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14 years ago

I have my own site where I link to the CB payment page rather than the vendor's page. Here is the code that I use and it works great. http://1.yourclickbankid_venderid.pay.clickbank.net

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cragar 14 years ago

how do you use this method with the new encrypting of affiliate hop links
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- cragar 14 years ago
  
  Thank You for the info and code. After a little playing and vendor product ID'ing I was able to make it work!!!! Great reply and thank you so much. I checked the link out and it does go to my affiliate sales page at clickbank.Am using it along with a php redirect too!!Great info again! Thanks
  
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Tony Dean

14 years ago

Originally Posted by DianneC

I have my own site where I link to the CB payment page rather than the vendor's page. Here is the code that I use and it works great. http://1.yourclickbankid_venderid.pay.clickbank.net

Make sure you use the 1 .

Dianne

I am quite sure this is against the Clickbank TOS - you must send the customers to the merchants page, not bypass it.

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DianneC 14 years ago

Hi Tony,

The vendor has encouraged the affiliates to do this and he gave me the link for it. Like I said, the vendor has seen the page and has approved it. I will check CB tos to see what it says. Thanks for your input.

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- Harvey Segal 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Tony Dean
  
  I am quite sure this is against the Clickbank TOS - you must send the customers to the merchants page, not bypass it.
  
  UNLESS (as stated above) the vendor allows it
  
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  Hi Harvey,
  Thanks for saving me the time of looking this up.
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NetInvestor

14 years ago

Originally Posted by DianneC

I have my own site where I link to the CB payment page rather than the vendor's page. Here is the code that I use and it works great. http://1.yourclickbankid_venderid.pay.clickbank.net

Make sure you use the 1 .

Dianne

He dianne. Good to hear that it works for you but i have had many problems with tracking on this way... I dont know why maybee it was me that made something wrong.

to your success

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Harvey Segal

14 years ago

Originally Posted by NetInvestor

i have had many problems with tracking on this way... I dont know why maybee it was me that made something wrong.

There are two disadvantages with using this type of link

* The normal hoplink takes priority over this link:
therefore you will not get commission if your visitor has
previously gone through another affiliate's hoplink

* The link does not set a cookie: therefore you will not
get commission if your visitor later returns to the site
without using the link

Harvey

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Trader54

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal

There are two disadvantages with using this type of link

* The normal hoplink takes priority over this link:
therefore you will not get commission if your visitor has
previously gone through another affiliate's hoplink

* The link does not set a cookie: therefore you will not
get commission if your visitor later returns to the site
without using the link

Harvey

Screwing around with the links then back to how one got screwed out of their commissions by clickbank.

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DianneC

14 years ago

OK, this is NOT good news. I had no idea. I better rethink how I use my website. And maybe this is why, like Trader54 says, I do not get all the sales I should have. Thank you all for your valuable input on this. I am so glad you are all willing to share your knowledge.

Dianne

Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal

There are two disadvantages with using this type of link

* The normal hoplink takes priority over this link:
therefore you will not get commission if your visitor has
previously gone through another affiliate's hoplink

* The link does not set a cookie: therefore you will not
get commission if your visitor later returns to the site
without using the link

Harvey

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DianneC

14 years ago

You're welcome. I am glad I could contribute a little to this forum by answering your questions.

Dianne

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Andy Hart

14 years ago

Have you got permission from the product owner to replicate their site and to bypass straight to the order page??

Always best to ask first

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cragar

14 years ago

Andy..Was wondering what issue you would have if a CB affiliate was doing this with your product but was not taking the credit for the creation.Basically driving traffic to a folder containing your site on his host using a link to the folder.It wouldnt be competing in the search engines and looking as duplicate content in this config > diff domain name .com/foldername/CB site.html
Would you have a problem, after all he is making you money.He could just say SCREW it then and find another CB product owner that is into making money and not picking over how it gets done as long as it is not looking as duplicate content to the search engines.

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Harvey Segal

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cragar

Andy..Was wondering what issue you would have if a CB affiliate was doing this with your product but was not taking the credit for the creation.Basically driving traffic to a folder containing your site on his host using a link to the folder.It wouldnt be competing in the search engines and looking as duplicate content in this config > diff domain name .com/foldername/CB site.html
Would you have a problem, after all he is making you money.He could just say SCREW it then and find another CB product owner that is into making money and not picking over how it gets done as long as it is not looking as duplicate content to the search engines.

Cragar

I'm not Andy but I'll nip in and answer.

It is ClickBank who are saying that you must get approval
from the vendor first - so that you do not misrepresent the
product.

Harvey

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cragar 14 years ago

Thank you Harvey, I don't see how the product could be misrepresented if it were an almost duplicate of the original, other than the optin being changed... but, The question still remains. Would you have a problem if it were your product?
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- Harvey Segal 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by cragar
  
  Thank you Harvey, I don't see how the product could be misrepresented if it were an almost duplicate of the original, other than the optin being changed
  
  Well if it is almost a duplicate like that then it cannot be misrepresented
  but suppose the vendor decides to change key elements in his version
  and yours remains unchanged.
  That's why you must obtain his permission.
  
  Originally Posted by cragar
  
  The question still remains. Would you have a problem if it were your product?
  
  Personally I would not allow it
  
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misterwrecker

14 years ago

LOL.....I never seen a title that was so demanding before.

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DianneC

14 years ago

Hi Andy, My site is not a replica and looks very different. The clickbank owner has seen it and has approved.

Dianne

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TimGross

14 years ago

(Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer and this is not legal advice, this is based on a lot of experience I've had as a merchant and affiliate dealing with copyright issues in the past...)

It would be huge no-no to essentially duplicate a sales letter and put it on your own website to drive affiliate sales without express permission of the owner.

Despite the fact that it could compete with the original website SEO-wise, there are endless other scenarios:

1) The original offer is substantially changed for a variety of reasons, and your duplicated sales letter is now making claims that the product does not support.

2) Someone who originally gave a testimonial for the product changes their mind and requests that they stop using the testimonial for some reason and the product owner complies, but the product is still listed on your duplicate site.

Here's the related Terms that covers Clickbank's policy that you cannot copy someone's sales letter etc as an affiliate
https://www.clickbank.com/terms.html

You will not make any unlicensed or unauthorized use of or otherwise infringe or misappropriate any materials protected by any patent, copyright, trademark, trade secret, right of privacy, right of publicity or other intellectual property or other proprietary right ("IP Rights").

Even if those terms weren't listed by Clickbank, any basic copyright notice on a website or sales letter prohibits you from doing what you're asking about without express permission from the content owner.

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cragar

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TimGross

(Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer and this is not legal advice, this is based on a lot of experience I've had as a merchant and affiliate dealing with copyright issues in the past...)

It would be huge no-no to essentially duplicate a sales letter and put it on your own website to drive affiliate sales without express permission of the owner.

Despite the fact that it could compete with the original website SEO-wise, there are endless other scenarios:

1) The original offer is substantially changed for a variety of reasons, and your duplicated sales letter is now making claims that the product does not support.

2) Someone who originally gave a testimonial for the product changes their mind and requests that they stop using the testimonial for some reason and the product owner complies, but the product is still listed on your duplicate site.

Here's the related Terms that covers Clickbank's policy that you cannot copy someone's sales letter etc as an affiliate
https://www.clickbank.com/terms.html

You will not make any unlicensed or unauthorized use of or otherwise infringe or misappropriate any materials protected by any patent, copyright, trademark, trade secret, right of privacy, right of publicity or other intellectual property or other proprietary right ("IP Rights").

Even if those terms weren't listed by Clickbank, any basic copyright notice on a website or sales letter prohibits you from doing what you're asking about without express permission from the content owner.

Thank You very much Tim. I appreciate your complete answer. Nothing unclear

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Sonomacats

14 years ago

However, if they were not misrepresenting the product and had a better sales page, why the heck not? If I put a product on Clickbank and someone contacted me and wanted to do this, I don't see why I should mind - as long as I knew what their URL was so I could check the page every once in awhile and had some way to contact them to let them know about updates and the like.

After all, if they're making me money and they're doing it ethically, then it's no shirt off my back. In fact, it would be a great way to split-test and see which sales page worked the best. I could always tweak MY sales page to convert better.

In the end, though, it's about making sales. So who cares how it's done as well as it's done right and well.

If this isn't a good idea, what am I missing?

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