I could name several but the one that changed things for me is

The Dynamic Laws of Prosperity by Catherine Ponder

She has written several other books in this series which I would
also recommend but that first book is essential.

If I had not read that book at an early age my whole life would
be totally different, and not in a good way. Please do yourself a
favor and read this book and apply its principles to your life,
if you haven't done so already.

Hi Gordon.

Although you briefly mentioned it, I would definitely recommend "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" (By Robert Kiyosaki). Reading his series of books was informative, enlightening, and even mind-blowing ... I suppose a good "takeaway" would be that the Middle class are accumulating liabilities (including houses) that they think are assets.

(Just search Amazon.com or Wikipedia for more information.)

I think the reason we are not taught how to actually make money is that it isn't socially acceptable to talk about how to make money.

It's acceptable to talk about saving money, managing money, donating money, even getting a job.

But making money? No.
Why? Because the vast...vast majority of ways to make money, every facet of it, strikes the majority of people as either manipulative, cheating, taking advantage of people, or evil.

That's why it will never be taught in schools.

The same with selling. Never. Even "advertising and marketing" are really just institutional advertising. branding, surveys, that sort of thing.

Educational systems like colleges and institutes teach you how to be great employees.

Another reason would be...who would teach such classes? Would you want to teach any entrepreneurial subject to a group of college students?

I wouldn't. Every 5 minutes would be a debate about morality.....about "The rich get richer and the poor get poorer'...about "income inequality".

I feel like throwing up, just typing the words.

You made some very intesresting points .Money is a tool and those that "say money isn't everything" usually complain about it the most or have the least .

I have learned to let my money work for me in capital appreciating assets where it earns compound interest .

The book I would recommend is intelligent investor.

I grew up in an entrepreneurial family with both my parents, brother, and half of my extended family owning their own businesses so a lot of what I've learned has been passed down in terms of general business sense. The rest was learned from people who are much smarter than I am - some who were simply charismatic and those who had real insights to share with me. I learned from both types of teachers.

I believe that people generally live up to their own self-concept most of the time. If they aren't an entrepreneurial type of person, to begin with then it's unlikely they would even be interested in growing a million-dollar company. The same applies to comfort zones with how much money people have in the bank. I know people who are talented but are perpetually broke no matter the time of year, while others are always buying the newest cars and going on long trips overseas while being only average people. I feel that it's largely down to your will and intention to make money that allows it to happen. Intelligence and talent are required too, but you only need to be as smart as you need to be depending on the task at hand.

I learned some of these ideas in a book named Success Is for You: Using Heart-Centered Power Principles for Lasting Abundance and Fulfillment by David R Hawkins. All of his books are great but I thought this one would apply here.

I recently went back to university to finish a business degree I started in my early 20s, and I can say that the above is true. Most kids taking these courses are liberal, as well as most professors - even in my business course. I don't blame younger people for thinking this way as they don't know any better. They mostly listen to what social media tells them. It would help though if the professors would be the ones to explain that incomes follow a power-law distribution like many other data sets that we can observe in nature and elsewhere. The fact is that the rich do get richer, exponentially so as time goes on. But it's not because they're evil people most of the time, it's just how economics in a free market works. Like other things that follow power-law distributions, wealth is as impersonal and agendaless as the size of raindrops or the growth of forest patches.

Hey Gordon,
One of many that come to mind is William J Oneil's "How to Make Money with Stocks". I've read this book probably 5 or 6 times. Just a great way to learn about the fundamentals of a stock and what to look for in the best stocks to own as well as solid look in the stock market and how it works as well as some advanced teachings in this book.

I think anyone who cares about money and keeping it should give this book a thorough reading!

As we take in the sublime Joocy of Gordon's post, I would wanna conjoinify a coupla stuffs ...

Ain't there DEPTHS in faith, fam, friends & health plenty people can't plunder too easy?

Plenty despairin', lonely, loveless & sick people pump more money than I gaht into schemes fulla no actschwl valyoo.

But all these sorry souls are sailin' I guess.

Crossin' oceans to escape their torment an' meet up with sum fyooture self gonna save 'em.

So I would wanna postulate a yearnin' ocean of impossibility as the worst kinda interface between circumstance an' dream.

Might there be an easiah connect between stuff you gaht, shit in abundance kinda bores you or you figure has no valyoo ... an' dearth of same closah to home than paddlin' through the Pacific?

Meantime, I coulda done with less math in school an' more hoola hoopin'.

Them teachahs presoom kids pick up all that exotic stuff instantly, but I nevah figured it out till I was 22 an' developed pseudo hips.

Mebbe there is a market sumplace for hoops slung offa wire trailed from an exotic wig.

"Huh! Nowan will notice this hoop is suspended from muh head as I wiggle exotically an' mesmerise all with muh hoola antics -- less'n they remembah I ain't no blonde an' only ended up this way bcs the damn wig was on speshl offah ..."

Thinking more on the subject of wealth in general. Most people in the world are considered poor. Poor people can be blessed with all the right skills, personal qualities, and experiences to be financially stable, yet don't have control over the context or the composite of causes of what keeps them in poverty. Some of the conditions that influence poverty include: timing, intention, probability, potential, likelihood, momentum, favoritism, selection, randomness, the weather, economic conditions, morale, political climate, availability, supply, need, affordability, social morality, etc. All these things and more determines the context that allows poverty or wealth to thrive.

I grew up on welfare raised by a single mom, I've been homeless twice , you are very right that getting rich from nothing is definitely a slow burn.

Another magnetic GordonJ contribution.

What really steams my buns is people like Suze Orman who travel the world telling people to pinch and scrape but she never suggests to them that they create their own brands, DVDs, Tutorials as she does and become a Millionaire now.

Same for YouTube. You can get a quick estimate of how much a Channel is generating if they are monetized. And when I see someone earning a decent living on YouTube suggesting to scrape and sacrifice and never mention to create a popular YT channel it makes me cringe

I have said this before that if I was on a webinar and it got me so excited I had credit card out ready to pull the trigger on a "must have" life changing $2000 infoproduct then that is the time I need to add Webinar Marketing to my arsenal.

BiggerPockets - Community/Forums/Podcasts. It's beyond just a Real Estate knowledge dump. Been an active member ever since I jumped onboard the passive investing train. You get to learn how to make, keep and grow money from accomplished millionaires.

Savage you have great info.

Instead of the paycheck/investor spli the split that is becoming more dominant. Is people who earn money to support their lifestyle. And The Who earn money from their lifestyle.

The more wages from full time jobs don't provide enough money for people to have the lifestyle they want. The more they find other ways to earn the money to get the lifestyle they want. And the harder it gets for employers to find workers.

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This is so true! This is especially true here in the Philippines.

We are raised to become workers, not entrepreneurs. We are taught to earn money by means of a job, not make money from selling or creating something.

Sad.

Worst thing 'bout 'entreprenoor'?

Nowan can actschwlly spell it.

That is naht a cool start when you communin' with the Cosmos.

Stars gaht authority that way.

Tahp down burn.

(You would want always for watery stuffs to trickle, but incineration says NO!)

So I would want all these speshl people up their own ass to figure what happens next a little bettah, tyvm.

All laddahs up lead equally noplace if'n laddahs may no longah stand.

There!

Now I put evrythin' right for evrywan!

Claude

I remember my teachers in the fifth grade talking to each other whining how unfair it was people got paid millions of dollars to hit a baseball. When what they did was so much more important.

Then later on about as much about business I learned in school was the widget. You invent a widget then go build a factory to make the widget. Then sell the widgets

First full time job I had working in food processing I learned things work far differently.

Now if we wanted to teach about money and business in school. The best this to do would be to have the IRS form a curriculum to teach the tax code.

The majority of people with investment are not real investments their wealth is in the equity In their home and their retirement plan. Then you get into speculators.

The only thing most Americans can really invest in is ammo

I am not going to requote Gordon's post . But I am going to ask what seems like a stupid question. What exactly is financial freedom? Or is it basically just another meaningless concept.

I am overly biased so I will say for a majority of people it's when they no longer need to go into a job they hate every day . To earn the money to support their lifestyle.

Where the people who achieve financial freedom where they can live off the income from their wealth. Will continue to work every day and keep building wealth.

I'm naive, biased,and idealistic so so I believe the people in jobs they hate need to get into work they enjoy doing. Where I takes a long time to actually achieve financial freedom.

Wealthy people and high earners do not speak the same English as the rest of the English speakers. Several of the terms and words have completely different meaning to people in different economic spheres.

Savage

As for the two richest people in the world currently. They are in the business of creating the next economy. And developing robots and other technology to replace human workers.

Tesla has been turning vehicles into robots. And Amazon is developing or buying the companies developing the robots that replace their human workers.

Did you read that not only has Elon sold all his mansions he has had boxable tiny home place near his giga plant in the USA that he stays in.

Anyway there is so much the companies both of these guys are involved in are doing. They are latterly creating the next economic system. The post great reset economy.

The phone rings in the 'secret multi-millionaire hideout in rural West Virginia'.

"Hello," says Cynthia. "Who you wanna speak to, zackly?"

Her $50,000 earpiece stays silent for a moment. Perhaps she hears a cough. Then a voice barks, "I'm after HIM. You know ... THE ONE."

"I'd love to help you," says Cynthia, her voice filling with warmth and compassion till she takes a breath and dishes the hard deets, "but the whole purpose of a secret multi-millionare hideout in rural West Virginia is that I can reveal nothing about the 2,372 extraordinary people who hang out here. I'm not even permitted to tell you this secret multi-millionaire hideout isn't even in rural West Virfrickinginia."

"But I need him to fix up my stuff," the voice continues, bark morphing uncomfortably into a poodle stance with visibly parabolic piss oozing from every skin pore.

Cynthia HRMPHED with such venom she knew instantly her current $750 month pelvic floor therapy with DUANE was TOAST. "Yeah, everyone who calls in here says that. What makes YOU so special?"

Five minutes later, she'd forgotten the whole incident.

Just another asshole trying to get lucky.

As she slipped on her coat on her way through security, a voice rang out from beyond the $1,000,000,000,000 diamond Zeus statuette display. "Did anyone call for me today, Cynthia?"

She averted her gaze from the shallow specter peering from the doorway. "They did not."

The car waiting outside sped her home, as always.

Who cared if this wasn't rural West Virginia?

The secret multi-millionaires paid well enough for now, and she would surely make it to the place of her dreams in the end ...

Referring to the original question of the OP, a book that I read ages ago and really impressed me was "The Magic Of Thinking Big" by Richard J Schwartz. Of course Napolean Hill's "Think and Grow Rich" was also very impressive to me as that was the first time I'd ever really read about creating wealth.


Stu

I think it really boils down to:
Am I happy with my current lot in life?

Of course, like most I can write a novel but each time I ask myself questions along these lines it simply comes back again to this.

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Great post . Did you ask the lawn care guys if they had plow to put on their trucks in the winter to clean off driveways and parking lots.

I find those I know who do the thing have a few other things they do in the slow period to do and earn money. And there is a fair amount of bartering or service trading. That might not get documented

Anyway very good post

Money buys pretty much all those things lol

well except faith

thanks for the book recommendation

HA!

Of course they don't really want to be successful or grow a business their families probably thing they are bums who can keep a job or should be working for a corporation with benefits and retirement plans.

As long as they are struggling every week but still paying their bills they can play the game of being to busy. If they got it down to earning all the money they needed in a few days. They would have people showing and thinking the are a source of free labor

"Well sense you are not to busy can you help with. Blah blah blah

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Gordon mentioned the pro landscaper with the green house. Landscaping trees and shrubs can take 1 to 2 years to grow with a few dollars and a square foot of floor space with occasional watering . When the landscaper plants them in a customers yard. They easily charge from 30$ to over $100 per tree or shrub.

So we get into the mindset of sales people and business people. Versus the people selling their labor week to week.

And with that model they can raise shrubs and trees and sell them to other landscapers and still make nice profits

So you start getting in real entrepreneurs

I have been convinced for a long time most who start businesses are just replacing what ever income they had. So it is interesting to study how people make good amounts of money.

The pro landscaper also will sell to wealthy clients willing to spend thousands or tens of thousands on landscaping every year

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Basic math and running numbers. How does he stay in business if $1000 a week is a high earning week for his business.

I remember reading that it wasn't Walmart that destroyed many small retail stores it was the credit and debit card machines . Because a lot of small shops where doing a lot of cash business that didn't get recorded. I don't know how true it was though.

Honestly I don't think 90 percent of people are still thinking in terms of what was a lot of money to make 30 years ago and not increase it with inflation.

It great when the conversation gets deeper that mindsets and explain what behaviors are present in each mindset. So someone can identify where they need to change. Or if they can't change accept the mindset. They have without beating them selves up

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Gordon I agree with you .

All though all preppers are called doomsday preppers the upper middle class and wearisome it more as a chosen lifestyle. While the poor who pre do it because their incomes give them little choice. And they despise handouts.

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Top earning people tend to have to sell people on their abilities. And sell to people with the money to pay them what they believe they are worth.

They tend to be competitive but only when it comes to those with about the same skill level or slightly better. And they work around or with the best in other fields if it means they do better.

Much of the focus ends up being on the unicorn or super stars when it comes to success. But around them they attract the best.

I think I finally nailed the element i was looking for with the response to stress. As far as where people need to start focusing as they shift mindsets .

Then it figuring out what you can do to be among the best where is that line to get in the top 10 percent. Because that is where those who make the most money in a field do so

Blah blah I'm rambling

Achievement is mebbe eternal.

Sum wishful fling into anyplace 'long the impossible-improble axis that credits you with sum kinda plus on your time an' effort.

Course, to be a supah speshl person, any persnl advantage you gain don't gotta mean ZILLIONS now feedin' offa the primordial slime c/o your personal genius.

As it turns out, if'n they happen alongside durin' the manifestation of your own miraculature, the only ones gonna suffah are the lame shitbrains outside of the loop.

Thankfully, the ignorant ain't evah gonna suffah extra bcs this.

But you would wanna ask srs questions of The Perfectly Informed, who then bunk out on a (prolly "bettah informed tvm") kinda whim.

Claude

After all the effort many of these people went through to get a degree. They are stuck paying off their student debt in a job that has nothing to do with what they studied in college.

I am over generalizing .the people who study how to be better sales people usually move on to sales training or starting their own business. I have run into several sales people who claimed they where good. And a common thread is their employers stealing commissions.

But then I have run into very skilled crafts people who had a refined sales/ marketing message to sell the much higher price they are selling their thing for

As far as obsession goes I know what triggers my obsessive nature I just have not figured out the business I can build around it yet .so I am gradually learning skills around what I am going to do.

Claude if you where still practicing martial arts regularly you would be able to transfer the physical conditioning a self control and be above average soon after starting golf.

My lower back is f'd I am generally not in pain but I was shopping today and stressed my bag moving to fast to pick a couple packages of bagels from the bottom rack. So I am not about to walk a golf course and swing a club I would end up throwing out my back.

Anyway that whole idea of transferring skills developed in one area into another needing similar skills. Gets lost in the mastery discussion.

Usually only people with way above average iq and aptitude can achieve mastery. In the120 to just over 130 you can simulate mastery build high levels of proficiency in multiple supporting skill sets

If you wanted to play golf. You would even with the conditions you list. I played in my early twenties and had a problem with my vision and couldn't track a golf ball after I hit it. So I lost a big pleasure of the game.

You would figure out how to play at a basic level if you got into selling golf equipment.

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I haven't read much books lately, but through one of my college courses, I realized having money isn't everything. What's valuable to me are the tools used to create passive (or aggressive) income.

For almost a year, I kept redoing my goals and strategic ideas to fit everyone's expectations perfectly. However, my boyfriend made it clear that less is more. Ever since then, I used that concept. Now, I'm pushing beyond my own boundaries to perfect my craft and enhance my passion.

Ha, I'm 25 and I know how to balance a check book and write a check! My dad made sure I learned that.

Reading these comments is speaking to me on a different level. I'm increasing my passion for networking and marketing. I love writing and illustration, but when I visit my stats page or pay attention to different avenues when increasing traffic, I feel... Idk how to put it, I guess hungrier and different. I want to know more behind the numbers and the time people take reading or admiring my craft. My boyfriend is the same way, except he's not as hands on as I am, unless he occasionally check his progress.

He's a musician, and I get aggressively passionate when he opens up about which platform streams the most, or how much time he needs to dedicate towards his skills to earn consistent passive income.

Sorry for sounding like a newbie. I'm amazed with what I'm reading and how much knowledge y'all hold and willing to share.

I have gained so much from this thresd. Thanks a lot.


In my younger years I read 'Think and Grow Rich' by Napoleon Hill and 'Men who made America great.'



It helped me over the years.
I believe we become what we think. If what's inside does not change positively. then the outside is gabbage.

wealth dynamics by roger hamilton should do good basics n foundation for this

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How fast do you want to gain it and how long have you been at the same weight

First you have to screw up your metabolism by trying to lose weight replicating famine and starvation. So cut your intake of calories and start doing several hours a day of cardio remove all fat from your diet and only eat green vegetables raw so you have to spend hours a day chewing foods.

Once you have destroyed as much of your lean muscle mass flip the diet to pasta drowning in olive oil and as much deep fried foods as you can afford.

Depending how close you are do a convince stop the sell the 64 oz fountain soda and alcohol drink enough alcohol while you are eating and eat enough food to fall into a food coma after every meal. An make sure from the moment you wake up to when you go to sleep you are drinking soda and keeping your blood sugar as high as possible.

Once you put the 50 pound on you will probably be showing signs of being diabetic because you body is trying to shut of the weight gain. But if you want to keep getting fatter go on diabetic medications cut down on real sugar but go to eat and drinking as much artificial sweeteners as possible

Of course people have goals in the USA the general goal is retirement. The people who don't think they will retire are on the slow suicide plan following some version of the diet plan I just wrote out so they die before they run out of money

Say someone smokes a pack of cigarettes a day and they spend 8$ per pack their goal is to spend about 3,000$ a year on cigarettes and they probably need to earn 4000$ a year to do that

Before new goals are set one Ned to write down what will happen if they continue doing the things the are doing now. And where that will get them in 6 months a year and so on.

Because those are the goals most people have

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I so love WF when procreational cool drips from outta its dialog like sweat from sum superathleticly transformational Greek Goddess as she busts a gut to save mortalkind.

Howevah, I am naht of that ilk, so prolly I missed plenty subtlty here as I flounced around on my slacker ass.

Hey, but here is one thing I saw -- upon which I am now actin' steada merely scrollin' ...

I would wanna exalt the enthoosiasm here but query the delay.

As a yogah gal figures stillness is a yardstick to measure actschwaahn, I would naht wanna be jumpin' about noplace at random on a whim 24/7, howevah inspirin' my hellbentiture.

It is the diffrence, I guess, between kissin' guys in a pheromone haze or pausin' for a sec to take in their Total Frickin' Dork Factor -- then watchin' Dr Strange in the lotus position with a bottle of Cabernet Sauvignon.

Impulse demands immediacy, but as I matyoore into an older gal, I figure you gotta slow things down.

This way, the decision becomes the moment, without delay, all kinda flooid.

A merciless cavortin' with all emergence!

Less dowin', more flowin'.

Evry gymnast or dancah knows decision is an immediate stance toward the reality of gravity an' perhaps sum stoopid costoom ridin' up their crack whenever they flickflack their glory before a pernickety judgin' panel.

An' even serious chess guys gotta sit up propah to manifest their cerebral Spock-bustin' prowess.

So prolly anythin' decidy happens at the same time we movin' our respective lumps, humps & protuberismo.

Whatevah innervates our flesh permits no delay.

Drives me frickin' crazy, tellya.

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I was not talking about cashless society. I was talking about central bank digital currency. It should be simple to understand.

Anyway as far as trends go it depends on the lifestyle you want and the trends that offer opportunities to earn money of those who want similar lifestyle.

After all the American dream is dead for many people so they are exploring different options

At what point does marketing stop being marketing and become IM . You have seen most of the direct marketing progression the last 45 years.

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Anything out the safe job that allows a person to buy a house and eventually retire. Is something besides the American dream for people born in the USA.

Migrants generally have a far different version of the American dream. Deepening on how the earned money before coming to the USA.

As you pointed the American dream became a consumer nightmare where people focus more on all the things they don't have.

The homeless experience resets that if from job loss or financial problems and you can appreciate when and understand what the necessities are. Shower, toilet draw full of clean underwear. Food stored where ants can't get in it.

n my subjective opinion, reading books or watching YouTube videos is only a part of success, until you really start making Youtube and realize that despite applying what you see and hear, the results are still not good.
I'm also doing Youtube, and even though I tried to make beautiful thumbnail as people say, doing SEO reached 100 points (according to Tubebuddy's score), I still haven't seen good results.
Now I'm also using automatic sub software named Subblink to translate my videos into many languages to help my channel reaches more viewers around the world. After using this software, everything seems to be improved (probably because I reach more viewers), but I still want better results, so I think I'll need to tinker with YouTube more, instead of just reading books or listen to what Youtubers say. I don't think they will show all the tips they use to boost their channel (these tips are the main factor to make their channel successful )). That's why I don't have any books to recommend.

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Mebbe we are at the meet point of what flows from a variety of dreams set before a selection of possible/permissible horizons?

Like plunderin' the Cherokee, for example.

Likely this worked as a strategy for survival if'n you on the winnin' side back in 18chafesyunderweahlandtimes.

But as side quests turn from options to essentials (like evrywan here vs evrywan naht here bcs us & naht sum stoopid accidental asteroid nor nuthin') all stuffs positively confluxual between hoomans gotta figure bettah than we all shoot usselves in the frickin' tits.

Unless we decide shootin' usselves in the tits actschwlly DOES have value.

In which case ima writin' no more.

So let us all work out more gladsy on our intrinsic fuel stuffs an' pull in expertise from on yondah would kill us if'n circumstance compelled us to fill the gap alone.

Every = is a balance.

Marcus Campbell he has a Youtube channel and he outlines how to make money online these days. He has a course but he covers exactly how to go from point A to Z as you stated in his Youtube Videos. I really suggest his video titled "Hard Work = Zero To $10M - Aggressive Side Hustles!"

I have watched most of his videos and he really goes into the depths of how to make money online.

One lesson he teaches is that if someone is making money doing something you can to. Research how they did it and then reverse engineer their process and then put in hard work to get there.

The fun part of this.

We can look at the reasons millions of people people are taking part in the great resignation. Then figure out how much these tens of millions of people are looking to earn. Or as much as 1 in 3 workers.

A large hungry crowd just not interested in the traditional biz opportunities bull shop. That go back before the internet.

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Back to the spirit of the OP, it wasn't a book. It was advice.

Go knock on some doors. If I wanted money.

The doors might be literal. Or just metaphorical.

The thing is, I didn't hear a lot of "no's" when I was a kid. Example, when it snowed, I went only to houses that hadn't yet cleared out their sidewalk or driveway. I was learning targeting. But it was just common sense right?

And that's the thing about sales that I personally see? If you just go with common sense, it ain't that hard.

Example -- I run FB ad campaigns. And get paid well to do so. But have strict, common sense criteria on who I sell to.

So I see these programs that'll teach you how to get 50 booked sales appointments per month.

And I'm fully booked doing 4-5 sales appointments per month.

Why? Common sense. I only talk to companies that can legit afford my retainer. And who already run paid ads.

In the niche I specialize in. To get on the phone with me? Is difficult.

I'm not a sales wiz by any means. I could never write a book or sell a course.

I just figure out who the perfect client would be. And ONLY talk to them.

That's what knocking on doors taught me. I think everyone has to go through that stage. Obvious becomes obvious.

Not the truth. Just my experience.

As far as books go - the only one that has ever resonated with my experience is Og Mandino.

I treat everyone like family. Again knocking on doors taught me that. The only way I wasn't nervous as a kid?

Was to see everyone that opened the door as my grandma, grandpa, uncle, aunt, mother, father, etc.

And it played out well later on in sales in one of the toughest territories in the US -- the NYC Metro area.

I didn't need a book for that. I needed people experience.

Black, white, rich, poor, I can sell to ya. But only if you need what I sell. Otherwise, I don't. Even if I could.

But again, only life experience could teach me that. Not a book.

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You really don't need a book or to study a book to know how to earn money. Your best option is to make research and see what you are good at doing and invest your time and some money in it. If you spend most of your time online watching videos then consider similar ways from earn from such activities.

The means of making money are endless but always remember that no money comes easy without an effort.

Prahblem you gaht here poppet is that naytyoore ain't gaht no clue in the terms you describe.

tbh the death-to-life journey you suggest presupposes sum kinda celestial miracle.

Plus also it gaht no place for myootational quirks kinda level stuff out.

Such are the parameters of all stuffs purportin' to speak TROO NATYOORE.

Also, the ratio of men to women hypes up more easily on a gangbang ticket than if'n us gals can simply can spell out no fkr straight.

Plus also, aincha heard of double figures or nuthin'?

Evry repricatorial demands a hallway fulla invitorial.

Social entry back about the the of the great financial crisis I was playing World ofWarcraft and there where a lot of people who did bad in math in school. That turned around and learned how to use spreadsheets to calculate what effects minor changes in gear would have on their damaged per second/ healing or survival as a tank

The problem with the education system is if you got in a time machine and went to a classroom 150 years ago it would look like a classroom today.

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Elon musk is in no way selling a status item. Everyone who buys a Tesla is a humble sort who never would use driving a Tesla to feel better than people who still drive ice vehicles.

The third richest guy in the world the guy with all the luxury brands.

And buffet I believe a large chunk of Berkshire holdings is stocks in apple .

And I'm sure no one is using Amazon to buy stuff that are luxuries. Or status purchases

A 2021 example of evolution -- Covid is here to stay. Most likely. It will evolve much like influenza. It will learn to survive and replicate. That's evolution. Not seduction. That's why there's a "Delta" variant. Evolution.

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I would wish always to sweat sweet when I wanna get active an' dream fyootyoores outta their socks when I floppin' out.

This may naht be evrywan's yardstick, but it is most defolishsly mine.

Am I evolvin' into all I wish to be?

Or mutatin' like sum supplicant polyp strung out noplace?

Hey, the f*ck I care 'bout that schwango.

Jus' gotta figure evrywan wants to snoopsy on out sumplace kinda feelgood accordin' to all kindsa boundaries.

Prahblem we gaht rn is how this feachers historically challengin' opportunities for bein' a total c*nnyhole.

The dialog of adrenaline rush an' soulful reflection is way more important than plenty people think.

But here is a scale, like a harmonica, I guess.

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I don't see working or making money as evil.

And yes I might not want all that much stuff. If I earn the money to get the stuff I want. And don't endlessly work to earn more and more money. That is evil or some kind of sin to you.

You really think the world would be a better place if everyone was like you . There would be no reason to make most of what is made because people are to cheap to buy.

The culture you are in offer you the ability to earn so much money because it. Is a consumer based culture and it has gone around the world. People make money doing one thing and buy other stuff they need.

As jobs pay less than what people need to live on people will refuse to do those jobs and find other ways to earn money or get different jobs and make money on the side.

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The lotto tickets allows someone to dream of how they would spend all that money between the time they purchase a ticket and the drawing

Scratch tickets users occasionally have streaks where they win money but if they tracked it over time they would most likely be in the red .

I don't want to argue weather people should or should not buy scratch tickets from being around people who buy these items this is my observation of why people buy.

Honestly it the high cost of drinking at bars as to why I am fixated on home cooking. That is why food is so salty when you eat out . Salt increases thirst so you drink more. And soda pop with hfcs is as bad for your liver as alcohol.

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I think we are talking about the same thing when you say tribe and I say audience.

Remembering back over 20 years ago when I played golf for a few years I remember spending a few hundred on a putter from an informational that stood up on its own. So you could stand behind it and look at the line. And I did spend a few hundred on a video cassette ultimate gravity golf swing course

As for gen alpha they will hit their 20s after the great reset

Call me frickin' clueless, but since when did tribes become audiences?

Stop by any Thesaurus, you see TRIBE pulls in clan, band, bunch (etc)

an' AUDIENCE has wider coalescence of potential volume bcs witnesses, gatherings, *spectators*.

This is why tribes celebrate the myootyool pluckin' of glop from outta glop as all consequence in the Cosmos ...

an' audiences of audaceous ear swill fulla song 'spitin' all the muck.

Tribes will always be tribal.

Less'n they audible, they deniabl.

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Hey savage

You're already like family to me any discussion with them some how turns into an argument. As least there is some great information in what you say. And pay check or social security check where the only way to earn a living. To them still is.my brothers worked themselves in disability checks .

I got stuck up here through the pandemic in a few weeks I will be going somewhere else preferably somewhere warm but also not California.

You mentioned the I hate my job so I will start some kind of business money motivation. It never enter the mindset that they can enjoy the way they make money. Or get their entertainment from their work.

It is not a natural jump without being around someone who enjoys the work they do.

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Personally, money is not important to me. And that's probably why I don't have any. I'm actually trying to place more importance on money because it always seems to elude me. And when presented with opportunities to make or receive money, I turn them down. Strange.

Don't get me wrong, I want money and success because it means one thing - freedom. And that is what is important to me. Currently trying to become more selfish in regards to money. But without a doubt, the reason why I seem to fail to acquire money despite my best efforts is because of my Christian faith.

And if anyone could advise me regarding this that would be much appreciated =)

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So I haven't taken the time to read all the comments...

but, I have a couple thoughts.

Everybody follows the same path to becoming wealthy. I'm not referring to the inheritance people.

I'm convinced anyone can become wealthy if they follow the principles other wealthy people have followed.

Has nothing to do with the what or how they became wealthy...it is all about their mindset.

I'm convinced you can become wealthy selling pencils...or do hickeys...or dog crap.

If you've ever been around an extremely successful person, you start to realize...

they've tried a ton of different things and have probably failed at a ton of different things.

Often, we look at the end result. We don't see their journey. We don't see their failures and we don't take the time to realize they were probably at their lowest point several times...but they didn't give up. We see the fancy cars and big houses, but we don't see the hard times.

If I had nothing today and wanted to start over and all I had was an idea to sell pencils on the street corner somewhere, I'm convinced I could become wealthy all over again.

There's a saying that if you took all the money in the world, and divided it equally to everyone...within a few months the same people would have the same amount of money they had before you divided it all up.

It's a mindset that only a few have to be able to accumulate wealth.

The first rule is, you have to start...

so if I stood on a street corner tomorrow and started selling pencils, I'd probably realize it wasn't the best plan. I'd then figure out how to better sell the pencils. If I was of the mindset that I was going to succeed at any cost, I'd get busy coming up with a plan.

So, let's say I decided to a better plan would be to go to a big business and sell them pencils in bulk. I'd try that. Let's say that failed. I've got the mindset that I'm going to succeed...and not only succeed, but I'm going to be willing to change course and be ready to pivot quickly.

I discover that these businesses don't want pencils...they want pens...and not just any pen, but pens with their logo on them. So I get busy and start selling those.

Probably still wouldn't make me wealthy at first, but I'd soon figure out a way to go national and get more business, then I'd go worldwide, and then probably figure out there was something they wanted more than pens...I'd quickly change course and start with that.

The journey along the way is where you learn the secrets.

So, what I'm trying to explain...I wouldn't know what they really wanted or how to become profitable until I had started.

Usually, what you start with is not where you will finish. But you don't know until you've started.

It's a journey. It's a journey that only a few will try. Most will give up and quit. Most will take the first failure at selling pencils on the corner and quit. Most will go home and complain that it can't be done.

The difference between a successful person and most is how quick they can get back up and overcome a setback. Most quit. A successful person with a drive keeps going.

There is no secret formula. There is no perfect product.

I've given this speech to people before...

they'll set a goal...let's say they want to lose 200 pounds. They'll wish it happened overnight, and I tell them that won't prepare you for the end result.

Between your goal and the end is where your life changes...it's where your mind changes...it's where you prepare yourself for the end goal. Between A and B is where the magic happens. Why would you want to miss out on the magic?

Put your failure trophies on the wall. Admire them. Be proud of them.

Don't know if any of what I'm trying to say makes sense, but I'm trying to explain my point without writing a whole blog.

As we know Money to Money...
That's all

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He also mentioned that People think a degree is the only way to become successful in life. But in a book why students work for c students and b students work for government, he said it is because they have never been taught about financial education.

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@Socialentry:

Haven't the slightest clue about all that.

My son use to play video games for hours and hours...he's now high up with a big six-figure position in the echelon at Boeing so I'm thinking it may have paid off.

Gordon: To me, spirituality is getting in tune with one's self.

I know most think it has a religious connotation...but I'm referring to the cosmetics of a person's inner being.

I'm thinking we both are on the same page but maybe describing it in different terms?

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Guess that you can make money from 101 to 999, however you have to pick a proper option for it. In my opinion, there are plenty of activities which can possibly help you to earn some money, but you should know how to run this activity. It may take plenty of times, ut if you know some activities where you have already earned some money, then it would be easy for you. For example, if we pick trading activity, then it's very difficult to boost deposit from 101 to 999, however if you already have been succeeded in trading, it will be a pretty easy task fopr you.

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Great post, thread! Learning a ton on this forum! Ive been an off and on digital marketer for over 20 years and it never ceases to amaze me how much access to knowledge we have in our lifetime! The trick of it of course is to learn how to sift through that knowledge from the mountain of misinformation and misinterpretation and find and apply the diamonds in the rough?? THey are out there, though!

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Profit

I lived and worked in Vegas on the strip for a year a half and saw how much money people could spend. I use to play online rpgs and I tend to be a strong player and end up leading guilds which is partly why I lost interest in game's.

But I had individuals I played with who spent hundreds or thousands of dollars in a weekend and stopped playing the game a few weeks later. Or where playing catch up or buy the most competitive characters.

But I also get to talk to people and understand why they spend so much. I'm a really nice guy in person and can easily get people to give their reasons without being judgmental

Once there is a payment layer built into the metaverse the be a wide range of ways to earn money that can be a lot of dollars that just don't make any sense to those not in.

Is not a book but if you can have a website you should try to put ads on it, I'm working with Adipolo and it's making me very happy

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Profit there is far more opportunities in the abundance of this era . That allows many things to be done that just where not possible.

There are so many people need to develop self awareness first and only put time into those things they will enjoy working on . Once they figure out how to enjoy work.

As a non employee my definition of work is the things you do to produce something or achieve a result.

Employees add the element of a place to go and time used to do work or be at work.

I also have a preference to have technology provide as much of the actual effort as possible

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Great post!! Not sure how relevant it would be and perhaps there's an updated version of it updated to today's social media world....but the book that changed my life I read 19 yrs ago was 'Multiple Streams of Internet Income' by Robert Allen. A quick Amazon search gave me at least 2 editons and he even put out a CD edition. Might be dated but Im sure there is very useful baseline info. Good Luck!

Making money is not a problem...

you can go out tomorrow and make money.

Do you build websites? Have you gone business to business and asked?

Do you write? Have you gone business to business and asked?

Making money isn't the problem...the problem is doing it.

You can stand on the corner and sell pencils and make money. You can sell flowers on the corner and make money. You can stand on the corner and sell anything and make money.

The problem is doing it. The problem is some want to sit around and study everything there is to study until they think they have it all figured out.

You'll never have it all figured out until you get out there and start.

I could buy a simple kit tomorrow that cleans headlights and go out tomorrow and start doing it.

I could get some supplies and start cleaning houses tomorrow.

There's not a problem in how to make money..there's a problem in doing it.

Too many people are sitting around trying to study the easy fix...

quit complaining that you can't make money and get out there and do it.

Start doing something tomorrow and you'll start learning where to go from there...it's not a big secret.

The question is...do you have what it takes to do it?

Well there are different kinds of people and there's nothing a person can do if they are born that way, I think changing your mindset, some people are meant to learn in school and earn money through hard labor, there are also other people who make people work for them to earn money, if a person is born rich he/she has a huge advantage that's reality, I've been playing this game called cryptospacegame(https://www.ruju1978.com/) with my family and teaching my son's about crypto things I myself do believe it would be the next currency and teaching the next generation how they work would help them in the near future.

I think there are a lot of books you can find on the internet, it's just how hard you gonna work for it to really affect you. but I do recommend watching wolf of wall street I think you may learn something new there.

Hi Gordon,

Thanks for the reply.

Again, the hotsheet business seems like a FUN business model. As you pointed out, there are MANY possibilities and variations!

Also, as I have mentioned before, Joe Karbo got me started with copywriting -- decades ago. I read his famous "Lazy Man's Way To Riches" ads (there were two versions of it) and was hooked.

At some point, I may have to dip my toe in the hotsheet water.

John

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Gordon

Great post. I think I prefer the publisher/ publishing angle than marketing .

The internet and the models available allow for the marketing content that attempts to sell a product or several to generate its own revenue stream.

Do best laid plans & least unslain demands deserve sum kinda smoochie point?

Let's start with that las' part first.

At what point does your audience give up hope?

Mebbe there is a kinda unspoken timetable of impossibility kinda sinks plenty people into unmanifestational nowhereville.

As a hoppertimist, I would wish always for evrywan to transform their immediate potential into fyootyure communion with succor.

Evrywan has least unslain demands.

For some, these are long-held wishes ain't nevah evah gonna come troo.

For othahs, mystery of abundance rages 24/7 in their bloodstreams so they can't even see what they gaht.

Always, we are servin' the next best space for evrywan to inhabit.

Act, write, speak, breathe & dance here.

The personally acquisitional era may be givin' way to the myootyooly abundant era.

If'n it ain't -- what use are zillions of dollahs in a burned out shithole we burned out usselves cozza dollahs to do so?

Natchrlly I am minded to flush all sweet with hoobris, which is why it is essential to covah all bases ...

Fortunately I a Princess, so I get to be hand-measured by expoits.

Supah fortunately, they take account of flushed strawbs when scissorin' all the lacy stuff to size.

(For anywan considerin' this to be an immodest indulgence, plz note I am naht swingin' squidos about the place.)

Anyways ... always here for brilliant observations an' small talk 'bout bras for anywan needs 'em.

If'n you gaht a 2-in-1 offah on either, prolly I will bend ovah to accommodate your ass.

In which case, narrow the range & broaden/heighten the value of the exclusive selection SHIMMERIN' before summoned eyeballs.

Aw, see ... now I wanna LOOMINOUS PONY again.

(Nevah gaht one from Santa when I was 7, but I still hopin')

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Making money always comes down to that word many people hate and that is sales. The very best way to make money is start selling something and continue to build on it. I work with another local marketer and we sell services to local businesses as well as ebooks in a variety of niches. Once the first product gets out there and making something, you can build on that with every future product.

Also by building a list of buyers, you can continue to sell to that list. We do our very best to engage with our buyers which helps with conversions down the line.

First of all, thank you for the phone conversation a few years back, oddly enough it was like a sticky note that just keeps expanding as my knowledge increases, whereas, it has taken on much deeper meaning... although I am still an a-hole for my desire to build online is still stifled by my pursuits of multiple fields of study.

Even with nearly 25 years of self-employment and having made decent money (*billing a low 6 figures annually for much of my 35 years working) it too, has shifted into areas I can no longer find the respect, earnings, or exchanges to hit those goals offline.

I have delved deep into many fields of study such as psychology, philosophers, Hermetica, Kybalion, and about 30 books I devoured just this year that are painting a much bigger or heightened view as was similar to what you mentioned on the phone concerning getting up and the steps required to succeed at anything be it a planned vacation or building a business.

In my honest opinion the difference often concerns rewriting your sub-conscious which I am in the thick of now, since exploring modeling, framing, neuro-linguistical programming (*NLP), and even hypnosis, to truly understand the habitual routines people fall victim to, as have I for 35 years of habits, addictions, and failing to recognize the underlying patterns causations and the effects it has in the external pursuits we choose to pursue.

I am forever the student, seldom the teacher, but I sincerely found what once appeared to be all a bunch of "woo-woo bs" like I often refer to religions (*not to offend anyone, I believe in the All, Source, or God for lack of a better definition) - but some of the dogma is so wrong philosophically, such as; s/he who seeks knowledge will be punished... doesn't exactly compliment the Western Philosophy (*Christianity that I was raised) - I do not denounce ANY master teachers, not even Jesus... but, damn if I can comprehend much of the dogma or fallacies projected on even the most devout believers in a higher power, force, or whatever the individual defines it as being, if anything or nothing.

I like to think we need only to model, mirror, and frame our future pursuits by studying the masters, experts, and trusted professionals in ANY field be it copywriting, marketing, biology, philosophy, or any field of study.

My biggest frustration concerns disciplines, I have a couple dozen disciplines from sports as a kid (*boxing/baseball), writing daily, exercising, studies, reading, etc... Now, add in the average persons' 8 second attention span, and the fact they do not teach us any real value in schools (*which I fully agree) - I dropped out in 7th grade to pursue experience and knowledge elsewhere, as I saw too many limitations in school early on in life.

But for years, I punished myself for quitting school thinking I was lacking knowledge. Once a person performs a "total recall" or has that awe-inspiring awakening (*I've had multiples, lol) - they cannot walk a path or be guided to understanding that which they cannot yet preconceive or conceive, let alone bring themselves to believe or achieve those ambitions.

It's like Alan Watts - I though the guy was a quack 7 years ago, after revisiting his philosophies and teaching of Buddha and The Bodhisattva... I feel to have found the "Middle Way" without ever knowing where or what I had stumbled upon. The Corpus Hermeticum, Hermetica, or the Kybalion as well as they define it as being "neutral" in seeking the master's throughout history.

Money loves speed, but most people are not prepared, educated, or disciplined to know what to do with more money if they had quicker access to it. My 27 year old son is a typical example of today's youth, he has no direction, no disciplines, and has no desire outside his girlfriend, video games, and maintaining a bare minimum job... he just got a check for $65k from a minor car accident, no real injuries, totaled a $500 POS Mazda 3... now he's quick to burning his Mother, Myself, and his family, no reciprocity, respect, or concern for anyone now that he hit a lottery ticket of sorts! He refuses to take any advice, and he will likely be broke in a year (or less), though I prefer him to invest some of that money... full well knowing; he won't.

Point being, even if we took all the money, divided it equally amongst everyone in the world, within a short period of time that money would go right back to the 5% who succeed, whilst the 95% struggle, which I have and currently know those financial hardships as well... despite all my well laid plans to get back up and stay there!

People need to educate themselves, most will not.

I'll respond to the 2022 plan soon... as I may be cancelling a 29 year relationship with my significant other, familiy members (*my son for one), and anyone who does not resonate on the frequency I reside which requires knowledge, not sitting on your ass waiting for shit to fall from the sky as many do as well, I'm surrounded by it right now and keep providing for their needs whilst negating my own necessities, which I have done for nearly 30 years to date... with zero reciprocity from the monkey bunch... it's like a Kipling book at this point, they were raised by societal animals, not us parents who worked 80 -100 hour work weeks for most of their lives! - It gets exhausting!!!

Art

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People with long term thinking are pretty rare in a culture built on planned obsolescence. If we get into any factors that would increase the amount of wealth people build. It planning and execution on a longer term scale.

Anyway I hope everyone had a good Christmas yesterday it was very good for me .

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If I buy a bread machine I use that bread machine and save far more money over time than the cost of the bread machine. Same with a coffee maker. Hell I can make pizza dough and have the machine pay for itself in 2 weeks and have better pizza. But I have no interest in opening a pizza shop .


I throw laundry in a laundry machine to wash my clothes don't need to open a laundry mat.

Now if I can find a way to make money while I drink alcohol again

If I went into my long term from where I am it getting 5- ten acres of land growing a bunch of fruit trees and othe crops and setting up several glamping sites (glamorous camping) so there is high end camping mixed with organic produce and fruits. And I will still be able to spend part of the year traveling.

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Whenever I return to this forum, I am blown away by the number of people who are openly sharing what amounts to an entire business model just within the comments and throughout a ton of old and some newer threads here at The WF.

Still, I find it equally frustrating and exciting to know what I have already learned is probably more than good enough to crank out a few reports, build up a targeted buyers list, and maintain communications with those who are both thinkers and doers.

At times, it can be intimidating when life throws those curve balls and we step up to the plate in the bottom of the 9th, bases are loaded, we are down by 3 runs, there's 2 outs, and it is the final inning, do or die time, and yet... that voice inside screams; "if you don't blast this next pitch out of the park and hit a grand slam, you will be the ONE everyone will blame for losing the world series!"

Meanwhile, it is far less of a task to imagine making $100k in the next 3-5 years from a decent report.

I have been on a Rich Schefren kick lately, and although I am not subscribed as a paid member to his SOW or Strategic Profits, the free stuff he gives away in his recent lives, blows my mind. The guy wrote a BILLION DOLLAR sales letter for Agora, WTF? - I cannot bring myself to conceive myself doing anything near that in 25 sales letters, let alone in one fowl swoop.

The fact, he too gave away I believe 7 reports in one year, and turned the backend into over $7M - gives me chills to think, I could be happy with %5 of that (*$350,000) in the next year or two defines one of two things;

1.) My ability to conceive myself playing at those levels is absent and my confidence in myself must suck!

or...

2.) The odds are so unlikely that a person without prior training, skillsets, and/or some serious mentoring is highly unlikely to hit that level of success in 5 years, let alone one year! (*Not trying to sound negative, as he is proof it can be done)>

It's like listening to John Henry Bohnam play drums in Led Zeppelin or any great musician, I respect what they bring to the table, but most people probably never realize the obsession, disciplines, and 10's of thousands of hours successful people invested in order to achieve such levels of success.

I need a template or something, cause when I write it's as if I am out of body and someone else is at the helm, and that shit creeps me out! I don't know where it comes from as it feels to be a blessing and a curse soiled in an obsession for freedom, not money!

Yet, until I can sort out how to be free without money, I damn sure better not keep striking out in the bottom of the 9th, cause those cheerleaders, railbirds, and/or fans of mine (*family and friends) constantly remind me how I am wasting my time, and they are pissed I cannot hand them their own freedoms, go figure!

It's all a test, I suck at believing; if people are this wicked in the humble seats, what would it be like trying to entertain at the multi-million dollar levels of play. I can only guess, it gets easier once you strap in and get you head in the game, mine's stuck in the library, not chasing "Hairy Puter, Golden Snatches, or living some fantasy of waving a magic wand and turning dirt to gold... even though, I spent a quarter century building pools and watched people get rich off off getting paid to dig the pools and then got paid the drop the dirt off in another buyers yard, so they were running what I call a toll plaza with money on both ends!

To know is one thing, to do is another.

But, I too believe it takes two or more to sincerely manifest anything worthwhile and to date finding ONE person to trust is getting a bit scarce!

Unfortunately true .In school they dont teach you about making money instead just to get a job .I find these days you dont need school if you want to make money .I cant find all the education i need online

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Holy Mother of... sweet Jesus and a side of Jimmy Dean Double-Smoked Applewood Bacon Batman!

WOW! - I could literally moonwalk on the Bermuda Triangle before I can respond accordingly to the last three responses you just dropped... you are going to earn somebody a double-coma club award with the wisdom you just laid out in 3 entire blueprints!

Yeah, I see jobs before they start. I too can wire a 3-way paddle switch with dimmer, a whole house, or install a new 200 - 400 amp panel, as well as define gravity fed plumbing systems, run gas propane torches to a private hot tub in a V.I.P. specialty salon for men and women, and install a new Badger disposal unit... that's not the problem.

Yes, you nailed it, $10k custom marble bath, full tear out, new install in 2 weeks... took a little longer due to a genius middle man who knows diddly about skilled trade... but has a God-complex, too many testosterones, steroids', and the weed wasn't helping his cause...

Nailed it... contractor sells $15k discounted job to Poker Buddy - a school teacher, he; the contractor (*Licensed GC) takes 35% commission, God man has $6500, he spends $2500 he has to provide in materials the homeowner didn't purchase (raw building mats) - I step in knock it out (in what would've been 14 days start - finish) but took 20, due to incessive nuances by middle man, he pays me $3000... complaining the whole way through, trying to micro-manage an experienced artist! *NO BEUNO!!!

Don't get me wrong if I was pulling down $1500 per week, I'd be alright. But I purchased a New Ridgid 8" tile saw with stand $600, a double-bevel sliding miter with stand $600, and of course, another $150 or so in blades, bit, and basic essentials... before the 1099, to wit; I earned a whopping $1650 before taxes, no gen lia, no LLC, no workman's comp, BUT my tools paid for themselves in one job, - Who-Hoo, what a fun ride!

In reality, even without deducting tools that guy tangled me up for nearly 150 hours for $3000 (*$20 per hour) before tools, gas, and the taxes (*1099) - which equals out to $10 per hour!

My only option is to rise above the contractor, as I have no intentions at my age of getting a GC license or Swimming Pool Contractors license...

The only logical conclusion would be;

Line em' up, knock em' down, automate the flow, and clone the hell out of an automated system with total controls over the assets, the ads, the software, the database, and of course, the clients I choose to ship MONEY on the frontend, and bill them a monthly recurring service fee on the backend on a 30 day, revolving in-house credit, just like the local wholesalers did for the pool companies and contractors I would load up and install materials for back in the day, religiously!

Difference being $20 per hour back then, a hundred or so hours invested, and a cost of 35% to 40% would give an honest working man/woman a tidy $60k - $65k per year foundation, not including other side hustles, gigs under the table, or other income streams - like storage auctions, antiquities, and banking cheddar slinging used goods acquired for pennies, when all else was slow. That's done since the television broadcasted everyone can get rich, just buy storage auctions, it was lucrative before that tv show! - They made bank, I lost bank!

Everything you said, I've done can be converted into dollars with compounded interest, it kind of freaks me when it illuminates as such.

Perfectly, understand that the reports will start the ball rolling, and if that goes well allow me to start building capital to invest in bigger and similar "controllable assets" or as some refer to them as I.P.s (*Intellectual Properties) and outcomes, at least better than $20 per hour before costs!

I know my fear now, which I didn't really know how to identify then, when I spoke with Gordon some 5 years ago and the wisdom he shared in that brief phone conversation, it made total sense to me then... I just didn't know what was holding me back was closer to home than I looked, in fact, it was more scripted in my sub-conscious than I realized, and I have always identified as an awake and consciously aware being, unlike many today.

TBC...

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I would suggest you read the book called The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel. Be sure to share your feedback here. I will wait for your response.

@Gordon

I am definitely putting that quote somewhere - "expectations move slower than reality" pretty much sums up how most conceive or process success/failure.

When I felt to be successful -or- believed to be in hot pursuit of achieving greater personal or financial success, my expectations exceeded my reality, as certain measures cannot be weighed accurately, until one fully grasps the concept:

It is difficult to impregnate, impress, or influence anyone who has "no data on-file" from their mind's library of existing knowledge... to a path they have not yet explored, walked, or experienced. Though, the mind has the full capacity to override such limited beliefs, fears, or insecurities, as the mind knows not the difference between reality and fantasy.

So as we head out as warriors to conquer any obstacles, or set sail across those blue oceans of infinite possibility, and/or openly choose to explore beyond the paths of least resistance (*where often the heavily trodden paths contain the least amount of vital or useable resources) is likened to a barren woman seeking a non-existent cure to remove her ailment or stalling her pursuit of child bearing... forgive such example, seemed befitting to our mind's inability to separate reality from fantasy - be it for better or worse.

Perhaps a better example is the desire to remove some else's pain as so not to watch them suffer, be it an addiction, affliction, self-appointed, or edgewise and having that person almost hate you for attempting to save them from themselves - I have lived both sides of that wall... neither could be any bolder or more profound, than the original quote above, as some of us carry those burdens without warrant our entire lives awaiting change in others or ourselves, that reality by far is slow to meet our initial expectations - more often than not!

[edit] Short-term memory sucks, I fell asleep listening to a Wayne Dwyer book and before I passed out, I was shocked that he, like Bruce Lipton are basically speaking on the same biological frequency and philosophy, now it seems my duty to discover who began the teachings they both share almost identically??? - little time and research, often leads to the seeds that sprout greatness. For every wise teacher requires eager disciples.

It's like, [B]The Kybalion audiobook (*Ancient Hermetic teachings)/B], makes me feel as if, Napoleon Hill studied more than just Andrew Carnegie and other brilliant minds, as the term; "master key" may appear just random occurrence as words at time do, but I think the man went way back and dug deep to produce his 17 principles of success!

I know it might sound cliche by now but I'd have to go with rich dad Poor dad it always does the trick , I mean from the moment I applied it's information it pivoted my entire thought frame on finances and taught me that money shouldn't be worked for rather it should work for you in other words don't exchange your time for money instead build value assets that can slowly pay you passively and that's the key too true financial freedom

So many valid points manifest in these threads, I sincerely wonder WHY - I stepped away from this forum for a few years, even if I never do build the blueprints for the "networks and ideas" - I have outlined and attempted to acquire the SKILLS to apply as savidge4 stated above. There too, it is reassuring to hear others openly speak of the differences between "ASSETS" and the "SKILL SETS" of making money or having the means to recover in what HISTORY suggests will do exactly as it has in the past, and industries will suffer, assets will decrease in value, and yet, I undervalued the biggest ASSET of all - sharing knowledge.

Nearly all knowledge can be found FREELY (*with investments of time & energy, over money - so, nothing is really FREE) - But, on this forum and across a wide swath of sites and experts in their fields - that ALREADY EXIST all over the internet - one must be able to "see through all the bs" or "discern the difference" and "negative influences" that is commonly carried by the majority - whether it was due to bad upbringings, poor training, bad memories, or a just a negative outlook in life.

For those who have long-term vision and to a degree - survival skills in nearly ANY economy - I admittedly; over obsess to minor details, as I just heard Wayne Dyer state; "Who am I to teach anyone or instruct, lead, or attempt to guide anyone else to a better way - if not a healthier way of sustaining and enhancing their life experiences/lifestyle.?"

I guess, eventually, we all have to STOP... GIVE PAUSE... maybe even REWIND a bit, and reflect at all we already do know - occasionally FAST-FORWARDING (*exploring FUTURE options) while continually pursuing those who know more than we do to navigate away from limiting our beliefs or the AVALABLE & EXISTING resources!

Knowing the difference, goes back to the "language" we use in both scenarios... as where I undervalued all that I learned about domains, hosting, FTP, autoresponders, web design, WordPress, and of course, the continual fascination I have for the "art of knowing the audience" or "filtering the audiences primary needs, wants, and/or desires." - It's not easy!!! There's no push the 'easy' button for solving the complexities within those equations!

I often attempt to "remove myself" from my writings and frequently write in "3rd party" - never fully grasping HOW? or WHY? - I prefer writing in absence of myself - for I didn't want the messages to be limited to my opinions or limits in understanding - when plenty of people remain far ahead on such paths already know, and already have experience doing - not just studying it - but applying those lessons or knowledge in a way beneficial to others in real world settings, industries, and business.

The "duality" of being "The Student" and preparing to step into ANY role of attempting to be a decent "Teacher" from real world experiences, such as savidge4, Gordon, Princess, Claude, Jonathan, Odahh, Kay, Profit, and so many others (*forgive me for not recollecting all whom I include in this mention, you too!) - have given away freely on this forum for YEARS.... makes me feel like a BAD STUDENT! - despite trying to manage 17 different roles to build what I envision!

It's tasking to continue and not RUN back to familiarity, those comfort zones, or the people, places, and things we were "under the influence" of prior!

I'm taking my time, no rush, no deadlines, and no doubt - I may be back job hunting - momentarily offline, despite having zero interest in re-visiting those arenas - but, that is the consistent motive that keeps me abreast to seeking wiser council - here, and abroad!

I too... need to limit my time here, as I get long-winded, another issue I am working on - as most excellent writers - stress the importance of every sentence, every word, the definition, and the intended messages they convey in business or on the personal interest level(s).

I certainly "DO NOT" trust blindly in the systems, economics, or where the future may lead to sustaining a respectable income - as this continuum of "theft" taking place, is not limited to money or physical assets as savidge4 mentioned, both are crucial, but knowledge supersedes most threats!

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Jus' wanna check here, but is this barf fyool still availabyool?

I ain't hung out there in an age bcs Covid -- even with no flavor noose.

What does this prove?

The Bucksfkrs gaht a huge market extends way beyond MY ass, an' good luck to 'em even though they ain't figured the WE POISON EVRYWAN tagline my experience would wanna recommend.

AND YOUR PETS.

Hey, but that would be the 2nd marketin' campaign they would nevah hire me to write.

Stoopidist thing 'bout pets is how they frickin' hopeless in most IRL sityooations.

Tellya, if'n it were down to pets alone, there would nevah even BE no Starbucks naht to want.

They would jus' hunt or get eaten, or have their brains examined by aliens, or smooch out all furry c/o the Zaaahmbie Apocalypse till all the food ran out in the stores.

Worst thing 'bout Starbucks latte?

Keepsya up all night frenzied when you actshly wanna jus' make out like a juicily calm ocean.

Hey Gordon,

I must say, you kind of stepped on my point here, that schools do not teach money management which is something that should be learned. I agree with you that "Rich Dad Poor Dad" is a great book for those wanting to learn about money management from those who have different perspectives.

I would like to add, there are other great books out there about about money and building wealth. For example, "The Millionaire Fastlane" by MJ DeMarco talks about the different methods to make money and how to speed up the process. There are many lessons that can be learned from these types of books and I think it's important for people to read them.

So these are 2 books already, and here are additional great 3 books, so now you have your 5 books, which I think it will get you somewhere great.

3. The Richest Man In Babylon, 4. The Automatic Millionaire, 5. The Millionaire Next Door.

Thanks for bringing this up, and I hope this helps!


Regards,
Adam

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Catherine Ponder's books are really, really good. She digs deep into mindset and how your thoughts and feelings tune you into money.

Ryan

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The original book I was recommended was The Richest Man in Babylon. This I did find very useful and it does predict what we are experiencing now - the ideas of automation and scaling businesses.

I see other people have recommended Rich Dad Poor Dad which is certainly a great technical manual of changing mindset from employee to entrepreneur.

These and other haloed tomes, though, are not that great in terms of providing business models for HOW to actually achieve success. The writers leave the path open to investing in their courses, fair enough.

Modern Money mindset books focus more on mastering emotions surrounding money because a lack of funds in your life is often the result of self-sabotage or limiting beliefs about deserving money to come into your life.

My two cents on the matter.

My mindset has always been that I am GOING to succeed no matter what I have to do or how much work I have to put in.

I started my online business in 2009 and struggled for a good solid year. Then I began building a list and "cracked" the code, so to speak.

It has been all uphill from there. Granted, I'm not getting rich, but I've been able to do alright online.

The bottom line is it takes a ton of work. I put in 12 hours a day 6-7 days a week. These folks who tell you that you can work 30 minutes a day are full of crap.

It takes drive, persistence, and a "never quit" attitude to make it as an affiliate marketer!

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