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14 years ago

"Delavo" can handle all of the requirements you have mentioned. Delavo doesn't interfere with the front end sales page layout or the backend member area layout.

There is a free version and paid version - however you can handle all that you mentioned with the free version. If you need a copy of the free version, send me a PM.

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Byron_Wells

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Blitzian

"Delavo" can handle all of the requirements you have mentioned. Delavo doesn't interfere with the front end sales page layout or the backend member area layout.

There is a free version and paid version - however you can handle all that you mentioned with the free version. If you need a copy of the free version, send me a PM.

Delavo involves quite a lot of work... Plus if you need any plugins they are to expensive to buy

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Chris Pambos 14 years ago

I recommend you use a quality shopping cart like 1ShoppingCart, Infusionsoft or Nanacast just to name a few to manage your subscriptions for your continuity program.

These shopping carts look after everything you mentioned that you were looking for in your post and more.

If funding is an issue, then you can easily begin with WordPress and use a plug-in and simply password protect your posts which will contain the content for your members to download and you would set up subscriptions for your members via PayPal.
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Byron_Wells

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Blitzian

"Delavo" can handle all of the requirements you have mentioned. Delavo doesn't interfere with the front end sales page layout or the backend member area layout.

There is a free version and paid version - however you can handle all that you mentioned with the free version. If you need a copy of the free version, send me a PM.

Do I need to get any of the plugins? Or can this be done with the free version??

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leesoes

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Blitzian

"Delavo" can handle all of the requirements you have mentioned. Delavo doesn't interfere with the front end sales page layout or the backend member area layout.

There is a free version and paid version - however you can handle all that you mentioned with the free version. If you need a copy of the free version, send me a PM.

Hi Blitz, I'm a new member of WF. I'm researching delavo and find Your post in WF. From what I read I feel that You know about delavo very good.

I've researched about software with membership affiliate software and end up with 2 choice - delavo or RAP.

RAP is more cheaper and it seems has same functionality with delavo. BUT then I find this poll result in WF that shows that delavo is better significantly.

If I check in alexa, RAP looks like more popular with higher alexa ranking.

MY QUESTION IS:

What is the main different between delavo & RAP?
Why should I choose delavo which is the plugin (F1.18 package) far more expensive than RAP? (I will buy it if it is far more better eventhough it is very expensive)
If I decide to get delavo, can I get free core version with license from you? Are You a delavo's ambassador? Of course I will then buy the plugind from your links.

I'm looking for your reply.

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Fernando Veloso

14 years ago

Hey Byron

What are the main differences between a wordpress membership plugin than a standalone membership site? I.e is it more secured to go with a membership software that hasnt been build around wordpress?

I've tried TOP WP Memberships plugins just to discover that they DO NOT protect your folders.

Say you want to offer your members a video course. There's no way to protect the Video folders (!!!!) or simply encrypt the links (!!!!).

Then I bought InstantMember. The owner is a WF member.

Maybe it's not the best option one for you, but take a look at his site. The script is very, very powerful and it's completely hands off once you get all contents inside.

Set and forget is the word.

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Johnny Slater

14 years ago

To answer you question about the difference between a WP plugin and a stand alone script:

Anything based on WP is a security risk, no matter what those selling these types of solutions tell you. WP is known to have quite a few security holes and is a very bad choice to base any type of security on. Any time you have an open platform where thousands of people have access to the raw code you are going to have security risks, thats just a fact of life and no matter how much others try to convince people otherwise it is the truth.

Stand alone scripts are going to be more secure than a WP installation, have less chance of a random hacker looking for known back door access points, and have less hackers writing hacks specifically designed to break their code. Some stand alone scripts are encripted which offers a higher level of security than you will have with WP and other open source solutions.

As for what software to use for your specific needs:

Look at Simple Member Pro. It meets your requirements.

You can use the dimesale feature to set an initial price that goes up after a specified number of people join. This is fully configurable:
10 at $4 then 10 at $8 then 10 at $12
100 at $27 then 100 at $37 then 100 at $47
or you could only have the price go up once like
100 for $27 then all others after that are $58.

There is a fully editable template system of html pages that allow you to control the look and feel of your entire site. Edit the template and you change how the entire thing looks.

You can have an unlimited number of products and each product has its own commission percentages so affiates can promote all your products seperately and earn different commission rates on each one.

There is an affiliate sign up feature where people can sign up to be an affiliate without having to purchase first.

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Byron_Wells

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Johnny Slater

To answer you question about the difference between a WP plugin and a stand alone script:

Anything based on WP is a security risk, no matter what those selling these types of solutions tell you. WP is known to have quite a few security holes and is a very bad choice to base any type of security on. Any time you have an open platform where thousands of people have access to the raw code you are going to have security risks, thats just a fact of life and no matter how much others try to convince people otherwise it is the truth.

Stand alone scripts are going to be more secure than a WP installation, have less chance of a random hacker looking for known back door access points, and have less hackers writing hacks specifically designed to break their code. Some stand alone scripts are encripted which offers a higher level of security than you will have with WP and other open source solutions.

As for what software to use for your specific needs:

Look at Simple Member Pro. It meets your requirements.

You can use the dimesale feature to set an initial price that goes up after a specified number of people join. This is fully configurable:
10 at $4 then 10 at $8 then 10 at $12
100 at $27 then 100 at $37 then 100 at $47
or you could only have the price go up once like
100 for $27 then all others after that are $58.

There is a fully editable template system of html pages that allow you to control the look and feel of your entire site. Edit the template and you change how the entire thing looks.

You can have an unlimited number of products and each product has its own commission percentages so affiates can promote all your products seperately and earn different commission rates on each one.

There is an affiliate sign up feature where people can sign up to be an affiliate without having to purchase first.

Is it html or php? Or both please

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Johnny Slater

14 years ago

The main script is all php, but the html template is completely designed through html pages.

The php and html are seperated from each other so that you can change the templates without having to worry about messing up any php coding anywhere. You just have several tokens which are located inside some of the html files that you have to be careful to understand and make sure they are properly placed in your own templates.

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Janet Sawyer

14 years ago

Byron,

Johnny, just about hit it on the head for you. Simple Member pro will do what you want, although you may need a few more $ _ think the total cost is $197 but that's a hell of a deal when you look at other programs out there.

Take a real look at simple member pro it's like 4 programs in one!.

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Alex Williams 14 years ago

Me and my partner, we are using RAP with Membership addon. RAP script (rapidactionprofits.com) + the addon does a really good job. You can have an affiliate program, membership levels, content dripping, and set it up on WP for customizeable layout.
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jam52633

14 years ago

If I am not mistaken, Vbulletin has a membership script in there forum. Not sure if that is what you are looking for or not

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Frodr

14 years ago

If i had to choose a membership script i would definitely go with RAP with the addon..

RAP allows for your affiliates to get paid directly to their paypal on every sale, as opposed to them getting a check every two weeks or w.e

It gives an affiliate more of a push to sell your product since the payment is instant for them.

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TheNightOwl

14 years ago

Hi, Johhny

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Simple Member Pro only integrates with PayPal last time I looked. Is that right?

Like RAP (membership or no), this is a major, major, major problem for me. I do NOT trust PayPal and I want the ability to flick the switch to 2CO or WorldPay or someone else if they decide to arbitrarily freeze my account.

And it's not that I do anything dodgy because I don't. Not even remotely.

No doubt in the majority of cases where PayPal freezes accounts it's justified; people doing stuff they know they really shouldn't be doing and then crying blue murder when their account gets locked for 6 months.

But I've also heard too many stories from folks who present a plausible argument for why their account freeze was arbitrary.

I once heard of a case where someone's account was frozen because (I think, from memory) someone who was on a blacklist purchased one of their products! I mean, if that's true (and granted it might not be! Or might not be the whole truth of the matter), then what gives there?

What's so hard about adding multiple payment gateways to a membership site/payment processing script?

For now, I'm sizing up InstantMember because it seems to tick all the boxes: customizable templates, drip-feed content delivery, content expiry, affiliate program (with lifetime affiliate reward system, I think), and... *** drumroll please *** multiple payment processors!

However, their support desk appears to be unmanned. I submitted a ticket last week and still haven't gotten a response. Could've disappeared into the ether, sure. But either way: BIG strike right there. If they can't get their pre-sales support together, it makes me worried about any post-sales support should I need it.

@Fernando: Have you tried contacting the support desk? Have you gotten any response?

Anyway, regardless of which script I end up using, I believe what Johnny says about WP 100% (and I've posted elsewhere to this effect). I'm about as leery of setting up a membership site on WP as I am of relying on PayPal as my merchant account.

I'll keep my eye on this thread.

Cheers!

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SageSound

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TheNightOwl

Like RAP (membership or no), this is a major, major, major problem for me. I do NOT trust PayPal and I want the ability to flick the switch to 2CO or WorldPay or someone else if they decide to arbitrarily freeze my account.

With RAP, affiliates are paid directly. So if you're paying out 50% commissions, you'll actually have 50% less funds in your account, 50% fewer transactions, and you won't owe your affiliates a single penny if for some odd reason PayPal "arbitrarily freezes" your account.

Your sales can go on normally, and your affiliates won't have a clue that anything has gone awry.

Now, tell me ANY other combination of scripts and payment processors that provides you with that level of safety when it comes to ensuring your affiliates get paid on time....

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globalpro

14 years ago

The two big things to look at is:

1. Does the script fit your need.

2. Does the script have a solid support system?

I think if I were to choose, it would be between RAP (the one I use extensively), DL Guard, Simple Member and Memberwing . Reason being is they have a solid track record and reputation (can't totally vouch for Simple Member now since Johnny sold it, but am sure he keeps up with things), not to mention support. All 4 developers, Sid, Sam, Johnny and Gleb, are solid members of this forum and have always taken the time to help people. That speaks volumes.

The difference is each of the scripts they develop do things a bit differently. So you have to compare apples to apples and see if the features offered fit your business plan. They are merely tools and no guarantee for success.

I do find it disturbing that people will make comments on things 'they have heard' that aren't backed by experience. Like the issue of PayPal as the payment processor. The sides are divided on the use of PayPal and the 'horror' stories some have based on the experience of getting their account frozen. I have found that most if not all have been able to resolve it in a timely fashion, when they follow with them. For people to have a 'knee jerk' reaction to a situation is the wrong way to go and to give advice on something 'they heard' doesn't help.

I think in the end, make your decision based on what will do what you need and your confidence of the experiences of people you trust, not 'hear say'.

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TheNightOwl

14 years ago

@John

Your response, above, obviously responds to the OP, but also to my post.

Originally Posted by globalpro

I do find it disturbing that people will make comments on things 'they have heard' that aren't backed by experience. Like the issue of PayPal as the payment processor.

You're right: hearsay is dangerous (And it's definitely a good thing to remind people of - me included). And, no, I don't have any personal experience of PayPal freezing my account.

But it doesn't necessarily invalidate what I'm saying out of hand, simply because I haven't experienced the old PayPal smackdown.

I get the feeling that the only reason you commented at all on this thread is because I mentioned RAP in the same breath as "PayPal freeze."

I own and use RAP myself. It's a good script. But I'll never use it for something that I couldn't afford to lose.

Need a relatively quick to set-up sales system with 100% commissions affiliate prog built in and lots of terrific add-ons to expand functionality? Step-up RAP!

It's good, no doubt about it.

But I would never use it for a membership site or something ongoing that was going to be turning over serious bank because if PayPal did their little dance, then my money'd be going down the toilet and new members wouldn't be able to sign up while I talked to PayPal and got the issue resolved.

Okay, that happens. Bad luck. Could happen with any payment processor/merchant account.

(And if I was doing something that warranted having my account frozen, then I get what I deserve; no crying to Mummy allowed!)

But if I'm beholded to a single payment processor and they get funny with my account, what do I do in the meantime?

I know it's hearsay and as I said in my previous post, such stories could be bogus for all I know, but search this very forum and you'll find members in good standing who've related their stories of the "I'd heard about it and figured it would never happen to me because I don't do dodgy stuff... and then suddenly they froze my account for no reason!" variety.

So what do I do if I can't just flick the switch and change payment gateways to avoid haemmoraging money while the issue gets resolved (due to my entire sales system hinging on PayPal)?

Thus, the major limitation, in my opinion, of any script which uses PayPal exclusively as the payment gateway is... that it uses PayPal exclusively as the gateway!

DLGuard, Memberwing, aMember, WishlistMember and others use multiple gateways and/or allow integration with a full shopping cart so why on Earth would anyone want to build a serious site on something that didn't do that?

That's what I'm getting at.

You're right, of course, about finding something that fits your needs. Obviously.

If the OP wants - or needs - specific functionality that can only be provided by SimpleMember or RAP, then I guess that more or less seals the deal.

But if a person wasn't in that situation, why would they build a site on something that didn't integrate with multiple gateways?

But hey, maybe I'm not seeing it right. I'm more than happy to stand corrected.

TheNightOwl

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iddigger

14 years ago

Hi Byron,

I have the simple membership script your looking for I think, and if you signup here them PM me I'll give it to you free, it only works with paypal but hey its Free. I'm going to get the pro version and plan to use them both.

I have several other scripts which are crap, but this one is so simple and it works (Simple Member)

Signing in here is the same script I'll give you.

I do have the right to do what ever I want with the scirpt.

Don't forget, if you sign up you must PM to get it free.

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Johnny Slater

14 years ago

You do NOT have the right to do whatever you want with the Simple Member script. It was sold with PLR to only 40 people ( and you are not one of my customers so you do not have the PLR to it.) Those 40 people could do anything they wanted EXCEPT sell the PLR on to their customers.

Unless you purchased it from me directly then you would only have resell, master resell, or giveaway rights. Any other rights that you were told you had by the seller do not apply because as the creator and original seller only I can set those rights.

David Allen may now own the Simple Member brand scripts but no further PLR copies have been sold other than those few I originally sold.

Originally Posted by iddigger

Hi Byron,

I have the simple membership script your looking for I think, and if you signup here them PM me I'll give it to you free, it only works with paypal but hey its Free. I'm going to get the pro version and plan to use them both.

I have several other scripts which are crap, but this one is so simple and it works (Simple Member)

Signing in here is the same script I'll give you.

I do have the right to do what ever I want with the scirpt.

Don't forget, if you sign up you must PM to get it free.

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iddigger

14 years ago

Hi Johnny,

Thanks for the info, I received the SMS from the guys selling UMS script, I think rap member and they sent MRR with my download.

If you want more info about how I got it PM me.

Originally Posted by Johnny Slater

You do NOT have the right to do whatever you want with the Simple Member script. It was sold with PLR to only 40 people ( and you are not one of my customers so you do not have the PLR to it.) Those 40 people could do anything they wanted EXCEPT sell the PLR on to their customers.

Unless you purchased it from me directly then you would only have resell, master resell, or giveaway rights. Any other rights that you were told you had by the seller do not apply because as the creator and original seller only I can set those rights.

David Allen may now own the Simple Member brand scripts but no further PLR copies have been sold other than those few I originally sold.

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SageSound

14 years ago

FWIW, there's now a RAP addon (Rapid Action Press) that integrates RAP very nicely with Wordpress. The same guys also just released another plugin for Wordpress that provides download protection for files originating ANYWHERE -- locally, on another server, or even via S3 and cloud services.

With RAP, there will soon be very little reason NOT to use Wordpress for many if not most routine sales+hosting needs!

There's also a Dimesale addon that lets you set up the kinds of payment levels the OP asked about.

-David

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jazbo

14 years ago

As you have no money really, you will need to get something you can learn with and build, rather than a top-dollar solution.

My advice is JOOMLA.

It handles multiple member options, privileges, landing pages, areas etc. There are also a ton of free plugins to extend functionality, and there are several membership and member fee/shopping cart plugins out there for free or cheap.

The downside is that there is a bit of a learning curve in getting a joomla site up and running, and around 2 weeks work to really develop something individual.

Another point is there are a ton of script kiddies on elance etc who will do Joomla modifications for peanuts, so when you do earn some money you can take it to the next level cheaply.

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Nithiyaah

14 years ago

Hi Byron,
Have you give a thought about Easy Member Pro? I think it might help you and it is $97.

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