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Which of the 2 is more accurate in your opinion? I find that Webalizer shows a considerably higher number of visits compared to Awstats. Thoughts?
#awstats #visits #webalizer
  • Profile picture of the author crimsonbook
    Seriously? Nobody at all??
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    • Profile picture of the author LesleyJohnston
      I would definitely recommend installing Google Analytics to your website instead of using these stats as it will give you a more indepth understanding of who your visitors are, where they are coming from and which pages on your website are the most popular and how your visitors are flowing through your website or where they are bouncing (leaving from the same page they landed on).

      If you need help installing Google Analytics on your website and need a little bit of background about this, let me know as I have a free report on it that I can send you - no sign up required!!

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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    Any using JS can be blocked. I read (somewhere) there is an ad blocking FF plug-in that blocks adsense ads. It also blocks Google Analytics from what I read. Don't know how accurate that was, but my Google analytics is always 2/3rds of any other monitoring code.

    So I really have no idea as to exact number of visitors, 3 counters give 3 different results. (with Google being the lowest.)
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Buckley
    I install Google Analytics on most of the sites I build and manage primarily so that I can have a quick look at them all from one "dashboard".

    That being said, I'm well aware of the limitations and inaccuracies og GA so when I want to drill down into traffic stats for a particular site, I use AWSTATS.
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  • Profile picture of the author chaos69
    Originally Posted by crimsonbook View Post

    Which of the 2 is more accurate in your opinion? I find that Webalizer shows a considerably higher number of visits compared to Awstats. Thoughts?
    It depends on your definition of 'accurate'.

    Webalizer doesn't [1] differentiate between 'human' visitors and bots. Awstats does, or at least, tries too.

    There was a section in the awstats that showed the bot traffic somewhere too, so the total of the both should be comparable. Some prefer awstats for this reason, although others dont due to the resources it uses to process
    log files.....

    So - both are accurate. webalizer is corerctly reporting the number of visits, it is merely including any visit to your website.

    Google Analytics on the other hand, will probably give you another figure altogether.....

    [1] This certainly used to be the case when i did support, which was a couple of years back now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cyrus
      I am using http://www.modlogan.org/, its similar to webalizer.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    AWSTATS is tied into your servers actual log files and as such will be 100% accurate. Webalizer I feel is very limited when it comes to tracking. AWSTATS gives you all the stats you need and you do not need any third party stats.

    Keep in mind unless you have a stats program installed on your server, using those third party stats system such as google, it could be costing your visitors because many times they keep the site from loading in a responsive manner and many visitors may not wait around...

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    • Profile picture of the author chaos69
      Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

      AWSTATS is tied into your servers actual log files and as such will be 100% accurate.
      James
      As does webalizer...... which, therefore, is also 100% accurate
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by chaos69 View Post

        As does webalizer...... which, therefore, is also 100% accurate
        You are correct but it lacks a great deal of information....


        @ Mike Shain - Yeah that is what my point is with google, I never use such tools from google because frankly you have only but a few seconds to get your visitors attention (targeted or not) and I do not want any distractions.

        If I see that loading in the browser and it takes more than a few seconds then I close the window and move on. I am sure many others do the same..

        James
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        • Profile picture of the author crimsonbook
          Awesome! Thanks for the feedback guys
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Shain
      Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

      AWSTATS is tied into your servers actual log files and as such will be 100% accurate. Webalizer I feel is very limited when it comes to tracking. AWSTATS gives you all the stats you need and you do not need any third party stats.

      Keep in mind unless you have a stats program installed on your server, using those third party stats system such as google, it could be costing your visitors because many times they keep the site from loading in a responsive manner and many visitors may not wait around...

      James
      That is my thoughts exatcly. I have always Awstats and feel its the best program for me. I have never been a real fan of Google Analytics and most of the time when I visit a site the site takes awhile to load and when you look at the status bar it shows Loading Google Analytics or something to that effect.

      Bottom line is to use what works for you and provides the necessary bells and whistles.
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  • Profile picture of the author bbrock32
    Another vote for awstats
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  • Profile picture of the author George Langer
    As written above both tools use different ways of measuring and so does Google Analytics.
    I did the same thing (mistake in fact) when I started online - trying to solve the problem of "exact" numbers but after a while I found out that the exact numbers are not important at all!

    What matters is looking at TRENDS and this is of crucial importance. When analysing your website's statistics you should focus on things like comparing effectiveness of different traffic sources, behaviour of visitors, bounce rate,... in the longer term.

    Best regards.
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  • Profile picture of the author Velant
    I use GA, Awstats and Munin. Don't have experience with webalizer. Awstats is great, but GA for me is more transparent and easy to use. However, I suspect that if you use GA Google may spy on you and this might affect you and your sites on the same account in various ways. Although it's only a speculation, opportunity is there, so I am a bit wary about installing GA on the most valuable sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author thecableguy
      Yeah another one for Awstats.

      But you have to scroll to the bottom of the page to see the actual searches. The numbers at the top reflects the bots and image file downloads. Try one of those directory submitters and watch your "hit" counter go crazy, but scroll to the bottom and view the search phrases and you'll see very different numbers in the amount of searches.
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  • Profile picture of the author enterforum
    i didn't try any one of them..

    but i can suggest you that there are lots of analytic tool

    google analytic
    piwik
    getclicky

    i use getclicky and google analytic.

    getclicky provides you real time traffic analytic..
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  • Profile picture of the author enterforum
    i didn't try any one of them..

    but i can suggest you that there are lots of analytic tool

    google analytic
    piwik
    getclicky

    i use getclicky and google analytic.

    getclicky provides you real time traffic analytic..
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  • Profile picture of the author nasuryono
    I used to use Google Analytics but now switching over to GetClicky.

    I do this since I feel Google is spying on my site using their Analytics tool (which is free btw and they have the rights to do it).
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  • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
    I always check AW stats. I like it because it doesn't slow down my site as Google Analytics does. I also find the numbers more accurate than Google Analytics

    However Google analytics is good for finding out what people are searching for to find your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author tjaysen70
    Well i see this thread was started 4 years ago, but yeah analytics is easier to understand and is from google and they can tell you just about anything you want to know. Webalizer is good if that's all you have to go by, but still very cumbersome.
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  • Profile picture of the author BuyExpiredDomains
    Neither. Google Analytic's is what you should be using.
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by BuyExpiredDomains View Post

      Neither. Google Analytic's is what you should be using.
      Yes Its a bit hard to set up for the non technical person, but I agree, this one is what you need. Its tracking is awesome.
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      • Profile picture of the author Fredbou
        Originally Posted by celente View Post

        Yes Its a bit hard to set up for the non technical person, but I agree, this one is what you need. Its tracking is awesome.
        I'll set it up for anyone for a tiny fee!
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  • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
    GA or site stats from jetpack
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  • Profile picture of the author tasmedia
    Another vote for Google analytics.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgiaB
    Awstats is more accurate, but I advise you to go for Google Analytics.
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  • Profile picture of the author carlamae
    To be honest, I like to use the Jetpack plugin for wordpress. I just use the free version, but it gives you sooo much information and you don't have to login to a bunch of different places everyday.
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    • Profile picture of the author Fredbou
      Neither Webalizer or Awstats are accurate unless you are prepared to go through and analyze and delete all the bots and rubbish that continually bombard websites.

      Google Analytics may look lean, but it's accurate and it the only stats that are accepted by Flippa.com buyers and other astute site purchasers.

      If I want to BS someone I will quote either Webalizer or Awstats.

      One of my site AwStats

      Yesterday's traffic 378 Visits Traffic this month 13682 Visits Traffic last month 38112 Visits

      Would you be happy if I quoted AwStats? AwStats includes spammers, robots, all number of mongrel visits/hits.

      Same site:

      Google Analytics this month:

      388


      Unique Visitors
      309
      Last month: 1,435

      If I want to sell you this site I will quote AwStats. Please buy me, look at all the hits!

      If I am being honest I will quote Google Analytics.
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      • Profile picture of the author BambiFox
        Originally Posted by Fredbou View Post

        If I want to sell you this site I will quote AwStats. Please buy me, look at all the hits!

        If I am being honest I will quote Google Analytics.
        Fedbou, you rock!

        That was what I found out over 6 months of trying AwStats. I am not fond of Google Analytics for privacy and security issues, but I've found it reliable and use it anyway.

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  • Profile picture of the author Stefan Shields
    Like a lot of people here have already said, would use Google Analytics but it never hurts to explore other things to get a better picture of your traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrgoe
    Google analytics or a professional traffic analyzer..
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  • Profile picture of the author ijohnson
    I have found that Google Analytics renders the most accurate stats.
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    • Profile picture of the author iPowered
      Originally Posted by ijohnson View Post

      I have found that Google Analytics renders the most accurate stats.
      This is a broad statement that may be correct in some ways and incorrect in other ways.

      If you are talking about getting the best idea of how many "real" people are visting your site and how they are interacting with it (i.e., which pages they are visiting, their time per page and per session, their visitation path, etc.), then you are correct that GA probably gives you the most accurate picture of your traffic.

      However, if you are talking about getting an accurate picture of the overall number of visits to your site (including bot visits), then AWStats is more accurate. This is because AWStats pulls its numbers directly off your server, while GA relies on JavaScript and cookies to capture this info. Since a certain number of people disallow JS and/or cookies while browsing, GA will not have any reflection of these visits in its data and thus its numbers are under-reported.

      So which should you use?

      Since both types of numbers are important to most website owners like us, we use both GA and AWStats to track our traffic numbers. We consider the GA stats to be more "qualitative" and they help us track and measure our SEO, Social and marketing efforts, while AWStats are more "quantitative" and they help us measure our bandwidth needs and overall traffic to our sites.

      Best Regards,

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  • Profile picture of the author EasySt
    I'm a big fan of awstats!
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  • Profile picture of the author garyt
    Originally Posted by crimsonbook View Post

    Which of the 2 is more accurate in your opinion? I find that Webalizer shows a considerably higher number of visits compared to Awstats. Thoughts?
    Awstats for me. Can really figure what webalizer shows. But the best is still Google Analytics
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  • Profile picture of the author elijahdean24
    I would use Google analytics
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  • Profile picture of the author zimzalabim
    Awstats all the time every time. Just my personal preference. Find it quick, easy to read, well laid out with the key word search referrals particularly useful. See how people are finding your site(s) and zero in on them. It's included with the cpanel hosting so why not. No need to install anything else.
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  • Profile picture of the author naomimaypierce
    I'd go with google analytics too. their support system is way better
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