How do you handle failure?

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What do you do if and when you fail, and how do you move on?
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  • Profile picture of the author getseowebsite
    Fail is a part of life. When you dont have fail in your life you don't know the real feeling of success.
    When I fail then I motivate myself and keep doing hard.
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    • Profile picture of the author luciesmazanska
      Originally Posted by getseowebsite View Post

      Fail is a part of life. When you dont have fail in your life you don't know the real feeling of success.
      When I fail then I motivate myself and keep doing hard.
      very well said.
      I deal with failing like its a big part of the life and always tell myself: the one who is not failing IS NOT TRYING!!!

      Fail, learn, stand up and walk towards your dream, REPEAT
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Depending how important the 'failure' is...I usually just pick it up, dust it off, and start over.

    If it's more than 'business' - if it affects me personally - I may go off in a corner and cuss and cry for a bit....and THEN I pick it up, dust it off and start over.

    The objective is to move away from the failure as quickly as i can....there is no point in talking to others about failures endlessly or wallowing in defeat. Put it behind you or learn to live with it - and keep going.

    You move ahead, you fall behind, or you are stagnant. Not a hard choice.
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
    If we're talking about business, until and unless you fail, you're not an entrepreneur.

    The secret to handling it is to reframe the terms of success. Failure is just a tag. It's up to us how much meaning and significance we attach to it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Whether the failure is personal or business, I try to separate my thinking from the emotions (if any) to see what I learned or should've learned and what I may need to adjust for next time.

    I don't believe in the "just keep going and you'll succeed" thinking because in many cases without adjustments, the keep going part is just wasted. For example, I can be working my tail off by digging holes in my back yard, sweating all day as I keep keeping on to reach my goal. But if my goal is to do something like put up a website or sell a book, the digging will never help me. (I realize this example may be seen as silly, but I've been guilty of similar behavior.) But by learning that something isn't working or didn't work and adjusting as needed, I might have a chance if I keep keeping on.

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Failure is a temporary condition not a permanent attribute. Unless you agree to be a failure. And place the blame on you past or forces beyond your influence.

    The roadmap to success most try to follow is a fairytale that no one ever succeeds with.
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    There are different failures in business.

    Not getting that one deal? (very short term failure) To me, it's just part of the process. In fact, I deal with it the same way I deal with short term success. It's all part of the process.

    I think about the daily failures, and not the successes. The successes just mean I didn't screw it up. The failures? I think about what I did wrong, or how I misread the intentions, or situation. But I'm talking about minutes, not weeks.

    I've been like that all my adult life.

    I've only had one business failure that cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars, and a year of my life. I bought into an idea that a fellow distributor had for a business model. My whole parent company bought into the idea. It seemed so certain of success.

    Maybe 50 wealthy people changed their whole business structure. It took months before we really accepted that this thing was doomed to fail. We all lost substantial amounts of money.

    It set back my retirement by a decade at least.

    But I didn't blame the guy with the idea, or the company. The guy was intelligent, sincere, helpful. His intentions were honorable.

    But this was about 30 years ago. I always knew it was my fault. My responsibility. But 30 years ago, I wasn't as knowledgeable as now. I didn't see that we were abandoning the very processes, systems, strategies that made us all wealthy in the first place.

    I think today I would see these problems before they happened.

    My business struggled and then crashed. The whole process took about a year. And then it took a year or more to build it back up.

    But in the process of failing and then returning, I learned more about selling, human nature, employees, marketing...than I ever could have in a decade of study.

    Half of fighting is knowing how to take a hard punch, and keep going.

    Added later; The reason it took so long for us to abandon our failed business idea was that we had all dismantled our successful businesses, to built the infrastructure of a new business. It took months for us to complete that process. Then warning signs appeared, mostly no sales. But the guy with the idea (who had previously rebuilt his business the same way) assured us that we were just not implementing the right way, or we weren't advertising enough. In fact,, he had the most to lose, because he had the largest business, and we all went to see how his business worked. The location was great, the building looked great. The displays were great...and his business had customers all day. The problem (that we found out later) was that there was very little actual buying happening. And the buying that happened was small dollars.

    But it was a new shiny object, and we were impressed.

    I kept (like the others) our businesses going, even after we couldn't deny that we were all losing money. We were so invested already, we needed to make it pay...so we just kept at it.

    It's been so long ago, I don't remember who said it first.....but at our annual company meeting, we found out that we were all losing money...quickly. The distributor who had the idea quit the company before then. No idea whatever happened to him.

    One thing I learned that weekend with these other distributors (Most much wealthier than me). To a man (and woman) they took responsibility for their business. They didn't blame the company, or the guy with the idea. We spent the weekend discussing how we would rebuild our businesses, start over.

    Almost no time was spent blaming others. Nobody said "Why me?" or "I don't deserve this". I was kind of proud of that group. Real entrepreneurs.
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    • Profile picture of the author Monetize
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      I've only had one business failure that cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars, and a year of my life. I bought into an idea that a fellow distributor had for a business model. My whole parent company bought into the idea. It seemed so certain of success.

      I know that you know the number one rule of investing -

      Don't invest anything that you can't afford to lose

      Hopefully that was only part of your money.

      And thankfully you were able to bounce back, most
      people could not have done that.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

        I know that you know the number one rule of investing -

        Don't invest anything that you can't afford to lose

        Hopefully that was only part of your money.

        And thankfully you were able to bounce back, most
        people could not have done that.
        Nope. In less than a year, I went from having $250,000 in the bank, and no debt...and a thriving business....

        ....to a hundred thousand in debt (credit cards mostly) and no money in savings.

        I ended up getting out of my lease, firing everyone, putting everything in storage, and starting over from scratch.

        In a few months, I had some money, and my wife was breathing a little easier. This whole thing bothered her more than me. In fact for a short time, I was afraid she might leave me over all this.

        What took so long to abandon the idea was that we were actually bringing in some money. But it was never enough to cover employee salaries and overhead. And we were living on credit cards.

        And it's not an investment as most would think of it. It was my business. And I always had control over the returns. But this time, I didn't.

        One thing that made me feel better was that nobody was making the business model work. Up until that weekend meeting with all the other distributors, I was convinced that I was just doing something wrong. It didn't occur to me that the entire business model was unworkable.

        added later; Again, this happened about 30 years ago. Of course, now it seems like just a story to tell, a minor blip. And of course, we completely built back up and much more. The only further blip we had was in 2008, when the recession hit. We lost another huge investment fund (in just a few months), and forced me to embrace internet marketing to bolster our business.

        We were actually living well even after the recession hit, but by then we were used to being far more productive and profitable. Weird how our comfort levels change.

        It's not a story that I would tell anyone except other businesspeople. No relative would ever understand the figures, let alone the business.
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  • Profile picture of the author hbeezy
    Fail forward.

    Learn from the mistakes you made and keep pushing at it or move on to something new if it's time.

    If it's something that you really want to do and you feel like it can still be done, don't let minor setbacks stop you. Keep pushing at it.

    Failure is inevitable, it all depends on how you react to it. Gotta roll with the punches.

    Some people like to fail at something every week. I'd like to be one of those people.

    Even when you're working out, failure will eventually happen if you stay consistent.

    It's just a way of life. Don't let it stop you because it can be a beautiful teacher.

    Your response is dependent on what you do going forward.
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  • Profile picture of the author Monetize
    I don't really look at certain situations as a failure.
    Things don't always work out like I planned but
    that's not necessarily a failure that I'm going to
    blame myself about.

    In business, if you are a serial entrepreneur that
    is always coming up with new ideas, trying out
    various strategies, new ways of making money
    you read in a book, or some guru is doing it, or it
    came to you in a dream, that's a chance you take
    when you try something new. Sometimes things
    work out and sometimes they do not, it's a part
    of life.

    I have developed several proprietary things that
    work swimmingly, but then every once in awhile
    a method that I thought would be fantastic is a
    dud. Most times nobody even knows about it
    but me so it makes no difference.

    For example, I developed an online ad system
    that is killer. And the beauty of it is that it's so
    darn simple, it's like falling off a log. But as far
    as I can tell, I'm the only one doing it. I've been
    using that system for twenty years and it's
    still working.

    Anyway, whenever I have any type of setback,
    I just drive on and try it a different way or do
    something else until it works.
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    • Profile picture of the author Serene Carmen
      Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

      For example, I developed an online ad system
      that is killer. And the beauty of it is that it's so
      darn simple, it's like falling off a log. But as far
      as I can tell, I'm the only one doing it. I've been
      using that system for twenty years and it's
      still working.
      Interested in hearing more about this if you are able to share?
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  • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
    Originally Posted by WF- Enzo View Post

    What do you do if and when you fail, and how do you move on?
    Just wondering.
    What do you do if what you are doing isn't working?

    What do you do when you try something and it fails?

    How do you know if your attempt at something isn't working?

    What are your parameters for calling what you did, a failure?

    As we see from the post already, fail means something different to each of us.

    Today, a participation trophy is given to everyone (at some events, schools, organizations) so failure was reframed and maybe a generation or so, doesn't even know what it means?

    As for business, I found great relief and satisfaction when I worked for SCI (Ben Suarez) who had a billion dollars of PROOF, that only 1 in 7 attempts, even by the pros, would work. Which meant they failed 6 times or more before getting a winner.

    But it only takes one winner, to make up for all the failed attempts.

    GordonJ

    P.S. Claude, your WF participation trophy is being assembled, and for only 19.95 you can have it custom engraved, OK? HA!
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  • Profile picture of the author nicenet
    I don't cry over split milk when I fail. I realize I did something wrong. So, I re-strategize or try another thing.
    I hope you bounce back.
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  • So ... we sayin' spilt milk is a blessin'?


    I guess it is a question of matchin' vessel to flooid.


    Which kinda what gets whatevah where it's needed?
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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post

      So ... we sayin' spilt milk is a blessin'?


      I guess it is a question of matchin' vessel to flooid.


      Which kinda what gets whatevah where it's needed?
      I'm going to shift from odahh to hangover

      Who cares if the glass is half empty or half full. How easy is it to refill the glass

      Claude I hope you are not dependent on investments in index funds at this point.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by Odahh View Post


        Claude I hope you are not dependent on investments in index funds at this point.
        Why? What do you know about index funds that I don't?
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        • Profile picture of the author Odahh
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          Why? What do you know about index funds that I don't?
          I don't know what you know about index funds

          Besides that they have been great over the last 40 years while the market has gon from under 3k in 1980 to over 35,000 now

          Prices can perpetually rise forever

          Junk bonds where great in the 80's , internet stock where wonderful in the 1990s , mortgage back securities where great in the 2000 because real estate never crashed around the entire cyst the same time

          And index funds are great after a 40 year bull market

          I think gold was the thing in the 1970s
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          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
            Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

            I don't know what you know about index funds

            Besides that they have been great over the last 40 years while the market has gon from under 3k in 1980 to over 35,000 now

            Prices can perpetually rise forever

            Junk bonds where great in the 80's , internet stock where wonderful in the 1990s , mortgage back securities where great in the 2000 because real estate never crashed around the entire cyst the same time

            And index funds are great after a 40 year bull market

            I think gold was the thing in the 1970s
            All my money is in an index fund. And I'm keeping it there.

            A few things I know.

            In the last 4 years, our fund has paid out an average of 21% per year.

            From 1921, our index fund has grown an average of 11% a year. Even if it just grows at 8% (when we start taking money out) our fund will only increase in value.

            This of course is long term.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jamell
    Failure is apart of life and i know that I am not immune to it .Yes failure is tought to embrace sometimes but what I learn from it is more important.
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    To me Failure is so important. It helps you grow and take a personal inventory of who you are and where you're at and where you need to be.

    If everything was a Success in Life I honestly do not think people would be as Successful as they are.

    Personally, failures have strengthened me and made me that much tougher and better.

    It all goes back to the principle of no pain no gain, imho
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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by discrat View Post

      To me Failure is so important. It helps you grow and take a personal inventory of who you are and where you're at and where you need to be.

      If everything was a Success in Life I honestly do not think people would be as Successful as they are.

      Personally, failures have strengthened me and made me that much tougher and better.

      It all goes back to the principle of no pain no gain, imho
      Failures have taught me the value of negative preparation. And it has probably saved my life a few times

      If you are going to do something others have done. You pay attention to the stuff the went wrong for them and listen to what to do if that goes wrong for you and how to avoid it.

      What can go wrong and what to do when it happens or how to avoid it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by discrat View Post

      To me Failure is so important. It helps you grow and take a personal inventory of who you are and where you're at and where you need to be.

      If everything was a Success in Life I honestly do not think people would be as Successful as they are.

      Personally, failures have strengthened me and made me that much tougher and better.

      It all goes back to the principle of no pain no gain, imho
      i believe that completely.

      I've met, and known of, people that never fail. But they have never failed because they started out with a huge cushion...money from their parents...and a continued "Bailing out" if they lost anything. their failures were made to look like successes. And people around them acted like these people were invincible.

      These people never developed insight...never developed strength. If you have nothing to push against, you atrophy.

      When I said earlier that I only had one business failure, I was talking about major failures that change lives.

      When I was selling in people's homes, about half of the people didn't buy. My continued improvement was only because I could see those momentary failures as instructive.

      And they were only instructive because I took responsibility for those results.

      If you are selling and miss a sale, most salespeople either blame the customer, the economy, or their company. The problem with that, is that you cannot learn anything if you blame something outside yourself for your momentary failure.

      I always assumed I did something wrong. Even when I got the sale, I assumed I made mistakes. I would study what happened, and how I could improve the next time.

      That is a slow arduous process, spanning decades.

      And when I meet "self made men" and "self made women", their stories are remarkably the same. Slow progress over time, constant struggle, eventual improvement and success. We all have scars.

      Everyone falls down. But you aren't a failure until you say you were pushed.
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

    Why? What do you know about index funds that I don't?
    We had an investment colomist in a well known paper, who loved those things, or he always said, "buy a index fund, throw it in your sock drawl, and when you retire you will be rich".

    He also knocked individuals who made a lot on the Stockmarket, so naturally l only read his articles for a laugh.


    But how do l handle failure, let's see, l tend to get over scammers but not liars, i see the irony in punishment for breaking rules that become all the rage, and know that the Stockmarket, especially the US one, is capitalism in its truest form, and it will tear your persona off of you, in no time at all.

    Individuals who master it, become wealthy and individuals who don't lose everything.

    The key thing about it, is you have to learn to manage your feelings, as, when you make a lot and lose a lot, you make it personal, but it is not emotional, or the Stockmarket doesn't give a s...t, whether you are investing your last cent or are rich, it only cares about, investors emotions, earning reports, P/E ratios, volume and such.

    So when l lose, l have to try again, and learn from that, and when l lose often, it sucks, but l am learning more, so in the future l should lose less and earn more.

    There is also failure in losses, especially big ones, but you get used to big investments over time, and tend to build on the gains you have made and keep, during the learning phase.

    "It is not personal, it is business".

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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      But how do l handle failure, let's see, l tend to get over scammers but not liars,
      I see your point. Because scammers are not liars, and liars don't scam people.

      You have no idea how glad I am that you are posting.
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I see your point. Because scammers are not liars, and liars don't scam people.

        You have no idea how glad I am that you are posting.
        I can't argue with what he said. But I have read it a few times and can't understand.

        While I fully understand why you have money in index funds. Maybe the market can perpetually increase for another 10 or 20 years.

        And you are fully committed to the long term but in the case their is a prolonged market downturn. How far down or for how long before the masses who got into this safe invest . Abandon indexes as they start to see loses.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          I can't argue with what he said. But I have read it a few times and can't understand.
          You can't understand it because it was nonsensical. I was joking in my reply.



          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          While I fully understand why you have money in index funds. Maybe the market can perpetually increase for another 10 or 20 years.

          And you are fully committed to the long term but in the case their is a prolonged market downturn.
          How far down or for how long before the masses who got into this safe invest . Abandon indexes as they start to see loses.
          My guess is that we will see steady increases and occasional huge dips. Just 16 months ago, the fund took such a dive that we lost all our gains for the last 10 years. All that rebounded. Just like it always does.

          The index fund I'm in perfectly match the entire market.

          I'm not assuming any huge prolonged increases. If the stock market collapses, then we are all in deep trouble.

          Truly, it's not something I think about. Even if the stock market permanently loses half its value, Cheryl and I will be OK. I can't speak for anyone else.
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          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            You can't understand it because it was nonsensical. I was joking in my reply.


            Truly, it's not something I think about. Even if the stock market permanently loses half its value, Cheryl and I will be OK. I can't speak for anyone else.
            When ever you close your store you will have a project that produces what ever income you would need anyway.

            Or what ever productive activity to avoid boredom.
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          • Profile picture of the author savidge4
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            The index fund I'm in perfectly match the entire market.

            I'm not assuming any huge prolonged increases. If the stock market collapses, then we are all in deep trouble.

            Truly, it's not something I think about. Even if the stock market permanently loses half its value, Cheryl and I will be OK. I can't speak for anyone else.
            As you get uh hmmm older... HOW you invest changes. I am still very aggressive with my investing, BUT I am am starting to diversify into more "Safe" investments such as Index funds etc. Its just smart investing in my book ( sorry Claude ) for someone your age.

            The days of risk and reward are over - as you get older, and you look for steady as she goes.
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

              As you get uh hmmm older... HOW you invest changes. I am still very aggressive with my investing, BUT I am am starting to diversify into more "Safe" investments such as Index funds etc. Its just smart investing in my book ( sorry Claude ) for someone your age.

              The days of risk and reward are over - as you get older, and you look for steady as she goes.
              I appreciate the sentiment. But it isn't because I'm smart, it's because I'm not interested in learning about investments. It's sheer laziness that tells me to invest in an index fund. Plus, I know the track record of the fund.

              This morning, my wife said "We have to diversify our investment, and not have our eggs all in one basket".

              I said "Honey, our mutual fund is 500 baskets, we just send the money to one place, and they send the money to the individual companies. It's already pretty diversified"..
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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    Wow ― some amazing advice and information in this thread. : ) A special "Thank You" to Mr. Whitacre for sharing his experience. My 2C would be something I said some time ago:

    "The more you fail, the more you learn. And, the more you learn,
    the more you succeed."

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  • Profile picture of the author savidge4
    Failure is such a strong word... or should I say many many people give it such a strong meaning.

    If you look up the definition of the term... It kinda goes from failing to do X to say structural "Failure"

    I think the connotation that most people associate to "Failure" is in line with Structural Failure. A collapse.. the end of, etc

    You simply cant have "Success" without failure. Anyone that A/B tests uses failure to find success... An average test I run might have 20 30 test Failures before we fall into something that meets our expectations. But the question is are all of those steps failures.. or stepping stones to success?

    Failure in my book, is quitting. and even with that I dont mean you did everything you could and it didnt work out, I mean you did something once and throw up your arms and say I will never get this to work, and quit.

    An extreme example... you are at the store and some guy collapses and is having a heart attack. You try to revive the guy with mouth to mouth, but in the end he doesnt pull through ( A true life story on my part ) Is this a failure? is it my fault the guy didnt make it? I dont think so in the least, I did my part, and did the best to my ability. Im not going to say this experience haunts me, but I still to this day want to think I may have done something wrong.- or could have done something more. ( for the record I did keep him resuscitated til the Paramedics got there and he made it to the hospital but passed hours later )

    So if that is not a failure what is? missing an appointment and not contacting the person you are meeting - I would say that is a fail.

    Testing something and getting worse results? I dont call this a fail... a negative result is part of the process. BUT if you stop after that result and dont move forward... That is failure.

    Ive had business dealings that fell apart, and even with this wouldnt consider it a failure. There are some instances where there might have been a variable that was missed or under calculated, and I guess those would be "Failures", but you cant succeed if you dont try... its the not trying part ( for me ) that is the failure, and NOT the it didnt work out part..

    I could have been a millionaire if I.... is a failure. I spent 10K to make X work and tried everything I could but in the end the economics of the project didnt work out... wouldnt call this a failure.

    If "Failure" is not doing something, then the opposite of failure would be persistently going through the motions towards success.. even tho in many cases those motions appear to be failures - but how could they be failures if the end result is success? stepping stones to a gaol, be it they are positive or negitive are still getting you towards the success at the end.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post


      I could have been a millionaire if I.... is a failure.
      Yup. It's interesting how many statement, by themselves tell you everything about a person's potential to create any real wealth (except from constant saving)

      "If I had a million dollars I'd..." is always followed by giving it away...to people just like themselves.

      "They should..." I've heard this for decades from intelligent, wonderful in laws and other relatives. Who is "They"? Why is it their responsibility? Why aren't you saying "I should"...or better "I am".

      "I would have been a millionaire if I hadn't been cheated out of..." or "if I had won that court case".

      Anyway, where else am I going to complain about the "Normals"?
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Yup.

        "I would have been a millionaire if I hadn't been cheated out of..." or "if I had won that court case".

        Anyway, where else am I going to complain about the "Normals"?
        The so called normals. Tend to only see famous currently rich people or the messed up children of rich people. As the functional children of rich people are boring.

        The only way 99.5 percent of people will ever be millionaires is to make over six figure a year and save and invest a big chunk of that . Or save and invest so much ever month for 45 years
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          The so called normals. Tend to only see famous currently rich people or the messed up children of rich people. As the functional children of rich people are boring.

          The only way 99.5 percent of people will ever be millionaires is to make over six figure a year and save and invest a big chunk of that . Or save and invest so much ever month for 45 years
          It's also a matter of "How do you manage the money?"

          Lottery winners, lawsuit winners, inheritors of wealth (not involved in the building of that wealth). They tend to lose that money in a generation.

          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          The worst failures are arrogant people who never even realize they where wrong.

          Living in a bubble of their own reality no one else is even capable of understanding.
          Hey! I'm standing right here!
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          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            It's also a matter of "How do you manage the money?"

            Lottery winners, lawsuit winners, inheritors of wealth (not involved in the building of that wealth). They tend to lose that money in a generation.
            That has been written about for as long as their has been money and writing. Only about twenty percent of people can manage to hold onto the money long term.

            I suspect there is a lot more hidden wealth in the country than the numbers suggest. By far many so called normal people. Have no idea of the value of things around them or how to monetize that wealth.
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  • Profile picture of the author Seattle Mike
    It's all learning, people don't talk about them much but the vast majority have had plenty of failures. What do they say, "You aren't truly great at something until you spend 2 years or 5,000 hours doing it"

    No matter what it is, you just keep learning new ways to do it.

    My key to forget failures is to always be working on 5 different projects. They may be just brewing in the background but they are written down to use in the future. You just jump on the next one. Nobody else cares, they got there own problems.
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

    I see your point. Because scammers are not liars, and liars don't scam people.

    You have no idea how glad I am that you are posting.
    Scammers steal your money, liars make promises, they don't live up to.


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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      Scammers steal your money, liars make promises, they don't live up to.


      You have no idea, how many times Kurt proves me right!
      The worst failures are arrogant people who never even realize they where wrong.

      Living in a bubble of their own reality no one else is even capable of understanding.

      I am crazy the last thing my shrink told me was there was nothing more he could do for me.

      Scammers tell people lies they want to believe are true. Liars get caught in cycles of having to tell more lies to back up the lies they have told
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

    The worst failures are arrogant people who never even realize they where wrong.

    Living in a bubble of their own reality no one else is even capable of understanding.
    I see a lot of those sort of examples lately.

    I am crazy the last thing my shrink told me was there was nothing more he could do for me.

    Scammers tell people lies they want to believe are true. Liars get caught in cycles of having to tell more lies to back up the lies they have told
    Unfortunately, they trip over their lies, with bigger lies, to the point of insanity, but not being self aware, they don't see any contradictions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Serene Carmen
    Originally Posted by WF- Enzo View Post

    What do you do if and when you fail, and how do you move on?
    Not sure who said, "Fail early, fail often, fail forward". If you aren't failing you aren't challenging yourself, but its important not to repeat the same mistakes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew North
    Has anyone here bought into bitcoin? Im in my 30s and dollar cost average into it every month, the rest is in an index fund thats mostly in stocks so I can ride out the peaks and valleys until retirement. Stocks will make a gradual reversal in my opinion since they're overvalued. but that's just cuz I read too much Zero Hedge
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    • Profile picture of the author Serene Carmen
      Originally Posted by Matthew North View Post

      Has anyone here bought into bitcoin? Im in my 30s and dollar cost average into it every month, the rest is in an index fund thats mostly in stocks so I can ride out the peaks and valleys until retirement. Stocks will make a gradual reversal in my opinion since they're overvalued. but that's just cuz I read too much Zero Hedge
      Both stocks and Bitcoin will both continue to go up (as long as money printing continues as it currently is) - my opinion, not financial advice.
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Serene Carmen View Post

        Both stocks and Bitcoin will both continue to go up (as long as money printing continues as it currently is) - my opinion, not financial advice.
        Printing of money doesn't matter how easily people can borrow money to purchase or invest drives up prices

        There are and will be a lot of price increase because of supply issues and increases cost of shipping
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        • Profile picture of the author Serene Carmen
          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          Printing of money doesn't matter how easily people can borrow money to purchase or invest drives up prices

          There are and will be a lot of price increase because of supply issues and increases cost of shipping
          The amount of money printed in turn impacts the amount of money in circulation, which in turn drives up prices.
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          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
            Originally Posted by Serene Carmen View Post

            The amount of money printed in turn impacts the amount of money in circulation, which in turn drives up prices.
            When there is a finite amount of goods and services available. More money chasing after fewer things drives up prices.

            But many goods and services we have are not in limited amounts and the price is determined by the supply chain.

            Explain why prices of shipping from China to La use went from 1000-1500 usd to 20,000-30000 currently in terms of money printing when the was little to no increase or far smaller increases in other shipping rates

            And it is only money printing that will increase the cost to the end consumer and not the massive increase in shipping costs
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            • Profile picture of the author Serene Carmen
              Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

              When there is a finite amount of goods and services available. More money chasing after fewer things drives up prices.

              But many goods and services we have are not in limited amounts and the price is determined by the supply chain.

              Explain why prices of shipping from China to La use went from 1000-1500 usd to 20,000-30000 currently in terms of money printing when the was little to no increase or far smaller increases in other shipping rates

              And it is only money printing that will increase the cost to the end consumer and not the massive increase in shipping costs
              Not sure what you mean by little or no increase in money printing?

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              • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                Originally Posted by Serene Carmen View Post

                Not sure what you mean by little or no increase in money printing?

                Ok my fault you misread that explanation that the massive increase in shipping costs from China to La on money printing. When there was little to no increase in shipping rates at other points.

                The increase in those shipping cost will be a bigger factor in price increases on many goods than the money supply.

                The mechanism to increase the money supply tend to be to lend more money into existence through the banks. And you can track price increases of things bought with debt . Real estate higher education.

                With the stock market companies borrow money to buy back stock and in the last 18 month the amount of margin investments has gone up almost every month nearly doubling the total margin debt.
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                • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
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                  You can turn failures into valuable content for others to leverage an learn from.

                  Also not exactly failures but "mishaps"

                  Like when Pat Flynn of Smart Passive Income got his website hacked he shared every single detail on how he recovered, how it probably happened, and what he will do differently.

                  You can also find people who had thier crypto wallets drained an how it may have happened an how to avoid.
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                • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
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                  Sometimes we wake up an wonder where did the time go an where is the "do over" button.

                  But if you wake up an you are not in jail the hospital or the cemetary that is your fresh start permission.

                  There was a Seinfeld episode where Constanza did everything the opposite that day. Best day he ever had.

                  Even ended up with a new girlfriend because he engaged where he would have normally been shy before.

                  I think if we pay close attention to consumers at what they purchase an what they would like added or adjusted to that purchase it will give us clues.

                  Also observations like what they push to go viral we will see that sliver of opportunity that is life changing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Diego Aguirre
    Originally Posted by WF- Enzo View Post

    What do you do if and when you fail, and how do you move on?
    I count my losses, budget for next week/month, and try again.

    if I don't have any broken bones, I take a cold shower and move on
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  • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
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    Success stories cure me every time. It they did it I can too.
    Then you deep dive into the how.

    For example I saw a course that was a spectacular 50% off so that made it only a $1500 investment!

    But I went to Google and searched his name plus "Interviews" and found at least 7 very in depth interviews of him explaining his strategies

    Failures make me even more determined to find a way no matter what.

    I am a stubborn Taurus it is blessing and a curse like most things.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Changing the direction a little. What happens and how people respond when failures or massive changes outside of their control or influence. Cause thing to break down and lead to failure or setback or complete ruin.

    A lot of successful people go through such an event and it triggers something I am not exactly sure of .
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      Changing the direction a little. What happens and how people respond when failures or massive changes outside of their control or influence. Cause thing to break down and lead to failure or setback or complete ruin..
      Great question. : ) Many (most?) of the time a Person cannot control what happens to them ... However they certainly can control how they respond to what happens to them. It's not what happens in Life that is important ― it's what you do with it that counts.

      "Get busy living, or get busy dying."

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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        Great question. : ) Many (most?) of the time a Person cannot control what happens to them ... However they certainly can control how they respond to what happens to them. It's not what happens in Life that is important ― it's what you do with it that counts.

        "Get busy living, or get busy dying."


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        You might not be to blame but how you respond is on you aka your response ability.

        But there is something you realize when you lose everything. Stuff can be replaced if it really matters to you.

        Call this elitist or snobby but I generally don't care what people may be thinking about me unless I'm projecting out to others what I want them to think of me and they respond to that.

        For the most part when others are think of you they are wondering what you really think of them or what you can do for them

        Added later the only problem I run in with the projection thing is people initially think I'm a cop
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Interesting how many posts we get in a 'failure' thread...


      Call this elitist or snobby but I generally don't care what people may be thinking about me unless I'm projecting out to others what I want them to think of me and they respond to that.

      Reality is - unless you are interacting directly with another person....'people' probably are not thinking about you at all.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Interesting how many posts we get in a 'failure' thread...





        Reality is - unless you are interacting directly with another person....'people' probably are not thinking about you at all.
        That is a hard truth.

        My son once asked me (maybe he was 18 at the time) 'Dad, when I walk into a restaurant, why does everyone look at me?" He is 6' 7". He was concerned that people were staring at him because he's so tall.

        I said 'Steve, you are walking into a restaurant. The eye is drawn to movement. Next time, look at the people looking at you. You'll notice that a second later, they are going back to their business. Why? Because they no longer are thinking about the person causing movement. And every person that walks into a room, get that look. It's instinctual. they aren't think about you at all".
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      In book publishing, about 90% of the book published are "failures".

      In an initial run of 5,000 copies, the publisher may only sell a few thousand....maybe breaking even, maybe not. Only about 10% of the time does that first printing sell out quickly.

      So how do they make money with only a 10% success rate?

      They keep printing and advertising the 10% that are making money. And they stop printing and advertising the 90% that are not.
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        In book publishing, about 90% of the book published are "failures".

        In an initial run of 5,000 copies, the publisher may only sell a few thousand....maybe breaking even, maybe not. Only about 10% of the time does that first printing sell out quickly.

        So how do they make money with only a 10% success rate?

        They keep printing and advertising the 10% that are making money. And they stop printing and advertising the 90% that are not.
        I understand this concept. The venture capitalist model. Is even more crazy. .

        As long as the winners payback enough to cover the losses and make plenty of profit.

        Normals are trained to try to make the poor performed better rather than ride the winners for every bit of worth
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          I understand this concept. The venture capitalist model. Is even more crazy. .

          As long as the winners payback enough to cover the losses and make plenty of profit.

          Normals are trained to try to make the poor performed better rather than ride the winners for every bit of worth
          The only piece of advice I ever read from Dan Kennedy that I thought was silly was his advice to market in several different ways, and take the marketing methods as a whole. Cost average.

          As long as they were profitable as a whole, keep doing all of them.

          To this day, I think I must have read it wrong (although I studied it many times).

          When I was advertising more, and in multiple media, not only did each ad have to generate a profit, in each media...or they were dropped...

          Each item offer in each ad had to generate a profit, or I changed the offers. At one time, my average ad paid a monthly return of over 40 times ad cost. Now nearly everything is done online at zero cost...just a little time.

          When I would gather with groups of retailers (or any other industry), I could always tell the real losers by the way they complained about the company investing time with their biggest dealers.

          I would hear "They need to concentrate of bringing the little guys up". Of course, that always came from the littlest dealers...the ones who bought very little, but constantly complained.....especially about "Loyalty" from the main company.

          My stomach churns just thinking about these people...psychic vampires. And somehow...they always found me.
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          • Profile picture of the author discrat
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            My stomach churns just thinking about these people...psychic vampires. And somehow...they always found me.
            Like minds tend to attract each other
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            • Profile picture of the author Odahh
              Originally Posted by discrat View Post

              Like minds tend to attract each other
              Not when it comes to physic vampires .and they don't have fangs they have tentacles that dig into your flesh when the get near you and drain as much mental /emotional energy as possible. Or they will sour your energy.

              Best way to deal with them is to part has your own tentacles on and feed the energy they don't want.

              So a soft example is responding to the phrase "it must be nice" when it's seething with envy with" it's amazing sit down and I'll explain just how freaking amazing it is"
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by discrat View Post

              Like minds tend to attract each other
              Ha!

              Seriously though, your reply triggered this thought.

              Like minds attract, except for two...parasites and psychopaths.

              Parasites are people who contribute far less than they take, complain about how unfair (everything) is, wallow in self pity, only talk about their own problems. Cannot be glad for anyone else. They may make up about 1% of any population.

              Parasites hate each other, because they have to share the same group...lessening their own psychic energy draining. If they marry, it's always to an enabler...a parasitic host.

              Psychopaths are the other side of parasites. They are predators. They are the shark in the school of fish. Everyone to them is an opportunity, or an enemy.

              Psychopaths need a large group to exist in. Like sharks, there has to be at least 100 fish for every shark, or they start eating each other.
              Normals look for love, acceptance, camaraderie.

              Psychopaths look for weakness...vulnerability...opportunity.

              Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

              So a soft example is responding to the phrase "it must be nice" when it's seething with envy...

              I don't think these people feel envy for the successful. I think they feel hatred.
              Psychic vampires have one thing the treasure more than anything else...it's their story. Their tale of Woe.

              Anything that detracts from that is their enemy. Anything that threatens their "Victim status" is a threat. If they tell you their money problems, the last thing they want to hear is how to make money. They are not looking to fix their problem. Their problem is the entire reason for their existence. It's their very identity. Without their suffering...and people to offer them pity, they have no purpose.

              Added later; By the way, when you talked about someone saying "It must be nice", that statement is an absolute sign that you are talking to a psychic vampire.
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              • Profile picture of the author discrat
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                Ha!

                Seriously though, your reply triggered this thought.

                Like minds attract, except for two...parasites and psychopaths.

                Parasites are people who contribute far less than they take, complain about how unfair (everything) is, wallow in self pity, only talk about their own problems. Cannot be glad for anyone else. They may make up about 1% of any population.

                Parasites hate each other, because they have to share the same group...lessening their own psychic energy draining. If they marry, it's always to an enabler...a parasitic host.

                Psychopaths are the other side of parasites. They are predators. They are the shark in the school of fish. Everyone to them is an opportunity, or an enemy.

                Psychopaths need a large group to exist in. Like sharks, there has to be at least 100 fish for every shark, or they start eating each other.
                Normals look for love, acceptance, camaraderie.

                Psychopaths look for weakness...vulnerability...opportunity.

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                Per usual Claude is able to take a a little ribbing of an insult and turn it into a somewhat interesting diatribe. You have backbone Whitacre, I will give you that and some pretty good insight on Parasites and Psychopaths( Mine and yours fav topic to talk about for days on end, but please do not get me started you Jeffrey Dahmer
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Tran
    For me, it divides into 2 sessions. At first, my mood goes down and I'm upset because of my failure. But then, I realize that it's just a part of my journey, and I go to sum up why I fail, what I learn from that failure and continue to learn to fix my mistake and improve myself.
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  • Whatever the failure may be, I always tend to stew on it a little. Obsess about where it went wrong, how I could have saved it, how I could have avoided it.

    I obsess and talk about it my husband (poor him). When I get tired of thinking about it, maybe in a couple of days, I tell myself that it was meant to happen.

    Then I keep going.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sofia Schulz
    This is a smart question.
    I want to start saying that everyone fails, consequently it's fundamental to accept every personal failure to start dealing with it. Secondly, I think it's important to analyze the failure and the main reasons why you fail. And finally, consider what you learn from this failure and try to keep this lesson learned in mind.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mixed Pixel
    so far 90% of my projects were failures, I have a special file on my PC where I keep them safe for later. When I have no new ideas I get back to them 1 by 1 and try again with different method. Everything is possible, we just need to find the right way. 10% of projects I managed to make it happen, came from the same folder
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
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    I guess in my experience the psychic vampires I have dealt. Have been people who felt they where just better than me . And enjoyed making themselves feel better. Dragging me back down any time I climes past them.

    So I see it as some type of envy but I don't know the exact phrase for not wanting you to have better than they do or being angry others have what you can't get
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      Claude
      I guess in my experience the psychic vampires I have dealt. Have been people who felt they where just better than me . And enjoyed making themselves feel better. Dragging me back down any time I climes past them.
      I'm going to tell you something now that has been my experience when dealing with truly remarkable and gifted people.


      They don't make themselves feel better by dragging you down. Superior people are pulling for you to succeed.

      These people you are talking about are not better than you. They don't even believe they are better than you. If they drag you down (a premise I am not convinced is real), it's because of this...

      If they punish you, insult you, berate you...it's a form of defense. If they are making fun of you, it takes the negative attention off of them. It protects their self image.

      People who are higher on the social scale truly want for you to succeed. They want you to join them.

      I think you are mistaken when you say they think they are better than you. What you are describing isn't superior people, but weak, low self image people. Losers.


      If you are doing better than someone else...and are not rubbing their face in it....a human reaction is to be happy for you. If you genuinely know people that do not want you to do well, you need to lose them. They are not your friends. And if they are your relatives, they are toxic. Leave.

      Trust me, you won't miss them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Claude

    I agree with the leaving part . It's also figuring out how to identify and drive of new ones that try and get close.

    In my experience with successful people. When they in caritible mode they will halo how they can with daily need. But when you do start working to improve your situation. They will help how they can.

    But then if I leave I am leaving to go somewhere I can eventually achieve much better in some way. And people notice. I'm not where I am because of where I have been. I am moving around to get a much better idea of where I want to go next.

    Added later there are many people thoug who may not look successful. But the are not in the psychic vampire category. They just have many vampires orbiting them and are themselves naive to the drain on their potential.

    Personally I think some are redeemable but they have to learn put the work in to building a productive skill or some skill that improves their lot in life
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post


      Added later there are many people thoug who may not look successful. But the are not in the psychic vampire category.
      Psychic vampires are a very small subset of the un-accomplished.

      The vast majority of people that make a subsistence living are good hearted, friendly, generous people who either lack the ambition or the knowledge to really get ahead financially.

      The psychic vampires are a very small percentage, who's very identity revolves around them being a victim, and they blame others for everything bad in their life. They draw energy from the pity of others.
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Psychic vampires are a very small subset of the un-accomplished.

        The vast majority of people that make a subsistence living are good hearted, friendly, generous people who either the ambition or the knowledge to really get ahead financially.
        I didn't fix it but I think you meant to write lack the ambition or knowledge to get ahead.

        It is more rooted in guilt and unworthiness as they feel it requires some immoral or unethical behaviors to get ahead or build wealth.

        You have mentioned a few stories of people expressing that attitude.

        The typical model people use is the one big pie . So their mindset is around getting the piece of the pie they need. And if they take to much it is less for others to get.

        The model I use is more seeing rivers of money flowing around the world through people's hand . My role is to figure out how to put something in one hand that people put money in my hands for. First time I have tried to explain the visual.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post


          It is more rooted in guilt and unworthiness as they feel it requires some immoral or unethical behaviors to get ahead or build wealth.
          That may even be more than half the unaccomplished. But I wouldn't call them the psychic vampires. These are just people who are comfortable where they are.

          The psychic vampires are far worse. Every conversation to them is their tale of woe. It's their complete persona. If you talk about the weather, it will immediately go back to their pain. They are not jealous of the successful, but talking about success means you aren't talking about their pain.

          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          The typical model people use is the one big pie . So their mindset is around getting the piece of the pie they need. And if they take to much it is less for others to get.

          The model I use is more seeing rivers of money flowing around the world through people's hand . My role is to figure out how to put something in one hand that people put money in my hands for. First time I have tried to explain the visual.
          I think that may be the majority of regular people.

          When they talk about income inequality, to them that means that the rich are somehow taking from the poor.

          On occasion, an in-law will bring up income inequality. To them, that means the rich are making money unfairly. To me, it means the rich are doing something the poor aren't doing. They know something the poor don't know.

          There is income inequality...meaning we all don't make the same income. But when they bring it up. I say "We know the cause of income inequality. It's ambition inequality. Intelligence inequality. We earn different incomes because we don't do the same things."

          Society pays you based on the value you deliver to society. I may not like it. Many may not like it. But it's a hard truth.
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  • Great question -really. My mantra in life has been to ATTEMPT everything I think is worthy of my time and with this attitude comes an inherent risk for failure. I have failed at a couple of my projects - the first one hit me hard and it took a while for me to ACCEPT and move on from it. With age and experience, it got easier to embrace failure.

    I have a habit of documenting everything I do - I have a Master Excel Workbook of EVERYTHING I do and did - including the details of my investment portfolio, the homes I buy, businesses I own. I have a tab in the workbook that says "Wrong Moves"- where I have documented at great length what I could have done differently.

    For me, failure is an indication that I TRIED - but I also like to remember the learnings I got from the attempt. Hence, the documentation helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketerE
    Starts with the view or the meaning we put behind it!

    Did I fail or is this telling something else?
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  • Profile picture of the author morrisraymond
    Ways to Manage Failure
    • Recognise and accept your emotions. Failure hurts, at least in the first instance, and you need to accept that. ...
    • Don't make it personal. ...
    • Don't worry what anyone else will think. ...
    • Take the right amount of responsibility. ...
    Use failure as a way to improve.
    My Uncle Alexander Zingman advice me about this topic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
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    This is horribly elitist and judgmental of me . But tell people who want something done about income inequality they should only get paid the same as the person who bags groceries at a grocery store.

    And they become experts on why what they do means they get paid more money. But can not mentally process how people can be paid many times the rate they earn an hour

    The only real group in the last 30 years seeingg there incomes increase have been the top ten percent of earners for partly because they have used technology to increase their value. Where technology has reduced the value of what many hourly workers labor. But that is my highly biased explanation

    I will disagree with society determine the value of your labor. The people who pay you determin the value of what you do with complete disregard for what society would agree is the value.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

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      I will disagree with society determine the value of your labor. The people who pay you determin the value of what you do with complete disregard for what society would agree is the value.
      We aren't in disagreement. When I said "Society", I'm just talking about your clients/customers...whoever pays you.

      But the very wealthy usually provide services to large numbers of people...hence, "Society".
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      The only real group in the last 30 years seeingg there incomes increase have been the top ten percent of earners
      Yup. And there are two ways of using that information.
      1) Complain about the top 10%
      2) Become one of the top 10%.

      Did you know that for an individual to be in the top 10% of income earners in the US, it only takes about $125,000 a year.
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  • Profile picture of the author hostxprt
    Well, when I fail and if the failure is substantial, I take a few days off - watch movies, maybe go out with family or just sleep. I use a lot of music, it somehow heals me. Usually takes a week, and then I spend another week thinking what went wrong. Take up the next idea I had.


    The thing is no matter what we do, there is always a risk we would fail and recognizing that right at the start helps.


    I fail a lot though, many times and it happens again and again, until I eventually succeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author PK120
    Very difficult. Everything is shattered at failure, Hope, strengths, determination. At times you feel like quitting but you need to move on
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  • Profile picture of the author Ez Moves
    Failure is a key of success. Failure is a temporary situation not a permanent attribute. Unless you agree to be a failure. And place the blame on you past or forces beyond your influence.

    The roadmap to success most try to follow is a fairytale that no one ever succeeds with.
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  • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
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    Originally Posted by WF- Enzo View Post

    What do you do if and when you fail, and how do you move on?
    Of course there are lessons and reflection in fails.

    I quit drinking lots of times.

    But the heaviest moment was once I hit one of those milestone Birthdays and you evaluate where you actually are and where you had planned to be at that point.

    There were times when I may have been forced to ask for help but to me it was like a Startup Round or Crowd Funding for something big and with lot's of profit potential.

    But the people I asked may not have viewed it that way.

    Always try to lead with what you can do for the other person even in crisis.

    I see things a bit differently at different times. During and in retrospect.

    These days there are just too many wins to count including just being alive to dwell on fails but most definitely focus on how to avoid them as best we can.
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  • Profile picture of the author digitalstar
    Failures make you more experienced. You should use them as stepping stones for Success.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cayenne Marie
    Take it & learn from it!
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    Great question.

    Until recently, I always tried to find the rhyme or reason, causation and effects of failure, humility, and what generally constitutes embarrassment.

    Nearly a decade ago, I had wrote in one of my earlier journals; "humility is a wise teacher, once the embarrassment wears off!" - but even having scripted that statement myself, I don't think to have given much value to what it truly means.

    Strange how failure or humility has a way of relighting itself or reigniting those fires later in life to take on more significant meaning. I find that true with good literature, music, and even in some of my own musings and writings over the years, whereas, I still struggle to see the value or benefit it may have on another or others.

    With failure, I tread with causation, as most see your failures as a loss. Until people learn something from their failures and face whatever fears, insecurities, or humility that they themselves associate to those temporary losses or setbacks, they cannot help the fact; the universal inheritance often revisits us in our worst or darkest times.

    I've started embracing my failures and my humilities to start overcoming my own insecurities and prior failures as milestones of sort. I ripped some epic level comedy for like 10 hours straight a few days ago, I consider satire a vent for knowledge that needs a means to be exhausted.

    The only problem today is my JOKER is so embedded with allegory and embellishments of raw TRUTHS that the easily offended have me getting kicked off nearly all socialist media channels including having a 3 minute video flagged on TikTok for what they labeled "hate speech".

    I wasn't ripping on confused genders, picking on any one culture, or intending to be anything more than comedic in nature, but if you mention sweat shops, Venezuela, or the owner of Nike in a joke, you can bet your ass... that video was a total train wreck failure, which in-turn has me perplexed as to "what can I say today without offending myself/ or another?"

    So the 10's of hours of raw comedy video I did sit idle, as does my idea to get people's attention through comedy, satire, or attempts to mask the TRUTH as so many before me; George Carlin, John Belushi, Chevy Chase, et cetera were so wildly rewarded for their ability to just "let it go" and "let it rip".

    Thus, if people think scars are the "end all" of the pain associated to those visible and deeper cutting life experiences, we are all failing to preserve the integral means to teach others that not everything that offends us is all bad... sometimes the offended need to recognize that failure is what set people in motion to provide solutions to those before they fail, as did we all... or in the least, teach them how to manage their failures rather than mask, hide, and run from what can only be defined as "Universal Truth" or the immutable facts; people will always be offended, the question is; what are they doing about it outside bitching about how offended they've become.

    I find failure fascinating, most have closets full of failure and piles of it under their carpets, because nobody can truly handle the truth.

    The truth can indeed set you free - but it can also get you killed, so rather than tap dance on landmines, we may need to revisit history, shore up the innocent, women, children, and elderly and let the WARRIORS take the frigging helm for once!

    All the same, failure sucks initially, nobody likes failing, but cannot run from the truth, only you can determine the why, what, how, when, and where your next challenge will be met. If you carry too much of the dead weight, your journey will be a slow crawl through hell as I; myself have been known to do at times.

    Now, I see that very influence in my beloved children who run from prior failures, rather than face the TRUTH as to why they failed!

    Some things cannot be taught they need to be experienced!

    Carpe diem!
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Post enlightenment

    I don't have an answer and where we live in a less smooth world with supply lines issues worker shortages. And things being crazy.

    So much of what we do that worked but no longer work either go without or find alternatives. Failure much of the time is an event that happens between the right ear and the left ear. And steams from a false expectation of how things should work.

    Zuckerberg is still upset the space x rocket carrying Facebooks satellite failed. Spaced reimbursed Facebook and went on building rockets and designed new one that fail an cost millions of dollars.


    It more where are you willing to do things that don't work out and may fail and where do you play it safe

    If you are out of shape and decide to do 100 push ups is the fact that you may be only able to do 5 at this point a failure. Or a starting point.
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  • Profile picture of the author Old Molases
    Accept the mistake that you made and keep a note of it to not to repeat it again.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Flm
    I like the learning curve and even better if it is steep.
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnny12345
    My 3-step system is very simple:

    1) I intensely study the topic.

    2) I attempt the task... but often fail.

    3) I repeat the above process until I don't fail.

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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan S
    Failure is part of success. How to handle it? Sometimes it depends on your personality type. Some people are too emotional and give up easily, some just shrug it off and try again. Find your personality type and build on your strength in order to easily overcome failure. Those with high Fe (extroverted feeling) are going to appear the most emotional. Those with Fe in spot #1 are ENFJ and ESFJ. Those with Fe in spot #2 are INFJ and ISFJ. These four types will generally appear the most emotional.

    Those with high Fi (introverted feeling) will not necessarily appear emotional, but will experience high emotion internally. Those with Fi in spot #1 are INFP and ISFP. Those with Fi in spot #2 are ENFP and ESFP. These four types will generally experience high emotion internally.

    Least emotional:

    Those with Fe in 3rd or 4th place in their functions will generally not appear emotional, but may on occasion. These include ISTP, ESTP, INTP, and ENTP.

    Finally, those with Fi in 3rd or 4th place will keep their emotions more internal than any other types. These include INTJ, ENTJ, ISTJ, and ESTJ.
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  • Profile picture of the author VictorLoanz90
    Failure has to be accepted and handled with grace , like the old cliche saying goes what can't kill you can only make you stronger dust it off and use it as the fuel to propel you to the next level !! 2022 is our year let's give it our all and don't look back .
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  • Profile picture of the author spartan14
    Well be ambitious and this people never give up .Weak people give up soon and they complain with their sad life working all life in a 9to5 job .Ask yourself you want to live all your life like that ? If not stop complaining and get up and start again .Champions never give up
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    • Profile picture of the author WF- Enzo
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      I won't say they're weak. Perhaps they're demotivated, or probably are in the wrong work environment.

      Originally Posted by spartan14 View Post

      Well be ambitious and this people never give up .Weak people give up soon and they complain with their sad life working all life in a 9to5 job .Ask yourself you want to live all your life like that ? If not stop complaining and get up and start again .Champions never give up
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  • Profile picture of the author George Flm
    It's like a knockdown or KO.

    You have to string the missing pieces back together.

    Just don't blink and blast full steam ahead.

    Failure is a great teacher and it's not cut for the glass jaw.

    Swing like there's no tomorrow and live for the moment.

    Each failure gets you closer to your goal.

    It all boils down, how *teachable* you are - if you absorb information like a sponge and the whole enchilada.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marian
    I just don't EVER give up and try more!

    Marian
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  • Profile picture of the author troy23
    I don't see it as failure, I see it as success.
    Success in that I learnt not to do something.
    For example, I recall experimenting with Safelist marketing and mailers.
    It was something I knew would not work and I was right.
    I lost a bit of time and a small bit of money, but it has taught me never to waste my time on all that again.
    I never saw it as failure and was pleased I can rule it out now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sophia Hayat
    • I usually try to take the responsibility and not make excuses for the failure.
    • What I learned from the experience.
    • Talk about how I can use the experience to become better at your job and to avoid similar mistakes.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Flm
    Fail as fast as you can... there is deep learning curve in there yet knowledge is power

    He who possesses and applies the knowledge will have their desires met.
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    • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
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      The best education is truly in failure. Especially other people's.

      If someone is willing to share their biggest failures or challenges I am always willing to receive it.

      I could create entire blogs on marketing missteps, traveling challenges, and regrets on opportunities not taken. Sometimes when relevant I do share as much as possible for others to leverage so it goes both ways pretty much.

      I was reading a story about Steve Jobs.
      My first assumption was that he died from his "fruitarian" diet. (the actor that played him in bio flick followed his diet and had to go to hospital emergency room.

      But really it was his stubbornness not to have doctors cutting on him and waiting 9 months while his condition worsened by the time he did.
      https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/st...ry?id=14781250


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  • Profile picture of the author FaheemAA
    Failure is a part of every human life. No one can achieve without failure. The fact is people only seen him who successful but never seen his past which full of failure.
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  • Profile picture of the author incomenow
    If you have ever had to face a painful failure, you probably know that it is not an easy experience to deal with. There are many reasons why you might feel that way. You may have failed in a job interview or a project. However, the reality is that every failure has a reason, and it is not personal. By learning how to handle it, you can take the necessary steps to avoid experiencing it in the future.

    One of the ways to deal with failure is to understand that it is a natural part of life, but you have to make sure that you learn to deal with it. We will all face some types of failure in our lives, and we must learn how to cope with these different forms of challenges.

    Failure can be a helpful tool in helping you grow. It is an opportunity to assess how well you are working and improve.

    A failure can make you evaluate your professional skills and habits. It is a good lesson that will help you in the future. Taking advice from a therapist is a good idea since they can give you practical advice and suggestions on dealing with failure in the future. If you cannot handle a challenge, consider hiring a therapist. A therapist can help you handle failure constructively.

    The key to handling failure is to make it an opportunity to improve your skills. Unlike when you're successful, you'll never know when a failure will happen. Instead, you should see it as an opportunity to improve. Your therapist will be able to offer helpful advice and suggestions on how to deal with failure in your career. If you have failed before, you can learn from the experience and avoid it in the future.

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    What do you do if and when you fail, and how do you move on?
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  • Profile picture of the author Gautam1996
    As we know that fail is the part of our life without fail we don't get success. Any one said he never get fail in any stage of life. he / she told wrong because human-being never get success without fail.
    According to my view point we never foretaste in any stage of life and do your work with full potential toward your success. Because we only do hard work never made result of success so do hard work .
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMarvinJr
    I always remember that Rome was not built in a day and that making mistakes = gaining experience = getting better.
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