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Paul Myers 8th November 2009 09:00 PM

What to do if you're desperate
We've been getting a lot of threads here lately from people talking about tough times. Clearly, some are for real. Others seem a bit... iffy. One thing we can be sure of is that having a bunch of these scattered through the database isn't the best way to help anyone.

So, here's the suggestion: Pretend this is a request from someone who's in a tight spot, and needs to figure out how to make some money quick. We don't know if they're on the verge of getting kicked out into the street tomorrow, or if they've got a couple of months to get something going.

Give your best suggestions, starting off with the required skills and the timeline you're addressing. Let's get one thread with a ton of ways for people to handle a tough spot.

Then, when the threads come up, we can point them here. The folks who need advice get it - a lot of it in one place - and you don't have to re-type your answers every time.

Who wants to start it off?


Edited to add: AlexCN has created a handy index that you may find helpful in getting to a useful answer more quickly. You can find that here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post9002337

Kevin_Hutto 8th November 2009 09:06 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
Fastest way to make some quick money -- without knowing the person's skills -- is to go to craigslist closest to their area and search the gigs. Many times these are cash type jobs that can be done quickly and locally.

Lisa Gergets 8th November 2009 09:10 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
An immediate form of income, and the way I started my IM career, is to simply offer services. What are you good at?

Writing=articles, ebooks, autoresponder series, etc.
Research=are you great at sniffing out good niches? This was the first service I offered, and I'm still doing it!
Software=if you have software to submit links, RSS feeds or articles to various sites, offer that as a service.

Take a look around the WSO's and the WF Classifieds...find services others are offering and offer them if it is something you have the capacity to perform.

It's money directly into your Paypal account and if you do a great job, you'll have MANY repeat customers.

P.S. It's my personal opinion that EVERYONE who receives payment via Paypal should have a Paypal Business Debit Card. It takes days to transfer money from your Paypal account to your bank account where you can access it. When you have the Debit Card, every sale you make is IMMEDIATELY accessible, as long as it's not an echeck (I don't accept those at all anyways.) Having the Debit Card can allow you to have funds immediately available upon making a sale, and when you're desperate, that's priceless.

Tina Golden 8th November 2009 09:11 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
If someone is really desperate and down to the wire, you cannot rely on the internet to pay off fast enough to get you out of your jam. Get yourself to any agencies you can find locally that will help you pay your rent, keep the electricty on or put food on the table. There is the Salvation Army, food banks, city human service departments and the like to help with emergency situations.

Sell anything you don't absolutely need in a yard sale or on eBay. Do odd jobs around town or work overtime if you have a job and it's available. This could help give you some breathing room.

If you aren't down to the wire yet but know you need to make money fairly quickly, selling some sort of service is probably the fastest way to do it. Think about what skills you have to offer - could be writing, could be the grunt work like putting up links, blog commenting, creating graphics...whatever you can do, you can bet someone will be willing to pay you to do it for them.

While you're doing that to keep money coming in now, find a business model you like and start pegging away at it until it becomes a big enough income stream. This could be anything really - it doesn't matter, as long as you have some income coming in already.


TheRichJerksNet 8th November 2009 09:11 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
Great Post Paul... I will contribute the following...

If you are just starting out and you do not know what to do and your funds are very low or even nothing, then you can start with the below plan and build on it from there.

Let's say I just started this great blog and now I need traffic so before I go give my great content away for free to some over glorified adsense article directory I think I will try the following...

You can get hosting for a few dollars from Web Hosting, Reseller Hosting, and Dedicated Servers - Website Hosting w/ cPanel - HostGator and get a domain name for less than $10 at Namecheap.com - Cheap domain name registration, renewal and transfers - Free SSL Certificates - Web Hosting - Free URL Forwarding, e-mail forwarding and DNS services are included with our cheap domain names registration service

If you have no money at all, then you certainly can start a free blog at http://www.blogspot.com

- Bookmark my new blog:
Digg - The Latest News Headlines, Videos and Images
Clipmarks - What are you finding on the web?
Home | Propeller
Faves: Sites you'll love, from people like you
Mister Wong | Social Bookmarking Tool (twitter function built in)

* Those above will get you indexed in google with no
problem, digg and clipmarks can have you
indexed in 10 minutes.

- Create 3 new articles similar to my blog content and turn them into PDF with links to my blog and upload it to sites such as:
Upload & Share PowerPoint presentations and documents
Docstoc ? Documents, Templates, Forms, Ebooks, Papers & Presentations

* fully fill out the profile and since I posted 3
documents there is also an auto poster for twitter
and facebook on Scribd - so I will tweet and post to facebook.

- Locate my Rss Feeds on the bookmarking sites, my blog and the upload sites and post them to Rss Directories:
RSS Submissions

55 Active RSS Directories to Help Promote Your RSS Feeds!

Blog And RSS Feed Submission: Best RSS Directories Where To Submit Your Blog Feed Part 1

TopRank Best List of RSS Blog Directories to Submit Your Blog and Feed - Online Marketing Blog

* many resources on that site above that can help.

This would be a good start to get your content indexed before you even submit to any directory and notice since you are just starting out, none of this cost any money, its free advertising.


samstephens 8th November 2009 09:15 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
I'm sure there's be a lot of posts about how to make extra money, so I'm posting something different, and something that I believe should be done straight away:

Cut your costs.

If your incoming money isn't matching (or greater than) your outgoing money, there are two things to do: increase your incoming, but also decrease your outgoing.

Write out a list of the costs that you need to live:

- Rent/mortgage
- Food
- Transport

Food can be greatly decreased by stopping buying so many snacks (that's how our grocery bill creeps up), and instead start buying stuff that will last a long time - ie. making a huge pot of pasta and sause that'll last three or four days. Sure, not the most nutricious, but that's another issue altogether.

Stop buying alcohol, and if you can, cut down on cigarettes as much as posisble (I'm not a smoker, and so I can only assume that's probably hard work for most people, but I'm also assuming it's better than being homeless).

Rent/Mortgage - talk to your bank or realestate, and see if there is something you can work out. Sometimes there is, and sometimes you can work on payment plans.

Transport - try and walk as much as you can, or ride a bike. Sure cuts down on those fuel bills. Too far? A bus? Or at least try and minimise your driving as much as possible.

Entertainment - this is usually a huge cost, and so have a think about free things you can do around your area.

Drop your mobile phone to a smaller plan, or don't renew your credit if you're on prepay. You can do without outgoing calls for awhile.

Disconnect things you don't need, such as pay TV.

This will be different for everyone's situation, but if you sit down and right out a list of all of your monthly bills, then break it down into weekly costs, then you can see what you're spending each week and what on.

From there you can then knock down the bigger ones, and knock out some of the non-nessessities.

Lastly - fast way to make some money? Get out there and do some work - mow lawns for friends and family, you may even get some referals for other people.

Hit the local shopping centres, and see if you can pack shelves at night, or do some shift work at local factories.

Often you can find unskilled labour - sure it doesn't pay great, but it's better than nothing, right?

We'd all love to make it big on the internet, saving us by the skin of our teeth, and sure do that at night time, but if I was in serious financial trouble, I'd be knocking on so many doors begging for work that my knuckles would bleed.

Hope this helps!


Jeremy Kelsall 8th November 2009 09:19 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
Find something that someone else is doing with alot of success and then do it for 10% less.

Ron Douglas 8th November 2009 09:33 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
1) Look at the Clickbank new products section on CBEngine.com for all the different categories.

2) Make a list of the site owners with contact details.

3) Reach out to them all and make an offer to write X number of promotional articles that their affiliates can use. Also offer to contact X number of potential affiliates to find guest blogging and other content syndication opportunities for them.

Be sure to send them each a personalized message one by one.

JohnB23 8th November 2009 09:44 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
The quickest way I know of to make money is to cut your expenses.

-Esp entertainment and buying "stuff" in a real brick and mortar store. Even if you don't think you can find it cheaper online, look any way.

Even stuff like bubble wrap, it costs 3x as much at a store 10 minutes from my house, than if I bought it online (from ebay), even with shipping. Small expenses add up, so be sure to research everything.

No reason at all to pay full retail for anything. Esp Dvd's or any movies. I don't believe in starving yourself, or taking extreme measures if you're desperate (like no tv or entertainment for 3 months).

-Write down what you spend everyday and where it goes. You'll be shocked.

IMRookie1 8th November 2009 09:53 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
1. Sell stuff on a garage sale or on Ebay.
2. Get a job nobody wants to do. (This is just temporary until you get back on track)
3. Offer your services. There are a lot of marketers that pay for time-consuming tasks such as social bookmarking, link building, etc...

Dan C. Rinnert 8th November 2009 10:46 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
The first thing you need to do is create a plan.

Start by figuring out your budget. How much do you currently make? How much do you currently spend? Where can you reduce or eliminate expenses?

Too often, people just say they "need more money" but without a budget, they don't have a plan for the money they do get in. So, any extra money may not go to where it gives them the best bang for the buck. By having a budget set up, you can better figure out where to spend any extra income you get. And, when starting out online, for most people, any income they get is going to be spotty at best. So, figuring out where to utilize that money--whether it is $20 or $200--is very important. You want to make sure you use that money where it will help you the most.

Once you have a budget, then you can develop a plan. This is where you'll figure out how much more money you need to make and how much more money you want to make. Do you need $50 more per week? $500? Do you need another $5000 a month? How much is long term? How much do you need in the short term? Once you've determined your needs, then you can start a plan of attack.

Your plan may be finding work locally, providing services online, selling stuff on eBay, etc.--the things others have mentioned. And you have to break down your plan into short term and long term objectives. You might take a job temporarily at a fast food joint to help until you can get your online business going, for example.

Hand-in-hand with your plan is a daily schedule. If you want to make money at IM, you are going to have to work at it on a regular basis. You can't just do stuff here and there. That will just lead to spotty results and you probably won't be able to earn a decent income with intermittent efforts. So, create a schedule that works around your regular job (if you have one), your temporary job (if you have one), and whatever else may be going on in your life (taking kids to soccer practice, for example). Make sure you create time to work on your Internet marketing business on a regular basis. Daily, if possible. If not, then make it as many times a week as you can. If you can only do it on weekends, then plan around that too. Bear in mind that software like WordPress allows you to schedule posts, so you create posts on weekends and schedule them to appear throughout the week so that your blog is updated daily. If you are blogging, of course. That's just one example. Some article directories let you schedule things to a degree, so take advantage of that where possible, etc. There are workarounds for many things, so don't let stumbling blocks steer you off-course.

Consistency is what you really need to achieve results. So, create a plan and a schedule that will allow you to do that. Treat your IM efforts as a business not a hobby.

Once you have your plan and your schedule, you're going to have to figure out what you're going to do when you're sitting at your computer ready to do your Internet marketing work.

So, the first thing you'll need to do is find a niche. You'll want to choose a niche where there are hungry buyers to make it easier on yourself to sell something. You might choose multiple niches as well, but just stick with one thing until you get it going. You should diversify, but don't do it so quickly that none of your "diversifications" ever gets off the ground! There are plenty of threads around here for choosing niches, so I won't get into that here.

Once you have a niche, then you have to find a product. You have several options. You could be an affiliate for an existing product. Look at places like ClickBank, Commission Junction, PayDotCom, LinkShare, ShareASale, etc. for products you may be able to promote as an affiliate. Another option is to create your own product and sell it. Another option is to purchase a product with Master Resale Rights or Resale Rights and sell it. Yet another option, if it is a physical product you are looking at, is to become a reseller for that product. This can be expensive and is not going to be a practical option if you are desperate. In that case, you'll want to look at dropshipping, where the manufacturer or seller will dropship a product for you so that you don't have to stock anything and you only pay for the product when you have a sale. So, there are lots of options. In most cases, however, going with a digital product is going to be the most effective for the desperate Internet marketer that's just starting out.

After you have a niche and a product to promote or sell, then you need to promote it. You may be able to do this simply through article marketing and social networking, but it will be highly advantageous, especially for long term growth, if you create your own website. The ideal is to have your own domain name and hosting. If you cannot afford that, at least find a way to get $10 to register your own domain name. Then, you can start at a service like Blogger for free and point your domain name to it. That way, any marketing you do can utilize your domain name rather than a Blogger Blogspot URL. Then, when you can afford hosting, you can find a way to move your content to your own hosted blog and retain your incoming links.

The next thing is going to be payments. If you are an affiliate, you don't need to worry about this but if you are selling your own product, you will need to have a way for people to pay you. For most new Internet marketers, this will probably mean something like PayPal. If you have a digital product, you can sell through ClickBank, and then they'll provide you with payment links and such. The disadvantage here is that you'll need to come up with $49.95 to open your ClickBank account as a vendor, which is $49.95 you may not have! so, PayPal becomes a more attractive option here. You might also consider 2Checkout and various other payment services.

There's a lot to do, and it's easy to got confused or distracted and head off in different directions, which usually results in not succeeding in Internet marketing. That's why it is important to develop a plan and stick with it. You can keep reading things, but when scheduling your computer time, keep your "research" time and your "work" time separate. You don't want "research" (i.e., reading forums, reading eBooks, hanging out on Facebook, etc.) to cut into or reduce your "work" time. You have to work at Internet marketing to make it, um, work. So, don't allow distractions to throw you off-course. Develop a schedule and stick to it. If it helps, find a picture of some mean looking guy and put it next to your computer or use it as your desktop background and pretend that's your boss looking over your shoulder every time you're at the computer. Do whatever it takes to do the actual work of Internet marketing.

Again, consistency is very important! As is just getting it done! A half-finished project will never make you money if it just sits on your hard drive and you never go anywhere with it.

And, again, remember that Internet marketing will not likely be a short term fix. Short term Internet marketing successes are few and far between. Most success in Internet marketing comes from the long term. So, when you are in a bind, realize that, in all likelihood, Internet marketing is not going to help you. If you're only interest in Internet marketing is getting X amount of dollars by such and such a date so that you can get back to your "regular" life after that, Internet marketing is probably not for you. If you realize that Internet marketing is a business, if you are looking at Internet marketing as a long term solution to supplement or replace a current (or lost) income, then realize that you will need to find a temporary solution while you work at building your business.

On the other hand, if you have existing skills that can be offered online (such as writing, researching and other things people have mentioned in this thread), then you may be able to get yourself out of a bind by offering such services. But, if you don't possess any such skills, then you are not likely to be able to use Internet marketing as a short term fix.

joshril 8th November 2009 11:16 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
As mentioned here, offering services is going to be the fastest way to make cash. Trying to make money as an affiliate is typically not going to be practical if you're in a bind because most payout several weeks after you've made sales.

The best plan of action is to determine what your skill-set is...

Writing, designing, marketing, etc.

Sell that service...

You can sell here by scraping up $20 to start a WSO, or on other webmaster/make money type business forums. You can also offer services to offline business. This is probably going to the most lucrative as you can normally get a much higher price for your talent offline.

Once you start having some cash rolling in, you can scale the business and begin to work on some passive forms of online money like promoting products as an affiliate, product creation, etc.

I know this is a generic business model, but it makes sense.

One thing I will add...

In many cases I think getting a job when you're in a crunch is a bad play. Let's say you get a job that pays $10 per hour. You work 40 hours your first week, so you've grossed $400. After taxes are deducted, this amount will be even less.

Plus, in many cases, it may be another week or two before you even see that paycheck... Now, you may be 3 weeks out before you get paid. This is not going to work for someone in need of quick cash...

If someone actually spent those same 40 hours offering a service either online or to offline business owners, I'd put my money on them making more than $400. Now, I'm not talking about cruising Warrior Forum for 30 hours and working 10... I'm talking actually working, selling, writing, creating, consulting... whatever... for 40 hours. And, you'll get paid immediately, and in many cases, get all or a portion upfront.

Now, for the people that won't actually work without being told what to do(and there are plenty out there), getting a job might make sense. But, for those that are truly desperate and willing to put in the effort to change their circumstances, getting a temporary job is the worst thing that can be done, in my opinion.

OMI 9th November 2009 12:43 AM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
Offering local services offline will help, too. Christmas is coming up right? Put up some signs in your local neighborhood or grocery store bulletin board that you will hang Christmas Lights on homes. The going rate in my neighborhood starts at $200 and goes up depending on the amount of work. You may opt to charge by the hour, but people may just want a flat rate.

Hit the streets...go door to door to help get the word out. Some people may want you to start right away or maybe over the new few weekends. Print out some business cards or flyers (if you can) and hand them out to help spread the word. Drop them in the empty shopping carts left out in the parking lots.

Tip: Tell them that you'll give them a "package deal" to hang them up and then also take them down after Christmas is over.

Use a calandar/appointment book so you can jot down addresses and schedules so you won't miss any clients or times.

Hanging lights is pretty easy if you aren't afraid of heights and ladders. If you don't like that, you can also shovel snow or scrape car windows.

Ken Strong 9th November 2009 01:09 AM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
This could be an All-In-One Thread.

Emily Meeks 9th November 2009 03:11 AM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
I've been in this situation. I'm still picking up the pieces, but I've been pulling it together.

I got as angry as f***ing possible, but put it to good use. I channeled all that energy into working out. Exercise really does help you relieve stress, and help you sleep better. Once I worked out I could calm down and focus. I also lost some weight as a bonus.

Once I worked through the negativity, I brainstormed again. I was back to the drawing board - I was already familiar with essentially zero-budget marketing that gave me pure profit. I'd abandoned it in the hopes of getting a membership site going, but once my situation struck, I had to scrap it and draw another plan.

I'm currently ghostwriting. I've always loved writing and am constantly strengthening my skills. Since I've started I've learned how to become a better writer, have learned about a number of subjects, built relationships and earned hundreds so far. Nothing to retire off of, but it's a considerable supplement to a crappy retail job I also have.

I'm also working on other zero-budget stuff that doesn't involve ghostwriting. I don't expect instant moneys, but I expect it to build substantially over time.

Moral of the story: Burn off excess energy, calm down, get organized, get focused. Master these four things and go from there.

John Rogers 9th November 2009 09:20 AM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
Change your mindset.

Thinking about lack will only perpetuate lack.

Identify one thing that would immediately improve your current situation.

Form a clear mental image of that thing in your mind. If you experience difficulty forming that image, keep trying. Continue to perfect the image in your mind until it is very detailed and clear to the point that when you recall the image it immediately appears in your mind in a perfect state.

Imagine how it will feel when you have the subject of the image in physical form.

Develop an awareness for opportunities that may lead you to the attainment of that one thing you desire. When an opportunity presents itself, take action immediately.

Develop an attitude of gratitude for what you already have. And when you receive something, be thankful for it.

When you attain that one thing you desire, pick a new thing that will improve your current situation.

If you have difficulty believing you can do this, start with something small. For example, a particular book, a five dollar bill, a can of tuna, anything. Focus on that one thing until you attain it to prove to yourself the process works, then move on to something bigger.

There is a wealth of information on this topic, and a number of "systems" for using the process.

One book that many have found easy to understand and implement is The Science of Getting Rich by Wallace Wattles.


G Leg 9th November 2009 08:55 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
Hi Paul,

I'll suggest 2, because I've used both.

Offline. One time years ago I spent the last buck I had for a room in Richmond Va. I got the room and I was staring at the floor (long before the internet, no computer to stare at) wondering and plotting what to do next.

A guy knocked at the door and I'll never forget it, he looked just like Woodie Guthrie. He says in a W Virginia mountain drawl, "you wanna go make some money?" I said sure let's go...

We go out to his car, he has a ladder tied to the top and a rake and he says were going to the rich part of town and rake leaves. So off we go, I stand in the yard holding the ladder and rake, he knocks on the door and does his polite looking for work routine and we get a job.

So we clean the gutters and rake the yard, with one under our belts the rest was easy. All we had to do is point to the yard we just did and the next house didn't want a messy yard and said, "sure go ahead." I swear by the end of the day I had plenty of money to see me through a couple of days to apply for some real jobs and went on from there.

Online... Depends on your expertise at the computer and IM. If you're just starting I would simply see what prices are for stuff on eBay and try to source a local place to get it cheaper and resell on eBay. Or just start selling what's in the basement, garage, closet, under your bed.


jagsenghera 9th November 2009 09:04 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
The fastest way as I see it is to get an ebook written, find a JV with a list and online marketing experience to sell the product for you.

George Wright 9th November 2009 09:17 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
This is a cut and paste from another post of mine. It is very similar to my stock answer for this OP Qustion.

Here is what I would do.

First I'd build "momentum." I can work mad, I can work sad and I can work glad but I can't work hungry so first things first.

I'd walk about two blocks to a business area and walk into the first business and say to the owner, "I'll build you a website for $300." If he said no I'd say, "How about $200?" If he said no I'd say, "How about $100." By now we would both be laughing and before I left I'd have some money in my pocket.

Now off to Denny's, Norms or IHop for a BIG breakfast and a pot of coffee.

From there I'd walk into every business and repeat what I did this morning. The only difference would be that I wouldn't settle for less than $300 with half down and half whenever.

At lunch time I'd go to a mom and pop restaurant and eat a nice lunch and leave a BIG tip in plain view on the table as I asked to speak to the owner. The owner would come over and I'd tell him. "Your food is so good I want to give your restaurant a place of honor on my restaurant guide on the Internet. I'd walk out with that deposit and spend the rest of the day selling til dinner time.

I'd be so far away from home by now I would pay to ride the bus home. Stopping off at the local market I'd buy some beer and salty snacks and stay up all night building websites.

In a couple of days I'd return to all the people I sold to and collect the rest of my money.

Now I would write a WSO on "How To Pull Money Out Of Thin Air" Outlining how I started selling to offline businesses and make another quick thousand or two.

Oh wait. That's not what I "would do." That's what I did. :) Rinse & Repeat.

George Wright

seasoned 12th November 2009 04:08 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
Gee, I didn't know how to really put it down, but everything else here is as general, that I guess I will try to boil it down....

1. Get a good positive attitude.
2. Make a budget
3. Cut back.
4. Find a need. Hopefully one that uses your skills. The more skills it uses, the more bargaining power you have, and the higher the price can be.
5. Try to sell it at a reasonable price.
6. Try not to take no for an answer, but be gentle but confident.
7. Keep/track/use contacts.

I WILL add a few things though.

1. Try to find services/products CLOSE to what you will offer. If you can't find ANY, try to figure out if there are problems with it. SOMETIMES, the lack of competitors is NOT good.
2. Figure out the common features and try to standardize a price. Almost like a "COMP" in realestate appraisal.
3. If you think the price is too low, try to add value that has a low cost but high value.
4. Figure out your MINIMUM price, and try to make some amount over that.
5. Try to anticipate problems/concerns, and have a good counter argument.
6. Also, it may have been said, but keep a TODO list that can hide things you have done. That has been ONE of my problems.
7. Keep a list of ideas. Yet another thing I have slipped up on.
8. Always keep 6 and 7 in mind!


Allen Graves 12th November 2009 04:12 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
Call your creditors!

If you get them on the phone and explain your situation, chances are really good that they will reduce your monthly payments tremendously. They'd rather get a little money from you than none at all.

My brother in Tennessee did this and cut over $1,000 a month off his monthly bills. And all he did was get on the phone and ask...it cost him nothing.

Allen Graves

bmspaul 12th November 2009 04:15 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
The answers are right under your nose. All the information you need, step by step, is in this forum.

That's how I did it 3 years ago - You Can Too!

Good Luck

seasoned 12th November 2009 05:09 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate

Originally Posted by Allen Graves (Post 1378671)
Call your creditors!

If you get them on the phone and explain your situation, chances are really good that they will reduce your monthly payments tremendously. They'd rather get a little money from you than none at all.

My brother in Tennessee did this and cut over $1,000 a month off his monthly bills. And all he did was get on the phone and ask...it cost him nothing.

Allen Graves

Well, it didn't work the LAST time I did it, but you can ALSO usually ask them for a lower rate. They USED to ALWAYS do it for me. Sadly, now they don't. The last time I asked, they talked me into a home loan. My debt IS, in 9 months, about $50K+ LOWER, average interest rate is about 5.8% TOTAL. and I have an extra $30K or so in my bank account. That is after doubling some investments.


Jill Carpenter 12th November 2009 06:45 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate

Originally Posted by KenStrong (Post 1366143)
This could be an All-In-One Thread.

Your hair is an all in one thread. :D

Ok, I did another thread on this which I'll include here:


But I will add a story of if I were desperate as I have been and know it happens and how it feels.

Step 1. Relax, and get my head together. Remind myself it is not the end of the world and find someone with greater challenges than myself so I am reminded of just how good I still have it. Call a good friend and get it all out. Scream, cry, just get any confusion and overwhelming emotion out of my system.

Step 2. I am calm now, and now will have a sit down with myself, and review what I did to get myself in the situation I am in. The last thing I want to do is repeat what just got me where I am. My new plan must include steps that will prevent the situation from happening again.

Step 3. Assess if the basic necessities are there. Roof over my head, a hot shower, and some food. Figure out for how long. If I were in a position where I could not stay where I was I would find a friend to take me in. I would ask to sleep on a floor if I had to. I would just get these basic necessities figured out for at least a month. It will give me more than ample time to get it together.

Step 4. I will get my resume together, and I will apply for every opportunity that fits it. I have worked as a bartender and server and there is always opportunity for those things. I have contacts from the past who can also assist in giving me some part time or full time work, so I will call them as well and get scoops on what is going on and where I should go. Also, cash tips can be had within days. I will offer to cover for anyone who needs a day off, and I will work as much as possible.

Step 5. The job hunt thing will likely only take an hour or 2 a day, unless I have an interview lined up. So, let's say I did not find a job. Well, that spare time would be used to see what services online I could offer. I am not going to go to craigslist and respond to "type from home" or what not as those tend to lead me to a sales page.

I know better than to bother. I might look on craigs for server work, but not for online opportunities. LOL, heck no.

What I will do is put up a page online that showcases what services I want to offer and what my skills are - along with some rates. I will need some references and examples of my work, so for me it would be doing online video, audio voice overs, video editing, and I'm not fond of it but I could write articles, etc.

So, let's pretend I don't have enough money to buy video editing software, and the software I had got wiped out. Well, I would download the free camtasia for mac as there is no watermark for the month trial (hehe, something I just found out) and I would make a sample video, and load that up to youtube. I would join the WF and I would write in my signature that I could make video tutorials for your projects, and pm me for a sample. I would spend time trying to be helpful to others, and if I came across someone looking to have some video done I would send them a kindly pm. I would be sure to introduce myself, an link to my samples.

Let's pretend I know nothing about video - because that is probably a good majority here. I have no talents with that and I need to rely on writing articles which I hate, but I need to eat. Amazing, when you are truly desperate that fire starts to burn hot under your ass.

I am going to offer to write some FREE articles here - BUT I am going to offer them to people who will send along an actual review and look to be respectable members on the forum. I am going for high end references so I can get reviews that have some clout.

Hey, what ever service I am going to provide, it will be the same amount of love that goes into it whether it is for joe schmoe or Allen Says. Which testimonial will provide me with a better chance to succeed? So, I will research and find the best people to give my service to and offer it for free.

So, I will take my reviews and add them to the free site I created with the services I am offering and I will then change my signature and offer at a silly price to get some funds. I will get work. There are cheap ass *******s like myself who will buy that cheap work, LOL, so I know I can hook in enough to get some work and some basic funds to get a website of my own.

Anyway, once I have a site I am on my way up the ladder. I can then add a classified here and some other places on the web and move onward and upward.

If I don't know how to do something, I will google it until my fingers bleed. Don't know how to make an html link? Google "how do I make an html link" Need some kind of product to sell? Google for free plr and use the materials to figure out a product.

Now, lets say in this scenario I needed 10g by tomorrow. Well, that ain't gonna happen realistically. I am screwed and what ever it was I best duck under the covers and file for bankruptcy or call a rich uncle.

billspaced 20th November 2009 03:24 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
Act like any sane business -- cut out unnecessary expenses and then focus on one thing to earn revenue.

Unnecessary expenses might be cable TV, NetFlix, magazine subscriptions, Starbucks, etc.

They're time wasters and take away from developing your business anyway. Plus, they're depressing...

Necessary business expenses: Autoresponder, own domain, web host. Get a PayPal account and start selling! There are a ton of PLR products out there, many for free. Rip one up, make it better, tailor it to your niche.

Be persistent, sign up to the War Room, and learn everything you can. Stay positive and you'll see success.

Don't chase every online offer you get. Pick a mentor or two and follow them, short of stalking them! The OP here is a great person to start with :)

Taylor French 20th November 2009 05:57 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate

Originally Posted by Mr. Goof Off (Post 1409267)
I am not gonna give a method even though I have a couple. Why not? Because there will be plenty of methods by the time this is over and done with. I will say persistence is a funny thing. One seems to get better at something when they are serious about it.

Ice-T got a $500,000 check just by telling record execs he had a demo and he didn't even have a demo to give them(nor a music group)!

Sohail Khan- He just told a corporation that he had a video he didn't even make yet!

If you act to part and be persistent someone will fall in line out of "thin air". It is a numbers game.

Pick any method up here and JUST DO IT!

Legend has it that Bill Gates told IBM he had an operating system for their computer when he didn't. I hear he was a pretty good BSer. :)

JamesPenn 20th November 2009 06:38 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
I've copied and pasted this post from another thread that I responded to.

This plan definitely isn't for emergency cash. With some marketing experience and skills then this plan could be up and running in 2-3 weeks (shorter if you really dedicate some hours to it) and it could be producing profit within less than a month.

And it can produce a lot of profit, and it can be scaled up and turned into a real business with growing monthly profits.

If you need to raise a significant amount of money in 2-6 months, then this is an ideal plan.

Process 1:
Pick a Market

I know what you're thinking... "BOOOOORING".

I know, I know. Every step-by-step guide seems to start with picking a market. But it's VERY important.

I'm gonna make things a lot easier for you though. Just choose one of the markets below...

Health and Beauty
Real Estate
Home Based Business
Self Improvement

All of those have been proven to be profitable. Competetive? Yes... but still profitable.

The main thing you need to identify when choosing your market is... "Is money already being spent on products and services in this market?"

If yes, then you likely have a winner.

If you still need help with picking a market then do some more research on Google.

Process 2:
Lead Generation Product Creation

Now it's time to create a free report, audio or video that we give away in exchange for a name and email address.

To choose a topic on which you want to write your report about, consider the major problems your market has.

If you've chosen the health and fitness market then a large proportion want to lose weight.

If it's the dating market then a large proportion want to learn how to find, hook up with and keep their ideal partner.

Create a quality product that people would be happy to pay money for.

Process 3:
Squeeze Page Creation

Create a squeeze page with one primary focus... to get people to enter their name and email address and to download your free report.

That's all for this step. Again, for more help Google it or search this forum.

Process 4:
Membership Site Creation

Once a visitor has opted in to our list, we want to immediately present them with an offer for our $15-$30 membership site. At this price range it's a fairly easy sell without having to have a strong existing relationship with our prospects.

Plus, it's really easy to create a membership site like this and provide value. At $20, it would be sufficient to create 4 premium articles about 1500-2000 words per month. Convert them into PDFs and deliver them to members. Add some interactivity to improve retention such as a question form and then compile all questions into a PDF and answer them at the end of each month. Add additional value by providing videos, audios and reports from other marketers - or create them yourself.

Create your salesletter for your membership using all the traditional sales page tactics.

Process 5:
Creating Your High Value Offer

Now, this is where the real money is. Selling physical products at $200 plus is where most of our profit will come from.

Plus, creating high value products isn't as hard as you think... if you're comfortable talking or being in front of a camera. I'm not, but there are plenty of workarounds to this.

When creating your high value offer, structure it like a step by step crash course. For example, how to do _________ in x number of days. And then the product takes on the form of a video product detailing exactly what you have to do on each day to achieve the desired outcome. Each video should last about one hour and that will be one DVD.

A typical structure for a high value physical product is to have 6 DVDs and then 2 Bonus DVDs.

Here's an example of a product that you could create in the weight loss market and sell for $200 plus...

Weight Loss Market:

How To Lose 15lbs Every 30 Days
DVD 1: Why Being Overweight Is Killing You
DVD 2: How To Get The Motivation To Eliminate Your Fat
DVD3: Week 1: Your Daily Exercises And Diet Plan
DVD4: Week 2: Your Daily Exercises And Diet Plan
DVD5: Week 3: Your Daily Exercises And Diet Plan
DVD6: Week 4: Your Daily Exercises And Diet Plan
Bonus DVD 1: How To Make Sure Your Fat Stays Off... For Good
Bonus DVD 2: Interview With A Weight Loss Expert – Dr. Joe Bloggs

Here are some tips for creating your high value offer:

1) Transcribe your DVDs and audios to add extra value to your offering. Some people like to learn by listening or watching, but others like to learn through reading.

2) Include some digital products with your high value offer that are delivered instantly to your customers. Customers want instant gratification so providing some instantly delivered products with your physical course may sway some undecided potential customers.

Process 6:
Linking It All Together

Each step at the moment on it's own isn't worth much, but when each one is linked together to form a functional, automatic system, then it can create a huge income.

Here's how the system should work. (I've taken this section from a report I'm currently working on...)

Step 1:
You drive incredible amounts of traffic to your squeeze page (we'll talk about this in a minute) and a percentage of visitors opt-in to become subscribers

Step 2.1:
Those who subscribe are entered into a “prospects” follow up sequence designed to pull sales in for your membership, your high value offers and some affiliate offers. (The follow up sequence will be described in more detail in just a minute.)

Step 2.2:
Again, those who entered their name and email address on your squeeze page are redirected to your salespage for your $15-30 membership.

Step 3:
Some of your new subscribers will also become members of your membership and will be added to your “members” follow up sequence and removed from your “prospects” follow up sequence.

Step 4:
Those who join your membership will then be redirected to your high value offer salespage. A small proportion will invest in your high value course and will be automatically added to your “exclusive” follow up sequence and removed from your “members” follow up sequence.

That’s the overview of the opt-in process, but that’s not where the bulk of your money is made.

Most of your profit will come from developing rock solid relationships with your subscribers. You need to get them to know, like and trust you. That’s when they’ll buy your $297+ physical products – and remember, that’s where the profits are.

Process 7:
Pumping Leads Into Your Business

The main objective now is to get as many leads into our business as possible. The more leads join the top of our business, the more leads come out of the bottom when they purchase our memberships and high value offers.

There are loads and loads of ways of getting leads in, but we're gonna focus on just one...

Affiliates and JV traffic.

You need to set your process up so that affiliates can drive traffic to your squeeze page and then earn money on the leads they've referred that join your membership and purchase your high value offers.

I use Rapid Action Profits, but I believe you can use 1ShoppingCart or Infusionsoft.

Then it's just a case of finding JVs and affiliates and optimizing your sales process and generating a deeper and wider sales funnel.

Loren Woirhaye 20th November 2009 07:23 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
This is one of those things that surprised me when I discovered it:

College Textbooks can sell for surprising sums on Amazon and can often
be got for free at flea markets, garage sales etc.

They have to be 2 or 3 years old at the most. Only recent editions
have much value. Biology, chemistry, mathematics, computer science -
all these are areas where a student is put over a barrel by a
professor who demands they get a specific text and they need
it by a specific date too - so they go to Amazon looking for the book.

The trick is to describe your book really accurately - in more detail
than the mass-listers, and price it competitively.

It's not a lot of money, but if you seek out the books you could
easily make a couple hundred bucks a month with virtually nothing
invested. Most books are pretty well worthless so unless you
are pretty certain a book has value I would pass on it if it were
more than a buck to buy.

rcjcal09 20th November 2009 07:27 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
Personally, the best way to fight your way out of a tough spot is to change your mindset. Understand that it's Murphy's Law that things are going to fail and go wrong. I know this sounds stupid, but if you've hit rock bottom...the only way to go is up.

I'm a little too much of an optimist, but I would encourage you that are facing hard times to not lose hope, dust yourself off and keep trying. Keep seeking out new opportunities to try and new ideas to experience.

I wish you all the very best in your pathway to success.

Michael Worthington 21st November 2009 01:49 AM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
Ok, we need money. Fast.

How much? Nobody has specified, nor has anyone said
how short our time limit is.

For the sake of the thread, let's just go for it... as
much as we can make in as short a time as possible.

The first thing I would do is go to 7 dollar Mall
and choose a product to promote that pays 100%
instant commissions.

Next, I'd come up with the money to buy whichever
product I decided on - borrow it, sell a few DVDs at the
pawn shop, whatever it took to come up with 7 bucks or
so to be able to buy the product so you can become
an affiliate.

Why? Most of these require you to be a customer in
order to resell it, plus, if you own the product you'll
be able to talk about it better.

Let's pick one and use it for our example.

"White Collar Warrior - Self Protection skills" looks good.

I happen to know a lot of people are interested in
self defense and protection so at $7 it should be
a good seller.

At $7 it's an impulse item for most people and a lot will
buy it in hopes there will be something useful.

Now, you gotta have somebody to sell it to.

You want to study the sales letter and make notes of
why one needs to be able to protect themselves and
the consequences of not being able to. Write down the
whole sales letter if you have to, but you MUST know
it well.

You need to read the book as well and get as familiar with
it as you can.

(Yes, I know this is a lot of work, but you got to have
money, and short of taking out a loan, this is going to
be the quickest way to get it other than selling all your
stuff at the pawn shop.)

Next step, sign up for a free account at BlogTalkRadio.

Now, you're going to do a short 15 to 30 minute radio show
based on the notes you took while reading the sales letter.
You'll save it on BlogTalkRadio as well as download the mp3
to your computer.

Why? Because it will get indexed in Google within an hour
or so most times; sometimes quicker, depending on how
well you choose your keywords.

It doesn't have to be elaborate, just talk about the points
made in the sales letter. You want to arouse curiosity and
and a little fear when people listen to the recording so when
you send them to the link, they're pre-sold. Just be sure to
include your affiliate link at the end so they can get more

Upload the mp3 of your recording to your webhost because
you're going to be offering it as a free download.

If you have a host with cpanel, you can set up a blog
with Wordpress and make a few entries regarding the
book, plus offer your mp3 as a free download.

Otherwise, sign up for a free "Blogger" blog, or one
from Wordpress.com. You want a little extra help in
getting indexed in the search engines as quickly and
as high as possible.

Next, do a search for self defense forums and sign up at
a few of the best ones you can find. Set up your sig file
to point to your blog and the free mp3 your giving away.

Join the conversations.

AS always, add value to the conversation, not just mindless
posts because you will get booted from most of these forums
in a heartbeat if you break protocol.

Sign up for Twitter, Facebook, SoKule, and any other social
networking sites you want to. Put the link to your blog
in your profile.

Find news articles describing personal attacks on people and
post links on your accounts. Make 3-4 posts to these news
stories, and then make a post linking to your blog. Then do it
over and over again. 3-4 posts about news stories, then a
post pointing them to your blog.

You want to get people to thinking about personal safety so
they'll download your recording and listen to it. After that, you
want them to visit your affiliate link and buy your product.

You should be able to do all this in a day; two at the most.

Now, you can also go to some free traffic exchanges and set
up free classified ads. I have had some success with these
pointing them to a squeeze page.

You read ads for credits and trade your credits for ads. They're
usually on a timer so you get credit after a few seconds. You
can go through a dozen or so in a couple of minutes and rack
up 75 to 100 credits fairly fast.

The traffic isn't targeted, but there's a ton of it so you'll get
a few bites along the way.

You should be able to give away several of your mp3 recordings
especially since you're not asking for an opt-in. (You're in a rush
for money, remember?)

One of my favorites is ClicksgoneWild.com.

Another good place is Michael Rasmussen's Free Advertising forum,
and Mike Filsaime's USFreeAds for placing free classifieds.

Next, search for self defense blogs and leave good comments
while leaving the link to your blog in the URL box.

By now, you should have made a sale or two. Take $12.50
and buy a top sponsor ad in 100,000 safelist emails at
MPB Advertising.

That's $12.50 for 100,000 opened emails, not necessarily acted on.

You'll have to have a kickass ad to get people to click your
link so you'll have to test and test.

Once you get your ad converting at a decent rate, go to
2 Bucks an Ad and place your ad in front of over 170,000
ezine readers for another $10.

Once you get some sales coming in, you can buy more
ad space in other ezines at Best Ezines.com.

At some point, you need to sign up for an autoresponder and
start capturing names and emails addresses to build a list so
you don't have to go through this again, but this will generate
some quick cash.

Once you get some momentum going you can go to:
My Fave Affiliate Products
and sign up for higher paying instant commission products.

For instance, John Yeo's "Blogger's Paycheck" that pays $67
payments straight into your Paypal account instantly!

The only thing to do now is just get started and do it. This plan
WILL work if you do. It's working for me right now!

Fear is NOT an option!

Good luck to you in your endeavors.


(edit) PS. None of the links in this post are affiliate links. I simply
put them in for convenience sake.

Steve Powers 21st November 2009 03:22 AM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
Well,really good idea.I think this will be helpful and help us save a lot of precious time.Sometimes,guys request questions without searching or thinking.That would be really annoying.

PRsubmits 21st November 2009 04:26 AM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
Thanks for all the ideas.

I agree if you are really in a tight spot (been there and done it more than once) the best way to keep your head above water is to offer your services.

It might seem boring, and not the best way to get rich, but it is surprising just how much money you can make once you start.

Jon Tees 22nd November 2009 03:58 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
Desperate times call for desperate measures I suppose. There’s nothing worse than absolutely needing to make money and failing to do so when you have a business. I mean when it gets to a situation where if you don’t start making money, you’re going to be out on the street. People who are doing well will often tell you to remain positive and this is good advice, but at the same time you’ll be thinking “That’s easy for them to say.” and it’ll be easier said than done.

Offering a service if you run a business is the best course of action as it’ll help keep you afloat and keep your business above water.

Hesaidblissfully 22nd November 2009 04:33 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
1. Go to The Freecycle Network, then find and join a group in your city.

2. Once you join up, browse through the items that people are giving away and when you see an item that you think has re-sell value, contact the item poster and make arrangements to pick the item up. (Note: I've heard it's somewhat frowned upon to tell people that you're planning to sell an item that's been freecycled, as it's sort of against the spirit of the site, but for the most part, people posting an item just want to be rid of the item, yet don't want to throw it away, so they post it. Either way, I wouldn't bring up that you're planning to re-sell it).

3. Once you have the item, sell it on Ebay or Craigslist for cash.

Additional Notes: Always be safe and use common sense when picking up an item. Either bring someone with you and/or agree with the item poster to meet in a public location or somewhere you both feel safe. Same thing if you plan to meet in person to sell it to someone on Craigslist.

4. You can also use this strategy with the "Free" section of Craigslist, but I've found the quality of items on Freecycle to be better, probably moreso if you live in a big city.

5. In addition to selling items, you may also find some items you want to keep for yourself, which is basically the whole point of the site. I've seen people giving away used printers, scanners, fax machines and typewriters that still work, books, etc. Just do your due diligence and split the wheat from the chaff.

6. Remember that if it sounds to good to be true, it very well may be. If someone's giving away a brand new iPod, and your "something doesn't feel right about this" radar is going off, you're probably better off trusting your gut.

MichaelHiles 22nd November 2009 06:05 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
A healthy dose of brutal honesty with one's self is one of the foundations.

The willingness to dump everything you once thought were priorities is another.

Getting rid of distractions and psychic vampires is another.

Circle the wagons. Narrow the focus. Quit lying to yourself to support the fragile version of reality you constructed to support your ego.

Once you're clear of the BS, you can start building.

But it starts with your head.

Bearcharlemagne 22nd November 2009 06:31 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
I would also go to Craigslist and peruse the gigs section and the wanted section. If you are willing put in some elbow grease, you can make some quick money under the belt.

Also, as this is an internet marketing forum, go to clickbank and check out the marketplace, this is a huge resource for finding different products you can affiliate yourself with and promote. You will have to do some initial gruntwork ie. writing relevant articles that get consumers intrigued about said product.

Also, there is a lot of demand for people to write articles for money. Some good websites are AssociatedContent, MyEssays, and Getafreelancer

Paul Myers 24th November 2009 06:26 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
This is going in a really good direction. Here's a little jog to keep it going. Several people have suggested offering services. That leaves a couple of questions:

Where would you offer which kind of service, and...

Which ways are the fastest for a new person getting paid?


Loren Woirhaye 24th November 2009 06:58 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
Well, in regards to services and fast cash - let's say you
offer some service you could get paid in advance for -
at least partly. This is not uncommon with WSO's and
article writing... however to say that Warriors running
article WSOs are in a marginalized position of market
power is an understatement.

I'm of the opinion that internet marketing is basically
a skilled activity which is why so many beginners struggle
to earn with it - because they haven't got the skills yet,
or at least the right combination.

You could go door-to-door approaching local businesses
offering a to-good-to-pass-up service like blogging to
get the business traffic. With a fairly rudimentary understanding
of blog promotion and a willingness to churn out new content
it would be relatively easy to send a traffic spike to any
local business's website and thus get their attention.

I'm not recommending you set up and blog for free, but for
a hundred to two hundred bucks a pop you could prove within a
week to several local businesses that you do know a thing or
two about getting traffic.

I won't go on,, because doing this requires initiative and perhaps
social skills many people lack. But it's an easy service to offer,
easy to to do and show measurable results to new clients. All
it requires this the brass ones to go out and talk to people.


In addition it's wicked easy to go top auctions and buy stuff
super-cheap to flip on Ebay and (shhh) Etsy (vintage and kitsch),
but both involve moving yer butt out of your chair and doing
stuff... which is the foundation of success in general but somehow
IM is peddled with the idea that sitting on one's rump all day
is a pleasant way to make money.

Christian Fox 24th November 2009 08:50 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate

One thing I will add...

In many cases I think getting a job when you're in a crunch is a bad play. Let's say you get a job that pays $10 per hour. You work 40 hours your first week, so you've grossed $400. After taxes are deducted, this amount will be even less.
Agreed, use your time wisely with IM and kiss that 9-5 goodbye.
Seeing my families business go bankrupt and losing my job was a terrible experience. However, it gave me the time I needed to invest in IM full time.

Silas Hart 24th November 2009 08:58 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate

Originally Posted by theinfoexpert (Post 1415719)
Good point. I have always tutored when I was desparate. If you have any skills at all (and aren't creepy) you can earn some good money. Math? Science? Writing? You just have to know more than a fifth grader.

I used to teach G.E.D. preparation for $20. Community colleges were charging $60 to people who failed so I undercut them. I used Barrons G.E.D. preparation Disc (which comes with the book) and I would let the person sit down and figure out where their weak points were by taking the test on the computer and then I worked with them until they passed.

greenowl123 24th November 2009 09:25 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
If I were desperate, I would look first at cutting all things out of my budget that are not absolutely vital to survival.

Then, I would buy or borrow a rake to rake leaves.

Or paint fences or houses.

If I knew how to play piano I would find somebody to teach to, same with teaching yoga, a foreign language, any skill that you have which someone else would pay to learn.

There are always jobs that people will pay you to do. And most people have at least one skill they can teach others to earn some cash.

Hope this helps a little.

mattlloyd 24th November 2009 09:53 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
1. Cut your expenses.
2. Reduce the number of your credit cards, having just one is the best ,and do not use it unless you need to.
3. Offer your services in the internet, check what skills you have and hone them so people will take your services
4. You’ve got to have a positive attitude about this.
5. Have faith.

mashburn 25th November 2009 01:11 AM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
You guys offer some really good suggestions here. Here's my two cents...
since we all have friends i would offer to transport the kids to school,grandma to the store,sell taffy apples,host candle parties,clean garages,clean houses,walk dogs,house sit,take pictures,due taxes and clean gutters.There is always some little annoying thing that we never want to do but are willing to pay someone else to do.Those are the things a person down on their luck will do and make quick easy money doing it.

J Bold 25th November 2009 02:37 AM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
I found a few in here I really liked. For some people, some of these will not work out for various reasons, so that's why it's great to have a lot of varied opinions and suggestions. I will come back with my own idea in the future, I just hope this thread keeps on going. It's really cool.

Rod Cortez 16th December 2009 10:18 AM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
This thread was definitely worthy of a bump because not only will people benefit from it, I think there are a lot more Warriors who can contribute who may not have seen it.

I have a TON of ideas on how to make some quick money here's one of them:

1. If you don't own Dragon Naturally Speaking yet grab a copy at Tiger Direct or on eBay (no sense in paying retail). Tip: You don't need the lastest version, I have DNS 8.0 and 9.0 on two different computers and it works just fine (after initial training). You don't need DNS, but it helps tremendously with productivity if you're going to write large amounts of content.

2. Go to the WSO section and go through offers where people are offering either writing services, articles, and/or PLR content. Focus on the ones with a lot of views and a lot of positive comments. This will give you ideas on what makes them successful.

3. Offer a WSO to sell articles (either as a service or as PLR material). Here's one example: I made $900 in one week by offering different sets of articles in 4 different niches. I offered 15 PLR articles in 4 different niches to a maximum of 25 per niche (that's 100 total). It took me two days to do all the writing (researching and then writing and then editing for spelling and grammar). Though this was years ago, people are still doing this today. Though only a few are doing it effectively.

4. Then run over to the Warriors For Hire section and offer your writing and researching skills. You can offer the first 5 or 10 clients a whopping 25 to 75% off your normal price so that you can get testimonials.

5. Trust me when I say this. If you're going to do this you MUST be 100% honest, ethical, punctual, always keep the client in the loop, offer samples of your work, and don't sell yourself short. Know when to give discounts and know when to stay your ground. Good competent writers are hard to find. I should know, I've gone through about 40 of them just this year alone! When I find a good one I want to keep them busy!

6. Make it known that you're willling to write content for a membership site, blog, or whatever on an on-going basis for a flat monthly fee. I've got one writer right now that I pay a nice weekly sum for cranking out content to a variety of my blogs.

There are plenty of marketers that look for good writers from time to time and this forum is just only one place to look. You can list yourself on Elance.com, Guru.com, DSP, etc. Just beware of the ones that aren't willing to pay for top quality. Some marketers are really cheap and only want to pay a buck or two for a 400-500 word article that is not PLR. That is ridiculous.

If you're willing to work hard you can be earning anywhere from $500 to $2000 a month in about a month. This is truly based on your efforts, the quality of your work, and your ability to network. This is a good way to get some "seed" capital to start another income stream or to pay some bills.

One last thing, as you write more and more you will find that you will be able to write better AND faster. Even though I have writers on my staff, I love to write and use DNS virtually everyday and I've got trained now where I can type with my voice at more than 175 wpm! Cranking out an e-book or a long report in one day is VERY possible.

The possibilities are endless.


JAIDEEP2959 16th December 2009 11:51 AM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
Amazing thread.

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AlexNavas 16th December 2009 11:59 AM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
If I needed cash today, I'd forget the planning, the figuring out and everything else that usually comes in the way of taking action (for these short term goals of course) and just get my hands dirty without regard for tomorrow. The need is today so I wouldn't waste time thinking about tomorrow.

I would send out an email to my friends and family members and ask them for help. I wouldn't look for handouts but odd jobs that they need done for some cash. I'd give them some ideas like "mowing your lawn, painting your living room, building the Ikea cabinet you just bought" you get the idea.

They are things they "need to get done" but haven't made the time to do it. I've gotten $100 for setting up an entertainment center which is plug and play, $50 for cutting grass, $25 for shoveling snow...

Next, I would go on Craigslist and sell things that you don't need anymore. I just sold my iPhone for $150 in 30 minutes even though the speaker phone and audio didn't work. Then I had a Sidekick phone laying around and got $100 for it within the hour.

Next, if I have any internet marketing skills which should be evident from being on this forum, I would go to Google and look up a market that's already spending money on Adwords and tell them I'll get them on the first page of Google for a a couple hundred bucks. It takes about 30 minutes of your time to get them listed on Google local (and Yahoo and Bing) and you can make several hundred in no time flat.

All in all, desperate times call for desperate measures and if you wanted to get cash that day, there are hundreds of ways to do it, but that's the point, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO IT!

Michael Kohler 16th December 2009 12:09 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
I just watched a video that could help. It talked about Youtube and how you can piggyback on very popular videos.

For instance, there is a movie right now on called Avatar. I am assuming that if you look at the title, there are some common keywords.

If you made a movie review of Avatar, and titled it in a similar way, you could piggy back off of the traffic.

When the video is finished, there is that multiple choice screen to pick other related videos. If yours is similarly titled, then yours should come up.

To monetize it, you could use CPA offers with a YES NO question thing. "Did you like the movie? YES or NO. The redirect on the images takes them to the page with the THANKYOU and the offer.

If you need money now, you could place a link there to the $7 script product or RAP product. If you get enough visitors, and the product is like MAKE MONEY, it should convert if you have a huge volume of traffic.

That is what the video said. I added the last half regarding CPA, $7, and RAP. Just kind of came to me while writing this actually. Heck, I'll try it out today and see how it works!

Good luck and Happy Holidays.


Rod Cortez 16th December 2009 01:13 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
Idea #2: Go to a website like Craigslist / Recycler and buy and sell stuff. My friend's wife makes an extra $1,000 a month on a very part-time basis by finding good deals and then reselling them on the same websites!

Recently, she found a bedroom furniture set from a motivated seller who was moving out of state. She bought the entire set for $350 and then flipped it for $800. Took about 15 minutes on the web then another couple of hours to go get the items. Took another 15 minutes (if that) to put up her own ad on Craigslist. She has multiple listings going on at once. If she wants to double her income she simply puts more time into it.

Her quickest turnaround time has been 45 minutes, making $75 reselling a DVD player with a bunch of DVDs that came with it. Her motto is "everything is negotiable", ala Herb Cohen. :D

Obviously this won't help you if you don't have any money to get started......


AndrewCavanagh 27th February 2010 09:23 PM

Re: What to do if you're desperate
# Slash your expenses. Be ruthless. There's always something you're paying for that you don't need.

# Sell anything you don't need through ebay, local online classified ads, craigslist etc. You could also have a garage sale if that's possible and appropriate in your area.

# If you already have some kind of internet marketing skill (eg. you can blog, you can put a video on youtube, pay per click, SEO, writing reports or articles) then you can use those skills to help local businesses make more sales and profits.

The quickest way to get hired to do this is to talk to the business owners you already know, the business owners your friends and family know and the owners of businesses where you're spending your money.

You could also walk into businesses and talk to the owners. Since doing this is free you're not taking any real risk and you have a good chance of picking up a client or multiple clients who will pay for you from $250 to $2,500+.

Also remember to ask any business owner you talk to who they know who might benefit from your knowledge and skills.

Referrals from other business owners are often the easiest prospects to turn into paying clients.

# If you're really desperate for money make a list of all the things you've done in the past to make money (including jobs, business ventures etc etc) and seriously consider doing some of those things.

Your objective should be to do something now that has a serious chance of working for you.

Do more of what's working and less of what's not working to make you real income.

Kindest regards,
Andrew Cavanagh

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