AWeber Optin Forms are BLOCKED in Firefox with Adblock Plus!

by Jesus Perez 28 replies
I routinely view the front page of EZA to check out the competition and their tactics. Today, I found out that a guy with 9083 articles called Sean R. Mize is pushing people to his Squeeze page. Thing is, I can't see his optin form.

Why? Because it's blocked by Firefox 3 with the Adblock Plus plugin. I'm not sure if this also impacts FF2. I'm not sure what the percentage of FF3 users are with Adblock Plus, but it gets 317,699 weekly downloads and is Firefox's #2 Most Popular plugin. So it must be considerable. And as we all know...do everything necessary to boost that conversion rate!

FYI, if you're hosting Aweber forms, you may want to change the code a bit.

And Sean...take a break, man! 9,083 means it's time for a beer!

Here's what I do and don't see...


#main internet marketing discussion forum #aweber #blocked #firefox #forms #optin
Avatar of Unregistered
  • Profile picture of the author LordKaT
    don't use javascript.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[124701].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
      Originally Posted by LordKaT View Post

      don't use javascript.
      Problem is, Aweber's new system uses javascript to generate it's optin form.

      The only way to do what you propose is to either not upgrade your Aweber account, or ditch Aweber.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[126480].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Josh Anderson
        Problem is, Aweber's new system uses javascript to generate it's optin form.

        The only way to do what you propose is to either not upgrade your Aweber account, or ditch Aweber.
        Since the Eolas patent issue Javascript is now the standard for embedding flash content.

        So is the problem flash?

        Google uses javascript to embed adsense

        So the problem is adsense?

        If you block javascript you block other desirable content.

        The problem is using a javascript blocker not aweber using javascript.

        Because someone has scared them into thinking those things are dangerous.
        And fear is driven by ignorance.

        Javascript is an important language in web programming and without it people will find a lot of the web does not work for them. If they use a javascript blocker they only have themselves to blame.

        What I would recommend is that you use the <noscript> tag and put some very large html words to appear on your page to immediately command the attention of people who have javascript disabled.

        Tell them why they should enable it.
        Signature
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[126591].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    Did Adblock Plus come standard with FF3, or is it an add-on you added later?

    John
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[124739].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author JeffersonB
    Must be a addin.

    Most normal internet users don't use advanced plugins like that anyway.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[124753].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Seely
      Lots of my readers were complaining about no opt-in form. Turns out it was ad block plus.

      Just switch to the html form anyway -- you have more control over a few things, like the text of the submit button can be changed.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[124764].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
        Jeff,

        Not arguing with your suggestion to use HTML, but you can change the submit button text when setting up the parameters for the javascript form, too.

        John
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[124838].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
      Originally Posted by JeffersonB View Post

      Must be a addin.

      Most normal internet users don't use advanced plugins like that anyway.
      Did you miss the part about 317,699 weekly downloads? That's 1.2 million downloads a month.

      That's a lot of people using the plugin. Don't blame those numbers on the geeks.

      For the other non-believers. Here's the list of most popular Firefox Plugins.
      https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...l?sort=popular

      Adblock Plus is #2
      Signature


      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[124880].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    There's several bugs in FF3, I've reported some about table alignments, etc, which has just now been patched and should be released soon... there's an update coming at end of month, beginning of next, at least that's what the developers said.
    Signature
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[124908].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
      Originally Posted by askloz View Post

      There's several bugs in FF3, I've reported some about table alignments, etc, which has just now been patched and should be released soon... there's an update coming at end of month, beginning of next, at least that's what the developers said.
      Understood. But it's not a bug. Aweber is deliberately blocked in Adblock Plus.

      Go here:
      http://easylist.adblockplus.org/adblock_rick752.txt

      And search for Aweber. On line 629, it says:
      Code:
      /forms.aweber.
      Signature


      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[124917].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author TedMarlett
      I routinely view the front page of EZA to check out the competition and their tactics. Today, I found out that a guy with 9083 articles called Sean R. Mize is pushing people to his Squeeze page. Thing is, I can't see his optin form.
      Hi BlueSquares,

      I just went to his articles and was able to optin without any problems. I am using ff3 at this time. Hard to say what is causing a problem for you.
      Signature

      Get information on growing older and healthier.


      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[124933].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Mike McBride
        Originally Posted by TedMarlett View Post

        Hi BlueSquares,

        I just went to his articles and was able to optin without any problems. I am using ff3 at this time. Hard to say what is causing a problem for you.
        As has been posted several times in this thread already, the problem is NOT Firefox, it's the AdBlock Plus plugin.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[124973].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author Brandon Tanner
          There are a few reasons why some would want to use a Javascript form versus a HTML one (if you use a HTML form you will not have any pop-up functionality, and you will not have display stats for the form).

          For those that want to use Javascript, one option would be to include a line of text right above the form that says "If you can't see the form below click here", and then link that to a page with the HTML version of the form.
          Signature

          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[125044].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    BlueSquares, oh, I don't use Awber any ways, I think it's crap. Get Response is much better imo.
    Signature
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[124962].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
      Originally Posted by askloz View Post

      BlueSquares, oh, I don't use Awber any ways, I think it's crap. Get Response is much better imo.
      That's what I use as well.
      Signature


      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[125116].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author n\a
      Originally Posted by askloz View Post

      BlueSquares, oh, I don't use Awber any ways, I think it's crap. Get Response is much better imo.
      Aweber is crap? Too funny.

      You should take your show on the road.

      But make sure you don't quit your day job.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[125173].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    It may be a sign of things to come, who knows?

    So, looking for a solution makes sense.

    If you are concerned about a form not showing you could always add a note that says, "If you cannot view the form, please [enter alternative here]"

    It's not a great solution, but may prevent the loss of a good % of opt-ins.

    ~Michael
    Signature

    "Ich bin en fuego!"
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[125126].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Josh Anderson
      Javascript is not the problem. FF3 has no problem displaying Javascript.

      Aweber is not the problem. FF3 has no problem displaying aweber forms embedded with javascript.
      Signature
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[125154].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
        Originally Posted by Josh Anderson View Post

        Javascript is not the problem. FF3 has no problem displaying Javascript.

        Aweber is not the problem. FF3 has no problem displaying aweber forms embedded with javascript.
        It's the PLUGIN that is the problem!!!!!!!!!!!!

        As has been said 5 times in this thread already
        Signature

        Bare Murkage.........

        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[125181].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author pjs
          I know I'm not the first person to say this, but I don't use the JS. I always create an HTML form.. It only takes 2 minutes and you can customize it to fit your page perfectly..
          Signature
          Mom and Pop Money WSO *** - How ONE Lead Capture Page Made $9K in 2 Weeks in the "Offline" niche!

          PeterSanchez.com >>> FollowPeter.com (Twitter)
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[125185].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    do html forms work with adblock? I use html so I can set up my own forms with better call-to-action type graphics for the button, etc.

    Josh - are you using the adblock plugin?
    Signature

    -Jason

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[125176].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Josh Anderson
    It's the PLUGIN that is the problem!!!!!!!!!!!!

    As has been said 5 times in this thread already
    No kidding Jay?

    That's amazing.

    Josh - are you using the adblock plugin?
    Nah, I like surfing an internet that is not broken. Ads don't bug me and ad block programs are a joke that mess up your internet experience as they cannot tell the difference between functions meant to improve experience on a web page and actual ads.

    Anyone who surfs the web with javascript disabled and wonders why sites do not work for them needs to have their heads checked.
    Signature
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[125190].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
      Originally Posted by Josh Anderson View Post

      Nah, I like surfing an internet that is not broken. Ads don't bug me and ad block programs are a joke that mess up your internet experience as they cannot tell the difference between functions meant to improve experience on a web page and actual ads.

      Anyone who surfs the web with javascript disabled and wonders why sites do not work for them needs to have their heads checked.
      VERY true Josh...I agree completely

      Peace

      Jay
      Signature

      Bare Murkage.........

      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[125212].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
      Originally Posted by Josh Anderson View Post

      Nah, I like surfing an internet that is not broken. Ads don't bug me and ad block programs are a joke that mess up your internet experience as they cannot tell the difference between functions meant to improve experience on a web page and actual ads.

      Anyone who surfs the web with javascript disabled and wonders why sites do not work for them needs to have their heads checked.
      I never understood why anyone would disable javascript, cookies, etc...
      Signature

      -Jason

      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[125240].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author narsticle
    Banned
    [DELETED]
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[125468].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
      weird, i have FF and havent had any problems viewing aweber forms.
      Er, could it be the plug-in that's the problem, not FF?

      Cheers,

      Neil
      Signature

      Easy email marketing automation without moving your lists.

      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[125470].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    I've changed the title to reflect the plugin.

    If anyone wants me to check out their Aweber optin form with FF3/Adblock, just send over your URL via PM.
    Signature


    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[125535].message }}
Avatar of Unregistered

Trending Topics