Who are really the gurus?

The people who are really killing it will probably never be heard of here or anywhere else.

al

I wouldn't be able to tell you the top 5 people.
But, Rand Fishkin would show you the way to learn all the necessary skills in digital marketing.

Don'' t try to find something invisible if you didn't reach high levels in your life. Find what already in the market and put it in your business an your own life. Russell Branson once said people who stay in business are those who are prolific. They create something new and unique.

To reach that level you need to invest in your mind. How read several books in your topic. Buy courses. Products. Expect to fail and fail. Learn from top marketers and smart Gurus. Please if you know someone you think has always unbelievable ideas, put his name here. We all want to listen to him

It really depends on what you want to learn. If it is product creation My number one pick would be Marlon Sanders. If it is ranking websites for seo purposes my #1 pick would be Matt Woodword, List Building would be Lee Murray, Brian Tracy is really good for sales manship and goal setting. And for that true Guru I would buy and read anything and everything from Allen Says.

Google can help you based on simple keywords searches related to IM, but if you find a Warrior who:

- is generous
- is genuine
- lives their dreams

they can generously, genuinely help you live their dreams. Buy their stuff. Take notes, Put their notes into action. Develop your emotional intelligence. Success is doing simple things daily BUT especially when it feels super scary, or highly uncomfortable, to do so. I can tell you that LOL....no need to seek out a famous guru to tell you what I can tell you for free, here. The online gig is about developing a high level of emotional intelligence, which colors your actions and determines your results.

Most of the big dawgs will say: create, connect, be generous, trust in yourself and in the process, and ride out those uncomfortable, scary periods, and you will succeed.

Ryan

As far as I am concerned, the only REAL guru is one who can actually teach you to REALLY MAKE MONEY.

In other words, they deliver RESULTS because their materials work with how YOU process info and how YOU get motivated.

In other words, you might have to go through tons of materials until you find something that actually works because the materials worked with how YOU make things happen

The interesting part about the gurus you mentioned even Tony Robbins the guru side if their busines is the funnel for far more lucrative and profitable services.

Look at Gary vee it is almost as if he is using his guru status to get clients to his marketing agency.

Take any online marketer that's doing good and opt-in on their funnels.

Break down everything they do (Ads -> Landing Page -> TY Page -> Emails -> Upsells ...)

Once I started doing this, I realized what's working and what makes them unique.

Also, I'd be careful with courses as most of them are just part 1 of the upsells the guy has

Yes, i would love to know who are the gurus : )

Two of my personal favorites are Paul Myers and Willie Crawford. Both of them keep it real and you might be surprised to learn that they do not call themselves gurus. However, many of the real gurus subscribe to their newsletters and more. Much more!

I think 80 percent its about mindset ,you can folow all great leaders if you are programed to fail you will fail .I will work on.my mindset first and the money will come

The exacting interpretation of the master is somebody who is a "dispeller of obscurity." The haziness here is numbness.

In spite of the fact that any ace instructor is now and again alluded to as a master (these days the word master is utilized in English freely), generally master alludes to a strict or profound educator who not just has profound information that can prompt moksha (freedom or illumination) yet in addition has direct understanding of Divine vision of effortlessness, which has been acclimatized into their method for being.

In spite of the fact that far less regular today than it used to be, generally understudies lived with their master, at any rate for quite a while, with the master basically assuming the job of a parent.

Miles Beckler is the marketer who has probably individually taught me the most via his YouTube channel and to a lesser extent, his blog. I'm testing out a few other "gurus" right now but he's my go to recommendation for anyone who wants to learn digital marketing.

There are way too many gurus out there it seems.

You do know that Moz never made a profit before changing leadership, right?

You should read this... https://the-disrupt.com/neil-patel-a...ailure-part-1/

Be the guru you wish to see in the world today!

Most of the so called "gurus" that sold millions on W+, JVzoo - just don't care about their customers... they're not the real ones... but I've learn a lot from Jimmy D Brown, John Thornhill and PromoteLabs guys.

Marian

listen, lets say WE (our business) doesn't need any traffic anymore because we have other sources to get them from, but we are here to build our reputation, as some people said, real gurus are not here (which I DONT agree with) you don't need to be a guru, but building reputation is a thing what everyone can do.

IMO guru is someone who is successful and made good money in his core business area
The core business area should not be in teaching/courses ...

Im afraid of all the gurus who made money only by selling courses... if its the only method then he/she is NOT a guru....

Does anyone here have experience with Eric Louviere? If yes, please elaborate.

(Thank you all for this valuable thread.)

My new favorite quote is " I shoot gurus because there too many to fight"

What do you think of the POD opportunities here?

A quick million by leveraging a course being sold by a guy with a large platform and a jet?

As you said, Russell Brunson is a great person to learn from. I don't think Dan Lok is good, he has more of a cult and has mislead many. Same goes for a lot of the big names like Neil Patel. These people are making "valuable" content for their own benefit. They would never give the methods that they really use for the most part.
As per comments, the people really doing well aren't going to share their method. If they're selling their method in a course it's because they think they can make more with the course than the actual method itself.

Why not just google it - there are many glossaries online that list internet terminology.

POD can mean several things - payable on death, payment on demand, payment on delivery, proof of delivery....







Use search or just look up Eric's acct here and read his 3000+ posts..... He started out online on the WF WAY back when.....

Use 'advanced search' put in his name and then click on 'find THREADS by'...


The 'search box' - without using advanced search - gives general results.

The gooroos you got rn in your bookmarks don't make your 2050, forget the fkrs.

The worship groops swingin' out on your evry expiration ... where their kids at aftah your ass been long buried or blitzo-cremated kinda 2090?

Gooroos!

What a buncha lame-ass manipulative dipschwits.

Wanna know my favo gooroo rn?

Frickin' Shakespeah.

Course'n we can't glory up the Cosmos like evah he did -- an' course'n if'n you coarse, evrywan gonna barf their guts out lissnin' to what u sayin'.

But imagine you a big biz enterprise .... mebbe a smartass entreprenoor or blitzysquirto of contemporary magnitood -- like mebbe FaceBook.

(This is a thought exercise btw -- an' clearly you dowin' all the thinkin' rn bcs Princess lame.)

So how does this sound for marketin' pitch ...

I been gowin' for way more centuries than most people live.

Back in the day, my stuff inspired hearts and minds.

And now I'm gone, same deal applies -- only way more than I could have imagined in my Elizibethan musings.

My opt-ins, subscriptions, sales and benefits are the truth.

Or why do people still pulse them out, show up, and do all my work for me?

After all, they can't touch the beard.

Gotta figure in 2173, long after Zuckerberg had his syllables shortened to 2 to quit loadin' the burgeonin' cyberspace storagehole with crapola, an' all them religious maniacs persuaded enthoosiastic innocents to take their own lives ducked out first bcs fyootyure juicy terrified the frick outta their ass ...

yeah, if'n we still standin' up without prosthetic mechanics guidin' our evry lung toward sweet 20% efficiency, prolly we still gonna be quotin' Shakespeare over Tony *** insert modesty blitz here *** Robbbins (b) -- or anywan claimin' mewin' your tongue is preferable as a means of self-enhancement to fillin' your face with srs nootrients like hot dogs.

Or ...

evrywan else playin' now thinks they got sumthin' they ain't stole from noplace else.

That is mebbe why I so hate this self-convulsualizin' Regurgitatosphere sumtimes.

Where standin' on a platform of eternal consequence gets whooshied up real stoopid with seekin' applause from lickin' your own ass.

(Not that my yogah prowess has got that far, but hey, I'm only a superdedicated vertebrate.)

Anyways, that is where ima at with stuff rn.

Gooroos!

Tellya, anywan needs brandin' for their marsoopial-centric hygienic wipes, I'm your gal.

Seth Godin is a great blogger with many original ideas.

The real gurus are those people who inspire their following and provide them with an actionable, step by step blueprint (that actually works- with no obstacles) to make money online and create economic independence. There is a lot of theory out there and the blind leading the blind. When it comes down to it, results are what matter.

If you are visiting marketing forums and looking at internet marketing 'gurus' of course you see MMO....that what people are looking for. In some cases, that's what the guru has been selling all along. Actually, it's a pretty small market segment though if that's all you look at it seems more prevalent.



There are 'gurus' in every field - gardening, cooking, decorating, dog training....on and on. They may be selling something - but it's not MMO.

Where did they get your email? Chances are you signed up - and you can unsubscribe. Names are sometimes shared or added to lists you didn't' sign up for.

Have you visited gardening or hydroponic sites? Have you signed up for their email lists or their 'free reports', etc?

Why would anyone with knowledge about IM - give it away to just anyone who wants it? Why be surprised there is a product to be sold? Time is money in business whether offline or online.

Yes, - it's 'internet marketing' and though technically it would refer to anyone who 'sells online' it's usually confined to the MMO and marketing folks. There is online business, and ecommerce. It's not one size fits all.

One thing new marketers spend far too much time on is....sales pages. Unless you are in the market for a specific piece of information or software - or are just looking for 'something' to buy - there's nothing to gain by reading one sales page (usually about 20 pages long in reality) after another. Yet people do it - and sign up for one email list after another.


It usually takes new marketers some time to accept that 'get rich free and fast and easy" isn't reality. If it sounds too good to be true - it's not true. Simple as that.

Here's an example. None of the links work in this "successful internet entrepreneur's" website, so she could not have been very successful after all.

Dan lok does it for me

Anthony Morrison, Frank Kern, Anik Singal and can't think of another 2 but those are a good place to start.

I remember a man named Willie Crawford. I was amazed that he even answered emails. Are you still here Willie?

Neil Patel? no...

I love reading Brian Dean's blogs

Don't let Guru Envy freeze you from taking action.

Good plan, real stuff, quality copy and action action action will make you the next guru. STAY away from crap that will harm your rep...like most MMO bizop, pyramid schemes etc.

Trust me Guru status is not something you want to be labeled with. Guru money is fine. Probably why people like Frank Kern, Eben Pagen, John Reese etc are no where to be found on WF now days.

I've always consider the real pros/guru, not the ones that just make money for themselves. But their downline/list/followers - also makes money from their methods.

Too many people are in it just for themselves. Not everyone is. I appreciate the ones that really want to inspire others to do well. That to me is a real gift, teaching.

Maybe some truly do try, and just are bad at it. Maybe others just don't care. But the ones that help others to be successful. I consider those to be gurus. They don't need to be famous, or have a well known marketer name. Or have made this amount of money.

Nothing that frustrates me, I think plenty of people, seeing nothing but earnings snapshots - but no method to any of it. Just a lot of fluff, and self promotion of themselves.

A lot of the real gurus provide the method. Hell, probably a lot of them are unknown to a lot of us. They're out there. I've been shown the way by those that aren't a household name. But I'd consider them a guru.

I don't know if he has already been mentioned or not, but Ryan Diess of DigitalMarketer fame has some quality info. His free info is good, and his paid products ( I have a few ) are great!

Even if every great guru was mentioned on this thread, it would still mean nothing to you, if you don't apply the information they teach you.

Knowledge isn't power, the application of knowledge is power. So even if Hill, Robbins and the rest of them, gave you their blueprint to financial success, will you really apply it and achieve their results?

Only with lazer focus and a determination in getting the financial results that you want, will get you to achieve guru status. These guys like Tony and Dan saw the gold in what Hill and Carnegie was teaching, applied it in their own businesses and they themselves have reached guru status. So once you do as the guru say & does, then eventually you too become the guru.

Youtube is your friend sir! Tons of info especially for free! Just type whatever you're looking to start learning and you'll find gurus who are killing it as you said!