Word Press Direct - 30 Day Challenge

by logosi 20 replies
This isn't news, since the 30 day challenge has been around for (well at least 30 days right) but I hadn't participated due to (hmmm. Work/life/IM/blogging/procrastination). Anyway got the link for the frank kern grass skirt video..

Get Easy, Free Google Traffic

and that lead me to

Wordpress Direct Auto WordPress Installer

and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with the system? It uses Wordpress (duh), but has a lot of plugin/automation built in. Was considering it, but thought I'd run it by the forum and see what the temperature was. There monthly fees are enough to at least think before typing in the CC numbers, but they due offer a freebie upfront to try.
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  • Profile picture of the author Asher
    *bump*

    I'm bumping this cause I wanna know too.
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    • Profile picture of the author logosi
      I've gone ahead and joined the free version, watching/reading tutorial now. Would love to hear from a member.
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      • Profile picture of the author AudibleMarketing
        There are other threads on this topic, but I will say that it very much depends what you are intending to use it for. I have written a blog post with my own review at:

        Wordpress Direct - The Review: Multiple Wordpress Blogs in a Jiffy! | IM Geek Girl

        It is too extensive to detail everything here, but I have tried to be as honest as possible about my feelings on Wordpress Direct - some aspects I love, and some I don't.

        I think it was ideal for getting thousands of Thirty Day Challengers online very quickly but whether they continue using it should depend very much on their business model.

        Many people are slating it as something only useful for newbies, but I think the real value is being overlooked. This is actually a tool for someone more experienced who wants to create blog networks and/or revive old websites and domains quickly and easily.

        It is a lot quicker than creating and updating multiple wordpress blogs by yourself, unless you are very skilled at it and have an automated system of your own.

        Lisa
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  • Profile picture of the author Erich
    I signed up for the Gold Package over a week ago. Now I am in the process of getting a refund. The reason for the past 3 days I have been unable to get it to actually work. The error is happening on the site side as it is unable to connect to a backend server and complete the deployment once the settings have been entered. I don't know if they have grown too much since and are now running into issues.

    I would strongly recommend trying out for free if you can but I still haven't been able to launch a site successfully. Hopefully others have had better success.
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  • Profile picture of the author lawton3920
    It don't work is rite 30 Day Challenge I just did it and don't like there site having control of my website and yes they want your cpanel password and user name. this is why i just removed it from my sig file.
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    • Profile picture of the author magentawave
      Originally Posted by lawton3920 View Post

      It don't work is rite 30 Day Challenge I just did it and don't like there site having control of my website and yes they want your cpanel password and user name. this is why i just removed it from my sig file.
      But who cares if you are self-hosting your sites?

      Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author magentawave
        I just saw the Frank Kern video too and was checking out the WDP site and this is what I'm wondering...

        WDP claims to get sites ranked high with Google FAST and they say it can suck content off other sites and automatically put it on your site. Cool. I already know that lots of new sites can get an initial boost, and I know that WP sites tend to be Google friendly.

        Neal Shearing sold a system last year that sucked rss feeds off other sites and his example wine site ranked well with Google briefly during his launch, but then it slipped away into internet oblivion not too long after his launch ended.

        So my questions about WDP are...

        1) How much do all the WDP levels cost per month, and what are the main differences between each level of membership?

        2) Will a WDP built site (using the auto generated content feature) continue to rank well with Google...or will it fade away if you do NOT get a few backlinks per week?

        Can someone answer that please?

        Steve
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        • Profile picture of the author Greg Cooksley
          Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

          I just saw the Frank Kern video too
          and was checking out the WDP site and this is what I'm wondering...

          WDP claims to get sites ranked high with Google FAST and they
          say it can suck content off other sites and automatically put
          it on your site. Cool. I already know that lots of new sites
          can get an initial boost, and I know that WP sites tend to be
          Google friendly.

          Neal Shearing sold a system last year that sucked rss feeds off
          other sites and his example wine site ranked well with Google
          briefly during his launch, but then it slipped away into internet
          oblivion not too long after his launch ended.

          So my questions about WDP are...

          1) How much do all the WDP levels cost per month, and what are
          the main differences between each level of membership?

          2) Will a WDP built site (using the auto generated content feature)
          continue to rank well with Google...or will it fade away if you
          do NOT get a few backlinks per week?

          Can someone answer that please?

          Steve
          I'm also keen to see the answers as well....

          Please anyone...

          Regards

          Greg
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  • Profile picture of the author GuruGazette
    I can't comment on WDP specifically but I can tell you my own experiences with both automated sites AND generated sites. There is a difference.

    I love automated WP sites and use them extensively in my business.

    "Scraper" sites which pull content from other sources around the web, are something I stay away from.

    About three years ago I had a test network of roughly 100 sites. The sole purpose of that network was to test various scraping methods. All of the sites were running WordPress, but there were some differences in the way I manipulated content:

    - Some scraped search engine results (ala Traffic Equalizer) and put those into blog posts.

    - Some scraped RSS feeds and put one feed item (snippet/summary) into each post.

    - Some scraped RSS feeds and put multiple feed items into each post. In some cases these were the feeds from one site, and in some cases they were a mixture of different feeds.

    - Some scraped RSS feeds and put multiple items into each post PLUS those feeds were updated each time someone "read" the individual post page on my site.

    These sites did amazingly well for traffic, and most of them earned *excellent* money too... for about 3 months.

    On average, Google would ban them after they'd been up for about 3 months. Now when I say banning, I mean removed from the SERPs. They weren't buried back on page 1000, and they weren't listed as a "supplemental result" (which didn't exist back then). If you searched for a specific domain in Google, it would tell you there was no such site found.

    As someone already said earlier though: This type of site is fantastic for doing niche and keyword research. They're fast to put up, and fast to see results from. So if you use the knowledge you gain from them to put up more credible, longer lasting sites, they're somewhat worth it. They can also get you some fast, short-lived links to another more important site.

    When you scrape other people's content onto sites like these though, you do open yourself up for complaints. Some of the owners of the original content can get pretty ticked off to find it being scraped onto a site like this, because most people consider these sites spam.

    With all that said of course, back when I did my scraper test there was no YouTube and Yahoo Answers, so I have no idea if putting those sources into the mix will help lend more credibility or not.

    Automated sites on the other hand, contain "regular" content like you see on sites all over the web every day. The main difference is that instead of posting that content manually as it's created, you have a system in place that automates the publishing.

    I use automated sites to publish PLR content for example, large batches of articles I've written myself, articles I've hired ghostwriters to create, affiliate product information or reviews, and so on.

    It's not "sucked in", taken, stolen, scraped or otherwise from other people's sites and it's usually indistinguishable from hand posted content sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author magentawave
      Originally Posted by GuruGazette View Post

      I can't comment on WDP specifically but I can tell you my own experiences with both automated sites AND generated sites.

      As someone already said earlier though: This type of site is fantastic for doing niche and keyword research. They're fast to put up, and fast to see results from. So if you use the knowledge you gain from them to put up more credible, longer lasting sites, they're somewhat worth it. They can also get you some fast, short-lived links to another more important site.
      Hmmm, very interesting and just to make sure I'm understanding you correctly here...

      Are you saying that you create scraper type sites to suck content off other sites strictly for the purposes of gathering research for possible future sites where you might re-write the content?

      I don't understand what you mean by getting "fast, short-lived links to another more important site." Are you saying that after you determine from the trial content sucking site that you want to create a real site based on that subject, that you will then get back links from the other sites to your new real site?

      Thanks.
      Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author GuruGazette
        Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

        Hmmm, very interesting and just to make sure I'm understanding you correctly here...

        Are you saying that you create scraper type sites to suck content off other sites strictly for the purposes of gathering research for possible future sites where you might re-write the content?

        I don't understand what you mean by getting "fast, short-lived links to another more important site." Are you saying that after you determine from the trial content sucking site that you want to create a real site based on that subject, that you will then get back links from the other sites to your new real site?

        Thanks.
        Steve
        Hi Steve,

        For the record: No I don't do these types of scraper sites. I consider it another form of rat race when you have to constantly rebuild sites on new domains every 2-3 months because they're getting banned in search engines.

        These days I build content and affiliate sites that are designed to grow organically on their own and last for many years to come. They're not scraped or "sucked up" content from other sites.

        I did my scraper experiments several years ago for a variety of reasons. The main one was to figure out which types of automation would work the best for me, and that's a big part of how I got to the systems I use today.

        At that time I didn't even realize I'd be getting such a goldmine of keyword/research info from the sites, because I had no idea how they'd work, or if they'd even work at all.

        As for the fast short term links: Doing the research first and then putting up a more long term type of site is one way to do it, but I did it the opposite way.

        Let's say I had a site about Christian dating, and I wanted to get more traffic and income to it. I could set up a network of 100 scraper sites with 1000 pages of "content" each, and have every page of each of those sites linking to my primary Dating site. This would give me 100,000 links to the site I wanted traffic at, for the 2-3 months that those scraper sites were working.

        This allowed me to tap into hundreds of thousands of keywords and phrases which never show up in any keyword research tools, because they have such a low search volume or they're things which have never been searched on before.

        The very real risk in doing something like this of course, is that when the junk sites get banned in search engines, the site they're all linking to might as well. Like any other tactic there are various precautions that can be taken and/or ways to protect your "good" sites, but all that stuff is probably in most of the black hat ebooks floating around lately.

        And also for the record: I'm neither condoning nor criticizing this method, I'm simply sharing my specific experiences with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sam Rodrigo
    Humm...
    This is a good idea = wordpressdirect.

    however, folks, keep in mind that wordpress is easy to install and take 5 min. You might as well spend your money on a good hosting account where you can host unlimited domains.

    WordPress Installation:
    1. Upload unzipped files. - 2 min.
    2. Setup database - 2 min.
    3. Insert install URL into browser - 1 Min.

    IF you need directions to do so, on PLESK or CPANEL there are 100's of HOW to VIDEOS on Youtube that will show you how.

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    • Profile picture of the author magentawave
      Originally Posted by Sam Rodrigo View Post

      Humm...
      This is a good idea = wordpressdirect.

      however, folks, keep in mind that wordpress is easy to install and take 5 min. You might as well spend your money on a good hosting account where you can host unlimited domains.

      WordPress Installation:
      1. Upload unzipped files. - 2 min.
      2. Setup database - 2 min.
      3. Insert install URL into browser - 1 Min.

      IF you need directions to do so, on PLESK or CPANEL there are 100's of HOW to VIDEOS on Youtube that will show you how.

      Success,
      Sam
      I have a reseller account with seohosting.com (hostgator) and have a couple WP blogs, but my interest in WDP would be strictly for the purposes of saving time with all the automation it apparently offers. I still wonder what kind of legs a content sucking site would have since it would all be duplicate content?? (i.e. How long it would rank well with Google).

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg Cooksley
    Hey Kathy,

    Thanks for your feedback....

    I was looking at getting this product but was concerned about the long time viability of the sites generated...

    Does anyone else have any experience with WP Direct?

    Regards

    Greg
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg Cooksley
      Hey Max,

      Thanks for your reply....

      Yip, Frank gave this a big thumbs up...

      Regards

      Greg
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    • Profile picture of the author magentawave
      Originally Posted by Max Capener View Post

      I haven't seen the video but I'd be disappointed if Frank was recommending this product.

      Do you HONESTLY believe you are going to build high traffic, high value websites by click a GO button and leaving it to work its magic.

      This is no different to those automated Adsense content sites people were trying to sell 5 years ago. They have a shelf life of about 5 minutes and while I cannot prove it, I wouldn't bet against Google putting a black mark against your name for spamming.

      Don't be drawn in by these types of fads. Spend the time building real businesses instead.
      I get what you are saying about the 5 minute shelf life, but if it can greatly speed up and automate certain tasks then maybe it might be worth it depending on the monthly fee. Also, I guess you can make it so that the content is added automatically and you can also set it up so that you moderate what content to add. I dunno, maybe its a waste. I'll have to look at their site again to see why it got me excited.

      You have issues with Frank Kern? How come?

      Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author SarahMcHarry
        The 30 Day Challenge is all about making your first dollar online: it isn't about building a long-term business.

        I've looked at WordPress Direct and I think it is a con. There are too many schemes that try to persuade newbies that it's easy to make money online and they roll out this sort of garbage to make a quick buck for themselves.

        The truth is that making money online is not that difficult, but you don't do it by using short-term junk blogs.

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  • Profile picture of the author Kristi Lane
    I consider the automation aspects of WPD to be secondary to the basic functionality of installing and more importantly, maintaining a largish number of blogs. I use the automation features to keep my blogs "alive" in between my posts. There was nothing taught by the 30DC about creating spammy blogs and I believe there's material on the WPD site regarding what they consider to be proper use. Like almost any tool it has the potential to be abused but that doesn't make it a "con".
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    • Profile picture of the author naonline
      WPD is certainly not a con. It's main purpose is to quickly create a blog and test a niche. You can use their hosting and have nice blog up in a few minutes. I created a blog with WPD and was indexed and ranked within a matter of hours. I created similar blog with WP and my own hosting and it took over a week to get indexed.
      WPD works really well with the 30 day challenge model of niche testing.

      Wordpress is not the most user friendly platform and a lot of people maybe put off by it because of this. WPD has a nice interface and some nice features - it's definately not a con and people who have never even used it should not write it off. It's NOT just a scraper system.

      Conlusion - Use it for testing a niche, if it's a profitable niche, then get a domain name and your own hosting and build a business round your niche as it's too early to know the long term viability of these sites.
      I found the WPD support to be excellent as well.

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