Full time !! $1,000 a month .... oh great ...

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Everyone has in their head what a "full time" income means to them. When I see people that are full time and they make about $1,000 a month or so, I'm not excited.

Way in the past I could have lived off of that, but now it doesn't even cover my spending on toys.

I guess it all depends on your lifestyle, debt, expectations, and wants.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    yeah definitely not enough to live on.

    I would say 30k per year is the minimum to be able to live comfortably these days.
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    • Profile picture of the author joshril
      Geez... I spend that at Starbucks...

      I would say that $50k-$60k throughout most of the US is the bare minimum livable wage these days. In some locations, even that is not enough. I will say I live in a fairly expensive part of the country though... median income in my town is about $70k last time I checked.

      It's really all relative though. $100k to someone might be just over broke, but to someone else could be a fortune. All depends on perspective.

      Originally Posted by nicholasb View Post

      yeah definitely not enough to live on.

      I would say 30k per year is the minimum to be able to live comfortably these days.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
        Originally Posted by joshril View Post

        It's really all relative though. $100k to someone might be just over broke, but to someone else could be a fortune. All depends on perspective.
        I realized the other day that I couldn't possibly maintain my current lifestyle if my annual income ever fell below $100k.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sirago
      Originally Posted by nicholasb View Post

      yeah definitely not enough to live on.

      I would say 30k per year is the minimum to be able to live comfortably these days.
      30k/yr? I need out of CA..
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    • Profile picture of the author David Barnes
      $1,000 a month ? Don't go with the hype and quit your day time job , not yet
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  • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
    It can't be that bad when you're in Asia or other countries. In the Philippines that's over 46,000.

    And just to give you an idea..a coke in can here is about 20 pesos in the Supermarket.

    I agree that 1,000 USD monthly is not enough to afford us a "rich" life but here you can live off of that decently.

    All the best,

    Omar
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    • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
      Originally Posted by rapidscc View Post

      It can't be that bad when you're in Asia or other countries. In the Philippines that's over 46,000.

      And just to give you an idea..a coke in can here is about 20 pesos in the Supermarket.

      I agree that 1,000 USD monthly is not enough to afford us a "rich" life but here you can live off of that decently.

      All the best,

      Omar

      Well true! It does depend on what country you live in.
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      • Profile picture of the author Oscar D
        Originally Posted by Scott Ames View Post

        Well true! It does depend on what country you live in.
        I can second that, although $ 1 000 might not be big for some I can assure you that I can live quite happily off $ 1 000 here in South Africa.

        With $ 1 000 a month I would make sure I always save a little to invest and expand, and then before you know it that $ 1 000 a month can grow to $10 000 and beyond :rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author Kevingators
          A $1000/month pays for my grocery bill with a family of 6. I'm looking to make $1000/Day.

          Kevin
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    I couldn't live off 1000$ a month either (but then, I live in one of the most expensive spots on earth...). But 1000$ a month could allow you to maybe scale back on your daytume job and invest more in your online business? 1000$ can be used to buy traffic and maybe leverage your profits?

    Any amount of online income can help you get moving towards more and more and... (greed mode)
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    • Profile picture of the author jamesnicholson
      Same here! I live in Central London and double that would just get me my rent and my parking paid :-( Dont quit your day job.
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      • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
        Originally Posted by jamesnicholson View Post

        Same here! I live in Central London and double that would just get me my rent and my parking paid :-( Dont quit your day job.
        Agreed I would need about double that to pay monthly rent here, stupid London.

        However as someone else states it depends where you live I could move to somewhere in Asia and live very comfortably.
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  • Profile picture of the author Louise Green
    $1000 a month wouldn't even pay half of my mortgage these days, but I supose we all live to our means.

    Once upon a time the thought of making $1000 a month felt like a dream.. almost impossible. And now, well, I'm thankful for what I've got and feel pretty lucky to be in a good position where working is my choice. I know that many others might not experience the same as me, so I am very lucky.. but.. maybe we create our own luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kirahster
    My rent alone is $1100 a month and I do not share that with anyone so I agree with your statement!
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  • Profile picture of the author misterwrecker
    $1000 a month will not get you too far when you are living in NJ.

    And that's single with no kids.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
    I spend on average and I am quite the saver, around $6k a month, between housing, food, bills etc. Granted I have a family of 7, but I could not see anyone now being able to live very well or comfortably off of $1k a month. My happy comfortable goal would be around $120-$180K a year.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanSupplee
    I hear ya on this one. I myself got caught up in telling people you can make a full time income online. Instead of giving some type of number figure. I laid off of it now though and now give a number figure. The reason as you said $1,000 a month is not anything. To live a decent life in the US here you need a good 30k and even then your going to still struggle. Glad you put this out here as I was thinking like you full time income... What is full time income to you?
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Pambos
    Originally Posted by Scott Ames View Post

    Everyone has in their head what a "full time" income means to them. When I see people that are full time and they make about $1,000 a month or so, I'm not excited.

    Way in the past I could have lived off of that, but now it doesn't even cover my spending on toys.

    I guess it all depends on your lifestyle, debt, expectations, and wants.
    Definitely, to some people, $500 - $1,000 monthly is enough for them to quit the rat race and live comfortable depending on their lifestyle, debt, expectations and wants.

    To other people, that's nowhere near enough and they require a monthly income for example, let's say, $5,000 - $15,000 to be able to live comfortably.

    For me, even at $1,500 monthly in the past which allowed me to quit the rat race, I still went for it so it opened up so much more free time allowing me to focus more on growing and expanding my online businesses and from then on, I never looked back.
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  • Profile picture of the author Allegro
    $1000 suck, but €1000 would be good.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Moser
    I wouldn't even get out of bed for $1k a month!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Mc Donald
      in ireland if you are unemployed you get 1200 per month from the state, as well as childrens benefit, rent alloawance, fuel allowance and a whole lot more, no wonder we are heading for 20% unemplyment rate here
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  • Profile picture of the author Tron2k
    $1000 a month?? wheres my knife!.. lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Shane Lowry
    I think 1k a month is a great start. f

    At that point you should have some systems in place that help things kick along. You should have also learned a bunch and be able to try things to add to it.

    I wouldn't quit working on that, but it's certainly nothing to sneeze at.

    Kind Regards,
    Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author yourreviewer
    I agree, that's hardly enough. And if you are married, have kids and a mortgage, forget about it. You need a lot more than that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lisa Gergets
    LOL - I live in Chicago, where my rent alone is $1300. Add in two kids and a husband...

    I'd need around $5000 monthly to be able to quit working.
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  • Profile picture of the author warmlikecoffee
    Yeah $1k a year is really not going to do it anywhere in the states, especially in prime areas such as CA/NYC. $1k a month is not thinking long term, how about kids, their college tuition etc etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Talinn
    I'm in Istanbul and I would need about $1K a month to live here (you'd add another 1K if my home wasn't owned by my dad and I had to pay rent)
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  • Profile picture of the author Ralph89
    My mortgage at the moment is £1100 a month. My aim is at least double plus my day job. The taxman said I earnt £33k last year and that was just surviving UK wise doing shed loads of overtime work/life balance what balance. Still seperated now accepted an offer on the house and will be living on my canal boat by Christmas Happy Days wha hay
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    • Profile picture of the author andrew_writes
      I would really like to see where most of the posters here live.

      I could live off $1000 a month and I actually almost do, at $1500 but all of it does not go on bills.

      I have 6 kids but one doesn't count since she is 19 but if I were really careful, 1k a month, I could do.

      I tell you what, pay me 1k a month and I'll do a whole bunch of work for one of you posters so you can make your 10k a month that you usually make.

      Sound fair?
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      • Profile picture of the author nettech
        Hats off to you bro, thats brilliant if you can do that. :-)

        Originally Posted by andrew_writes View Post

        I would really like to see where most of the posters here live.

        I could live off $1000 a month and I actually almost do, at $1500 but all of it does not go on bills.

        I have 6 kids but one doesn't count since she is 19 but if I were really careful, 1k a month, I could do.

        I tell you what, pay me 1k a month and I'll do a whole bunch of work for one of you posters so you can make your 10k a month that you usually make.

        Sound fair?
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  • Profile picture of the author actionplanbiz
    although its good compared to a lot of people that are trying Internet Marketing... it is not something to be excited about.

    but if it was all autopilot or even 1 Hour a day, then i would say thats pretty Good.
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  • Profile picture of the author nettech
    $1,000 per month wouldnt last me very long, my mortgage and credit card bills alone are double that. Living in London doesnt help either. Like most people say, it all depends on where you live. If i moved out to maybe Asia somewhere I could be a bit more confortable but if you live in Mainland Europe or the States you're going to struggle somewhat. Saying that though, who wouldn't like to earn an additional $1,000 per month on top of what they earn already? I'm not going to say no but just don't start writing out your resignation letter yet...lol
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  • Profile picture of the author hotftuna
    $1k/month? My power bill is $500 alone. Gotta think bigger than that.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    My eventual goal is $100K a month.

    Peice of cake -- only $95K more a month to acheive it
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    • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
      Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

      My eventual goal is $100K a month.

      Peice of cake -- only $95K more a month to acheive it
      Just from your attitude and posts I know you will get that done.
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  • Profile picture of the author hotftuna
    ramone_johnny, 100k/month? Now that is big.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by hotftuna View Post

      ramone_johnny, 100k/month? Now that is big.
      Yep. Im 100% dead serious.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jhf14
    $1,000 a month is well below poverty...you'll make better money at mcdonalds
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  • Profile picture of the author abbadox
    Back in the late 80's I went to Honduras and I remember at the time the average full time income for someone in that country was like $240 U.S. dollars a year.

    The amount of money you need to live on is usually much smaller then the amount you want, combine this with the variation of living expenses around the world and it becomes impossible to define what is a required amount of income to live on
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  • Profile picture of the author johnsamuels
    If you invest the $1000 back into your online ventures, you should be able to increase it exponentially.
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    • Profile picture of the author Billy Rey
      Originally Posted by johnsamuels View Post

      If you invest the $1000 back into your online ventures, you should be able to increase it exponentially.
      Yes! I agree with you completely.

      At first when I was earning around 400 a month, I just invested it back and grow it did.


      this is a nice thread Scott!
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      • Profile picture of the author johnsamuels
        Originally Posted by Billy Rey View Post

        Yes! I agree with you completely.

        At first when I was earning around 400 a month, I just invested it back and grow it did.


        this is a nice thread Scott!
        Everyone goes on about mindset etc with regards to generating good income, I think it is as simple as reinvesting your profits till you reach substantial and regular passive earnings.
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        • Profile picture of the author dariuszszyc
          There are people who didn't make even 2$ a month with IM.
          So I guess that 1000$ would be something huge for them.

          I think that 1000$ just from IM is nice, but for a normal living - not enough.
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          • Profile picture of the author Ursa Anzur
            The average salary In Slovenia is about $1500, so a lot of people and families live off $1000 a month. They struggle every single month. The prices for everything are similar to Great Britain, Germany, France, where the average salary is at least twice higher as ours.

            I had an even lower salary in my day job - around $600 a month. I was literally running the whole business myself for that money (customer support, orders, stock, accounting, etc.). After a year, I was fed up and quit that life sucking job with no real plans on how I'll replace that income online. But I had to leave, before I went crazy.

            Fortunately, I live better than 50% (if not more) of our population now.

            So, yeah $1000 may not be enough for the grocery bill in many countries (it's not even enough for my mom's grocery bill , but she has a nice salary), but a lot of people here would give anything to earn that much these days.

            Just yesterday a Slovenian magazine released a list of top 100 most "wealthy" people - the wealthiest man here is someone who has around 340 million euros. There are no billionaires here. Yet .
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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    You can always tell who lives in San Diego

    Under 8k/mo, I'd have to file!
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    A $1,000 a month from internet marketing would do me fine, and I live here in the good ol USA. Of course, I retired six years ago, due to health problems and get Social Security, so that $1,000 would only be supplementing my Social Security income. But it would move me from existing to being able to live a little easier. It would make a big difference in my life, that is for sure.
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    • Profile picture of the author kfilliez
      Everyone sets their minimum income to what would allow them to survive. I live in San Diego area and $1000 won't cut it in this little paradise if i was alone. But, if hubby works full time and I could make $1500 a month from home, then goodbye day job....

      With high taxes, long commute and daycare costs in san diego...it is starting to seem ridiculous to go to work across the county. Stay at home and save the extra money on commute and daycare alone really starts to make more and more sense as prices for gas and services increase.

      That is why I'm online. I'm trying to transfer my sales and marketing experience in the outside world to the internet world. Many people, like me, don't need to make as much money from home if they can cut a lot of the excess costs out of life. It's actually amazing how much money is wasted in going to a day job....my hubby and i added it up... I don't suggest you do that, you'll just get depressed.

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    • Profile picture of the author timpears
      Originally Posted by DogScout View Post

      wouldn't they ding the SSI
      If it was only $1,000 a month, probably not. But even if they did ding me, or I made much more so they did dock me from the SSI, it would still be a net benefit. I have had years when I had investment income and I had to pay taxes on my SSI income. But the tax is only a percentage of the income so I would rather make the money and pay taxes on it than not to be making it.
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    • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
      Originally Posted by DogScout View Post

      wouldn't they ding the SSI
      Depends on how he works it.

      You are allowed to make a % if on SSI/SSA. And you can claim expences for parts, file pass plans and other stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author chris_surfrider
    It all depends what your liabilities are and how you set things up.

    Some people think they need a lot more than they actually do in reality. It's what you do with your money and how you budget.

    There's a lot of people earning $100K+ that have NOTHING. It all just goes to tax, lifestyle cost (liabilities, leisure, toys, etc), consumer debt service, etc.

    And likewise, we have friends that certainly aren't going to impress anyone with their income, but they own all their stuff and live like rockstars and have NO DEBT because they sacrifice one thing to have another. (If you can't choose "all", don't.)

    I've put basically all my online after-tax dollars (and don't even get me started on what that looks like for high-earning Canadians... good God...) into cash-flow investments that cover themselves and a bit more.

    I also don't go into consumer debt for anything. Nothing.

    Which requires patience when you have an interest in, say, BMW M3's and 911 Turbos :-)

    So basically, we're able to live "for free" in terms of housing (our own mortgage payments are covered by the posi-cash from other investments/props), and our actual day-to-day living costs aren't that high.

    Maybe 1500 - 2000 a month on top of the mortgage (which is "free").

    So in our situation, all we'd "need" is about $2K a month to live.

    Living WELL is another situation altogether, but again depends on what you want.

    The trick is to keep liabilities to an absolute minimum.

    We actually rented a condo until we bought enough revenue properties to cover our own mortgage payments. It was hilarious. Our neighbors totally thought I was a drug dealer or something.

    All they knew is that we travelled a lot and had no set schedule.

    Anyway, what I'm getting at here is that if you "need 100K" to maintain your curent lifestyle or whatever... maybe it's time to see what you can do about resetting that or taking down some liabilities.

    It doesn't matter how much you make.

    It's what you keep.

    And what's ironic is that when you start adopting this mindset, you usually start making more money anyway - because now you're not dealing with the stress of juggling everything to stay "afloat".

    Just some thoughts...

    -Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author Charann Miller
    $1,000 can make a difference in a lot of people's lives, granted not enough to live on but if you asked most people if an extra $250 a week in disposable income would help ease some of the financial pressures, you bet it would.

    So I think it comes down to perspective, for some it's pocket change, for others life changing.
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  • Profile picture of the author brettmwindmann
    I agree that it really depends on which country you live in. I do not believe anyone could live a comfortable life in the USA for 1,000 bucks a month. That would be extremely difficult.

    I think 25k-30k a year would be the lowest a person could earn and still live a decent life. But everyone has different likes and dislikes and if they feel they could make it on such a small amount of money then more power to them.

    However, 10-15k a month range is where I feel comfortable.
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  • Profile picture of the author drmani
    Originally Posted by Scott Ames View Post

    Everyone has in their head what a "full time" income means to them. When I see people that are full time and they make about $1,000 a month or so, I'm not excited.

    Way in the past I could have lived off of that, but now it doesn't even cover my spending on toys.

    I guess it all depends on your lifestyle, debt, expectations, and wants.
    Yep.

    My own lifestyle fits well within $1,000 a month - but it is not lavish.

    Also, I don't get excited about $1,000 - until I realize that it is enough
    to fund a child's heart surgery (with the subsidy we now get from our
    State Govt.)

    So, yes...it all depends

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  • Profile picture of the author David Mcalorum
    Lol dear god, what I wouldn't give to be making 1k a month online. But, I just turned 18 and all so I haven't had any sort of real income higher than 700 a month from a partime job, hahah.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mo Faisal
    1k surely would not be enough for me
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  • Profile picture of the author acrasial
    Centrillionaire would be bigger. Screw millionaire or billionaire! Become a centrillionaire!
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  • Profile picture of the author brchap
    Reading this thread makes me want to post an affiliate link to some Dave Ramsey books or something... Wow.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kelly Verge
      Originally Posted by brchap View Post

      Reading this thread makes me want to post an affiliate link to some Dave Ramsey books or something... Wow.

      I wholeheartedly agree.

      Several years ago my household income was well into six figures. After a serious fall and a divorce, I quickly learned what was "needed" and what wasn't.

      Here's a hint: you don't "need" the Excursion/Tahoe. Nor do you "need" 9/10 of the things you put of your credit cards or half of what goes into your grocery cart.

      Chris Rempel would survive if his business were to suddenly fall flat (he sounds as if he's actually working a plan). I wish I'd had the forethought and discipline he has back when my income was significantly higher than it is today.

      Now as to Scott's OP, I'd have a hard time making it *only* on $1K from IM. However, once you have a working system, it can be duplicated and ramped up. $1K + a part-time job would allow that if one were frugal.
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  • Profile picture of the author aminjohar
    $1000 a month, not enough. I need $1500 to survive in Internet Marketing right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author lakshaybehl
    For some $1K/month is a lot.

    I have many friends that would love to work 10+ hours a day for that kind of money.

    What's 1K for you is 5K for us Indians when you think about Purchasing Power Parity of the rupee. Most things that are inmade are 5 times cheaper.

    Not that $1k would send my blood soaring either... Just been trying to put some things into perspective. When I joined IM, I was already making $4K/month or more in a part time coaching job. I was a freelancer, but did it pretty regularly.

    Now...When i started IM, I thought if I could spend less than 1 hour/day and make $1K/month, then it'd definitely be worth my while.

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  • Profile picture of the author JackPowers
    It's all relative..

    To many people around the world $1,000 is considered top 10% earnings. In other countries it's wellfare and barely enough for a roof over your head and food in your stomach.

    Here in Thailand, the minimum wage comes out at around $150 a month and a university professor makes $500. Hardly any wage slaves make $1,000 here, those that make more are already rich.

    To live in a city like Copenhagen or London and have the same standard of living I would probably need $5,000.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    I hear ya Scott. There is some kind of business principle thingie that says, a job (task) will expand to fill the time alloted to do it. Know what I mean? Income and expenses are like that. If you make 500 large a year, you can easily be behind on bills just as much as the guy making 20k a year. Your spending can easily expand to fill the income parameters you have.

    Everyone thinks it's the guys making 10k a year that file for bankruptcy. Some do, but NEWSFLASH, there are tons of doctors, lawyers, CPSs, 100k-a-year Internet marketers and professional types that do too. It's called living within your means.

    HOWEVER, (and I absolutely love this quote) in the David Mamet movie, The Spanish Prisoner, Ricky Jay's character--a con man--tells Steve Martin...

    Living within one's means indicates a certain lack of fiscal creativity.

    I don't advocate that, but I do love the quote!
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      How does that old proverb go?

      $1.00 in, $1.01 out, you're broke.
      $1.00 in, $1.00 out, you're treading on thin ice
      $1.00 in, $0.99 out, you're rich.

      Depending on your location and situation, I believe most of us could survive on $1,000 per month if we absolutely had to. It might not be fun, but we could do it. And for some people, they would rather survive on the $1k a month than face the job they're letting go. If that's their choice, more power to them...
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