50 posts to send PM

14 years ago

Probably because it's extremely attractive to spammers.

In this forum, you can find lots of people with huge lists and successful Internet marketing companies. Very tempting to just come here and spam PMs at all the big shots, hoping to get a JV or freebies or whatever...

EDIT: Actually, I just remembered that I got some newbie-bait PMs when I signed up to some other IM forums. You know, the kind of message that says: "We're working on something HUGE! It will make tons of cash! Wanna join us?" and then they want you to pay for some membership or crappy product.
Never got any messages like that here.

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TommyBussey 14 years ago

Originally Posted by ShaneRQR

"We're working on something HUGE! It will make tons of cash! Wanna join us?"

haha Isn't it nice not to have to worry about that here!?

Damn, dude, 50 posts, waah wahhh:confused: That's not that much. This forum is full of people bringing 6, 7, and 8+ figures a year. You're among some brilliant minds. It wouldn't hurt to join the conversations, contribute and just build up a reputation here. If you start PMing people and they haven't seen much of you in the forum they won't even respond.

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- Jill Carpenter 14 years ago
  
  I think that is a very fair amount.
  
  If you are not a paying member here, you have to remember -- it costs $ to run this forum. It is a privilege to be a member here, even if you are a paying member.
  
  Some may not realize this, but there is no rule that just because you pay you can't get kicked off.
  
  If someone can not contribute financially, then you should consider your 50 posts to be a fair type of barter payment to be allowed to have some PMs.
  
  Good content works just as well as a good contribution to the forum.
  
  A very clever and wise move.
  
  10 posts is NOTHING.
  
  While one liners are not entertained, you don't have to write a novel.
  
  Also, I'm not sure if it is still working but yesterday I was able to see a way to email a non paying member and leave a note on their back end.
  
  If you really want to communicate with someone privately and are not yet at 50 posts or able to pay, I suggest you add your contact information on the side pocket. Get a skype - it's free - or even a twitter account.
  
  Again, Admin doesn't owe us anything. A great forum has been provided here and it is up to date, fully functioning, and useful to people whether they are paying members or not.
  
  This is not a charity, not that I'm aware of.
  
  How much do you want it? Is it important to you?
  
  As one someone said to me at some point (too early in the morning for me to remember the time and place) "This is not a democracy" LOL
  
  Rules is rules. As my father would say, "Shape up or ship out" and "If you don't like it around here, go find another place to live"
  
  LOL, I think I caught him off guard when I took him up on that second offer.
  
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broker12

14 years ago

Yeah but why 50? I would think that 10 or 15 would dissuade spammers. At 50 you affect a lot of normal users.

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halfpoint 14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

Yeah but why 50? I would think that 10 or 15 would dissuade spammers. At 50 you affect a lot of normal users.

If you don't want to wait then join the War Room.
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Originally Posted by broker12

Yeah but why 50? I would think that 10 or 15 would dissuade spammers. At 50 you affect a lot of normal users.

You're already up to 13 as of my reading, just keep looking around and participating in threads. It won't take you long to get to 50.
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seasoned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

Yeah but why 50? I would think that 10 or 15 would dissuade spammers. At 50 you affect a lot of normal users.

So why do YOU care if 50 is SO low ALREADY!?!?!? The reason it isn't 10 or 15 is because THEN someone would just make 10 or 15 posts, and then PM. 50 is HARDER. Maybe THAT is why the duplicate post lock, wait, etc... were put in.

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- JohnMcCabe 14 years ago
  
  My guess is that the requirement is set at 50 because 30 wasn't high enough. People - strike that - nameless, faceless entities complained bitterly about the old 30 post limit, too. Another wailing and gnashing of teeth when posts in the off-topic forum didn't count toward the 30 required posts. Then we started getting a rash of worthless posts, some just gibberish, for the sole purpose of cranking up the post count.
  
  At 50 posts, you've managed to avoid getting banned and made 50 contributions of some sort. You've earned the right to use the PM system, at least until you do something stupid and get suspended or banned. [When I say "you", I'm not specifically targeting you personally, "broker12".]
  
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GeorgR.

14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

I just tried to send a pm and it said I needed 50 posts to do so. This seems like a high requirement. Why is this forum so restrictive?

Because an annoying percentage of people abuse the forum and spam users. Simple as that. That high cap serves a purpose which benefits the people here. Noone wants spam.

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BrianMcLeod

14 years ago

Simplest answer? Because Admin Says so...

Starting off by whining is not particularly useful here.

Promise...

Just join the conversation...

Share what you know, ask what you don't.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by BrianMcLeod

Simplest answer? Because Admin Says so...

Starting off by whining is not particularly useful here.

Promise...

Just join the conversation...

Share what you know, ask what you don't.

lolx

i like your answer

i having the same situation.
and it not allow me to post any more message

and message box only allow 10 message
is that any VIP member?

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Mike Anthony

14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

I just tried to send a pm and it said I needed 50 posts to do so. This seems like a high requirement. Why is this forum so restrictive?

Is that the new rule? All I can say is

Good move by the admins.

For background understand that there seemed to have been a spammer yesterday that caused major headaches. They had to do something and 10 or 20 posts unfortunately isn't really enough to dissuade spammers.

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broker12

14 years ago

It seems like most of the more senior members are in support of this rule. You may also consider that genuine new members will also be posting a lot of spam or weak posts just to get to that 50 barrier.
Also, if I make a purchase from an wso or classified, that supports those members who are paying fees for their listing. Although indirect, that is a financial benefit to the forum.
It seems new members are not appreciated or encouraged here compared to other forums.

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Jill Carpenter

14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

It seems like most of the more senior members are in support of this rule. You may also consider that genuine new members will also be posting a lot of spam or weak posts just to get to that 50 barrier.
Also, if I make a purchase from an wso or classified, that supports those members who are paying fees for their listing. Although indirect, that is a financial benefit to the forum.
It seems new members are not appreciated or encouraged here compared to other forums.

Spammers are reported with the little emergency button on the left. Members are the moderators.

Valid new members are always welcome and supported. What do you expect? A red carpet and a parade?

If you make a purchase in the WSO area, that is your business. Just as if you purchased a clickbank product. If you were unhappy, you would contact the seller and deal with them privately. If the seller has really not provided any additional way for you to contact them, then perhaps you should not purchase the WSO.

Perhaps other forums are more lax because they are not as lucrative and popular.

The rules in place are to protect the members and community.

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broker12

14 years ago

I don't agree that new members are welcome and supported. Obstacles are put up like the 50 posts to pm, and and 10 pm limits in the mailbox to frustrate the process.
I have spent time in a lot of other marketing forums and this one seems more geared to monetizing their userbase. With traffic in the hundreds of thousands it would seem to me that this is more than just covering costs as you explain.
You may not like my opinion, but I would not be surprised if a large percentage of new users also felt the same way.

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jazbo

14 years ago

I didn't, and don't feel that way. Never had to do much via PM, and if I do I quickly move it to personal emails.

As for the monetizing their userbase - who wouldn't? This is the western world! If I had something as large as this forum I would want to make a decent living from it - wouldn't you?

If you can only see the monetization of members, and not the opportunities that arise on this forum then you are missing the value of it entirely.

Bottom line is quit whingeing I would say. This is head and shoulders above, the best IM forum you will find, so join in, be positive and earn the right to use those PM's, or find somewhere else where you can PM to your little hearts content and be part of a charity project.

Originally Posted by broker12

I don't agree that new members are welcome and supported. Obstacles are put up like the 50 posts to pm, and and 10 pm limits in the mailbox to frustrate the process.
I have spent time in a lot of other marketing forums and this one seems more geared to monetizing their userbase. With traffic in the hundreds of thousands it would seem to me that this is more than just covering costs as you explain.
You may not like my opinion, but I would not be surprised if a large percentage of new users also felt the same way.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

I don't agree that new members are welcome and supported. Obstacles are put up like the 50 posts to pm, and and 10 pm limits in the mailbox to frustrate the process.
I have spent time in a lot of other marketing forums and this one seems more geared to monetizing their userbase. With traffic in the hundreds of thousands it would seem to me that this is more than just covering costs as you explain.
You may not like my opinion, but I would not be surprised if a large percentage of new users also felt the same way.

You, and others may "feel" that way, but the fact is you couldn't be more wrong.

I have never seen a forum that is more willing to help everyone - regardless of time spent here.

Besides, if we are such a bad forum, why do you still want to get to PM status so badly? There is only one reason I can think of to be itching to send messages.

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Jill Carpenter 14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

I have spent time in a lot of other marketing forums and this one seems more geared to monetizing their userbase.

An internet marketing forum that is about making money? Say it ain't so. :rolleyes:
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

I don't agree that new members are welcome and supported. Obstacles are put up like the 50 posts to pm, and and 10 pm limits in the mailbox to frustrate the process.
I have spent time in a lot of other marketing forums and this one seems more geared to monetizing their userbase. With traffic in the hundreds of thousands it would seem to me that this is more than just covering costs as you explain.
You may not like my opinion, but I would not be surprised if a large percentage of new users also felt the same way.

Not sure why you so worried about PM. I don't use my PM's that much and will rather discuss in the forum. As of late I have noticed less "PM's" (spam) so the new rule works. If you want to stick around 50 posts is nothing and can be a bit frustrated but shows commitment.

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Elmer Hurlstone

14 years ago

Each and every time I see posts complaining about the TOS and rules here I think of people who buy houses off the end of a preexisting airport runway--and then gripe about aircraft noise.

If you don't like the sound of aircraft overhead don't build, buy or rent a house right off the runway.

If you don't like the conditions on this forum don't join. Membership is not mandatory.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Elmer Hurlstone

Each and every time I see posts complaining about the TOS and rules here I think of people who buy houses off the end of a preexisting airport runway--and then gripe about aircraft noise.

If you don't like the sound of aircraft overhead don't build, buy or rent a house right off the runway.

If you don't like the conditions on this forum don't join. Membership is not mandatory.

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I had to laugh when I saw that, Elmer. We're dealing with that
very issue right now!

Pauline and I own the snack bar at the local airport where we
mainly serve food to the skydivers who come out on weekends.

Now, it was a simple grass strip built by the Bass Pecan Company
in the '40s, and graduated to an asphalt runway about 20 years ago.

It was used pretty much exclusively by the Bass company until sometime
in the middle '90s when it became a popular cocaine drop.

When the skydivers made the deal to move here, the owner of the
dropzone made several thousand dollars worth of improvements out
of his own pocket in exchange for a 5 year lease at a dollar a year.

Last year sometime, a lady bought a house directly inline with the
runway and now she's trying to get us shut down because the airplane
scares her horses.

We've been fighting city hall tooth and nail for almost a year now
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it was a paid forum, period.

I got my membership by virtue of having a Host4Profit account.

Some time later it turned into a free to join forum and the quality
really went downhill for a while. Allen even entertained the thought of
shutting it down at one time.

But now,Allen and his people have done a fantastic job pulling everything
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Anybody that doesn't contribute to that restoration isn't going to find
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

I don't agree that new members are welcome and supported. Obstacles are put up like the 50 posts to pm, and and 10 pm limits in the mailbox to frustrate the process.

It seems to me like you're not reading the comments in this thread. They've explained exactly why the "obstacles" are there and that they're for everyone's benefit.

The only new members that are not welcome are spammers. Would you rather get deluged with crap and have to wade around in it to find the good stuff?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

I don't agree that new members are welcome and supported. Obstacles are put up like the 50 posts to pm, and and 10 pm limits in the mailbox to frustrate the process.
I have spent time in a lot of other marketing forums and this one seems more geared to monetizing their userbase. With traffic in the hundreds of thousands it would seem to me that this is more than just covering costs as you explain.
You may not like my opinion, but I would not be surprised if a large percentage of new users also felt the same way.

Unfortunately, the only way to get through to people to respect this place is via the wallet.

If you got better ideas, let's hear them.

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Ken Strong 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher

Unfortunately, the only way to get through to people to respect this place is via the wallet.

If you got better ideas, let's hear them.

Don't think so, Floyd -- he's been banned (yet again, apparently).
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- Floyd Fisher 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by KenStrong
  
  Don't think so, Floyd -- he's been banned (yet again, apparently).
  
  Good riddance. If these guys knew how much I had to pay just to get in the door, they would be thanking their lucky stars it's so cheap today.
  
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  Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher
  
  Good riddance. If these guys knew how much I had to pay just to get in the door, they would be thanking their lucky stars it's so cheap today.
  
  Thank you Floyd!
  
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  Once the forum got opened to anybody and
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  That's when most of the whiners and complainers
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halfpoint 14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

You may also consider that genuine new members will also be posting a lot of spam or weak posts just to get to that 50 barrier.

You can be assured that if they are posting one liners to boost their post count those posts won't be sticking around very long and they'll be back where they started.

It's pretty simple, really. If you don't want to spend a very small amount of money to be a part of this community, then don't. Deal with the restrictions that are in place.

If you're not happy with either option, you don't have to be. No one is forcing you to be here.
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

It seems like most of the more senior members are in support of this rule. You may also consider that genuine new members will also be posting a lot of spam or weak posts just to get to that 50 barrier.

Good. That allows us to more easily remove the people who dont belong.

Also, if I make a purchase from an wso or classified, that supports thosemembers who are paying fees for their listing. Although indirect, that is a financial benefit to the forum.

Use email. There isnt a reason you *need* PMs.

It seems new members are not appreciated or encouraged here compared to other forums.

wah. wah. wah. Then go to them.

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Chris W. Sutton 14 years ago

Quite honestly, I don't think ANYONE should be allowed ANY privileges until they hit 2,050 posts. It only makes sense!
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14 years ago

Spam, spam, spam spam. Once you have received a few PM's from "SEO Experts" offering their services you will understand.

Originally Posted by broker12

I just tried to send a pm and it said I needed 50 posts to do so. This seems like a high requirement. Why is this forum so restrictive?

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Originally Posted by jazbo

Spam, spam, spam spam. Once you have received a few PM's from "SEO Experts" offering their services you will understand.

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14 years ago

good strategy to fight spam

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Originally Posted by reverso89

good strategy to fight spam

good start toward your 50

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VegasGreg

14 years ago

If you are new to the forum, who and what do you have to PM so soon? A forum is a forum where things tend to be discussed out in the open. If you don't even know people here and have yet to see how we operate, what is with the urgent need to PM?

If you are buying a WSO or Classified, the sellers provide email addresses to reach them, or you can post in the thread to provide an email.

50 is a good number. Spammers usually don't stick around that long or we weed them out and ban them before they get to 50.

If the "other" forums don't care and they are so great, why would one migrate away from them over to here? (hint: because we are better.)

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JMPruitt

14 years ago

It really does not take long to get to 50 posts if you join the conversations. No big deal. I have been on a lot of forums in different areas, and this one has less spam than any of the others I have joined. If they have some strict rules to ensure that level of quality remains, GREAT.

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seriousmny

14 years ago

I agree with the 50 number. This forum is a great place and it is mainly because of the protective measures that have been put in place. If you be a spammer my man...you've come to the wrong place. We will find you and weed you out. I want no part of shady individuals looking to fill the forum with spam and questionable offers taking advantage of newbies.

But I digress, please forgive me if this does not apply to you; I am always ready to give an apology when I am wrong.

To keep this forum clean and spam free...certain measures have been placed. Just be patient and you will be able to PM and post as much as you want provided you are one of the good guys and you've come to contribute and learn a thing or two.

If you've come to spam, I'll be one of the ones reporting you to the the proper authorities here in the forum.

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14 years ago

this should curb the spammers away...

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14 years ago

There are some members here who have over ten thousand posts of top info.....What is fifty posts an admin rule.
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Rod Cortez

14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

I just tried to send a pm and it said I needed 50 posts to do so. This seems like a high requirement. Why is this forum so restrictive?

I don't find this restrictive at all. Think of those 50 posts as your probation period to see if you're going to participate, learn, and be a productive member with good intentions. This forum has been around a long time and has evolved over the years. There are plenty of good reasons to have it at 50.

Personally, I think it should be set at 51, but hey......

It takes time to absorb the information in here, but it also takes time to learn the rules, both written and unwritten. We just want to see if a newcomer has what it takes to be a part of this fantastic community and the 50 post limit to PM is merely one of them.

How people react to the rules and some of the limitations will demonstrate whether or not they belong here.

If you come in here with the right mindset and work ethic, this forum is pure gold and will put more money in your wallet than you ever thought possible. Not to mention the networking and friendships you can make here.

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Jill Carpenter

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Elmer Hurlstone

Membership is not mandatory.

Well, not if you don't really care about making money.

Honestly, if this person sees fit to whine about this after it was simply explained, they are probably just spinning their wheels here.

If you are going to fight it every time you find something you don't like about a site online, you will never get anywhere. Flexibility is very important - especially if you don't have money to get your WR membership or funds to invest when you are just starting out.

Life is full of obstacles, Business is full of obstacles.

You know, I don't like a lot of rules on a lot of different sites. Tough noogies to me. I either abide by them or get out.

Anyway, do me a favor - if you ever see me selling something in the WSO's don't ever buy from me. I'm sure there would be obstacles in the process somewhere and I'd hate to see you have to deal with them. Like, you may not be able to use paypal for some silly reason, or you might get my materials and realize you'll need to learn something new before you can follow a plan .... Who knows...

It could actually involve some kind of "work" on your part.

If you're unable to see an obstacle as a fun new challenge that is rewarded with the great feeling of self accomplishment then I probably won't have anything you want.

Just saving us both some time and headaches.

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Zanti

14 years ago

I received some spam just yesterday, so I'm glad for the new rule.

Not sure I really get what the issue is around pm's. I don't think I used the pm function until I was around 100 post and that was because of buying a service from a fellow warrior.

I've recently seen comments from several people with low post counts complaining about not being able to pm and I keep wondering just who are they pm'ing and why.

When I first started here I saw the value of this forum. I wanted to learn IM. I posted a question and received over 50 replys in less than two hours.

The information I received was invaluable, along with the members I have met.

If someone isn't willing to stay around for 50 quality post it is not this forum that will be the loser.

If more new members here thought more about contributing and less about getting than there wouldn't as many issues

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Keith Boisvert 14 years ago

LOL. What no one knows is that when you reach 50 posts and are able to pm people the world becomes a better place...

The sun is always shining, money starts pouring into multiple paypal accounts,world peace is achieved, unicorns are able to roam free, and of course Lindsey Lohan stops using drugs ...

Because we all know once you are able to send and receive pm's here on the WF, big name marketers are chomping at the bit to email you and offer you an exclusive JV partnership that will make you gazillions of dollars.

Damn that pesky pm rule. If only.

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misterwrecker

14 years ago

I actually just received a spam PM from someone with 0 posts and just joined this month.

I just checked the PM again to make sure and now it says that he's banned.

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Istvan Horvath

14 years ago

I really don't see what the OP's issue is with the PM restrictions....

Maybe I am shy but I remember when I joined this forum for a while I was just reading. Not even posting, although I could have.

Then I asked my very first question, seeking advice with a page - and simply was overwhelmed by the helpful replies and excellent ideas that I was given for free. A lot of "senior" members posted long and detailed analysis, showing me what to change and how to make that page better.
So, no, I don't believe a word if anybody is saying this forum doesn't welcome new members!

However, in most of the threads I was still a silent lurker, trying to understand and digest all the information that was thrown at me

Later I have noticed questions and threads where, based on my earlier experience, I knew the answer (mainly HTML, CSS and WP). This is how I started to contribute something, trying to help. I didn't need PM for that.

I guess I sent my first PM weeks after signing up - just because a WSO requested to send in the payment details. Other than that I didn't send PMs because I didn't know anybody.

Do you know how I got my first (not WSO-related) PM? A WF member read my posts and figured I could help her with a WP issue. She asked me and I was glad I could give her a hand... That's how you start building relations.

And this forum, besides learning a lot, is about relationships.

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14 years ago

Just think, broker12 (if that is indeed your REAL name!!!), if you would have replied to each post in this thread, you would have been well over 50 by now.

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14 years ago

Eh, 50's no big deal. I just found out about it since I do some pms for adswap purposes. It just makes it easier to manage 1 on 1 conversations. But most of the time, if that's going to happen, we exchange emails and move from there.

So you need 50 posts? Ok. I'll contribute more than just my list. Besides, how does my "list contribution" help the forum here beyond just those individuals who want to participate with me?

All in all, I completely agree with the 50 minimum. Keeps me giving back to the group! (and everybody else, too)

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14 years ago

I don't agree with all the members above who say I should just accept the rules or leave. That sounds pretty authoritarian in nature. In an open forum opinions from all members should be heard and ultimately influence the operations of the forum.

50 posts is not the only solution or necessarily the most effective means to keep out spammers. Why is there no itrader system here? I have been burned already by two members who did not provide the services promised. Allowing members with several positive itraders to use pm could limit spammers and encourage members who are here more to make transactions than chat in the forums.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

I don't agree with all the members above who say I should just accept the rules or leave. That sounds pretty authoritarian in nature. In an open forum opinions from all members should be heard and ultimately influence the operations of the forum.

broker12, the fact that this thread is still alive is evidence that your opinion is being heard. Along with several people who do not agree with you. Whether or not these opinions influence the operations of the forum is up to the forum owner. Sometimes they do. Sometimes they don't.

It's kind of like those "No Shoes, No Shirt, No Service" signs you see on stores and restaurants. Them's the rules, so if you want to go inside, you slip on a shirt and some shoes...

By the way, did you notice you're already over halfway to your 50?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

broker12, the fact that this thread is still alive is evidence that your opinion is being heard. Along with several people who do not agree with you. Whether or not these opinions influence the operations of the forum is up to the forum owner. Sometimes they do. Sometimes they don't.

It's kind of like those "No Shoes, No Shirt, No Service" signs you see on stores and restaurants. Them's the rules, so if you want to go inside, you slip on a shirt and some shoes...

By the way, did you notice you're already over halfway to your 50?

Yes I noticed that I am progressing towards 50. Honestly though I feel that my time would be better spent being able to make purchases that support the members offering services. Having the 50 post requirement and 10 messages storage limit impedes that process. I understand the point is to limit spam, but I don't see it as the most effective method.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

Yes I noticed that I am progressing towards 50. Honestly though I feel that my time would be better spent being able to make purchases that support the members offering services. Having the 50 post requirement and 10 messages storage limit impedes that process. I understand the point is to limit spam, but I don't see it as the most effective method.

I really don't see how the 50 post requirement and the 10 message storage limit could possibly impede the process of buying WSO's? I buy WSO's all the time (more than I should probably

) and almost never PM during the process. It just isn't necessary.

And as Michael said, the $37 investment in the War Room is well worth it. You do realize that many paid forums are a MONTHLY fee? The War Room is one time, and then those limitations that you have such a problem with are no longer an issue.

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broker12

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Razer Rage

Wrong.

This forum is owned and operated by one person: Allen Says. Allen calls the shots, period. This is not a democracy.

And in case you haven't noticed, the majority of the people who posted actually support the notion of having the requirements of 50 posts, which is a very minimal requirement for even a semi-active member.

Does the admin and his staff listen to members feedback and take it seriously? Yes. But ultimately, they have the last say, and it's up to them to do what is best for the forum, not what's the most convenient for its members.

EDIT: I agree though on having a sort of a feedback system for members who sell products and services though.

You don't see the contradiction in your post? You don't like the feedback system here? The members above would advise you to stop whining, and love it or leave the forum.

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Istvan Horvath

14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

I don't agree with all the members above who say I should just accept the rules or leave. That sounds pretty authoritarian in nature.

And what's wrong with a site owner being authoritarian on his own site?
(Didn't you read a few posts above that this is NOT a democracy...? And it shouldn't be - if you ask me)

Originally Posted by broker12

In an open forum opinions from all members should be heard and ultimately influence the operations of the forum.

1. Define "open forum"
2. Your opinion has been heard.
3. If it was mine forum - nobody's opinion would influence its operation. I guess Allen thinks the same (although I've never spoken to him)

Originally Posted by broker12

Why is there no itrader system here?

Not a good start criticizing the owner how he runs his forum.
Actually, the question has been raised several times just in the year since I am a member, and has always been rejected.
Threads "giving advice" how to run the forum, usually get deleted by the mods...

Originally Posted by broker12

I have been burned already by two members who did not provide the services promised.

If it was a WSO - contact the helpdesk.

Originally Posted by broker12

Allowing members with several positive itraders to use pm could limit spammers and encourage members who are here more to make transactions than chat in the forums.

Forget itraders, it won't be used - we were told.
Spammers are persistent, be happy that nobody perceived you as one

BTW, we don't chat - we try to educate you... but you are stubborn

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

I don't agree with all the members above who say I should just accept the rules or leave. That sounds pretty authoritarian in nature. In an open forum opinions from all members should be heard and ultimately influence the operations of the forum.

Is your name Dennis?

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Michael,

Is your name Dennis?

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dsmpublishing

14 years ago

Hi guys

ive been on here for just over a year now and i never even noticed this rule!!!

its a good call though as i remember when i first got involved in internet marketing i joined about 10 forums and this one is the only one i am still part of. There is hardly any spam and even if there is any it is soon stamped out before they can even cause any damage.

therefore i salute the warrior forum for making it so great for all us marketers.

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robyrobertson

14 years ago

I am enjoying this forum. This is funny. You will always see people that don't really want to work hard. To be honest I have no idea how many posts I have made and but I am getting great tips and participating when I think it is worthwhile.

As I have told people my whole career. If you don't like it here then leave...

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raylm123

14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

It seems new members are not appreciated or encouraged here compared to other forums.

As a newer member, I couldn't disagree more with this statement. The amount of highly valuable information and guidance available on this forum for FREE is unparalleled.

The "let's give back to the community" attitude of many of the senior members and most successful marketers is what makes the Warrior Forum a misnomer -- it should be called the Warrior Community because that's exactly what it is. Being a member is a privilege.

Originally Posted by broker12

Why is there no itrader system here? I have been burned already by two members who did not provide the services promised. Allowing members with several positive itraders to use pm could limit spammers and encourage members who are here more to make transactions than chat in the forums.

Seriously????

I've had to file so many paypal disputes with users on an unnamed forum that uses itrader, for taking my money and not providing anything in return. I've never had to file one with a Warrior! itrader is a joke.

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John Taylor 14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

In an open forum opinions from all members should be heard and ultimately influence the operations of the forum.

You are totally and absolutely right.

Now go back through this thread and see how
many people support your argument and how
many are in support of the 50 post limit.

It's OK I'll wait while you do the counting...

..OK. Welcome back. :-)

Now are you willing to accept that most of us are
perfectly happy with a rule that makes spamming
us more difficult?

We tend to put the interests of the forum members
first. That's people we know, peole we trust, people
with names.

They are much more important that non-entities and
forum spammers.

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sande 14 years ago

This was a question which I was going to ask too. The people to are telling this guy to go somewhere else are not being fair. His/her opinion is 10-15 and the admin is 50. We know which one matters anyway. Let us not be so rude. As you can see I am one of the affected but it is good to know the reason behind it. SPAM.
So I keep posting.....
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Steven Wagenheim 14 years ago

Almost 3 years ago, a friend of mine from another forum where I was a
moderator said to me, "Hey Steve, I know you like it here, but you really
should go on over to the Warrior Forum. They've got some really great
people over there and I think you could contribute a lot."

I had never even heard of the Warrior Forum until that day. There I was,
almost 4 years marketing online and didn't even know this place existed.

Gives you an idea of what a small world I lived in.

Well, my first day I decided I was going to contribute...a lot. I went through
as many threads as I could where people had questions and answered them.
And I'm not talking about a couple of sentence answers either. I'm talking
some long ass winded posts.

I made 80 of them that day.

I was almost run out of here on a rail.

Why am I telling you this story?

You may think that 50 posts is a lot. It's not. Any wing ding with way too
much time on his hands (like me) can make 50 posts.

But please take my advice as somewhere who has been there, done that,
paid the price for it, and learned a painful lesson the hard way.

DON'T MAKE THEM ALL IN ONE DAY!

There are a lot of people here whose respect I could have earned but I
blew it on that very first day. It won't matter if I'm a member here for
20 years. Once you screw up, it lives with your forever.

I am telling you this as a friend. Obey the rules, deal with them, and
become a respected and valuable member of this community. If you do
that, you will find that there will be a lot of people here who would sooner
do business with you than me.

With my 13,000 plus posts.

Posts are nothing. They are meaningless. But a spammer won't take the
time to make them. They're just interested in making a quick score and
getting out of Dodge. Thus, the post requirements, as well as other things
here, are put into place.

You may not like it. But the rules are there to keep this forum from turning
into Digital Point and all the other forums out there that aren't worth
going to anymore.

One day, you'll thank me for this post.

Maybe not today or tomorrow...but someday.

When you kept from making the same stupid ass mistakes that I made.

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twright

14 years ago

Argue your way to 50 posts, thanks for the idea.

Now to not get banned before you get to 50.

Complete the cycle by agreements and appreciation

you can learn something in every post here I swear

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Shawn Mason

14 years ago

Honestly just join the war room, it's worth 10x what it costs.. and you can send all the PM's you want

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mello

14 years ago

50 posts? Yeah I was a tad narked when it prevented me sending a pm for an offer I wanted to take up - only because it slowed me down. But hey, I'm not as active in IM as I plan to be and Im here when I can be to learn and soak up the wisdom. In the meantime it's easy enough to post about an offer and the marketer will usually pm you to start the conversation.

The 50 post rule actually makes me post and I try to make sure I contribute to the conversations - making members more active is a good thing rather than always lurking.

Overall, not a big issue especially if it adds to the value of the forum. When I'm ready to be more active I'll join the war room and then there's no issue.

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Laura B

14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

You don't see the contradiction in your post? You don't like the feedback system here? The members above would advise you to stop whining, and love it or leave the forum.

You're not even being reasonable. Why don't you take a break, step back, maybe sleep on it, and then come back. I think you'll see that you're being silly.

You may have gotten off on the wrong foot here, but it's not too late to turn that around. It's a forgiving and reasonable bunch of people here.

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Michael Oksa

14 years ago

And...there could always be NO private messaging system at all.

Also, spending the $37 on a 20 YEAR War Room subscription may keep you from ever having to buy a WSO again, seriously. It's not an expense, it's an investment.

I have no idea which WSOs you are interested in, but a lot of Warriors GIVE away free copies in the War Room.

You mention that your time could be better spent buying WSOs instead of trying to get to 50 posts?!? Seriously? Your time would be better spent making decent posts instead of b**ching all freaking day.

You really have received some excellent advice in this thread, trust me. We were all new here once. I actually got jumped on for trying to give money away. I was miffed, but after a while, I understood. It made sense after I let go of my ego and stopped trying to prove I was right. And I WAS right, but they were right, too...from their perspective.

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J Bold

14 years ago

Well, once you get to 50 you won't be complaining anymore. So go make some helpful, useful posts!

But, really, this is probably the number one internet marketing forum on the internet, they can do what they want with it.

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Killer Joe 14 years ago

Originally Posted by redicelander

Well, once you get to 50 you won't be complaining anymore.

Well, once this thread is retired to the graveyard and the posts you have made here evaporate don't start a new thread complaining you just lost a bunch of posts.

None of those post were about internet marketing, they were about the internal politics of this forum.

My guess is the only reason this thread lasted as long as it has is the inevitable cropping up of other threads on this topic if this one weren't here. That's a short term situation at best.

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14 years ago

Honestly, if this forum required 500 posts before you "get your wings", I wouldn't complain. I would just get with the program and start being a part of the community.

Being a member of this forum has meant more to my career as an IM'er than any other single thing I can think of.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by absolutelee

Honestly, if this forum required 500 posts before you "get your wings", I wouldn't complain. I would just get with the program and start being a part of the community.

Being a member of this forum has meant more to my career as an IM'er than any other single thing I can think of.

Consider yourself lucky to have found us.

Agreed.

I've only been here for a short time and the knowledge of this place is completely overwhelming. I've kept a membership to the original site that got me into IM and the forum there is nowhere near what it is here. Even all of the tutorials and guides they offer don't compare to information you can get from this place.

There's so much experience here, people that not only talk the talk but walk the walk, and there willing to take time to give out information that others marketers are paying top dollar for.

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The funny thing about this thread is this "person" is the spammer that caused this new 50 post rule, and he is in here bitching about it.

LOL! Talk about ironic.

He created hundreds of names and every single one of them had numbers after them - every one - just like broker12...

I have no doubt you are the spammer who now cries because your spam tool you just bought sucks and doesn't work.

If this wasn't so funny I would have already banned you but I'm going to wait a little while. Probably when you hit post 49...LOL!

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Originally Posted by admin

If this wasn't so funny I would have already banned you but I'm going to wait a little while. Probably when you hit post 49...LOL!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by admin

The funny thing about this thread is this "person" is the spammer that caused this new 50 post rule, and he is in here bitching about it.

LOL! Talk about ironic.

He created hundreds of names and every single one of them had numbers after them - every one - just like broker12...

I have no doubt you are the spammer who now cries because your spam tool you just bought sucks and doesn't work.

If this wasn't so funny I would have already banned you but I'm going to wait a little while. Probably when you hit post 49...LOL!

You are a party pooper!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by admin

The funny thing about this thread is this "person" is the spammer that caused this new 50 post rule, and he is in here bitching about it.

LOL! Talk about ironic.

He created hundreds of names and every single one of them had numbers after them - every one - just like broker12...

I have no doubt you are the spammer who now cries because your spam tool you just bought sucks and doesn't work.

If this wasn't so funny I would have already banned you but I'm going to wait a little while. Probably when you hit post 49...LOL!

You never miss a beat Allen!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by admin

The funny thing about this thread is this "person" is the spammer that caused this new 50 post rule, and he is in here bitching about it.

If this wasn't so funny I would have already banned you but I'm going to wait a little while. Probably when you hit post 49...LOL!

You know, I thought he was beating the dead horse a little too long to be a "real" person! I fail to understand how anyone with half a brain cell thinks they can game the system without getting called out eventually, and in this case, sooner rather than later. Good going, Allen.

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broker12....where arrrrre youuuuuu?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by admin

The funny thing about this thread is this "person" is the spammer that caused this new 50 post rule, and he is in here bitching about it.

LOL! Talk about ironic.

He created hundreds of names and every single one of them had numbers after them - every one - just like broker12...

I have no doubt you are the spammer who now cries because your spam tool you just bought sucks and doesn't work.

If this wasn't so funny I would have already banned you but I'm going to wait a little while. Probably when you hit post 49...LOL!

I've been reading this thread since it started - what a great conclusion!

Allen, you have a wicked sense of humor!

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Paul Myers 14 years ago

Why is this forum so restrictive?

I don't agree with all the members above who say I should just accept the rules or leave. That sounds pretty authoritarian in nature.

Read this member's posts. The majority are complaints, and not only in this thread.

Here's a little warning, "broker12" : There are only so many broadband providers in any given area, even one as large as SoCal. Even if you're proxying, there's someone who can trace you back to your source. So, the question is, how many providers do you want to have to go through to keep polluting our space?

It is probably in your best interests to forget that the Warrior Forum exists.

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rosetrees

14 years ago

Originally Posted by admin

The funny thing about this thread is this "person" is the spammer that caused this new 50 post rule, and he is in here bitching about it..........

If this wasn't so funny I would have already banned you but I'm going to wait a little while. Probably when you hit post 49...LOL!

Damn you Allen - I'm laid up with a fluey/cold and that just gave me a serious coughing and spluttering fit. That's the funniest thing I've read for ages. I see you cracked and banned him after 35. The show's over guys. Ah well.

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JohnMcCabe

14 years ago

Originally Posted by sande

This was a question which I was going to ask too. The people to are telling this guy to go somewhere else are not being fair. His/her opinion is 10-15 and the admin is 50. We know which one matters anyway. Let us not be so rude. As you can see I am one of the affected but it is good to know the reason behind it. SPAM.
So I keep posting.....
Grace

Grace, there's a big difference between simply asking a question and throwing a hissy fit and calling the admin stupid. Then he continued flogging his point beyond reasonable curiosity.

You, on the other hand, seem to be a lady of good sense and manners. Keep contributing - you're very welcome here as far as I'm concerned.

Originally Posted by avenuegirl

I like that rule! I may need to send in a support ticket. I want pictures out of the deal as well. Your avatars should be of what your feet look like while posting.

I'd probably have something with an open toe. It would serve you right...:p

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by admin

The funny thing about this thread is this "person" is the spammer that caused this new 50 post rule, and he is in here bitching about it.

LOL! Talk about ironic.

He created hundreds of names and every single one of them had numbers after them - every one - just like broker12...

I have no doubt you are the spammer who now cries because your spam tool you just bought sucks and doesn't work.

If this wasn't so funny I would have already banned you but I'm going to wait a little while. Probably when you hit post 49...LOL!

I wish I had read this before I had replied to that idiot trying to get him
to be a valuable member of this community.

To the OP...please disregard my previous post. It was obviously meant
for somebody who doesn't drag his arms on the floor and eats bananas
all day long.

Boy, now don't I feel like a dope.

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rtrotter

14 years ago

I would say most new users never notice the 50 limit because they are too busy learning from all the great content and getting their questions answered.

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DogScout

14 years ago

There is so much useful information here, and in fact if not for this forum, my life might have taken much more difficult and precarious turn than it has so far with this forum, that if Allen said no posting unless you were wearing high heels, I'd be wearing high heels

! (At least for a while. Lol

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WinsonYeung

14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

I just tried to send a pm and it said I needed 50 posts to do so. This seems like a high requirement. Why is this forum so restrictive?

This is because Allen want to keep this forum as good as possible - get rid of all the spammer that might use warriorforum as a platform.

The 50 post won't affect much if you want to make contribution to the forum

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TheWealthSquad

14 years ago

To be honest I wasn't even aware of the PM feature for the longest time after joining. I was too busy absorbing knowledge and seeing some really cool people share a tremendous amount. If you want to talk to someone bad enough you can manage it even without PMs. My first PMs were people asking me for more information. I don't think I have still sent one out first. Kinda like meeting someone for the first time. I have trouble with Hello but am perfectly fine after that :0 50 posts, 100 posts, doesn't really matter to me. Joining the War Room was the best money I have spent in IM. Reading the forum is the best time I have invested in IM

Money and time are what you invest to achieve your dreams. If you can't wait to PM.. post your email address.. I am sure you will get plenty of mail

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Wakunahum

14 years ago

Surely you could come up with a series of legitimate questions to ask people. There are experts on the forum who are willing to help you.

I don't even think I knew the PM feature existed till I was well past 100 posts because I spent time asking questions on subjects I wasn't sure about.

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Steven Wagenheim

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Wakunahum

Surely you could come up with a series of legitimate questions to ask people. There are experts on the forum who are willing to help you.

I don't even think I knew the PM feature existed till I was well past 100 posts because I spent time asking questions on subjects I wasn't sure about.

And that's another thing. Why would you even have to PM somebody? In
the 3 years I've been here, aside from answering the insane number of PMs
I get, I may have initiated 3 PMs in 3 years.

I mean what's so darn important that you have to PM another person?

If it's about a WSO, post the question in the thread itself.

Other than that, if you want to nag somebody about a JV, how about
doing some research on the person, finding their email address and
write to them personally?

Hell, if they took the PM function out of this forum, I wouldn't even care.

Strike that...I'd jump for joy.

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ShaneRQR

14 years ago

PM sent.

(Just kidding.)

I bet many people don't even know the 50 posts before PM rule because they don't try to send PMs anytime before they hit 50 posts anyway.
I would have not known about it, were it not for this thread.

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

And that's another thing. Why would you even have to PM somebody? In
the 3 years I've been here, aside from answering the insane number of PMs
I get, I may have initiated 3 PMs in 3 years.

I mean what's so darn important that you have to PM another person?

If it's about a WSO, post the question in the thread itself.

Other than that, if you want to nag somebody about a JV, how about
doing some research on the person, finding their email address and
write to them personally?

Hell, if they took the PM function out of this forum, I wouldn't even care.

Strike that...I'd jump for joy.

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Lisa Gergets

14 years ago

Quote:
Originally Posted by DogScout

... if Allen said no posting unless you were wearing high heels, I'd be wearing high heels!

I like that rule! I may need to send in a support ticket. I want pictures out of the deal as well. Your avatars should be of what your feet look like while posting.

Hey Jill, wanna JV on an info product on how to get rid of bunions? We'll be RICH!!!

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Fox30

14 years ago

Sign up as a War Room member and you shouldn't have any restrictions. Not to mention the fact that it is an invaluable resource.

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XRevJosh

14 years ago

I agree it doesnt take that long to get 50 post count and this most deff. rules out the spammers.

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Jwest

14 years ago

Yes I do agree it keeps the spammers out!! However I am a newbie and I really dont have much to offer in the way of advice, strategies, or WSO. I basically am on here reading, learning, and bought a few WSO's. It would be nice to PM the once in a while for just a question. So not sure how I will get my 50 posts ? How much does it cost to be a member, I had trouble finding that info. Thanks

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TheWealthSquad

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jwest

Yes I do agree it keeps the spammers out!! However I am a newbie and I really dont have much to offer in the way of advice, strategies, or WSO. I basically am on here reading, learning, and bought a few WSO's. It would be nice to PM the once in a while for just a question. So not sure how I will get my 50 posts ? How much does it cost to be a member, I had trouble finding that info. Thanks

If you have a question, ask it in the forum. This will accomplish two things. It will get your post count up and it will get you far more information than you imagine.

Cost is $37 to join the War room.. not $37 a year but $37 for 20 years. Less than a cup of coffee a year. Less than the change you can find on the street every day. The best deal WSO you will ever find.

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Jill Carpenter

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jwest

Yes I do agree it keeps the spammers out!! However I am a newbie and I really dont have much to offer in the way of advice, strategies, or WSO. I basically am on here reading, learning, and bought a few WSO's. It would be nice to PM the once in a while for just a question. So not sure how I will get my 50 posts ? How much does it cost to be a member, I had trouble finding that info. Thanks

Before you log into the forum, there is a little red triangle in the bottom corner of your browser. Just click it.

War Room is 37 bucks.

Alternatively, you can just click on the link in my sig that says "war room uncut" and you can watch a nice little video and get a link to a payment button.

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Bhaskar Jain

14 years ago

Well, rules are rules and they are in place to stop spammers and make this forum run effectively.

I agree with you... yeah, 50 seems to be a huge amount of posts but when you gel along with the community and start contributing, you'd see your post count going up in like a flash!

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Troy_Phillips

14 years ago

I have sent a total of 11 pm's since I have been on here ( I have replied back to a lot more)

Out of the eleven .... most were to let someone know their sig file link was dead..... One was to a directory owner on here because I needed to know one more thing before I purchased ( he replied ... I am now a member of his directory ) another was to a warrior that I felt was really trying to help themselves but just didn't have the money to go forward .

I offered them free help.... they took it and I made a new friend who will also be a new jv partner soon.

The point I am trying to make here is .... if you will give every chance you get ... good things will come back.

I'm sorry but if you can't either show you have something to contribute or that you are truly interested in learning true 101 marketing strategies in 50 post then why should the admin drop the required post ?

Really wonder what the intention of someone is when they bitch about not being able to pm in their first few post .

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butters

14 years ago

50 isn't so high, im sure if you want to contact people bad enough, you could always find alternative roots.

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JamesM

14 years ago

Mental. Only just found this restriction. I haven't been on the site for a couple of months, but have previously sent PMs without any issues. Seems a bit daft that I had the right and it's now been revoked, but at least now I know it's not personal! Guess I'll just have to post loads of pointless comments just to get my post count up to the required level...

Oh yeah - and when I just found the restriction I was trying to reply to a PM that somebody else had sent me. That just seems crazy....

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Ken Strong 14 years ago

Originally Posted by JamesM

Guess I'll just have to post loads of pointless comments just to get my post count up to the required level...

You are joking, right?
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Kelsey A. Helm

14 years ago

Ha ha - I agree Rob - and so you know you've made 18 posts

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lawrence barnes

14 years ago

Originally Posted by broker12

I just tried to send a pm and it said I needed 50 posts to do so. This seems like a high requirement. Why is this forum so restrictive?

I am new to this forum, but why do they require you to have 50 post?

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Ken Strong 14 years ago

Originally Posted by lawrence barnes

I am new to this forum, but why do they require you to have 50 post?

Did you read the entire thread? That should answer most of your questions.
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mywebwork 14 years ago

Originally Posted by lawrence barnes

I am new to this forum, but why do they require you to have 50 post?

Welcome to the forum Lawrence.

50 posts may seem restrictive, but for anyone whose intention is to become an active member of a vibrant community it's really nothing. I'm sure you have some skills or expertise that you can bring to the forum, and no doubt you have questions as well. As a new member you may still be exploring the forum, and in the time it takes to join in a few threads and exchange ideas you'll reach that minimum before you know it.

The restriction is a good thing, it prevents abuse of the forum by those whose only intention is to send unsolicited marketing attempts (i.e. SPAM) to members without contributing anything of value.

Ask questions, engage in conversations, thank other members where appropriate and demonstrate your expertise by sharing information with others. That's what this community is about, and if that is your intention then you'll find that you are most welcome here.

This next comment is by no means directed at you (with only a single post how could it be?!) - I'm finding these complaints about the post restrictions to be quite juvenile. This forum is a resource that many of us (myself included) value greatly. It costs money to host and takes time and effort to run and maintain. Some of the information you'll gain from here could very well start you on a road of wealth and prosperity. Rather than complain about a minimum post count new members should be grateful for the unique opportunity that the Warrior Forum offers them.

Again, welcome to the forum - we all look forward to your contributions.

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