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Hey everyone, a few months back I posted about getting started again and I had decided on diving into the personal development "niche" I know that is pretty broad, but I have a few ideas on how to possibly take a different spin on it. I wanted to ask for your input on if you think this niche is too competitive for someone to jump into or even worth the time. For the type of motivation driven and self help articles and topics I would be targeting I see authority sites like Time Magazine for example ranking in google and rightfully so. I don't want to waste my time you know?



Let me say this as a disclaimer as well: I am just getting back into this and have the attitude of learning the ropes so even if this site "fails" I will have learned in the process.


Lastly, I understand that you can make money in pretty much anything, almost anything can be monetized realistically but tell me your thoughts and opinions on if you think it's worth doing and why or why not.



Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    "Personal development" is more a category than a niche - there are many ways to branch out (or zero in) to a more narrow niche that is aimed at a certain demographic you have identified.


    I don't want to waste my time you know?

    Not quite 2 months ago you were 'back' - what have you DONE since then to move forward? You will waste time - you will make mistakes - you will have to redo things on occasion....that's just how it goes.


    If your plan is to 'learn' - there's plenty to learn....but don't start a site or business with the thought that 'fail' is ok. It might happen but it's not OK and should be avoided if at all possible.


    authority sites like Time Magazine
    Doesn't matter - you don't need to dominate a niche to make money in it...just get your share of the audience.



    Most (not all) 'things' can be monetized for those who know what they are doing and how to do it. If you have a following in 'personal development' - have experience of have published and thus your name is linked to PD, that's a good place to start. Motivation and self help are big niches - but competitive. What qualifies you to write about them (not saying you can't or challenging your idea) - life experience, education, working in that area, writing books on the topics.....


    Here is what I mean: If someone asks you 'why should I listen to what you say - or read what you write?' .....how will you answer that person?
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  • Profile picture of the author Monetize
    No, you can't make money in pretty much anything. If that were
    the case then everybody would be making money. And they're
    not. Take my advice and figure out how you can make money
    online. You may need to read several books, watch videos, or
    take a course or two. Also, good luck setting up one little site
    and being successful, these days you may need a dozen sites,
    maybe even hundreds if you plan to generate serious income.
    There are a gazillion websites that you are competing with.
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    • Profile picture of the author TobiMDD
      Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

      Also, good luck setting up one little site
      and being successful, these days you may need a dozen sites,
      maybe even hundreds if you plan to generate serious income.
      There are a gazillion websites that you are competing with.

      I don't agree with this.
      'one little site' is all he needs to be successful.
      because that way he has the focus on one thing


      whereas when he builds multiple sites there is a high chance to get overwhelmed which leads to nowhere.


      first make one site a success before starting with something else
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      • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
        Originally Posted by TobiMDD View Post

        I don't agree with this.
        'one little site' is all he needs to be successful.
        because that way he has the focus on one thing


        whereas when he builds multiple sites there is a high chance to get overwhelmed which leads to nowhere.


        first make one site a success before starting with something else

        Seriously! My brain would have meltdown if no team in place or I would be site flipping daily.

        Makes me think of that self improvement guy years ago that damn near owned the internet with his one ugly epic content website.
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    • Profile picture of the author 55sadhikar
      Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

      No, you can't make money in pretty much anything. If that were
      the case then everybody would be making money. And they're
      not. Take my advice and figure out how you can make money
      online. You may need to read several books, watch videos, or
      take a course or two. Also, good luck setting up one little site
      that you are competing with.
      You have a very pessimistic outlook...if you are persistent, we all can accomplish any task and succeed. Even in crisis there is opportunity; it's like glass is half-empty or the glass is half-full. It's for you to decide...
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      • Profile picture of the author Medon
        Originally Posted by 55sadhikar View Post

        You have a very pessimistic outlook...if you are persistent, we all can accomplish any task and succeed. Even in crisis there is opportunity; it's like glass is half-empty or the glass is half-full. It's for you to decide...
        I also beg to support you on this. It is true that you can make money on virtually everything. Consistency and persistence are the words.
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      • Profile picture of the author DABK
        I quite agree. It is possible to make a good living, even a very good living online. But it requires skills. Getting skills requires time and effort. More than most are willing to put it. And that assumes you're not dumb as a stick to begin with.


        Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

        No, you can't make money in pretty much anything. If that were
        the case then everybody would be making money. And they're
        not. Take my advice and figure out how you can make money
        online. You may need to read several books, watch videos, or
        take a course or two. Also, good luck setting up one little site
        and being successful, these days you may need a dozen sites,
        maybe even hundreds if you plan to generate serious income.
        There are a gazillion websites that you are competing with.
        If you're 18 and are 160 pounds of nicely developed muscles and at 16 you use to weigh 200 pounds, I'll pay you to show me how you did it.


        If you're 18 and have a handful of people tell me that you got them in good shape or cured their anxiety, lot of people will pay you to tell them how to do it.


        The 18 part has no bearing on things, unless you make it.


        Yes, there will be people who will stay away from you because you're 18, but why would you focus on those and not the ones who're pragmatic, who see you can deliver the results they want and do not care that you're 18 or 250?


        Originally Posted by Tung Dao View Post

        Yeah, but let's say you're an 18-year-old kid fresh out of high school and trying to make some money in the "self-development" field. Who would listen to you?
        No, not pessimistic: realistic.


        Many people start tasks but not all of them finish tasks. The more complex and difficult the task, the fewer people finish it.


        All healthy 20 or 30-year olds can run a marathon. Few try. The vast majority of those who start training don't actually end up running a full marathon. Not all of those that actually start running a marathon finish it.


        Originally Posted by 55sadhikar View Post

        You have a very pessimistic outlook...if you are persistent, we all can accomplish any task and succeed. Even in crisis there is opportunity; it's like glass is half-empty or the glass is half-full. It's for you to decide...
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  • Profile picture of the author myob
    You don't need to rank on Google, and you probably shouldn't waste your time trying to go head to head against entrenched SEO professionals in any intensely competitive arena.

    For many reasons, I have found that it may actually be better to avoid SEO when there are such high profits to be made. The risks of copying your content and "retro engineering" your keywords are just a couple.

    Content marketing, social media, offline marketing channels, and even direct marketing are far more formidable and much faster than feeding the search engines as well as as minimizing risks of plagiarism.

    As little as a dozen or so articles widely distributed in online/offline publications which are read by your targeted audience can quickly drive massive quantities of highly convertible traffic.

    For example, there are hundreds of thousands of blogs, networks, organizations, newsletters, newspapers, magazines, etc that already are targeting personal development enthusiasts.

    Many of these editors and publishers are hungry for quality content to provide to their readers and subscribers. Google can be your friend to find them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Maria Miller
    I believe that you are in the right direction. Starting with self-development and the fact that you strive for it, it means a lot. Now our century is filled with new technologies and communications. That is why you are absolutely right. I wish you success in self-improvement.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tung Dao
    I don't think getting into "personal development" without any credit first hand is a good idea. But you do you.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by Tung Dao View Post

      I don't think getting into "personal development" without any credit first hand is a good idea. But you do you.
      There are no qualifications required for "getting into" personal development. Provide enough value, and you can establish credibility. This is the formula for "getting into" into any niche, and has nothing to do with your level of interest, knowledge, or even the competition.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tung Dao
        Yeah, but let's say you're an 18-year-old kid fresh out of high school and trying to make some money in the "self-development" field. Who would listen to you?
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by Tung Dao View Post

          Yeah, but let's say you're an 18-year-old kid fresh out of high school and trying to make some money in the "self-development" field. Who would listen to you?
          Never mention "you're an 18-year-old kid fresh out of high school". If you provide quality content, that will never be an issue. A common practice is to use pen name(s) and develop composite personas for each of your targeted demographics.

          When submitting articles to publishers you will have to use your real name, but authors may use multiple pen names for targeting specific niches or even drilling down into sub-niches. Many "well-known" authors are just pen names.
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        • Profile picture of the author agmccall
          Originally Posted by Tung Dao View Post

          Yeah, but let's say you're an 18-year-old kid fresh out of high school and trying to make some money in the "self-development" field. Who would listen to you?
          Tony Robbins was 17 when he started in the business of self development

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  • Profile picture of the author kjblitz
    I think more importantly is choosing something that is interesting to you. Only then can you stick with it long term. Of course, you will still need to carve out an audience within the personal development segment. There are an entire section on clickbank dedicated to this niche
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  • Profile picture of the author tryootechamit
    There is a lot to do in this niche however, if you want to stick any specific micro-niche then you can gain more profitability. There are keywords on which you can drive good number of traffic and revenue too.
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  • Hi, it is great to know that you have made a choice to return to internet marketing and with a well-researched plan and idea on the niche you are planning to focus on.

    Personal development is still far from considered a niche so perhaps you may want to dive further on which aspect of personal development. You mentioned "Self-Motivation" and if this is an area that you would want to focus on, hit out on the many online sites and even forums that are well-acquainted with "Self-Motivation" even a LinkedIn sharing of quotes and articles relating to this topic could help to drive some quality traffic to your website or blog. And most of all, it costs hardly anything. I think it is far more cheaper to drive traffic through many online avenues than to spend so much time to meddle in SEO and etc, to get yourself ranked on the first page. But it is still good to have your content optimized for higher possibility of landing on the SERP.

    Hope it helps to shed some light on your query.

    Good luck !
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  • Profile picture of the author Medon
    I think what matters is for you to choose a niche. Then you can focus your effort to on making what you do in that niche successful. I am glad you already decided on personal development. So focus your energies and resources on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
    Personal development MARKET is huge, with dozens of niches.

    What sort of spin are you thinking of? Is it your TARGET market, a particular group?

    Is your spin a different marketing angle? Different delivery system?

    Is this market too competitive? Yes, and NO. It is evergreen, and it has and always will have new stuff added to it, and old stuff resold and repurposed. I know of at least two successful marketers who are reselling OLD, public domain work, one by Charles F. Haanel the other by Wallace Wattles.

    I too, have used these old New Agers to create products. Self improvement and personal development (PD) is a great niche (market), IF, if you target correctly and carefully choose your audience and present something which resonates with them.

    Motivation is also a huge niche within the self improvement/PD marketplace.

    I suggest you begin by trying to identify a clear audience, the WHO would want what you offer. Then ask WHY?

    Why do these people want or need this product, HOW will you find them and what will you say to get and hold their attention? How will you engage them, and then what happens?

    It is just one way of doing things, but if you start with your WHO, then many pieces of the puzzle fall into place.

    I also agree with others, the AUTHORITY sites may be harmful to your goals. Sometimes, SECRETS and privacy
    are key to one's success in this market.

    Good luck, are you willing to share what sort of SPIN you have in mind?

    GordonJ

    Originally Posted by stvbarb89 View Post

    Hey everyone, a few months back I posted about getting started again and I had decided on diving into the personal development "niche" I know that is pretty broad, but I have a few ideas on how to possibly take a different spin on it. I wanted to ask for your input on if you think this niche is too competitive for someone to jump into or even worth the time. For the type of motivation driven and self help articles and topics I would be targeting I see authority sites like Time Magazine for example ranking in google and rightfully so. I don't want to waste my time you know?



    Let me say this as a disclaimer as well: I am just getting back into this and have the attitude of learning the ropes so even if this site "fails" I will have learned in the process.


    Lastly, I understand that you can make money in pretty much anything, almost anything can be monetized realistically but tell me your thoughts and opinions on if you think it's worth doing and why or why not.



    Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author thefrenchnewbie
    I think the most important thing is to choose someone that you are interested about.. So you will be able to write valuable content for your viewers and eventually rank well on Google!
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  • Profile picture of the author shmol
    Let me ask you a question,


    Why did you choose the personal development niche?


    Is it becasue it interests you?


    Or becasue you think money can be in this area?


    If it is just the money, I would re-think it.


    If it is becasue you are truly interested in it--go for it.


    As you said, you think you can put your own spin on it--so why not.


    But, since personal development is so massive--why not start a blog on it--you will have plenty to write about--of course you can create videos as well--if this is your thing.


    As your blog grows--and your reach increases--you can then sell products in this massive market.


    Hope this Helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author Medon
    If I were you I would consider personal health niche. Covid -19 is changing the landscape so anyone who is fast enough will reap the benefits.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Bane
    Use keyword research tools.
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