vent: anti-competitive forums

14 replies
First let me say that I'm becoming more appreciative of the Warrior Forum by the day when I see some of the tight-cheeked IM forums out there. haha!

I've just run into my second affiliate-selling forum where if you say "boo" you're considered a spammer.

Jesus H. Christ already!

I understand having to post x amount of posts before carrying any kind of weight...and a few other precautionary things to stop spammers from polluting the forum.

But not allowing people to include links in signatures (while having a feature that allows you to do it)?

Not allowing anyone to post links of any kind in your posts--even when they are 100% relevant to the conversation?

I just tried to give someone a source to analyze clickbank products based on refund rates etc...and got my wrist slapped.

It's offensive. I hate authoritarian behavior...that's one of the reasons why I'm a goddamn entrepreneur. lol!

What exactly are they afraid of? (rhetorical question)

ok...vent over. :-)
#anticompetitive #forums #vent
  • Profile picture of the author andrew_writes
    Originally Posted by SuzanneR View Post

    First let me say that I'm becoming more appreciative of the Warrior Forum by the day when I see some of the tight-cheeked IM forums out there. haha!

    I've just run into my second affiliate-selling forum where if you say "boo" you're considered a spammer.

    Jesus H. Christ already!

    I understand having to post x amount of posts before carrying any kind of weight...and a few other precautionary things to stop spammers from polluting the forum.

    But not allowing people to include links in signatures (while having a feature that allows you to do it)?

    Not allowing anyone to post links of any kind in your posts--even when they are 100% relevant to the conversation?

    I just tried to give someone a source to analyze clickbank products based on refund rates etc...and got my wrist slapped.

    It's offensive. I hate authoritarian behavior...that's one of the reasons why I'm a goddamn entrepreneur. lol!

    What exactly are they afraid of? (rhetorical question)

    ok...vent over. :-)
    I feel your pain. Been there with a couple of forums when I first started as well as associatedcontent when I first started and rewrote some plr.
    Signature
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1354215].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author SuzanneR
    I would have to imagine it hurts their business. One of those sites is not terribly active...and the one I just came from probably left a bad taste in people's mouths in the way they dealt with me. They come across like bat-wielding cops. lol!
    Signature

    ~Suzanne Ryan


    If you want professional pre-written email copy that sells affiliate products better and faster than canned autoresponders...then click here.

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1354334].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Sometimes it's just easier to say "no links" than to get into battles over "how come his link is okay but mine is not?"
      Signature

      Dan's content is irregularly read by handfuls of people. Join the elite few by reading his blog: dcrBlogs.com, following him on Twitter: dcrTweets.com or reading his fiction: dcrWrites.com but NOT by Clicking Here!

      Dan also writes content for hire, but you can't afford him anyway.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1354384].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Suzanne,
        It's offensive. I hate authoritarian behavior...
        You mean... rules?

        If someone were stepping into your space and forcing you to do something you didn't want, I'd be right there on your side, most of the time. But when you step into someone else's space, you play by their rules. The only absolute right you have in someone else's space is the right to leave unmolested if you choose.

        That's how - and why - society works.

        Every forum has rules. The fact that they don't suit your preferences does not make them bad. Just a bad fit.


        Paul
        Signature
        .
        Stop by Paul's Pub - my little hangout on Facebook.

        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1354417].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author SuzanneR
          Paul--I appreciate what you're trying to say. But rules aren't always neutral like that.
          There are rules...and then there are rules with an agenda.


          It's pretty obvious (as someone who browsed there) that they are trying to hoard business for themselves--and they consider everyone else a threat. A forum with that type of flavor is bound to fail. From a business standpoint I don't get it. The whole idea of a forum is free exchange of ideas (as long as it's relevant to what the forum is about)

          In any case, I didn't bother arguing with them. I'll never go back. And the person who was looking for advice really lost out because I had a resource that's exactly what he's looking for.
          Signature

          ~Suzanne Ryan


          If you want professional pre-written email copy that sells affiliate products better and faster than canned autoresponders...then click here.

          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1354494].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    One reason why I started my own forum .... I can share and help all I want and no mods can tell me I can't..

    James
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1354408].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author SuzanneR
      Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

      One reason why I started my own forum .... I can share and help all I want and no mods can tell me I can't..

      James
      that's an idea I might consider in the future. I've always wondered how much of a headache it is though.

      Most forums I've been on (including here) would have no problem with the posts I made.

      From a forum owner standpoint, however, I'm wondering what it would take before I got all uptight about others posting links.
      Signature

      ~Suzanne Ryan


      If you want professional pre-written email copy that sells affiliate products better and faster than canned autoresponders...then click here.

      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1354513].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by SuzanneR View Post

        that's an idea I might consider in the future. I've always wondered how much of a headache it is though.

        Most forums I've been on (including here) would have no problem with the posts I made.

        From a forum owner standpoint, however, I'm wondering what it would take before I got all uptight about others posting links.
        I have not had a problem at all .. No my forum is not that large and that is ok because I do have some great members on it and it is 100% ad free.

        As far as running one, it can be hard and it can be fun.. Depends upon how you look at it but also depends upon how large it is. The larger it is the more work involved ..

        James
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1354538].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author SuzanneR
          good to know. Something to definitely think about. thanks.
          Signature

          ~Suzanne Ryan


          If you want professional pre-written email copy that sells affiliate products better and faster than canned autoresponders...then click here.

          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1354595].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
            Suzanne,
            There are rules...and then there are rules with an agenda.
            All rules are the result of an agenda.

            All of them. Every time. No exceptions.

            As soon as you understand and accept that, you'll find that it bothers you a whole lot less. You just choose where and with whom to spend your time. You lose the desire to feel victimized by or to complain about how other people do things in their own space.


            Paul
            Signature
            .
            Stop by Paul's Pub - my little hangout on Facebook.

            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1354634].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    every forum I have owned or run, I never had rules!

    "Just one guide, treat others as you want to be treated."

    when treated with respect and trust, the vast majority of people, even PITAs seem to change their evil ways (some anyway). One reason I like this forum is the admin is next to invisible and the expectation of acceptable behavior is largely respected. I think I have had a post or two deleted. I have no idea why, but I trust the admins here that that post might have contained something that might have offended another that I was unaware of. (or started a row, as I can be untactful sometimes... my tact valve is broke!)

    As the admins here trust the members, so I trust the admins. They are more knowledgeable about this forum's idiosyncrasies that I am. I never complained or even mentioned a deletion (except here to make a point.) Trust, there is no substitute and the trust with this forum's admins was very quickly achieved with me, and I am usually very skeptical.

    My hat (the grey one) is off to the admins here. They do a GREAT job compared to most places. They deserve notice and our thanks.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1354648].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author SuzanneR
      Originally Posted by DogScout View Post


      My hat (the grey one) is off to the admins here. They do a GREAT job compared to most places. They deserve notice and our thanks.
      hear hear! I guess I got spoiled. lol!

      Loved your post. Really resonated. My sentiments exactly. :-)
      Signature

      ~Suzanne Ryan


      If you want professional pre-written email copy that sells affiliate products better and faster than canned autoresponders...then click here.

      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1354736].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author David Mcalorum
    Yea, agreed other forums suck. This is the best IM forum in the WORLD!
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1354746].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
    Banned
    Yes ... this forum is great but perhaps another forum owner doesn't want to deal with spam and exert energy into preventing it and moderating. Even if, as you say, they want all the action, since they are the forum owner, that is certainly their perogative.

    I had a forum and there were rules. You could post links, but there definitely were rules and some didn't like them. I told them they were free not to participate, if they found the rules too overbearing.

    I found running a forum to be a big pain in the a** and let the domain expire and deleted it.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1355006].message }}

Trending Topics