AWeber Optin Forms are BLOCKED in Firefox with Adblock Plus!

LordKaT

18 years ago

don't use javascript.

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Floyd Fisher 18 years ago

Originally Posted by LordKaT

don't use javascript.

Problem is, Aweber's new system uses javascript to generate it's optin form.

The only way to do what you propose is to either not upgrade your Aweber account, or ditch Aweber.
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- Josh Anderson 18 years ago
  
  Problem is, Aweber's new system uses javascript to generate it's optin form.
  
  The only way to do what you propose is to either not upgrade your Aweber account, or ditch Aweber.
  
  Since the Eolas patent issue Javascript is now the standard for embedding flash content.
  
  So is the problem flash?
  
  Google uses javascript to embed adsense
  
  So the problem is adsense?
  
  If you block javascript you block other desirable content.
  
  The problem is using a javascript blocker not aweber using javascript.
  
  Because someone has scared them into thinking those things are dangerous.
  
  And fear is driven by ignorance.
  
  Javascript is an important language in web programming and without it people will find a lot of the web does not work for them. If they use a javascript blocker they only have themselves to blame.
  
  What I would recommend is that you use the <noscript> tag and put some very large html words to appear on your page to immediately command the attention of people who have javascript disabled.
  
  Tell them why they should enable it.
  
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Zeus66

18 years ago

Did Adblock Plus come standard with FF3, or is it an add-on you added later?

John

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JeffersonB

18 years ago

Must be a addin.

Most normal internet users don't use advanced plugins like that anyway.

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Jeff Seely 18 years ago

Lots of my readers were complaining about no opt-in form. Turns out it was ad block plus.

Just switch to the html form anyway -- you have more control over a few things, like the text of the submit button can be changed.
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- Zeus66 18 years ago
  
  Jeff,
  
  Not arguing with your suggestion to use HTML, but you can change the submit button text when setting up the parameters for the javascript form, too.
  
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Jesus Perez 18 years ago

Originally Posted by JeffersonB

Must be a addin.

Most normal internet users don't use advanced plugins like that anyway.

Did you miss the part about 317,699 weekly downloads? That's 1.2 million downloads a month.

That's a lot of people using the plugin. Don't blame those numbers on the geeks.

For the other non-believers. Here's the list of most popular Firefox Plugins.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...l?sort=popular

Adblock Plus is #2
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- WritingMadwoman 18 years ago
  
  Wow, I did not know about that! I use the html form for the sidebars of my sites so I can shorten the width of the fields, but I always use the java script for squeeze pages. Thanks for posting this, I had no idea they were being blocked for some people.
  
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askloz

18 years ago

There's several bugs in FF3, I've reported some about table alignments, etc, which has just now been patched and should be released soon... there's an update coming at end of month, beginning of next, at least that's what the developers said.

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Jesus Perez

18 years ago

Originally Posted by askloz

There's several bugs in FF3, I've reported some about table alignments, etc, which has just now been patched and should be released soon... there's an update coming at end of month, beginning of next, at least that's what the developers said.

Understood. But it's not a bug. Aweber is deliberately blocked in Adblock Plus.

Go here:
http://easylist.adblockplus.org/adblock_rick752.txt

And search for Aweber. On line 629, it says:

Code:

/forms.aweber.

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TedMarlett

18 years ago

I routinely view the front page of EZA to check out the competition and their tactics. Today, I found out that a guy with 9083 articles called Sean R. Mize is pushing people to his Squeeze page. Thing is, I can't see his optin form.

Hi BlueSquares,

I just went to his articles and was able to optin without any problems. I am using ff3 at this time. Hard to say what is causing a problem for you.

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Mike McBride

18 years ago

Originally Posted by TedMarlett

Hi BlueSquares,

I just went to his articles and was able to optin without any problems. I am using ff3 at this time. Hard to say what is causing a problem for you.

As has been posted several times in this thread already, the problem is NOT Firefox, it's the AdBlock Plus plugin.

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Brandon Tanner 18 years ago

There are a few reasons why some would want to use a Javascript form versus a HTML one (if you use a HTML form you will not have any pop-up functionality, and you will not have display stats for the form).

For those that want to use Javascript, one option would be to include a line of text right above the form that says "If you can't see the form below click here", and then link that to a page with the HTML version of the form.
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askloz

18 years ago

BlueSquares, oh, I don't use Awber any ways, I think it's crap. Get Response is much better imo.

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Jesus Perez 18 years ago

Originally Posted by askloz

BlueSquares, oh, I don't use Awber any ways, I think it's crap. Get Response is much better imo.

That's what I use as well.
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Originally Posted by askloz

BlueSquares, oh, I don't use Awber any ways, I think it's crap. Get Response is much better imo.

Aweber is crap? Too funny.

You should take your show on the road.

But make sure you don't quit your day job.
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Michael Oksa

18 years ago

It may be a sign of things to come, who knows?

So, looking for a solution makes sense.

If you are concerned about a form not showing you could always add a note that says, "If you cannot view the form, please [enter alternative here]"

It's not a great solution, but may prevent the loss of a good % of opt-ins.

~Michael

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Josh Anderson

18 years ago

Javascript is not the problem. FF3 has no problem displaying Javascript.

Aweber is not the problem. FF3 has no problem displaying aweber forms embedded with javascript.

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JayXtreme

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Josh Anderson

Javascript is not the problem. FF3 has no problem displaying Javascript.

Aweber is not the problem. FF3 has no problem displaying aweber forms embedded with javascript.

It's the PLUGIN that is the problem!!!!!!!!!!!!

As has been said 5 times in this thread already

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pjs 18 years ago

I know I'm not the first person to say this, but I don't use the JS. I always create an HTML form.. It only takes 2 minutes and you can customize it to fit your page perfectly..
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jasonl70

18 years ago

do html forms work with adblock? I use html so I can set up my own forms with better call-to-action type graphics for the button, etc.

Josh - are you using the adblock plugin?

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Josh Anderson

18 years ago

It's the PLUGIN that is the problem!!!!!!!!!!!!

As has been said 5 times in this thread already

No kidding Jay?

That's amazing.

Josh - are you using the adblock plugin?

Nah, I like surfing an internet that is not broken. Ads don't bug me and ad block programs are a joke that mess up your internet experience as they cannot tell the difference between functions meant to improve experience on a web page and actual ads.

Anyone who surfs the web with javascript disabled and wonders why sites do not work for them needs to have their heads checked.

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JayXtreme

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Josh Anderson

Nah, I like surfing an internet that is not broken. Ads don't bug me and ad block programs are a joke that mess up your internet experience as they cannot tell the difference between functions meant to improve experience on a web page and actual ads.

Anyone who surfs the web with javascript disabled and wonders why sites do not work for them needs to have their heads checked.

VERY true Josh...I agree completely

Peace

Jay

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jasonl70

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Josh Anderson

Nah, I like surfing an internet that is not broken. Ads don't bug me and ad block programs are a joke that mess up your internet experience as they cannot tell the difference between functions meant to improve experience on a web page and actual ads.

Anyone who surfs the web with javascript disabled and wonders why sites do not work for them needs to have their heads checked.

I never understood why anyone would disable javascript, cookies, etc...

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Chris Lockwood 18 years ago

Originally Posted by jasonl70

I never understood why anyone would disable javascript, cookies, etc...

Because someone has scared them into thinking those things are dangerous.
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Neil Morgan 18 years ago

weird, i have FF and havent had any problems viewing aweber forms.

Er, could it be the plug-in that's the problem, not FF?

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Jesus Perez

18 years ago

I've changed the title to reflect the plugin.

If anyone wants me to check out their Aweber optin form with FF3/Adblock, just send over your URL via PM.

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