I Jokingly Told A Guy I Would Do One Article For Him For 100$ And He Said "That's It"

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I was explaining to a guy at the library what I do to make money. He sees me there everyday and he did not really get the gist of what I do. After he got the idea of what I do for a living he asked me how much would I charge him to write a thousand word article for him about "coffee mugs" that's right coffee mugs.

I did not take him seriously so I thought I would have a little fun and tell him a price I believed no one would pay for one simple article. I told him I would charge one hundred dollars for a thousand word article for his website. I figured I would never see him again and I thought he would think the price outrageous.

He simply looked at me and said "is that it". I kid you not; I was a little scared to go on figuring he would think it was too much. But he told me he was use to paying several hundreds of dollars for content and that my price was bargain basement.

I'm beginning to think that offline holds some good possibilities and I am looking into it. Has anyone else here had stories where they told someone a price offline thinking it was too high, only to find out that they saw your price as being too cheap?

I think sometimes we stay online so much that we think our rates are normal, sometimes we forget there are people who have never heard of elance or the warrior forum. There are people who do not know they can have articles written for a small amount of money. What do you guys think?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Williams
    Wow, that makes me rethink some things. That's $.10 / word... a heck of a lot more than I would be used to working for on the internet. Unfortunately there would probably be more expectations, but still.

    Just another reason that offline marketing is the big thing right now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Williams
      Originally Posted by Marc Rodill View Post

      Lol.

      Offline marketing is a big thing, right now?

      Nah.

      Marketing is a big thing. Period.

      (That is, if you own a business, or whatever.)

      Remember, the internet is just a medium ...and it hasn't been around that long

      Marc
      Of course I mean more recently in internet marketing it seems that offline marketing has been getting more and more popular. Along with WSO's of course.
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  • Profile picture of the author Donald Truehart
    Magazine style writing for specific niches can be very profitable if your position yourself correctly.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Although you kick yourself for not charging more, I think we all want more "is that all?" customers and fewer of the "that much!?!?!?" customers.

      Especially in those cases when "that much!" is actually pretty reasonable, if not downright cheap.
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  • Profile picture of the author ALuth
    I think I need to go talk to people and position myself in the offline world if you can make that kind of money. Damn.
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  • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
    It wasn't magazine style writing, just writing an article for this guys personal blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    A writer I know was told the offline person expected to pay at least 3 times the amount they charged them.

    $100 is what I normally charge for a 1,000 word article, and for web content it would have been $300. My rates are for online and offline. Last week we were paid $3 a word.
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    • Profile picture of the author mello
      Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

      A writer I know was told the offline person expected to pay at least 3 times the amount they charged them.

      $100 is what I normally charge for a 1,000 word article, and for web content it would have been $300. My rates are for online and offline. Last week we were paid $3 a word.
      I was an advertising copywriter in a former life but bizarrely enough written very little since focussing more on internet stuff. Maybe I should get back into it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
    One hundred dollars for a thousand word article? That's cheap...
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    • Profile picture of the author Talinn
      Originally Posted by Joseph Then View Post

      One hundred dollars for a thousand word article? That's cheap...
      Yeah, should be more like one thousand dollars for a hundred word article :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Lou Diamond
    Hello,
    let's talk more about this when you have the money in your hand.
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  • Profile picture of the author freefor15.com
    some people rarely update there websites and are not doing article marketing on a mass scale so they can afford to get really good content. But if they pay $100 for a thousand word article they should really get a good one.

    Every person is different so we all have a different price guage for things. Asking for a higher price is free and it pays off sometimes
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  • Profile picture of the author bryemidas
    I think a lot of people believe article writing is beyond their capabilities... or maybe their just plain lazy... I can sure find better ways to spend $100!
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    • Profile picture of the author Jobe4212
      Originally Posted by bryemidas View Post

      I think a lot of people believe article writing is beyond their capabilities... or maybe their just plain lazy... I can sure find better ways to spend $100!
      To someone making $500,000 year, except for a personal site they're
      passionate about, $100 is nothing if the writer is good.

      Outsourcing means you have better things for your time.
      It occurs at every level.

      Presidents and executives have paid thousands of dollars
      for a single page to read aloud.
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  • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
    Hello,
    let's talk more about this when you have the money in your hand
    Way ahead of you, I wrote that article the same day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    Who is the bigger fool? The one who values an article at $100 or the one who has been spending their time doing the same work for a fraction of what they could have been charging... :p
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  • Profile picture of the author testaccount9998
    In terms of actual journalism its pretty common for writers to get $1.00 a word for big publications, so really its not that uncommon at all.

    Rebtl
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
      I know of a handful of magazines that are willing to pay as much as $2000 for a feature length article with pictures...and $100 for a 300 word article.

      Just because unskilled freelancers drive down the market value in certain marketing circles online, it doesn't mean the entire world out there suddenly wants crappy, worthless, badly written and barely researched 400 word articles with no original thought...

      ...or that they suddenly believe lower cost = better quality.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mukul Verma
    Thats excellent. When I stop dealing in person in my niche and went 100% online, I would still get people asking for in person, so I would say $100 for a $35 online service and people would bite.

    In person takes more of your time, that to me is why say no over doing in person, however most people (this group is the exception) trust it more then online and will pay.

    You will pay or get more offline, but you spend more time on a transaction. Online is on your own time and you reach more clients.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    I can't understand the alarm. I get $150 per article and get
    repeat business. The only hurdle is that I can get more per
    word for a sales letter than an article.

    I would never think of even charging less for an article. But
    then there are articles and there are articles.

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    • Profile picture of the author greenowl123
      I know a guy who regularly charges 200 to 300 bucks per article.

      It all depends on what niche and of course how good of a writer the person is... not everybody can demand that amount of money because the quality is just not there.


      I have seen other writers and even at $3 per article they were getting paid too much.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ross Bowring
        The difference between most well-paid copywriters and most struggling day to day copywriters? And article writers for that matter. One group has the balls to ask for more money, the other doesn't.
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        • Profile picture of the author gravtex
          We as internet marketers tend to get a little locked into the prices of our world. I have a good friend who gets paid $400-$600 for every article she writes (usually 2000-3000 words), but keep in mind the quality expected there is quite a bit higher and requires some actual research.

          Gary
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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
        Originally Posted by greenowl123 View Post

        I know a guy who regularly charges 200 to 300 bucks per article.

        It all depends on what niche and of course how good of a writer the person is... not everybody can demand that amount of money because the quality is just not there.


        I have seen other writers and even at $3 per article they were getting paid too much.
        Yeah, I have met writers who charge a discounted rate of $0.30 per word, that's $120 for a 400 words article.
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  • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
    Yeah, should be more like one thousand dollars for a hundred word article
    The picture you have in your avatar talin is what makes this really funny. I can't stop smiling.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    ...the library aye?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tommy Turner
    Yes, offline you can get away with allot more... However, the local face-to-face factor really plays into it.

    He must have recognized you as an expert since you said you are at the library all the time. You study and research allot.

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  • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
    Yeah sometimes I go there when I need to do research and I get tired of looking on the internet. I also get lonely as heck sometimes here and it feels good to be around people.
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    • Profile picture of the author sligon00
      Originally Posted by pheonix44 View Post

      Yeah sometimes I go there when I need to do research and I get tired of looking on the internet. I also get lonely as heck sometimes here and it feels good to be around people.
      And I thought I was the only one who likes to hang out in the Library,
      Martin Luther King library in San Jose, Calif. to be exact , a lovely
      place indeed.

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  • Profile picture of the author Marcus Paul
    I have found that in order to get good, well-written, well-organized and researched content I find that I need to pay .10 to .15 per word. Anything less and I usually end up with crap that, while readable, is just vanilla and uninformative.

    Ad agencies who need copywriting spend $500 for a 1,000 word piece, and that's because they can't risk getting a piece of garbage.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    The Elances of the world have ruined a lot of the writing gigs out there. But there remains a solid core of buyers who understand the power of well written content. As Ray said earlier, "there are articles and there are articles." Just like in the copywriting world, you can pay for a $100 sales letter and good luck with that, just like you can pay for a $4 article and good luck with that.

    The market will always reward talent that produces results.

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

      The Elances of the world have ruined a lot of the writing gigs out there.
      Actually, they've just made the distinction between those writers with sales skills and those without a little clearer.
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  • Profile picture of the author jbode
    If you can write effective articles then people will be happy to continue paying a high price...

    People are naturally lazy and many don't want to learn new things - take advantage of it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mo Faisal
    thats too much money for a 1000 word article
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by Bruce_Richards View Post

      thats too much money for a 1000 word article
      Well, you won't be hiring me next month. (My rates go up to 10 cents a word on the first.)
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      • Profile picture of the author Jays80
        Everyone may not understand quality of work you bring to table.


        Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

        Well, you won't be hiring me next month. (My rates go up to 10 cents a word on the first.)
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  • Profile picture of the author mattlloyd
    I want to sit in that library and wait for that guy. I won't wait for him to ask me. I'll ask him myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave777
    Some good guidelines and ideas if you're thinking of getting into the higher end Money making writing services business! Canada eh? Just add USD pricing...
    "What should I charge for my work"
    or "How much do I pay a writer?"
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  • Profile picture of the author Platinum Matt
    I once did this years ago... Somebody asked me for a design (I don't design nowadays) and it was a simple 1 page website, I said $1,000 because I didn't want the work.. He said Ok.

    Awesome!
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  • Profile picture of the author Platinum Matt
    Oh and my guess is, that guy will expect a pretty awesome article with some well researched coffee mug stuff in it, not some keyword stuffed SEO article about how great coffee mugs are to drink from
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  • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
    that is usually the difference when people pay more, the time you spend doing more research.
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  • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
    Shucks, the library will be closed for the next four days.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Hancox
    Folks, it's not just the OFFLINE world. Do you think the top content providers online really want crappy, rehashed content on their sites?

    Yes, there IS a market for rehashed $1 articles that send you traffic.

    But there is ALSO a market for darn fine quality content, carefully researched, and given a uniquely original spin.

    The key is HOW you market your service, WHERE and TO WHOM.

    Not every marketer on the Internet is a "bum" marketer
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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      Originally Posted by Paul Hancox View Post

      The key is HOW you market your service, WHERE and TO WHOM.
      Exactly, Paul.

      Some freelancers are in the article writing business. While others are in the business of marketing/selling their writing services. It's the same as any other business. Those who also spend time working ON their business generally have more success than those who ONLY work IN it.

      If you think you can't charge more, you're probably right. If you want to learn how to ask for higher fees and get clients to willingly pay them, get ahold of a copy of Dan Kennedy's Brass Balls presentation. Also, pick up a copy of The E-Myth RevisitedThe E-Myth Revisited .
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  • Profile picture of the author johnhoefer
    $100 is very cheap for a 1,000 word article. One of the best insurance copywriters charges $1.25 per word....yes, per word.

    Magazine article writers charge the same. Don't forget the point of your work product, to make them money. If you write them a great article or ad copy that allows them to sell 1,000 coffee mugs at $15 each, or 1,000 insurance policies at $300 in revenue each for the next several years, your work product is worth much more than you think.
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  • Profile picture of the author anu_smart
    OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    PLEASE GIVE ME AN INRO TO THAT GUY


    I'm an article writer as well, i write original copy-scape passed content on a given niche..Am not gettin such ricchhhhh clients
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    • Profile picture of the author Hesaidblissfully
      Originally Posted by greenleaf200 View Post

      There is a sucker born every minute. It's like with anything else in life, if you have a source that most others don't have. Your pricing is going to be a bargain in there eyes.
      I wouldn't consider him a "sucker". If he can afford it and he's getting his money's worth, then good for him. Sure, he could've gotten the article somewhere for cheaper, but hey we all spend money every day on stuff that's sold at a big margin of profit for the seller.

      Having said that, when you present yourself like a professional, people tend to treat you like one. If the guy sees you as a professional writer who's going to write something top-notch for him, $100 probably does sound like a drop in the bucket. In fact, if you charged less than that, he might begin to doubt how much of an expert you really are.
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  • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
    I guess with this guy its something different.There are different levels of people when it comes to needing articles. If I am doing article marketing I want to see a positive ROI for the money I spend. If I am using the content for other reasons I may want it to read like a mini research paper.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
    This is from the Media, Entertainment and Arts Alliance's (MEAA)website. It's the Australian union for journalists, writers, photographers, actors etc. Some of you may pass out at these rates, so be prepared...

    Page 1
    Information correct as of January 2009.


    Approved minimums for freelance and casual writers, broadcasters,photographers and artists.

    These minimums are exclusive of GST.

    Freelance Daily Rate

    Per day $846.00
    Per half day (2/3 day rate) $564.00
    Per hour $211.00
    1000 words or less $860.00
    then 86c per word

    Book Editors & Proofreaders

    Per day $846.00
    Per half day (2/3 day rate) $564.00
    Per hour $211


    Yes, this is real.
    I've worked for publishing companies who paid MUCH more than this.
    Don't sell yourself short, there's a LOT more money to be made than one cent per word.

    Sissy
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Fullman
    Originally Posted by ishansoni View Post

    Maybe - It also has to do with the mentality of offline people. They think articles are always supposed to be super professional, while we as online marketers pick unheard niches and write articles about them after getting an idea of what the niche is about...

    - Ishan
    Hi, Ishan

    I think it has less to do with mentality, and more to do with positioning

    As we've seen, it's just as easy to sell articles at $3 per word as it is at $0.03

    The difference is: the first one sells their expert service, the second just sells their service...

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    • Profile picture of the author pink sapphire
      I used to work full-time as a professional content writer, and did most of my work for a company that commissioned content on behalf of various brand name sites. I was paid a minimum of £40 for a 400-500 word article - and usually more. In the case of the work where I made £40/500 words, they were actually apologetic about the 'low' rate, but couldn't pay more because that particular project had a very tight budget.

      Needless to say, when I discovered that in the IM world it's normal to pay about $5 or less for a 500 word article, I was like I realise that could be a good income for someone living in a country where dollars are worth a lot more than their local currency, but for those of us in the west it seems absurdly low. I wouldn't dream of working for so little, and it's a shame if good writers accept these rates and value their time and skills so poorly.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    [sarcasm]You mean there's actual life besides the Warrior Forum?[/sarcasm]
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  • Profile picture of the author stefanjames
    Offline Marketing is EXPLOSIVE. I've spent my 3 years online that I completely neglect the offline world. I'm currently transitioning 90% of my marketing to offline because there is absolutely NO COMPETITION.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    I've been saying this here for years!!!!!

    People DRASTICALLY underestimate how much value real businesses put on creating promotional material - including articles.

    I've been paid as much as $3000 for ONE article.

    People here seem to really operate at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to valuing their time and expertise - many businesses wouldn't expect you to charge less than a few hundred dollars for some writing services - but because there are a lot of struggling people offering things (and wanting things) for practically nothing, they seem to think that the rest of the world is like this.

    If you do nothing else in 2010 - start charging what your time is worth if you use it on work for other people.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    And the number of people who have been charging low prices, and don't know how to get more money for their work is incredible. I get a lot of people who did the basic format given, sell cheap and now can't get out of the cycle.

    It's easy to sell articles for less then $10 here on the forum, just do a simple article and make the points as a list.

    You don't even need to go offline to find people want/need good quality writing.

    But, they don't want articles which are just simple list type articles. They want articles which have been well researched. They want articles which inform their readers.

    Even if you never go offline, you will find people who are desperate for high quality work. There are at least 2,000 companies who advertise and pay high rates, but you can guarantee they won't pay for cheap, unreadable articles. Those are not companies who are offline, but online.

    In all my years as a writer, I've only had 1 person who asked me to write any articles in a list format.

    What IMers think are quality articles are not seen as quality articles by people who are prepared to pay higher prices.
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  • Profile picture of the author michellegreen
    I'm regularly competing against writers who are charging between 1 and 2c per word and when I started out I really didn't think I'd ever make it as a freelance writer.

    But I was wrong. There are people out there who are more than prepared to pay a lot more than this and I've made up to $200 for one article.

    I hire outsourcers myself on occasion and I am yet to offer work to the lowest bidder - I'm after quality, and if I don't think the lowest bidder can offer me what I want, then I'm more than happy to pay more to somebody who can.

    Remember too, that people in the offline world aren't exposed to those to can offer much lower prices online - nor do they know where to find them. Usually it's the convenience of having you there and ready to go that makes you worth their money.
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