Do you design/build a website by yourself, or instead you hire a designer to do the job for you

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Hey forum members, I hope all of you are doing well!

So I have one question that I'm curious about; This question applies to your personal choicement, nothing crucial for SEO. So I'm interested in this: do you design/build your site or client's by yourself our you hire designers to do that for you?

Personally, I hire wordpress designers on fiver, so I don't waste my time.
At the start of my SEO carrier, I build my sites on my own; now, when I'm on a much better budget, I pay others to do for me because I can save a lot of time and invest that time in SEO.

What are your thoughts bout this? Let me know!
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  • Profile picture of the author PK120
    I always have a web designer do the hjard yards for me so that I can focus on the SEO aspect of web work. Building sites and doing SEO at the same time is very time consuming
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    • Profile picture of the author nLinkBuilding
      I completely agree with you, doing the both is super hard.
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  • Profile picture of the author angrybudcom
    I can do on my own, and loving it, no one can do better than I can do for me. Having less experience in day to day marketing rather then in development, to be honest...

    However, when it come to hiring I seriously check two things:

    1. AGE. The real biological age of the developer (or of a whole squad) BECAUSE the youngsters missed a whole epoch and they simply cannot make as solid as a mastodon can perform, but they offer other benefits!! Example? Using a whole JS lib for a single operation, and for this I take an old one. But using a whole lib in full, I'll look for a younger one... Speed is everything.

    2. GEO, I carefully choose the region. This is a RELATIVELY NEW industry (comparing to farming, gold smithing or any other offline craft)... So, the development went different ways and there is a kinda "mass historical knowledge" so to say, over the regions. Example? Microsoft (reportedly) influenced piracy market in Eastern Europe, these people are universal as they had all tools for free, not paying a penny for Photoshop when other paid 3k for a license. Another one: SE Asia lacks Unity experience as a Unity's annual fee is 10% of an avg family budget, iOS was banned in China for long as a policy, maybe a wrong idea to hire Chinese company for iOS, etc, etc.

    That's a too personal feeling, I know. Yet it somewhat works for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    I like to hire people who know more then me on building a wordpress website for example.

    I go to Fiverr.
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    • Profile picture of the author nLinkBuilding
      Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

      I like to hire people who know more then me on building a wordpress website for example.

      I go to Fiverr.

      The same goes for me; when I need to make new one, I hire some web designer on fiverr
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Emerick
    I design and make my own websites. Very simple for me and I know everything about my sites and can change something with just a few clicks, usually.
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  • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
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    As much as I would love to completely outsource it is more of a combo I think.

    Will a Designer know about Copy that Converts?

    Site Security?

    Page Speed?

    Full Sales Funnels?

    The language my audience speaks?

    Back-linking and Guest Posts?

    What would be appealing to an investor that was looking to buy established websites?
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    • Profile picture of the author nLinkBuilding
      Originally Posted by Profit Traveler View Post

      As much as I would love to completely outsource it is more of a combo I think.

      Will a Designer know about Copy that Converts?

      Site Security?

      Page Speed?

      Full Sales Funnels?

      The language my audience speaks?

      Back-linking and Guest Posts?

      What would be appealing to an investor that was looking to buy established websites?

      When it comes to my judgment about hiring the web designer, it comes to this:

      Will a Designer know about Copy that Converts?- Yeah, they must know to copy and convert; that's essential.

      Site Security?- Hell yeah, security must be on the highest level.

      Page Speed?- That's on me; I usually take care of that

      Full Sales Funnels?- The same as previous, this thing is on me

      The language my audience speaks?-I usually make ENG sites, so the language is no problem at all.

      Back-linking and Guest Posts?-That's my personal SEO strategy; I take care of those things.

      What would be appealing to an investor looking to buy established websites- Honestly, the niche is most important; after that, it comes to traffic and the place in SERP for the various keywords. The same applies to me; without good metrics levels, I won't invest in any site.
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  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    get done for you wp theme, focus on the content n plugins (seo eetc), not that much for designing it.
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    • Profile picture of the author nLinkBuilding
      Originally Posted by visimedia View Post

      get done for you wp theme, focus on the content n plugins (seo eetc), not that much for designing it.

      Completely agree with you; most of newbies focus on the appearance, but not at the SEO, which is big problem for them...
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  • Profile picture of the author Blackibex
    Very first, I hope all of you are doing well . I want to share that, If you are experienced to build a website so you can do it but If you have no idea to build a website so very most important things you will have to keep in your mind while building a website . Are you a web developer and designer ? Are you an experienced Graphic Designer ? Do You have experience of content writing and while building a website can do proper SEO according to any search engine browser algorithm ? If you need a good website so team work is the most important and play a vital role to build a professional business website .
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  • Profile picture of the author praetserge
    I do what I can do myself and hire others to help me.
    I'm sorry... I don't know everything. Yes, I can easily search "how to do 301 redirect" but it'll take me lots of time to do a logo and it'll be bad so I use help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan S
    If you'll use WordPress, better learn how to do it. It's free and truckloads of tutorials in YouTube. The reason I'm saying this is because if you were the one who built your website, you'll know the A-Z of it, you can polish it and become expert on it as time goes by and you can save your money in the long run as you need to update your website regularly while making changes and additions along the way. Web design with WordPress is easier than you thought, you just need to spend time and effort but it pays.
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  • Profile picture of the author CyberSEO
    Originally Posted by nLinkBuilding View Post

    Do you design/build a website by yourself, or instead you hire a designer to do the job for you

    I don't think that 99.9% of website owners need to hire designers nowadays. Course if you are not Apple, Samsung or Blizzard.


    There is a ton of website templates and CMS themes (free and premium ones). You can use them out of the box or modify according to your own style. There are many of free online site builders where you can create a descent site in a hour w/o even a basic HTML knowledge.


    For example, I'm not a designer. I have a lot of online resources and never hired a pro to make a site for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author luciesmazanska
    Originally Posted by nLinkBuilding View Post

    Hey forum members, I hope all of you are doing well!

    So I have one question that I'm curious about; This question applies to your personal choicement, nothing crucial for SEO. So I'm interested in this: do you design/build your site or client's by yourself our you hire designers to do that for you?

    Personally, I hire wordpress designers on fiver, so I don't waste my time.
    At the start of my SEO carrier, I build my sites on my own; now, when I'm on a much better budget, I pay others to do for me because I can save a lot of time and invest that time in SEO.

    What are your thoughts bout this? Let me know!
    Depends if it needs to be too complicated or not.
    If not I do it bymyself and keep it simple but professional

    If one of my clients prefer make it more complex I hire someone
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnny12345
    Personally, I build my own sites. I use mostly HTML, CSS, and PHP to do it. (I think coding is fun.)

    One of the great things about HTML sites is that they load REALLY FAST. You can also backup and move HTML sites very easily with an FTP program such as FileZilla.

    Of course, if you don't know how to build a site with code, both WordPress and ClickFunnels are viable options.

    The big advantage to WordPress is that it's free (unless you buy a theme or plug-ins). If you watch a few YouTube videos (or read a book), it's not hard to use. There are also paid "drag and drop" plug-ins for it (Thrive and Elementor).

    I also know people who use ClickFunnels. It's basically a "drag and drop" system. So, virtually anyone can do it.

    I know people with ZERO tech skills who still manage to produce a fairly nice sales page. The downside is that it can be expensive. (If I remember correctly, it's around $99 to $300 per month -- depending on the version you choose).

    People used to complain that CF loaded slowly, but I think they've improved it.

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author billwide
    In general I purchase the script, template, plugin and after I customize by myself. I had worked with HTML, CSS, PHP and have a good knowledge on this topics, but yes, if you hire someone to do this services for you will be much more fast to start selling your own products online.
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  • Profile picture of the author WF- Enzo
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    Weird that this post gets bumped months later.

    As much as I'm not that good in programming, I try to do it by myself. Just some basic HTML and WYSIWG editing.


    Originally Posted by nLinkBuilding View Post

    Hey forum members, I hope all of you are doing well!

    So I have one question that I'm curious about; This question applies to your personal choicement, nothing crucial for SEO. So I'm interested in this: do you design/build your site or client's by yourself our you hire designers to do that for you?

    Personally, I hire wordpress designers on fiver, so I don't waste my time.
    At the start of my SEO carrier, I build my sites on my own; now, when I'm on a much better budget, I pay others to do for me because I can save a lot of time and invest that time in SEO.

    What are your thoughts bout this? Let me know!
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  • Profile picture of the author tahirh
    I currently do it myself. I think its good to build up the experience and have the know how. But like you mentioned you save time outsourcing work to focus on SEO which is good, and that comes handy in the long run. As long as you can find the right people to outsource the work and do a good job.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
    Yeah, I design my own mostly -- and really enjoy it. : ) Also, I'm kind of in complete control of the design process/outcome ... That I also like. That said -- although they look "professional" -- my Websites are relatively simple compared to what an Expert can create.
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  • I think it is more convenient to hire a designer for you to be able to focus on SEO positioning, which after all is what will determine the positioning of the website.
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  • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
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    Either way you need to know what will get best results on your budget an you have to know what you don't know.

    Proper research of market and audience, social media integration, trends an tools, traffic an conversions etc.

    I have seen some people state they will monetize months later when you can monetize immediatly on day one.

    Your brand should be set up to introduce a helpful service or offer in a smooth relevant funnel.
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  • Profile picture of the author savidge4
    I get the whole learning curve associated with wordpress. And it only get worse jumping from theme to theme, because they are all different - so its basically like starting over.

    I build sites for a living... I only use 4 themes - I know them up one side and down the other... I have a library of code changes to change the appearance, Basically, over time I have removed the "learning curve" and can build a site in no time. And for me that is the secret... using the same theme over and over.

    Listed below are 2 themes that out of the box will get you in the right direction. A single page block style theme, and a "true" right column theme, which is hard to find, and the most common page structure people use.

    Single page block theme: ( https://wordpress.org/themes/neve/ )

    Right side column theme ( https://wordpress.org/themes/generatepress/ )

    Sure there is an amount of learning involved... but again repeated use of the same theme and you just become more efficient.

    I also suggest using XAMPP to play with a wordpress theme "offline" meaning there would be no hosting fees etc while you are learning how to build using a theme.

    So why exactly would you want to learn to build your own sites? Because crap happens... because over time, you want to add features. Because there maybe hick ups after a wordpress update. Because building a site is the most basic skill, in developing online income.

    Like I said, the 2 above are basic layout structures ready to go - they will at the very least get you started .

    Hope that Helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author max5ty
    Speaking for myself...and what I'm hearing more and more...

    I can't understand why anyone still messes with WordPress. It's outdated. It's overkill. Unless you're a huge business it's not necessary. It's a whole lot of trying to confuse effort with results. You need a million plugins, and then you have to figure out which one is messing with which one and causing problems. WordPress has terrible security...blah blah blah.

    You've got stuff like Webflow and a lot of others that in my opinion are worlds better. Was reading some reviews on a couple of builders like Webflow and Duda a few weeks ago and there was a common theme...they wish they would have ditched WordPress a long time ago...and these were developers that had been building since the days of coding...back in the 1700s.

    Unless you're a huge company, or you're building for a huge company...you're wasting your time trying to be perceived as a "web designer" with WordPress. It's a colossal waste of time.

    There are a ton of builders that are easier and will do everything any small to medium business needs to accomplish.

    Ok, that's my rant for the day
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  • Profile picture of the author sana fatima
    If you code yourself then it will add another thing to your to-do list. Time is limited and you need to focus on other vital tasks of your business. If you don't know how to code then it is a lengthy task itself. First, you need to learn to code then you can build a website. There will be chances of errors that a professional web developer can solve. So, it is the best option to hire a professional web developer.

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  • Profile picture of the author brandwizz
    Normally what happens is people hire a web designer to build a website for their business because most of them haven't idea about how web development goes.
    Now, the thing is if you are a web developer or a web designer then, could you go for website design or development for yourself.
    Here also there are two prospects that is, if you have a time and also have vision about how your website look a like then you can go for yourself.
    Otherwise, you will hire people who can do the same thing or much better than you. You just have make him understand how your website looks like.
    Yeah, one more thing you can get fresh & much-talented people to work for web development rather than working as self and can charge you much lesser.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gaylenaramo
    I think it would be cool if the SEO specialist himself would create a site with which to work.
    I think it's easier to optimize it that way.
    In addition, the content on the site also affects the SEO. I mean the uniqueness of the text and photos.
    Of course, it is hard to do everything alone, so it is cool if two professionals are working together. That is, you do not just give orders on a freelance exchange. Your web designer is your friend and employee, and you have completed control of his work.
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