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Hey Warriors,
Long time .

So.. I am wanting to setup an advertising campaign. I have been out of the loop for some years now and normally I would have reached out to folks to join me. I did reach out to a couple who apparently decided I was worthless.
cool. I hope something like this doesn't happen to them too.

I have been put in a position where I need to help my mom who I am staying with because the government just took 1k from her pension and now we can't live pay bills buy food gas etc. I have 400.00 to my name and have to get something going. My Mom borrowed it this morning

I was looking at some pop under ads. They say they are the best but everybody says they're the best and I get one shot. Also Popup and Pop under ads are annoying. LOL

PPC is not gonna do it for me in this case. My budget is not good enough. I became a web designer so I am gonna promote my business and see if I can't land a couple jobs as long as I can get 2 jobs a month I should be able to help my mom and me too. Well. I hope anyway.

Ideas? Experiences? Please do share.
thanks a lot.
-WD

Edit: I went with local advertising 300.00 for 13 weeks. Not exactly what I had in mind but no time to screw around.
#advertising
  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    I suggest you look up Savidged4's posts on this topic. Or his thread on selling on Ebay (he shows, step-by-step, how he got his son to convert $45 into lots and lots of dollars).
    https://www.warriorforum.com/warrior...days-ebay.html



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    Originally Posted by WD Mino View Post

    Hey Warriors, Long time .

    So.. I am wanting to setup an advertising campaign. I have been out of the loop for some years now and normally I would have reached out to folks to join me. I did reach out to a couple who apparently decided I was worthless.
    cool. I hope something like this doesn't happen to them too.

    I have been put in a position where I need to help my mom who I am staying with because the government just took 1k from her pension and now we can't live pay bills buy food gas etc. I have 400.00 to my name and have to get something going. My Mom borrowed it this morning

    I was looking at some pop under ads. They say they are the best but everybody says they're the best and I get one shot. Also Popup and Pop under ads are annoying. LOL

    PPC is not gonna do it for me in this case. My budget is not good enough. I became a web designer so I am gonna promote my business and see if I can't land a couple jobs as long as I can get 2 jobs a month I should be able to help my mom and me too. Well. I hope anyway.

    Ideas? Experiences? Please do share.
    thanks a lot.
    -WD

    Edit: I went with local advertising 300.00 for 13 weeks. Not exactly what I had in mind but no time to screw around.
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  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    go freelancing bro, good to know that you have some sellable skill like web design.
    Maybe you need to adjust here n there but generally that skill will make you good money.
    Go to freelancers (own wf) or something like that.
    Hope you can finish 2022 strong with this ideaa
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    You could pick up a skill, like going to thrift stores and buying things for cheap (not clothes) and sell them on Mercari, Ebay, and Facebook Marketplace. It might not be the most ideal dream business, but it brings immediate return, and the startup investment is small.
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    • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      You could pick up a skill, like going to thrift stores and buying things for cheap (not clothes) and sell them on Mercari, Ebay, and Facebook Marketplace. It might not be the most ideal dream business, but it brings immediate return, and the startup investment is small.
      I utilize the local marketplaces here. I have sold most everything I list but still a couple things not sold. Going to thrift stores is actually a great way to get inventory , knick knacks, etc. I have made money doing that, bought a christmas display once recently for 7.00 sold it for 20.but one that sticks out is I bought an old tin toy set by Marx for 3.00 complete took it up to the antique store and sold it for 60.00 . Some real finds you can get doing that.

      Always good to have little gigs to help. However, I have to be able to offset my mom now because that's my responsibility.
      Nobody else is gonna do it and my family doesn't seem to care so, ha, watch me!

      My object posting was to come up with a good advertising method LOL

      This is a Marketing forum

      . Ebay kills you with fees, whereas, there are places that you can do well without being gauged that way. you sell something for 50.00 plus shipping but then you pay a final value fee on eBay, you need to do some pretty good volume to get into profit after expenses, I sold online for yrs.
      Nothing is guaranteed to sell. even if you have a good reputation and solid feedback

      I have been around enough to know how to diversify but my Opportunity cost is what is also a consideration.

      List Items for sale-staging, photos, editing =time.
      Ship. In Canada shipping is through the roof and sometimes you can end up paying to ship the thing rather than profiting. Plus, again, it takes my time. I don't know about anyone else but I value my time. so it has to make sense.

      Paypal-Paypal is awesome but again time is taken to withdraw. Nothing is immediate whereas locally with Web Design I can hop on the phone and my minimum payday is 350.00 takes me about 8-10 hrs to complete a starter package =profit.
      350.00 divided by 10=35.00 an hr.
      Payday is upon completion.

      If they order a bigger site my opportunity cost remains the same. I pay one time 300.00 if it lands 2 jobs at min 350.00 I reinvest and split the rest with my mom. If it gives one job I profit 50.00 but wouldn't reinvest but again split it.

      I have 4 packages depending on what is ordered my profit is guaranteed, regardless, but only if it works. PPC you can lose your shirt in so it wasn't an option for me.

      I have developed a local strategy that will help do what I need to but it will cost me 200.00 that puts my advertising cost up to 500.00 but the attention and potential far outweighs the risk of doing it.



      I had to come up with something that will make me stand out, benefit the community and draw attention to my business. You never look at a mountain and say I can't do it, you make that mountain crumble beneath your feet as you climb to the top.
      Watch me!


      Always Onwards,
      -WD
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      • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
        First, thrift stores...NO, they are not a "great" way to get inventory.

        Second, why does anyone want "inventory" to begin with? Inventory is money in storage, it is not being circulated...it is a future thing, and doesn't help anyone who needs money NOW, as I understand the OP.

        And the question is about advertising to sell his apparent web services, which is perplexing, why isn't he selling that service now, online with all the free and low cost places, like Fiverr, etc.?

        Here is a person counting on advertising to sell a service, a commodity readily available, easily found, and with a lot of competition. As far as developing a local strategy, vs., testing and implementing a local strategy which will work are two very different things.

        So, anyhow, first thing, CIRCULATION vs. Storage. That four hundred dollars can be immediately, in a few hours, be turned into 500 dollars with one simple transaction.

        As for the what, it doesn't matter. And in most parts of USA, Canada, one doesn't need much more than craigslist, Facebook Marketplace to find the 400 dollar item with a 100 dollar profit ready to be made, TODAY, now, cash in hand.

        Four hundred dollars can be grown, first by doing something, from my archives...one could clean headlights and make 100 a day in a couple of hours, (actual first hand experience). This just one of dozens of services which people will pay for today.

        OK, so DOING something is not for everyone. In the case of providing an online service, and someone wants to advertise locally...one way, and a very fast reliable way...is to do a co-op postcard mailing, using EDDM, and feature your web services on it while having other businesses pay for the cost of the ad. When several businesses share a ride on a postcard, it is very cost effective, and if ONE (say the OP) not only that, but each of the businesses could be a potential customer for your services.

        I don't have any clue as to what the advertising vehicle might be that the OP thinks is going to bring him two customers, but I'd bet the farm, it isn't going to work like that.

        So, there are two separate issues, first how to grow the 400 dollars, or how to spend the four hundred on some sort of advertising which will bring in business. I seriously doubt if the latter is going to happen. Why not just call businesses on the phone, get an appointment and go get some work that way? If you can't do it face to face, chances are you won't be able to do it remotely.

        When we speak of quick or fast money, most are naysayers, because they have never done it and don't know how...one HOW is by doing, by getting out and seeing people and doing something for them...which leaves most Warriors out in the corn fields of want and need.

        Then, when we understand the difference between storage and circulation, and how circ beats storage 364 days a year...then we keep the money out there working and growing and without the slop and mess of hours and hours and days, weeks and months of trying to build something up, when you can start at a higher level by simply finding those stored value items and flipping them with superior advertising on the marketplace of choice.

        So, yea.

        GordonJ


        Originally Posted by WD Mino View Post

        I utilize the local marketplaces here. I have sold most everything I list but still a couple things not sold. Going to thrift stores is actually a great way to get inventory , knick knacks, etc. I have made money doing that, bought a christmas display once recently for 7.00 sold it for 20.but one that sticks out is I bought an old tin toy set by Marx for 3.00 complete took it up to the antique store and sold it for 60.00 . Some real finds you can get doing that.

        Always good to have little gigs to help. However, I have to be able to offset my mom now because that's my responsibility.
        Nobody else is gonna do it and my family doesn't seem to care so, ha, watch me!

        My object posting was to come up with a good advertising method LOL

        This is a Marketing forum

        . Ebay kills you with fees, whereas, there are places that you can do well without being gauged that way. you sell something for 50.00 plus shipping but then you pay a final value fee on eBay, you need to do some pretty good volume to get into profit after expenses, I sold online for yrs.
        Nothing is guaranteed to sell. even if you have a good reputation and solid feedback

        I have been around enough to know how to diversify but my Opportunity cost is what is also a consideration.

        List Items for sale-staging, photos, editing =time.
        Ship. In Canada shipping is through the roof and sometimes you can end up paying to ship the thing rather than profiting. Plus, again, it takes my time. I don't know about anyone else but I value my time. so it has to make sense.

        Paypal-Paypal is awesome but again time is taken to withdraw. Nothing is immediate whereas locally with Web Design I can hop on the phone and my minimum payday is 350.00 takes me about 8-10 hrs to complete a starter package =profit.
        350.00 divided by 10=35.00 an hr.
        Payday is upon completion.

        If they order a bigger site my opportunity cost remains the same. I pay one time 300.00 if it lands 2 jobs at min 350.00 I reinvest and split the rest with my mom. If it gives one job I profit 50.00 but wouldn't reinvest but again split it.

        I have 4 packages depending on what is ordered my profit is guaranteed, regardless, but only if it works. PPC you can lose your shirt in so it wasn't an option for me.

        I have developed a local strategy that will help do what I need to but it will cost me 200.00 that puts my advertising cost up to 500.00 but the attention and potential far outweighs the risk of doing it.



        I had to come up with something that will make me stand out, benefit the community and draw attention to my business. You never look at a mountain and say I can't do it, you make that mountain crumble beneath your feet as you climb to the top.
        Watch me!


        Always Onwards,
        -WD
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    • Profile picture of the author art72
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      You could pick up a skill, like going to thrift stores and buying things for cheap (not clothes) and sell them on Mercari, Ebay, and Facebook Marketplace. It might not be the most ideal dream business, but it brings immediate return, and the startup investment is small.
      I
      Based on my current experience selling mostly 'used' items sourced locally, the [clothing game] is a tough sell, time consuming, and requires a ton of patience!!!

      Meanwhile, when you score a pair of Air Jordan Retro XI Playoffs Size: 12 from a thrift store for $20 in Brand New condition, it'll make your head spin - when you see people selling sneakers for $500+

      Also, if you research some of the Top Rated Sellers on say eBay (like Tech and Sports, Daily Refinement, etc) these guys sell millions in clothing... but, it's NOT EASY!

      I think it requires a larger inventory before you'll see ANY real consistency, BUT... the mark-ups, margins, and ROI's I've been getting average 450% - 600% gains (on average) with some items fetching 30 - 40 times the cost of acquisition!

      Again, not disputing the idea if you need quick money... "avoid selling clothing" - there is money in those niche markets as well, if you know what to look for, and, there are people moving truckloads of clothing, apparel, and tarzan lion cloth type stuff, LOL (*I'm nowhere near their caliber yet... working on it tho!)

      I would say kitchen wares, electronics, collectibles, and anything sport or pet related would likely sell quicker, as I have seen some success with those items so far.

      Although, I'm about done with "donating plasma" - around here in Florida - they've been paying about $130 - $150 per week (*as you can donate plasma 2X per week, if you are healthy enough) and for (2) people donating that's $1000 -$1200 per month in extra monies monthly - and, you don't need any experience!!! - We did BioLife (they are all over the US) and they were good to us!

      There's HUGE money in advertising, I just think it takes a lot of trial and error like anything else (*eBay for example), and if you are not careful and willing to survive the uphill learning curve, you could drop a chunk and not see a decent returns. (*AVOID "The DEATH PILE" - LOL)
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    Thanks everyone. Some good ideas.

    I wrote a product once which utilizes a very targeted traffic source and kicks ebay's butt doing it.
    It's not that I don't know things. It's that I had to do something immediately and nothing I know how to do is immediate.

    I only had 400.00 and while I might make some sales at ebay which I still utilize sometimes It isn't something that will bring me in business. It is something that would eat my minimal funds and to be honest I worked my ass off to learn this so I can help my mom because son of a gun I was ruined , lost absolutely everything and nearly my own life.

    No, it's ok folks. I will post a message when I execute the strategy I developed yesterday and you just watch and see if it doesn't do what I need.
    All I was looking for is advertising venues because I am pretty focused on this
    I paid for 13weeks of print advertising locally, if it leads to some work I will reinvest and if not I will invest elsewhere but I learned offline marketing from Michael Hiles he is a top guy and I know I can make something happen so I will.
    be well everyone, we are all in this together.

    Always onwards,
    -WD

    Edit: I signed off on the proof and it will run Sunday starting. Instant Eyeballs.
    If it lands 2 jobs I will reinvest.
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    That's exactly why Gordon. The marketplace is filled. Locally I can draw attention. I know how to do that so i am gonna give it a go but why I didn't think of multiplying the cash first is beyond me what a dummy. LOL OOPs.
    I will let you know how it goes but my plan is definitely gonna draw attention and show a side of me I want people to know .
    Always Onwards,
    -WD
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    • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
      Originally Posted by WD Mino View Post

      That's exactly why Gordon. The marketplace is filled. Locally I can draw attention. I know how to do that so i am gonna give it a go but why I didn't think of multiplying the cash first is beyond me what a dummy. LOL OOPs.
      I will let you know how it goes but my plan is definitely gonna draw attention and show a side of me I want people to know .
      Always Onwards,
      -WD
      As I understand your post, it is going to cost you 200 to 500 dollars to "draw local attention", once you have it, how do you convert attention to sales? Maybe you have that figured out too. You want us to WATCH you do it, so our eyes are upon you. Keep us posted.

      It seems you figured things out between the time you originally posted and today, so tomorrow is the first of your local print ad distribution, good luck with it. I'm skeptical, but hope to be proven wrong.

      GordonJ
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    Thanks Gordon.
    Be Well
    -WD

    Edit:

    I spent 300 on advertising and the other part of the strategy will cost me 200.00 to do I have to wait a few days before I can do it.

    You asked.
    "once you have it, how do you convert attention to sales?"
    My website will give what is needed for them to make a decision. There are examples and social proof now that I just completed my first job. The print advertising is only one part, like I said, I had to come up with something that will make me stand out , benefit the community I aim to pull cash out of and draw attention to my business, Advertising helps draw the attention and what I am going to do is very public and I will invite the local news down for it. An event sponsored by my company which will show a side of me people will want to deal with. I have to face an impossible situation now armed with some skills I didn't have a month ago, but, there are people who are doctors in this stuff and they run Agencies in the city. I have 0 shot if I don't do something that will make me stand out from them. Besides they can do backends and all sorts of stuff I can't do so I need to carve my own slice.

    Have an awesome day and I know you know what you are talking about Gordon.
    Thanks for chiming in.
    -WD
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  • Profile picture of the author agmccall
    Originally Posted by WD Mino View Post

    and now we can't live pay bills buy food gas etc. I have 400.00 to my name and have to get something going. My Mom borrowed it this morning
    And you spent most of that on advertising???? Ever read the story Jack and the Beanstalk

    al
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    LOL,
    Thanks for adding such great insight Al,
    Ever hear of Watch this?

    -WD

    I guess I should have been clearer. I am selling my possessions to help right now which is getting us through so far but I need much more than 40-50.00 a sale which I then split so my mom has some money.
    It wasn't an easy thing to post this. but, I didn't want to just make a choice because I am panicked,

    so far I have been able to make things work but enough of this I need money to come in, she has medication, gas and food prices are through the roof and I lost everything so I had to sit down and figure out a strategy.
    if you people wanna knock it good on ya but you have never known a person like me , you cannot stop me, so, if one thing doesn't work I will try again but I am gonna do this because if I don't my mom and I will become homeless.
    k
    thanks,
    -WD
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    • Profile picture of the author agmccall
      Originally Posted by WD Mino View Post

      LOL,
      Thanks for adding such great insight Al,
      Ever hear of Watch this?
      Yes but it is usually "Watch This, hold my beer"

      al
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    Cool,
    I paid for print advertising and they gave me both digital and print. It just came out.
    Here goes nothing.

    Edit:
    So the ad is a full banner ad and big companies use them to advertise.
    It has cost me 300.00 for the ad, it is running both digitally and in print for 13 weeks,
    It reaches the most populated areas and has a good readership which is why big companies advertise with them.
    It was the best shot I had so I took it.

    Now to begin planning the event.
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    HAHA,
    OK good one Al.
    Enjoy your day
    -WD
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    Perhaps the next time I pop in I will be in a much better position.
    I made some posts because I couldn't have people making it seem like I knew nothing.

    I mean I at one time did pretty well online.

    I just happened to have fallen on some unexpected and very hard times and I no longer have a list nor connections so I just thought I would be honest and say what I am wanting to do.

    I made lots of money off this forum and I treated people well I think so I kinda thought it would be ok if I just laid thigs out and saw what kind of advertising spots I could locate.

    Law of averages. More = More.
    I gave you all a venue you had no idea about which actually is awesome. It has the top people on there and I feel good someone may be able to utilize it.

    I did post the product to the war room after I tracked it down but you know they don't want it, so that's alright, I sold 80 copies of it on this forum without a refund so it's no big deal to me
    just thought it would be helpful, and valuable for people.

    Always Onwards Warriors.
    btw Just Watch Me is just an expression

    Until next time.
    -WD
    Rather than bump the post I will just add this.
    Since I signed off I have had some things happen, a little bit of money came in, My Mom bless her heart has gone off on an advertising campaign and now we have the yellow pages that is gonna help market us or something like that. She signed us up for a yar this morning which is cool but I still need to pay for it each month so -yikes. Another thing on my shoulders, she is trying though, which is awesome.
    I spoke with a friend of mine who is a pastor because I believe in Jesus Christ and he made an awesome suggestion to cold call churches and ministries and is writing a script up for me. Unclear whether he is giving me a reference or what it is but I am happy to have some help anyway.

    Locally I am all over and am starting to get hits on the site, that's the key, more people seeing it gives more chance of sales.

    I haven't executed my local strategy, that will probably happen next week. If it works, I may get some business and if not, I wasted my time and money, but, I have to try. My pastor friend is a senior guy in the PAOC here in Canada so if it goes well I could get in the door that way.


    No more updates, I need to get at it, but, that's what's up.
    -WD
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