with that which is worth thousands of dollars.

    now for landing page you can go with tool called builderall for which you only need to pay $10 a month and you will be able to create unlimited websites landing page and all.

    now for driving the traffic.

    I do recommend you don't pick more than three things.

    the first one is YouTube with market Hero you are also going to get YouTube course for free.

    the second one is Quora 100% free to drive lots of traffic.

    third one forums.

    now do not go with paid traffic in the beginning test your landing page, your thank you page, your offer with free traffic after you will start getting some optins sales you will be able to see what kind of data you have and then go with pay traffic you will see insane Returns.

    and if you don't believe me just write this down and keep on doing this every single day for 90 days and if you are going to do this in the right way you may start getting results in 30 days.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tanay Kumar Das
    You can search for specific Facebook groups related to your KW and make Catchy Post in 20 words offering Free pdf asking for emails ids . Now you can make email marketing with this . Fb traffic converts well.
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  • Profile picture of the author sirtiman
    It's about authority & trust. If you don't know well by your audience so they won't buy from you. No heart feeling. You can throw your money in the air with your ads or killer sales funnels, but also you can be someone that give so much values to your audience and make them stupid if they are not buying from you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony S
    Hi BornLeader, the first thing I would like to do is to encourage you not discourage you to stay the coures. I'm sure that any online marketer worth his salt has had their share of lows in learning the ins and outs of this business. The key is to take those lows and usethem as learning expirences of things not to do next time. Failure can be the best teacher of all. We all have gone through it in one way or the other.



    I could get really specific and give you methods, techniques and models that work for me, but the reality is what works for one person may not necessarily work for another. There's no magic bullet one size fits all methods. Getting it right mostly depends on your wanting to make it work more than you want it not to.



    Most of the methods and systems for making an income online work to some extent, some better than others, the only difference is the folks who try to use them.



    Doing the work and research yourself at first is very important as well, it may be a little time consuming in the beginning but at least you'll find out your self what works and what dosen't . Also keep in mind that you'll get better at it as you learn what you're doing.



    My advice to you is there's a quick way and the right way, the right way usually takes more time, effort and a little help from those that already have the expireince your'e looking for.



    Oh by the way, starting off with paid traffic (Google Ads) is a bold move for someone just starting out. Think solo ads, some listbuilding and email marketing to get your foot in the door. Whatever you do don't give up now.



    I hope it all works out for you!
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    I've been promoting affiliate / CPA offer for a little over 18 years. However, I do things differently than most.

    I heavily promote PPL (pay per lead...lead generation) offers. This is because there is no credit card / purchase required to complete an offer. All a user has to do is fill out a form, so conversion rates are typically much higher compared to offers that require a sale to be made.

    I favor offers that have a make, get or save money benefit to them, as they have overall worked the best. They also tend to have the greatest mass appeal (will be of interest to a large general audience), so the potential exists to produce high volume and they are fairly easy to cross promote on the back-end.

    Some of the verticals (niches) I have done extremely well with are: education, insurance, loans, debt, credit, mortgage, assistance, discount offers, homeowner offers, etc...

    The bulk of the PPL offers that I promote pay $20-$40 per lead, but I also promote offers that pay more and less. You don't want to get too caught up on what an offer pays because how well it converts is just as important. For example, if you have an offer that pays $9, but if it converts at 2X or more of a $20 offer, then it will perform about the same or possibly better. At the same time, if you have an offer that pays $90 and it converts poorly, it may not even be worth promoting.

    I have also done just as good with dating website sign-ups and pretty good with free trial + S/H offers. I also promote a very limited number of offers that are straight sales. For them, mass appeal is still the number one thing I look for and I also look for one of the following...

    1) The product is new and/or novel-unique and you can't purchase it locally or even something similar. I don't waste my time with it once something similar shows up in Walmart.

    2) The buyer can truly get what is being offered at a decent discount.

    3) Solves a house is on fire type problem.

    However, I mainly promote non-PPL offers on the backend.

    Bottom line, it's far easier to get someone fill out a short form than to get them to pull out their credit card and make a purchase. So why struggle with trying to sell this or that, when you can provide free information that users want/need and get paid well doing it.

    Something to think about
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  • Profile picture of the author DURABLEOILCOM
    For beginners it is far simpler to start selling on Ebay an Amazon than to sell affiliate offers from Click bank. The reason you are getting banned is because you are either breaking their terms and conditions with the product you are selling or they feel you are a spammer/scammer.
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    • Profile picture of the author BornLeader
      Been there done that selling on ebay and amazon
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
        Originally Posted by BornLeader View Post

        Been there done that selling on ebay and amazon
        You've readily kicked those ideas to the kerb as if you've literally exhausted those methods.

        On the contrary those are the most simple, prime methods to make money on the internet - both offering vast diversity pertaining to product selection. Especially useful to those who are losing money by the day.

        The following thread, which serves as a testament to that fact also stands now as a fantastic testament to the fact that there's few excuses to be had in this regard now, because someone is right here getting it done with in-depth information to boot:

        https://www.warriorforum.com/warrior...days-ebay.html


        With that considered; what did you sell on Ebay and Amazon?

        What were the results?
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  • Profile picture of the author jmoney1
    I don't ever come on here reply to anything, but i decided to today. I want to take another approach because I see that you are new/off and on with online marketing. Everything you went through I have been through. Even to this day I get a little anxious on some of the campaigns I run.

    This is what I would do starting out:

    1. Always read the advertiser terms of service before even thinking of advertising for a network. Once you do this, you wont get banned anymore for nonsense. Make sure you give the traffic source what they want. Don't be afraid to communicate with them as well.

    2. Don't hire anyone to do anything for you in the beginning. You have to learn so you can solve the issues that you have. Then after learning, then you automate/scale.

    3. Change the way you think about money. This is most people downfall. They want something to magically work and when it don't work, they are upset with it. Im sure the product you chose is a good product.

    4. Have you ran your squeeze pages long enough to with decently targeted keywords to even assume that the product you promoting is working?



    I think that's all i wanted to say. Stick with it and you will get it. If you can't get it, get a good mentor to help you with it. Most eBooks will not tell you everything, so it's up to you to learn through experience. The experience can be on your own, or through mentors who have been there and done that.
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  • You need to disable the double opt-in anyhow to increase the no. of subscribers. You need more tier 1 countries opt-in to generate sales, 11 opt-ins are definitely not enough. For FB and Google, don't wasting time appealing, just create new account and try your best complying to them. Actually you don't need the monthly renewing expensive tools to create the landing pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author bigshot90210
    Progress not perfection. First off, you left out a lot of stuff. ie. How long have you sat by the way side. Not everyone just decides to do something and actually go for it with "magnitude". There is the program ya gotta get, its called One Minute Traffic. Here is the pitch, how would you like to 'answer a question" and have that post along with your link, seen by say, 100, 1000 or more people. Traffic is your problem, but you really want "targeted" traffic. Lets talk about traffic. What is traffic? Traffic is people and please, if you want to throw away money- buy Solo Ads. Listen, you have done an awesome job- but you really need traffic. Now, here is the deal. If you suck at making or building traffic, then leave it up to the big guys. Become a product creator. This model, works like this. You build a product, you setup a funnel and you allow or you knock the heck on affiliate's doors that have big lists. You funnel the product with a % say, 50/50 using the warrior+ system (but be sure to have a nice funnel, with other products in it... that is where they say the money is) then after that product is launched, you tackle your next product. OR, you can invest in products where the traffic is already build in. Ebay, the traffic is built in. I just wrote a ebook I hope to market here called Digital Downloads. I like ebay and I like what I see. Now, do not get confused with me saying you are going to strike it rich, and trust me- my sales page has nothing about making x$ dollars. I am selling a report, an ebook, a lot of information, in several ways. An audio book, an ebook, a cheat sheet, html templates, and a video course on the subject. I could use say, a PLR product and just use that as a guide. There are a million ways to make $. The most recent method is where you make a video and you retargeting pixels, using google adwords, etc. this is so new, but the way it works is amazing- however you will have to invest some money to do this. I would suggest that you change your model to slowly grow as you learn. You have 30 days to make a difference, and you had either find someone to coach you with a 30 day plan or count on changing directions. Sorry dude, I made some $ with a person with a list and I was shocked at my paypal account dinging. I sat by the side line, I did everything you did, but I did not get a pay per month email autoresponder. I did invest in a lot of courses along the way, but I have a page builder, I have some other tools, that have not helped me. But one thing that I can say, that I really like is writing reports which I have been doing for like a year, and now I have something that no one else has that I can give as a lead magnetic. I have some stuff written that you will not think of in a million years. For example, everyone loves windows. I dislike windows, so I started using linux and within just a week- I could do stuff and get stuff done. Windows, I have to fix stuff all the time. BUT i can also run specialized software in linux or windows and I use a remote desktop to connect to a windows machine to still use that software, so I wrote a report about my adventure. I would recommend everyone to get rid of windows or move to linux or a mac computer. No more wasting time fixing, and fighting bugs, slowness and stuff. I wish I could give the report to ya, but links are probably not allowed here, but they are allowed in Quora. So, bottom line: Decide if you are a traffic generator or not a generator. Then figure out how to become one or steal traffic from those that have that ability. Here is something you may not know. Did you know that there is a YouTube website, where you can find people who actually want to here from YOU, to make a deal for using the traffic they generate. These folks have no clue about IM or MMOL. But they want YOU to offer them a record deal, or LOL. something realistic. Imagine, these people actually want YOU to email them? Sound great right? Google makes it very difficult to communicate with folks, so- your email will most likely go to spam folder, thus a total waste. Well, that is all that I have to say for now.

    I love YouTube. I learn a lot. But after writing my reports, I discovered something. The real information is not there for finding. The real information is kept by guru's. For example, you either build a list, you either use YouTube, eBay, Amazon, eCom to generate or draw traffic. Oh, lets talk about Kindle Publishing. "Here is the thing... there is so much unpublished information." Oh, PressPlay, is the most TopSecret software that I have ever seen! Look it up. There are other programs out there as well.

    Stay away from anything that say, push button traffic. Not happening in a million years. Software is the #1 money maker, it was video courses, but now- the trend is software (software anything) heck, the promises the software has. Heck, I just wrote a report about this.. its called "How To Buy Make Money Online Software", its over 4,000 words- I was shocked after writing it last night. I was planning to publish on Amazon. Its a screamer. See, what I mean- imagine looking for something of this nature on YouTube. Not going to happen. I was working with some folders today and it occured to me- "How To Publish and Organize Your Folder On Your Website" to better organize your Niche. I am so sick and tired of not being able to figure it out, that I figured it out and YouTube did not help me. So, tonight I want to write about that subject and how to build your very own "Auto eBook" delivery system using eBay as a selling machine. You will not find that info on YouTube, I looked already. That's the secret stuff I am telling you- it is not found there or on google. Lastly, here is a suggestion i was told a long time ago. Pick a platform for generating traffic. Master it, once mastered - move on.
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  • Profile picture of the author BornLeader
    I'm not joining that I already know about it and got it from free from someone its not all that to me
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  • BornLeader,
    Here's a list of questions that I ask myself when starting a campaign:

    • Who are my top competitors?
    • Which of them have the best performing campaigns? (paid and organic)
    • Where are they getting their traffic? (paid and organic)
    ...

    • Who are their ideal audiences across their traffic sources?
    • How are they enticing their target audiences to positively engage and respond to their paid and organic content across their traffic sources?
    • What do their sales funnels look like?
    ...

    • What are they doing right?
    • What aren't they doing yet that could likely improve their results?
    • What are they doing wrong but have yet to realize?
    ...

    • How can I do a much better job across those traffic sources?
    • How can I find other similar traffic sources with more doable competitiveness in relation to my resources?
    • How can I create more captivating, more enticing and more compelling paid and organic content?
    • How can I create much better sales funnels for my target audiences across my ideal traffic sources?
    • How can I efficiently monitor the results of my campaigns across my target traffic sources?
    • How can I constantly improve what I'm doing right and immediately drop what I'm doing wrong?

    Well, those are my guide questions; and
    I hope this helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
    Affiliate marketing is not dead. You just need to hone the craft. It takes a lot of time to learn these skills successfully.
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  • Profile picture of the author alanclarc143
    Originally Posted by BornLeader View Post

    Hello everyone I am not new to online marketing I been trying to "make money" for the past few years with Clickbank to no avail.
    What you are doing wrong, you said in very first line i.e. you want to make "make money". I think first of all you should release from this mind set then automatically you do your best in your work. and after some time get you make money a lot. Perhaps you don't know amazon is the company suffer loss in their first 8 years but they are committed for their new logic for customers benefits and result is in front of you. So change your mind set and do your job without taking any fear of failures or success.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rbellon
    The weight loss sector might be too saturated and it could be more effective to rethink your strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pribeiro
    Since you want to make money from affiliate commissions , i suggest to build an affiliate website with product reviews, good information articles, etc... and slowly you will be converting the website in an authority one.

    Then start promoting the information articles in Pinterest (need to learn how to dominate pinterest marketing).

    that way you get free traffic to your end, then you can optimize the articles to capture leads.

    Pinterest traffic will get you a good amount of leads and for free, since if you know how to do the things correctly they will work quite fine.

    Then you can send to your list your recommendations of great affiliate products and sell them.

    simple as that.

    There is only 1 catch you need to focus the site in a specific niche and the affiliate products should be of that niche.

    Research a bit about pinterest, because there are around 8-10 main niches that work pretty well over there.

    I dominate Pinterest marketing and i am getting easily 1000 to 2000 leads per month, so i believe you can do the same.

    regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author brucey666
    Hey! if you want big results with online marketing through paid ads you need to have at least $1000 to start for the ads cost and the trick is you will not make money from the first sale but you will make money long term once you start building your list, providing value and selling them new high quality products.

    If you focus on one traffic, you don't have to use clickmagick or link tracking, that cut some of your business cost already.

    If you want free traffic, you can try website seo because the competition started to slow down a little bit because more people are using paid ads and youtube as traffic sources.
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  • Profile picture of the author l23bc
    Experienced Clickbank Promoter (Have been retired from Online Marketing for a few Years to be Honest)

    But used to do Well on Clickbank Products Sometime Ago. But i know its all changed now.

    But the tip i Would Suggest is whatever your Promoting check the Gravity on Clickbank Site & convert Rate, The offer content and Page display such as The Guarentee and problem it is trying to solve. Would you Buy it if you was a Customer searching for it?

    Work to your Marketing Budget(If any)
    Facebook ads and PPC can be costly So checking Other blogs(Your other promoters Can indicate Good keywords being Used...Google Keyword tool is your Friend also)

    Would Suggest looking up Franklin Hackett on Youtube. Rather then paying for Courses. Good content on clickbank he produces.
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  • Profile picture of the author Monica8297
    I think affiliate marketing is not dead. You just need to hone the craft. It takes a lot of time to learn these skills successfully.
    Thank you for your post.
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    • Profile picture of the author BornLeader
      Thank you too i appreciate it
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