[kenmichaels]

Originally Posted by savidge4

The "Vaccine" is NOT a "Vaccine". If we look at the definition for vaccine: A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease.

The setup in this article, and others like it, as well as digging deep into medical reports is suggesting that the testing analysis was based on symptoms and not testing negative. THIS "vaccine" is an "Inhibitor". A whole lot of digging found in a to be un named medical companies study findings that people that have taken the vaccine CAN become A Systematic.

Kids... A Systematic means you have Covid, but are not showing symptoms... Read the definition of "Vaccine" and then explain how one could be A Systematic. And THEN on top of that remember hearing 94% ( article says 95% ) effective? Read this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/coronav...h=7fb2d4295a42 and scroll to reason #3

We have been sold a lie. There are drugs ( left a link to a Doctor in front of the Senate the other day naming and explaining one ) that could have been deployed MONTHS ago, that are more effective than this. There are existing drugs that went through the 10 years of FDA testing for other ailments... but all of the known side effects and long term effects of taking said medication is known at this point.

What REALLY chaps my hide here is Mederna identified and started testing its "Vaccine" 2 days after getting the gnome. and yet received 10's of Billions of dollars for research. There were HUNDREDS of billions if not a trillion plus spent from the likes of the Gates foundation and governments from around the world, for something that was identified in 2 days - and is not an actual "Vaccine" and might be 50% effective.

The DRUG is less effective than an N-95 Mask.

I would love the ability to follow the money trail on this one, because this is flat out corruption on a world scale.

Uh - for all the shit people give me for having CNN on my watch list - maybe some of you guys should watch it. No deep dive was needed to find this info, CNN, 13 and, my local 9, have been mentioning it for weeks.

and, yeah - it's not a vaccine, it's, an inhibitor that keeps you from dying and maybe getting anything severe, but it doesn't keep you from getting it and, so far, no one is even sure if you can still spread it after getting it.

To be sold a lie, you have to be told a lie. They have been pretty open about it what this vaccination is.
So sold a pack of lies - yes, but, this isn't one of them.

[Odahh]

Originally Posted by Jeffery

Mother nature sometimes heals itself. Remember Global Warming and the Amazon Rain Forest Ozone problem.


Mother nature is at survival risk owed to over population? Would mother nature heal itself? How?


Remember bees from the south and murder hornets from the north entering the U.S.? It seems mother nature's honey bees have found an effective way to ward off the murder hornet's attack on the bee's hives.

Buyer beware.

In africa .. where the more aggressive bees are.. the are just called bees .. in Japan where the big hornet come from .. they are just giant hornets or what ever the Japanese word is . and south America has adapted to the killer bees ..

We in the USA just like to make things sound far more dangerous ..

now on to mother nature .. ..it is not our population that poses a threat .. it is our economic growth model ..the very growth model the covid lockdowns haf taken a sledge hammer too the last 9 months ..

the way we grow food ..is the biggest driver of our destruction of the ecosystem .. we have a number of technologies that reduce the footprint required to grow food and allow food to be grown close to the consumer .. instead of shipping food all over the place ..


if the purpose of covid .. is to demolish mush of the growth model putting the future of the planet at risk .. ..once the stock market crashes and hundreds of companies being kept alive from buy backs .. covid might dissapear even before we think
.

[kenmichaels]

Originally Posted by Odahh

In africa .. where the more aggressive bees are.. the are just called bees .. in Japan where the big hornet come from .. they are just giant hornets or what ever the Japanese word is . and south America has adapted to the killer bees ..

We in the USA just like to make things sound far more dangerous ..

now on to mother nature .. ..it is not our population that poses a threat .. it is our economic growth model ..the very growth model the covid lockdowns haf taken a sledge hammer too the last 9 months ..

the way we grow food ..is the biggest driver of our destruction of the ecosystem .. we have a number of technologies that reduce the footprint required to grow food and allow food to be grown close to the consumer .. instead of shipping food all over the place ..


if the purpose of covid .. is to demolish mush of the growth model putting the future of the planet at risk .. ..once the stock market crashes and hundreds of companies being kept alive from buy backs .. covid might dissapear even before we think
.

The reason we added "killer" is because they decimate our honey bee nests in about 20 minutes, not to make it sound more dangerous. These bees don't pollinate, so they will take over and then we can kiss our outdoor agriculture bye-bye.

And IMHO, you're correct, our approach to food distro is bad and our last mile set up, is as stupid as it gets.

[lanfear63]

One thing that should be said. The similar, Spanish Flu that estimates say killed between 20 and 100 million (more than the casualties of the first world war) ran for less than 2 years (appx)

Also, what with the war and the virus itself adding to the deaths, there were considerably less people on the planet back then anyway, to catch it. But, they may have closed schools but not businesses so even with less people it propagated with abandon in communities.

Compared with those figures, just over 1.5 million deaths means we are doing well, even without a vaccine.

In 1918 the population of the world was around 1.5 Billion. If the true death rate was 100 million then, that would mean about 6% of the population died from it.

So given that, the Spanish Flu went through the entire world and killed everyone that was vulnerable to dying from it. It is only now that we have better medical equipment, better sanitation, more knowledge, have shut more things down or restricted them etc, that we are doing well in comparison.

It may be a slightly flawed conclusion, as no one seems to know the exact figures of the Spanish Flu deaths. But, it would appear it only died out after doing its thing and many who got it and did not die, contributed to herd immunity.

Our ability to continue as we are in taking precautions indefinitely is not desirable or practical for our world economy.

So, in the long run, we need the vaccine and should take it. Otherwise, our resilience will eventually break down and the world deaths will make the the Spanish Flu ones look like a drop in the bucket.

The only "Unless" is that Covid does mutate by itself into something non life threatening.

[DWolfe]

Originally Posted by kenmichaels

And IMHO, your correct, our approach to food distro is bad and our last mile set up, is as stupid as it gets.

We have done it to our selves. Here in NJ Route 33 a few years ago was nothing but Farmland. Now just about every piece of property is being developed. If it has not been developed already.

One town nearby had a big farm. Persevered it under the farmland preservation act. Today it is a dog park ! No food grown there. My town the same thing, a nice horse farm where they grew corn across the street. Now has Luxury Condo's being built.

Something has to change in this country or we will be food dependent on other sources. Covid has also caused a growing problem. https://www.wsj.com/articles/food-cr...ic-11601991326

[Claude Whitacre]

Well...
Yesterday 3,054 people in the US died from Covid (according to the CDC)

A record for this country. A record for any country.

And for the last week, the number one cause of death in the US.

[Declan O Flaherty]

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Well...
Yesterday 3,054 people in the US died from Covid (according to the CDC)

A record for this country. A record for any country.

And for the last week, the number one cause of death in the US.

Those masks, social distancing and lock downs have worked a treat then, yes?

Can't wait to get an experimental vaccine injected into myself and my kids for a virus with a 99.7% survival rate for anyone below 65.

The common sense in this thread is off the scales, ya hear?

[savidge4]

Originally Posted by kenmichaels

Uh - for all the shit people give me for having CNN on my watch list - maybe some of you guys should watch it. No deep dive was needed to find this info, CNN, 13 and, my local 9, have been mentioning it for weeks.

and, yeah - it's not a vaccine, it's, an inhibitor that keeps you from dying and maybe getting anything severe, but it doesn't keep you from getting it and, so far, no one is even sure if you can still spread it after getting it.

To be sold a lie, you have to be told a lie. They have been pretty open about it what this vaccination is.
So sold a pack of lies - yes, but, this isn't one of them.

The lie is this... yes you can get covid, and pass covid - the information is there if you dig deep enough. The suggestion is the drug is 95% effective... but only to 50% of those that take it, because on a good day this should be labeled as a 47.5% success rate. Hence THE LIE

So lets put that into real numbers we can understand. as of right now the United States is sitting on 40,000,000 Pfizer doses.. this will be injected into 26,000,000 million people. of those 26,000,000 it will only be effective at 95% in 50% of those folks. 13,000,000 people will have an inhibitor - but can still get and pass Covid.

The only way to identify the 13,000,000 it is working for, from those that it is not working is symptoms becoming apparent.

Bud watch this: youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w&t=36s THIS has already been through 15 years of FDA approval in terms of use and side effects and what ever else, it simply is not "Ok'd" for the use with Covid. uh you take this once a day and you DONT get Covid - CANT get Covid.. and in turn you are not A Systematic and cant pass it. The success rates he provides are literally just that, SUCCESS rates and not caveated sucksess rates.. of the 50% that this works its 95% effective. This in itself is the lie.

Like I said, wearing an N-95 mask is mathematically more effective than the "Vaccine" This is right in there with 1 step forward and 2 steps back vs other available options.

Read this: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301176588.html They use the term "Inhibit". BUT there is a more than fine line between inhibiting getting Covid, and inhibiting its symptoms. This spray, and the pill above Inhibit contracting Covid and the current set of vaccines inhibit the symptoms.

Why on Gods green earth would you distribute a drug that kinda sorta 50% of the time does half the job when there are drugs out there that WILL do the job?

Like all things political... there is an ends to the means... and one has to look at this stuff and wonder what the ends is at this point, because it is NOT the means to end the virus.. where there are clearly options out there would do exactly that.

[Jeffery]

Originally Posted by Declan O Flaherty

Those masks, social distancing and lock downs have worked a treat then, yes?

There are two camps:

Camp #1. When 100% of people wear masks and 100% of people practice social distancing and 100% of the people are locked down the end result is an effective mean to prevent the spread.

vs.

Camp #2. People that do not participate or practice any of the above the end result is an effective means to spread.

Thus there is a problem.

Originally Posted by Declan O Flaherty

Can't wait to get an experimental vaccine injected into myself and my kids for a virus with a 99.7% survival rate for anyone below 65.

Didn't you say that COVID 19 is a hoax #681 ? Why would you all of a sudden get a vaccine for something that does not exist?

Originally Posted by Declan O Flaherty

The common sense in this thread is off the scales, ya hear?

I hear ya. You make perfect off the scales sense.

[Claude Whitacre]

Originally Posted by savidge4

The lie is this... yes you can get covid, and pass covid - the information is there if you dig deep enough. The suggestion is the drug is 95% effective... but only to 50% of those that take it, because on a good day this should be labeled as a 47.5% success rate. Hence THE LIE

I've read several articles after searching for "Covid drug 95% of 50%" and can't find a thing that mentions that it works on 45% of 50% of the people who take it.

Are you talking about the blind tests, where 50% are given a placebo?? Do you have a source if it's something different?

[Princess Balestra]

Originally Posted by Declan O Flaherty

Can't wait to get an experimental vaccine injected into myself and my kids for a virus with a 99.7% survival rate for anyone below 65.

Since when was science evah diptheriorah?

[savidge4]

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I've read several articles after searching for "Covid drug 95% of 50%" and can't find a thing that mentions that it works on 45% of 50% of the people who take it.

Are you talking about the blind tests, where 50% are given a placebo?? Do you have a source if it's something different?

If you look at this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/coronav...h=7fb2d4295a42 and look at "Reason 3" this is where the door is left open. There is a Stanford study that is behind a closed pay door that does more than imply, and if you look at the Moderna reports ( some of these are now no longer accessible was even more implicit with this number. ) I found this: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022483 scroll down just above "Conclusion" and next to Figure 2 you can read under section "SARS-COV-2 NEUTRALIZATION RESPONSES" "After the first vaccination, PsVNA responses were detected in less than half the participants, and a dose effect was seen (50% inhibitory dilution"

You then read down further in the report and statements such as: "In this interim report of follow-up of participants through day 57, we were not able to assess the durability of the immune responses; however, participants will be followed for 1 year after the second vaccination with scheduled blood collections throughout that period to characterize the humoral and cellular immunologic responses." kind of jump out as a bit shocking...

Hope that makes it a bit clearer!

[Janice Sperry]

One thing I think we can ALL agree on...

Princess Balestra has a great new avatar!

[Claude Whitacre]

Originally Posted by savidge4

If you look at this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/coronav...h=7fb2d4295a42 and look at "Reason 3" this is where the door is left open. There is a Stanford study that is behind a closed pay door that does more than imply, and if you look at the Moderna reports ( some of these are now no longer accessible was even more implicit with this number. ) I found this: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022483 scroll down just above "Conclusion" and next to Figure 2 you can read under section "SARS-COV-2 NEUTRALIZATION RESPONSES" "After the first vaccination, PsVNA responses were detected in less than half the participants, and a dose effect was seen (50% inhibitory dilution"

You then read down further in the report and statements such as: "In this interim report of follow-up of participants through day 57, we were not able to assess the durability of the immune responses; however, participants will be followed for 1 year after the second vaccination with scheduled blood collections throughout that period to characterize the humoral and cellular immunologic responses." kind of jump out as a bit shocking...

Hope that makes it a bit clearer!

After I posted, I read (and watched) the links you provided. I researched the doctor in the video (the link you gave) and the drug he was talking about. I think I understand better now. Thanks for making it clearer.

[lanfear63]

Originally Posted by Declan O Flaherty

Those masks, social distancing and lock downs have worked a treat then, yes?

Can't wait to get an experimental vaccine injected into myself and my kids for a virus with a 99.7% survival rate for anyone below 65.

The common sense in this thread is off the scales, ya hear?

So you have some figures to show us that would estimate the death rate if lockdowns, masks and social distancing etc had not been promoted? No? Perhaps look at the Spanish Flu to get an idea.

[savidge4]

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

After I posted, I read (and watched) the links you provided. I researched the doctor in the video (the link you gave) and the drug he was talking about. I think I understand better now. Thanks for making it clearer.

here is another added piece for reading: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...evere-covid-19

What is of interest here is " Only 11 people who received two doses of the vaccine developed COVID-19 symptoms after being infected with the pandemic coronavirus, versus 185 symptomatic cases in a placebo group. "

What makes this interesting is the fact that the testing procedure for those that got the vaccine was looking for symptoms ONLY, we have no clue how many are / were A symptomatic. Is it just me or is this number as important if not more important to better understanding how the dynamics of society, and borders and plain ol every day life plays out?

Same article we read: " Pfizer and BioNTech have developed a similar mRNA vaccine against COVID-19 and also reported excellent results, with an efficacy of 95%, in the final analysis of their 45,000-person trial. In that study, which ended after 170 cases of COVID-19 were identified, only 10 severe cases occurred, and just one was in the vaccinated group. "

Lets break this down.. usually there is an equal Control group... 45,000 in the study 22,500 would be in each group. Not identified in total ( by group ) there was 170 people that were infected ( 170 / 45,000 = .00377% ) and 10 cases in total across the 45,000 were "severe". so that would translate to 9 people in the 22,500 placebo group ( .0004% ) and 1 in the medicated group ( .00004% )

With this "Vaccine" are borders going to open up? will air flight be seen as safe? will going to Church, or visiting family. or going to school be seen as safe? after spending 1 Trillion + will anything actually change? if you think .003% is a change for the better from a 95%+ effective drug <shrugs shoulders> I don't know what to tell you.

Read the Forbes article again, where the suggested bottom line for approval is 50%, both the placebo and medicated groups in these test trials qualify and then some.

And again.. there are meds on the market right now that definitively answer the questions above.. would it be safe to... and the answer becomes YES, or at the very least closer to YES.

[savidge4]

Originally Posted by lanfear63

So you have some figures to show us that would estimate the death rate if lockdowns, masks and social distancing etc had not been promoted? No? Perhaps look at the Spanish Flu to get an idea.

Not that I am agreeing... but a little math using the Sweden model would be a good indicator.

Population of Sweden: 10,000,000
Population of the United States: 330,000,000

So you simply multiply Swedens results by 33

Sweden Cases: 305,000 ( x33 = 10,065,000 )
Sweden Deaths: 7300 ( x33 = 240,900 )

United States Cases: 15,600,000
United States Deaths: 292,000

Can quickly calculate death percentages; The States: 1.8% and Sweden: 1.5%

A variable in looking at numbers like this would be the obvious areas of population density in many cities within the United States, which would have an effect of increasing numbers. Average age of population would also play a factor obviously. Other than that they are pretty even.

[Declan O Flaherty]

There's a drug that was tried with 1200 hospital workers.

800 got the drug and NONE got sick.

400 did not and over 200 got sick.

The drug’s name is Ivermectin and it has been in use since the late 1970s..

The FDA, CDC, and many states are against using it, just like they're against hydroxychloroquine.

Pierre Kory, M.D., Associate Professor of Medicine at St. Luke's Aurora Medical Center, delivers passionate testimony during the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee hearing on "Early Outpatient Treatment: An Essential Part of a COVID-19 Solution, Part II."

Covid can be treated with Ivermectin, a cheap and freely available <== GET IT? compound. It is being denied so that expensive untested vaccines are used instead.

https://youtu.be/Tq8SXOBy-4w

Simply ask yourself, while being objective and regardless of what you currently believe, why 'this' Doctor is not plastered over the front page of every newspaper in the Country?

His facts doesn't fit into their fiction.

So many foolish people crying about saving lives, and yet, they have no problem with billions of people getting a vaccine that hasn't properly been tested. But when non telly Doctors with nothing to gain come out with actual results from drugs they have used to treat their patients, they scoff at it because the same people pushing the vaccine tell them a story of why it's no good.

The hypocrisy is staggering. The ignorance unforgivable considering the consequences.

[Kay King]

Ivermectin - that caught my eye because I've used it over the years...for my dogs

ivermectin may be used in the treatment of mites (demodectic mange, scabies, and ear mites), intestinal parasites (hookworms, roundworms), and capillaria. In cats, ivermectin may be used to treat ear mites and cat scabies.

This is one of many drugs that several reputable experts have put forward as having potential - and it's not true that the FDA has ignored the potential if this particular drug.

https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinar...ovid-19-humans

In 2011 - the quote below was published from the link below the quote:

... the Kitasato Institute has initiated a global collaboration to investigate all properties and potential of a range of ivermectin analogues, both individually and in combination, particularly with a view to having a ready-made alternative should resistance to current ivermectin monotherapy ever threaten ongoing disease elimination campaigns.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/

So the question is whether a virus is treated as a 'parasite' ..interesting...

[Jeffery]

Son;
Look ma, I just got a free COVID treatment from the veterinarian.


Mom:
Thats good son. Now shine your Sunday shoes before you go to bed for church tomorrow.

[Frank Donovan]

Originally Posted by Jeffery

Son;
Look ma, I just got a free COVID treatment from the veterinarian.
Mom:
Thats good son. Now shine your Sunday shoes before you go to bed for church tomorrow.

"...and get out of the cat litter tray!"

[savidge4]

Originally Posted by Kay King

Ivermectin - that caught my eye because I've used it over the years...for my dogs

This is one of many drugs that several reputable experts have put forward as having potential - and it's not true that the FDA has ignored the potential if this particular drug.

https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinar...ovid-19-humans

In 2011 - the quote below was published from the link below the quote:


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/

So the question is whether a virus is treated as a 'parasite' ..interesting...

Ill post the link to this video again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8S...ature=youtu.be Watch the video, and then read the link you left. there HAS BEEN / IS human study - sounds like a number of them at this point. The FDA is indeed SAND BAGGING.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7434458/

https://journal.chestnet.org/article...898-4/fulltext

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04602507

And there is more if you would like.

Keep in mind here ( last link as reference ) around the world there is HUMAN use of this drug ( 1,000,000 doses daily ) that has been used for the last 30 years. So why is the FDA suggesting its for "animal use"? again they are SAND BAGGING. Remember ends to a means... I could go off on a tangent about the ends... but suffice to say the current "Vaccine" is a means that is not intended to actually END the pandemic... I gave the numbers above that suggest as much as the Vaccine is only .00036% more effective than a placebo - BUT its 95% effective they say.

The data simply makes NO SENSE what so ever. It ( the vaccine) wont help anything.. and here we are suggesting a drugs with 30 yrs of "human" use and the amount of data to ensure it is actually safe, and is far more effective. We are being lied to, and sold out... seems to me, to be beyond the border of criminal.

[Declan O Flaherty]

Originally Posted by savidge4

The data simply makes NO SENSE what so ever. It ( the vaccine) wont help anything.. and here we are suggesting a drugs with 30 yrs of "human" use and the amount of data to ensure it is actually safe, and is far more effective. We are being lied to, and sold out... seems to me, to be beyond the border of criminal.

Hey, stop that. You're making too much sense. I'm not sure how to process what you said. I'll be back later as soon as the fact checkers finish their article. I'll know what to think after I finish reading it.

Meanwhile in other news...

A new peer-reviewed study in the journal SAGE Open Medicine details the health outcomes of vaccinated versus unvaccinated children from three pediatric practices in the United States concludes that unvaccinated children have better health outcomes than their vaccinated peers.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/n...ated-children/

Make sure to read the PDF document at the end with the 60 studies that have shown vaccinated children are worse off than unvaccinated children.

But you know, I'll personally ignore all that and take a rushed vaccine because it makes more sense than to even consider a drug that has been proven to be safe, and also proven to be an effective treatment for the virus.

[kenmichaels]

Originally Posted by Declan O Flaherty

Hey, stop that. You're making too much sense. I'm not sure how to process what you said. I'll be back later as soon as the fact checkers finish their article. I'll know what to think after I finish reading it.

Meanwhile in other news...

A new peer-reviewed study in the journal SAGE Open Medicine details the health outcomes of vaccinated versus unvaccinated children from three pediatric practices in the United States concludes that unvaccinated children have better health outcomes than their vaccinated peers.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/n...ated-children/

Make sure to read the PDF document at the end with the 60 studies that have shown vaccinated children are worse off than unvaccinated children.

But you know, I'll personally ignore all that and take a rushed vaccine because it makes more sense than to even consider a drug that has been proven to be safe, and also proven to be an effective treatment for the virus.

Seriously? "hey google - who is behind childrenshealthdefense.org"

Ya gotta stop taking outlier organizations that are set up for the sole purpose of becoming propaganda machines with an agenda as fact...And you really need to stop spreading it.

It took me thirty seconds to realize that any info coming from this place is only designed to spread misinformation and hurt people.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Children's Health Defense is an American 501c3 nonprofit advocacy organization,[1] known for its anti-vaccine activism. Much of the material put forth by the organization involves misinformation on vaccines and anti-vaccine propaganda.[2] It was founded and is chaired by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.[3] Established under the name World Mercury Project in 2016, it has been campaigning against various public health programs, such as vaccination and fluoridation of drinking water.[4] The group has been contributing to vaccine hesitancy in the United States, encouraging citizens and legislators to support anti-vaccine regulations and legislation.[5][6][7] Arguments against vaccination are contradicted by overwhelming scientific consensus about the safety and effectiveness of vaccines.[8][9][10][11]

[qwikaddotcom]

Blood bank blood tests are showing antibodies in the early 2019 samples. Ok, that makes the whole Wuhan province epicenter theory a nonsense.

[Kay King]

The Red Cross study showed antibodies 'from mid-december 2019 to mid-january 2020' ....finding the actually timeline would be interesting.

I'm going to deal with the real life stuff for a while. I posted above that my son was exposed to covid last week....he started feeling bad late Thursday and was worse on Friday. Went for testing today on doctor's recommendation....takes 3-4 days to get the tests back.

I was surprised as i thought the tests were faster now but apparently not. He has the symptoms big time - by the time he knows the test result he will be a week INTO the virus. His wife was also tested though she feels fine so far.

I hope my doctor was right that I had covid last january....could use some antibodies... My d-in-law is in the middle of finals and end of semester stuff so I added kitchen to my 'area' - eating is such a habit.

[Jeffery]

I'm going to deal with the real life stuff for a while. I posted above that my son was exposed to covid last week....he started feeling bad late Thursday and was worse on Friday. Went for testing today on doctor's recommendation....takes 3-4 days to get the tests back

Kay, wishing you and your family all the best.

[Jeffery]

Originally Posted by qwikaddotcom

Blood bank blood tests are showing antibodies in the early 2019 samples. Ok, that makes the whole Wuhan province epicenter theory a nonsense.

Why nonsense? Are the blood bank blood tests from different parts of the world, i.e. outside of China before or during the Wuhan and was the blood that was tested Chinese or from different nationalities?

[qwikaddotcom]

Originally Posted by Jeffery

Why nonsense? Are the blood bank blood tests from different parts of the world, i.e. outside of China before or during the Wuhan and was the blood that was tested Chinese or from different nationalities?

The timeline doesn't seem to work well. For instance, in Italy the first antibodies we found in September (the blood was taken as early as Sept. 9), however, the illness in China was first reported at the end of December of 2019. We're talking 4 months before the two instances. Add to that a few weeks for antibodies to develop, close to 5 months. Here's a bit more about the timeline: https://newsopener.com/uk/coronaviru...december-2020/

[Princess Balestra]

Next thing yanno, we all takin' nontellycillin — even tho it ain't no vaccine.


The hell is wrong with us?


Plus also, did you know your face can turn REAL WEIRD if'n you lick a LIZZUD'S BACK?


(Apparently it is bcs sweat — theirs, not yours.)

[Kay King]

,

the illness in China was first reported at the end of December of 2019

Could it be the key to that is 'first reported'....I remember quite a few claims from several countries that there were 'delays' in reporting from China...

did you know your face can turn REAL WEIRD if'n you lick a LIZZUD'S BACK

I had a cat that was wonky for 5-6 days after biting a clear lizard in Mississippi. He walked (the cat, that is) like he was drunk. Maybe he only licked it? ugh

[lanfear63]

Originally Posted by Kay King

,


Could it be the key to that is 'first reported'....I remember quite a few claims from several countries that there were 'delays' in reporting from China...





I had a cat that was wonky for 5-6 days after biting a clear lizard in Mississippi. He walked (the cat, that is) like he was drunk. Maybe he only licked it? ugh

Probably just a cat nip thing.

[Profit Traveler]

Originally Posted by Declan O Flaherty

Hey, stop that. You're making too much sense. I'm not sure how to process what you said. I'll be back later as soon as the fact checkers finish their article. I'll know what to think after I finish reading it.

Meanwhile in other news...

A new peer-reviewed study in the journal SAGE Open Medicine details the health outcomes of vaccinated versus unvaccinated children from three pediatric practices in the United States concludes that unvaccinated children have better health outcomes than their vaccinated peers.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/n...ated-children/

Make sure to read the PDF document at the end with the 60 studies that have shown vaccinated children are worse off than unvaccinated children.

But you know, I'll personally ignore all that and take a rushed vaccine because it makes more sense than to even consider a drug that has been proven to be safe, and also proven to be an effective treatment for the virus.

Someone pointed out that your link comes from propaganda source....

I just did a quick google search for your sig statement...

"Dr. Fauci is a fraud. He has no problem looking directly into the camera and
lying for the people who pay his salary - Kary Mullis (PCR test creator)"

When I type in google...Kary Mullis (PCR test creator)

The entire page is about false quotes of Kary Mullis being spread on social media.

Like this one..
https://fullfact.org/online/pcr-test-mullis/


Nothing came up in google that matches your "quote" word for word.

[1Bryan]

Originally Posted by Profit Traveler

Someone pointed out that your link comes from propaganda source....

I just did a quick google search for your sig statement...

"Dr. Fauci is a fraud. He has no problem looking directly into the camera and
lying for the people who pay his salary - Kary Mullis (PCR test creator)"

When I type in google...Kary Mullis (PCR test creator)

The entire page is about false quotes of Kary Mullis being spread on social media.

Like this one..
https://fullfact.org/online/pcr-test-mullis/


Nothing came up in google that matches your "quote" word for word.

A 2 minute video. If the man in the video is indeed Kary Mullis, then he says it somewhere around 50 seconds into the video.

Kary Mullis: PCR Test Inventor Calls Dr Fauci A...

P.S. Of course, it may just be RFK Jr wearing quite the clever Kary Mullis face mask. Not sure yet.

[savidge4]

Originally Posted by Profit Traveler

Someone pointed out that your link comes from propaganda source....

I just did a quick google search for your sig statement...

"Dr. Fauci is a fraud. He has no problem looking directly into the camera and
lying for the people who pay his salary - Kary Mullis (PCR test creator)"

When I type in google...Kary Mullis (PCR test creator)

The entire page is about false quotes of Kary Mullis being spread on social media.

Like this one..
https://fullfact.org/online/pcr-test-mullis/

How exactly is the statement made false? "Kary B Mullis invented the PCR test that’s being used as the Covid-19 test. " ( the "false" statement ) VS " He did invent PCR, which is a process used to test whether someone currently has Covid-19 " ( the "corrected statement ) At BEST this is semantics - AT BEST

I think you need to go back and research this a bit further... Its not that the quotes made by Dr. Mullins were determined to be false... it is the quotes used, were misrepresentations and creative editing of words and not those of Dr. Mullins.

[Profit Traveler]

This is so hilarious.

I just realized once someone linked a video I knew this guy personally Kary Mullis!

He was the neighbor of my GF at the time and we went surfing and had BBQs at his crib in San Diego La Jolla Beach.

He showed me his Nobel Prize! It was stolen eventually. His place was party central.

On his Fridge was alot of pics of naked women and he was accused of taking Acid as a casual drug.

He took LSD hallucinogens "to help him with his thought process."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituari...n-nobel-prize/


All in all either way I think people doing their own research is a great thing, wish more did.

[rejoji3693]

Oh, I am so tired of this virus

[Declan O Flaherty]

Originally Posted by Profit Traveler

This is so hilarious.

I just realized once someone linked a video I knew this guy personally Kary Mullis!

He was the neighbor of my GF at the time and we went surfing and had BBQs at his crib in San Diego La Jolla Beach.

He showed me his Nobel Prize! It was stolen eventually. His place was party central.

On his Fridge was alot of pics of naked women and he was accused of taking Acid as a casual drug.

He took LSD hallucinogens "to help him with his thought process."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituari...n-nobel-prize/


All in all either way I think people doing their own research is a great thing, wish more did.

Typing words into Google and ending up on the Daily Telegraph is not doing research. It's like letting a burglar install an alarm in your home and then scratching your head wondering why it didn't sound off when you got robbed...

...and then going back to the burglar to fix the damn thing.

And your point about naked women and LSD? There isn't a point. You should try both at least once
Fauci is a fraud not because of what someone told me, but from what I have witnessed myself. I hear he's coming out with his own brand of flip-flops early next year.

He's a liar.

[kenmichaels]

Originally Posted by Declan O Flaherty

Typing words into Google and ending up on ...is not doing research.

And your point about naked women and LSD? There isn't a point. You should try both at least once

Finally! That's something we agree on.

[Declan O Flaherty]

Originally Posted by kenmichaels

Finally! That's something we agree on.

Well, no matter what happens, at least we have that mate

[Profit Traveler]

In a Global Pandemic, someone saying wearing a mask is like a muzzle and they never will, pointing the finger to others on research is quite absurd.


I write like I talk, sometimes it's like a story because I choose to share in that style simple as that.


I like to give context and let you read between the lines. If I said here is your doctor that will operate on you and he is on LSD...


Knowledge begins with searching AND FACT CHECKING it does not matter how you eventually obtain it.

There are warriors here who have more of an education than some with multiple university degrees but that does not make them scientists.

[Kay King]

If you live in Ireland - why are you so focused on Fauci? Just curious.

[Jeffery]

W A R N I N G
Source is not from a fringe site, fake news site, the content is verifiable, so all naysayers you can agree that this is one of the worst days of your life.

Covid-19 vaccine en route to every state as health officials say they hope immunizations begin Monday

From CNN's Madeline Holcombe and Eric Levenson
12/14/20

Excerpt..

Thousands of vials of the long-awaited Covid-19 vaccine are slated to arrive in all 50 states Monday, as top US health officials express hope that health care workers can begin administering the injections immediately.

[Declan O Flaherty]

Originally Posted by Kay King

If you live in Ireland - why are you so focused on Fauci? Just curious.

When you have a medical fraud like Tiny Tony the Fraud Fauci on television lying to people, that message is heard around the world.

There's no separation.

There are real experts risking their careers to tell you the truth, but this Fauci muppet, who has flip-flopped from the start, is who you all listen to? It's a joke.

The guy is literal scum.

[kenmichaels]

Originally Posted by Declan O Flaherty

When you have a medical fraud like Tiny Tony the Fraud Fauci on television lying to people, that message is heard around the world.

There's no separation.

There are real experts risking their careers to tell you the truth, but this Fauci muppet, who has flip-flopped from the start, is who you all listen to? It's a joke.

The guy is literal scum.

Hey Dan, I don't understand something, maybe you can explain it.

Why is it that "your" thousands of doctors and nurses are better, smarter, and more capable than the other 10 million doctors and 18 or so million nurses?

What am I missing?

[Princess Balestra]

Jus' wanna say for the record how I do naht do LSD.

Gotta be purely nachril when it comes to steppin' out — less'n you draw the line sensibly at evocatively named cocktails, in which case ima happy to whaddevah.

What I would wanna quest-u-waaahn is how we all gettin' fired up one way or 'nothah on same kinda hormones & emos.

From Way out West Wondah to Once out Georgie Pondah.

Plus also, what in hell is so wrong with flip flops?

"'The earth's echo slaps against your footsteps;
the world's desire beats at you from behind ...
how kajwall we diss our favo footwear —
one's a pair, two's mebbe a lucky find."

This true, whethah or naht you live in a desert — or mebbe a beach.

Meantimes, as we boil away togethah on the furthest place from the Moon we seen since 1969, likely we gotta figure how to hang out sweetah 'longside evrywan sooner rathah than later.

Huh!

'Bout time I wrote out my Tactical Biting For Desirers of Eternal Slack thesis.

bcs that is what evrywan wants, ain't it?

Max slack. Zero hassle.

Works equally for dream side hustles, your latest rpg game — or the person you wish all the people in your life actschwlly WERE.

So what an abominable inconvenience frickin' Covid is.

Here's the Dark Mattah 7th Cavalry pokin' its nose in your ass.

HUSSHAME!

[Janice Sperry]

Help - Would someone walk me through how to put a member on ignore or whatever it might be called now? It used to be you could indicate if you no longer wanted to see a specific members posts or threads. I have not had to do that in years. I poked around everywhere I can think of and I can't seem to find it.

Thanks in advance...

Edit: This post is following the princess and that is NOT whom I wish to "ignore."

[Kay King]

Janice -


Click on 'user cp' in white toolbar - 'edit options' and on the left in the red list, under 'settings and options' you'll see the 'ignore' function.


NO ONE ignores the princess....

[Princess Balestra]

Originally Posted by Janice Sperry

Edit: This post is following the princess and that is NOT whom I wish to "ignore."

Originally Posted by Kay King

Janice -

NO ONE ignores the princess....

Yipes!



Now I blushin' like a beetroot!


Gotta throw a sack ovah my head to covah my embarrassment.


Mebbe I could poke eyeholes in it an' convert it into a dinky mask.


Yeah, that is my home craft project for today — an' when I am done, I shall go shop for zucchini in it.

[Profit Traveler]

The problem with 2020 was/is platforms abusing their authority during COVID.

Yahoo deleted its comment section to help yahoo's agenda.


Twitter waited 4 years to call a lie a lie or disputed.


Zuckerburg was bias in the ads that got yanked and approved.

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