What makes a good logo?

by Sosu
32 replies
I have been thinking about a logo, and was wondering what makes a logo stand out? What makes a good logo?

-------------- Edit-
I was originally thinking about what makes a good logo, and not just mine. But with the great ideas in the followup posts I wanted to explain more. I'm working on building a community of like minded entrepreneurs. I myself, have done everything from flipping houses to flipping domains. I even owned a cigar shop for a few years. So I'm going to welcome everyone, including but not limited to, IM, MLM, actors, editors, designers, DJs, shop owners, investors, singers and bands. Sosu is sauce in Japan and... SOSu as in help you. And everyone knows its the sauce that makes everything better. Freedom, financial security, and happiness are the sauces for an entrepreneur.
#good #logo #makes
  • Profile picture of the author piotrusgliwice
    Photoshop...
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1326135].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
    Simple, clean, attractive, related to your business, and most of all memorable.

    I've seen some logos that could not be read by man nor beast.
    Signature

    Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm. -Winston Churchill

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1326142].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
      I think Scott is spot on with his statement here:

      Originally Posted by Scott Ames View Post

      Simple, clean, attractive, related to your business, and most of all memorable.

      I've seen some logos that could not be read by man nor beast.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1327005].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Sosu
        Originally Posted by mmurtha View Post

        I think Scott is spot on with his statement here:
        And I have seen some logos that are just like a plain star. They should mean something.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1327228].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
          Originally Posted by Sosu View Post

          And I have seen some logos that are just like a plain star. They should mean something.
          "Plain" and "simple and clean" do not necessarily mean the same. This is why Scott mentions that it should be attractive and relate to your business too.
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1504298].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author William Graham
    A good logo is one that truly represents the nature of your business. For example a landscape gardener could have a logo incorporating a tree or bush somewhere. Its one of the first things potential customers see when evaluating your business so it needs to be crisp, clean and professional. Something that looks like you've spent a small fortune on.

    piotrusgliwice is correct that Photoshop is a good program to design a logo in, but it is not the most user friendly to start from scratch on. You need to know exactly what you want your logo to look like in your head before you start using photoshop, otherwise you could spend 4 or 5 hours in there and come out with nothing.

    Another good alternative is Adobe Illustrator, it's very good for vector graphics, something that is used a lot in company logos. Check out some of the vids on youtube for Logo creation with Illustrator....they're pretty impressive!!
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1326170].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author marksinclair
      Honestly, I think any vector based logo that clearly says the name or has a quality icon is the best. Also, no more than 3-5 colors.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1507086].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Paul Davidson
        I have just had Logonerds create a Header for me, and will be heading back soon to get a logo designed.

        They were quick, cost effective and great to deal with.

        So i am hoping for similar success with them when ordering a logo.

        Cheers

        Paul
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1507139].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Sosu


    I hate that logo. I do like Firefox, but is Firefox too busy? Is simple better?
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1326184].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author thenewevilisgood
    I was looking for a good logo for a new venture and was actually going to have a designer design one and then decided to pass on it.

    I went to pixellogo.com and if you click on the "3D Logos" on the front page, you can see some pretty awesome logos.

    I think having some visual in the logo that connects with your niche is essential as the symbol has to make the visitor/viewer have a visual of what your company may be able to do for them.

    Type in "technology" at the site above and look at the one for InfinitiWorks, like it!
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1326229].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author loginname
    Logo is good, but isn't it better to use plain text, like h1?

    crawler cannot crawl images, but they can crawl text...
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1326371].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Originally Posted by loginname View Post

      Logo is good, but isn't it better to use plain text, like h1?

      crawler cannot crawl images, but they can crawl text...
      The ALT tag is your friend.
      Signature

      Dan's content is irregularly read by handfuls of people. Join the elite few by reading his blog: dcrBlogs.com, following him on Twitter: dcrTweets.com or reading his fiction: dcrWrites.com but NOT by Clicking Here!

      Dan also writes content for hire, but you can't afford him anyway.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1326390].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
        I think you also need to consider that a logo needs to look good in black & white too, or at least have a black & white version that matches and evokes the same style and feel as the color version.

        This is especially true offline. Not everything will be in color. You may eventually find a need to have your logo engraved or embossed. You might run an ad in a publication that doesn't offer color printing. You might want to do a simple watermark of your logo on some things. There will be times, too, when it's simple not cost-effective to have something produced in full color, but you'll still want your logo on it.

        Look at top brands like Coca-Cola, IBM, Apple, McDonald's, Citi, HP, Sony, Honda, Pepsi, Oracle, Ford, Nike, UPS, Canon, Pfizer, Kellogg's and MTV. Many of them have color logos, but they all have a black & white version of their logo that is as distinctive and recognizable as the color version.

        Many people think of color first and having lots of colors and such to stand out. But, it is not the colors alone that make a logo distinctive. Relying on color alone will many times result in a logo that is an unrecognizable mess when reproduced as a black & white logo. And, sometimes, people don't realize until they've already invested a lot of time and money in branding their logo that it just doesn't work in a single color version, and they've essentially backed themselves into a corner: either they'll need to pay the additional expense of color for everything they do or certain branding options will be unavailable to them, or they'll need to start with a new logo design and go through the process of getting it recognized again.
        Signature

        Dan's content is irregularly read by handfuls of people. Join the elite few by reading his blog: dcrBlogs.com, following him on Twitter: dcrTweets.com or reading his fiction: dcrWrites.com but NOT by Clicking Here!

        Dan also writes content for hire, but you can't afford him anyway.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1326470].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
      Well a good logo is not a clip art image with a text line added.

      If you're in PV as in LA send me a PM, I lived there for years and always enjoy helping a neighbor out.

      I do logos, and if you know what you're looking for we can throw some ideas around.

      KJ
      Signature
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1326414].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Lance Johnson
    For logo inspiration try hitting up Logo Pond. They've got some great stuff.

    Photoshop isn't generally used for logos. You're going to want to slap your logo on pretty much whatever, so it's got to be in vector format. NEVER let a designer talk you into a raster (pixel) format logo.

    Illustrator is generally a logo designer's weapon of choice because it's a completely vector tool (think paths in Photoshop).

    Help that helps,

    -Lance
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1326481].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Sosu
    Yes, logopond looks great. Thanks

    And yes KJ, I'm in PV aka the hill. I can see Los Angeles from my back yard.

    I'm not sure what kind of design I want yet. I have tossed around the idea of a crest to a splash.

    Thanks,
    Scott
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1327000].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author whaldorf
    I don't have a high enough post count to drop a link but this page is a great resource featuring quick access tools as well as links to comprehensive tutorials.

    www dot designvitality dot com/blog/2007/09/logo-design-tutorials/

    The key factor is usually simplicity. A clean design defines all the most memorable logos, think Mc Donalds, Volkswagon, Mercedes Benz.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1327044].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author actionplanbiz
    I think people like what they are use to or can relate too.

    like the theory of the "catholic churches Founder, Constantine dreamed of uniting all the Roman religions into one (hence "UNIVERSAL") with a simple symbol, the Cross. mainly because all the religions of room had a cross symbol in their favorite religion.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1327366].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Sosu
    I like this logo, but I think it needs some work. I like the dragon idea for Sosu.

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1504092].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
    Originally Posted by Sosu View Post

    Sosu is sauce in Japan
    Great! Now you've got me doing flashbacks to an ad we had on TV many years ago. A popular sumo wrestler at the time would look at a bottle of sauce (we call sauce the stuff in a bottle that we pour over okonomiyaki or yakisoba) and he'd just say "Sosu, desu ne"

    Thanks. Now I'll have this playing ni my head all day.

    BTW, good logo should represent an idea. Look to your USP and consider what kind of image you want to portray to your prospects and customers. Then, a simple design that gets the idea across. Any logo idea should be tested out on a large number of your target market. See if they "get it".
    Signature
    Kevin Riley, long-time Warrior living in Osaka, Japan

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1504386].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Sosu
      Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

      Great! Now you've got me doing flashbacks to an ad we had on TV many years ago. A popular sumo wrestler at the time would look at a bottle of sauce (we call sauce the stuff in a bottle that we pour over okonomiyaki or yakisoba) and he'd just say "Sosu, desu ne"

      Thanks. Now I'll have this playing ni my head all day.

      BTW, good logo should represent an idea. Look to your USP and consider what kind of image you want to portray to your prospects and customers. Then, a simple design that gets the idea across. Any logo idea should be tested out on a large number of your target market. See if they "get it".
      I thought of a sumo wrestler as well for a logo. But I think the dragon would look better on a t-shirt.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1506147].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author reactorr
    There's a book by Alina Wheeler that might interest you on brand identity.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1506802].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    A business makes the logo, a logo will never make a business. That aside as previously mentioned

    -simple
    -easily remembered/associated
    -effective in different colors (or no color at all - black & white)
    -looks good large or small
    -3D are usually not effective in smaller sizes.
    -A SUPER logo would be recognizable at Icon/Favicon size

    for example Nike logo is 'silver' but is easily recognizable in any size or color. It has nothing to do with shoes or anything else Nike sells - Nike made that logo famous, that logo did not make Nike famous and no logo will, not even if it is a picture of a shoe. Lol



    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1506863].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Phil Ayres
    I think it depends on the niche...
    When I am building new sites and looking at logos, I get inspiration from this site:
    Web 2.0 Tools and Applications - Go2web20

    It has the best logos around.

    Personally, I don't know your preference, but I like a clean, web 2.0 look.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1506909].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    A point of trivia:
    The designer of the original smiley face logo,
    (It was designed as an insurance company's in house sale contest logo),
    was paid zero.
    (Two brothers added the sides on each end of the smile and made millions selling buttons of it in the '70s. The original smiley face was never patented or trademarked. It's first draft had no eyes and just the smile, but the company's owner figuring wise guys would wear it upside down made the designer add the eyes.)

    the designer of Lexus' logo turned down the original contract and opted for $1 a car sold with a 5,000,000 car cap (added on by Lexus) grossing him $5,000,000.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1507080].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author AndyK
    A good logo MUST me easy to remember.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1507160].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Sosu
    I put one on my Facebook group.
    Sosu_com | Facebook

    I want to make the claws more around digging into the world and lower it a little so I can put Sosu.com across the center.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1507800].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Marian Berghes
    A good logo is: simple, timeless, memorable, versatile, appropriate

    If you want to see some really good logos go to logopond.com and look at the featured section...that is how a logo should look like.

    And also, why do most people think that paying over $100 for a logo is a rip-off?

    I see so many ppl saying that a logo is this and that, and that is important...and yet if I refer them to an expert logo designer that starts his prices at a minimum of $500, 80% of them go "wth...you expect me to pay that much for a damn logo? I can go to X on Elance and have it done for $15"...

    (I've taken my sig out of this post so nobody can say that I'm promoting myself)
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1507971].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Pixellogo
    [DELETED]
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9686428].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author salegurus
      [DELETED]
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9686577].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Diana Lane
        [DELETED]
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9686590].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Onlinebizlab
    [DELETED]
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9686847].message }}

Trending Topics