Is this worth pursuing any further?

Devon Brown

14 years ago

I think that's a great idea and you should keep going. You've gone this far..what's a little further?

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Peeps66 14 years ago

Thanks Devon

I must say that was a lightening quick reply!

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- PromoTom 14 years ago
  
  I think there are a lot of ways to expand the pdf viewing experience and make it more enjoyable or easier.
  
  Id keep going
  
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  Peeps66 14 years ago
  
  Cheers PromoTom
  
  I think my biggest obstacle is believing in my self and selling myself
  
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  cdhartpence 14 years ago
  
  Sounds like you need to take a bit of the advice you offered in your e-book.
  
  Seriously, I like what you've done with it, and was surprised by your confession at the end.
  
  Good work! Now, start believing in you!
  
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  Peeps66 14 years ago
  
  Thanks for your support Vel,
  
  Believing in yourself is far easier said than done though!
  
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  cdhartpence 14 years ago
  
  Alas, truer words have seldom been spoken. And you're welcome.
  
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  Dan C. Rinnert 14 years ago
  
  Some of your navigation features don't work if Javascript is turned off (which I leave off in Acrobat for better security).
  
  Good idea overall though.
  
  I do my eBooks with a complete navigation system. Not page by page as you've done, though. But, aren't some of your navigation features already built-in to Acrobat? By that, I mean I can go from page to page and jump to different pages just with the toolbar Acrobat has.
  
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  Peeps66 14 years ago
  
  Hi Dan
  
  Yes some of them are. The idea behind it all was just to make using PDFs alot easier and intuitive to use. People may or may not find them useful, but they are there to use if they want to and can. They don't really distract the user if they don't want to use them. In full screen mode your navigation options tend to be very limited.
  
  I take your point about Javascript though.
  
  P.S. for people who prefer to print out the ebooks, the navigation bits don't print
  
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DogScout

14 years ago

There is a new thing in corporate e-books, like Betty Crocker recipes, for example. They are done in exe format and they are laid out like a real book, side to side and you can flip the page with your mouse.

I know a lot of people are wary of exe files, less when Betty Crocker is offering it, but is that a way e-books might be headed?

Mark

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Peeps66 14 years ago

Hi Mark

You could be right!

I do think people are used to using pdfs for reports etc. PDFs are sent via email and can be used on many platforms. I would say that epub files are probably the way to go for the likes of novels (something else I've been looking into)

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Profit-smart

14 years ago

Originally Posted by DogScout

There is a new thing in corporate e-books, like Betty Crocker recipes, for example. They are done in exe format and they are laid out like a real book, side to side and you can flip the page with your mouse.

I know a lot of people are wary of exe files, less when Betty Crocker is offering it, but is that a way e-books might be headed?

Mark

This is actually an *old* thing. Circa late '90s.

Ebooks morphed FROM exes to pdfs, I doubt their going back the other way.

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brchap

14 years ago

I can understand your hesitation in proceeding further.

It's called Fear of Failure, and I also suffer from it on a regular basis.

The logic is simple: if you never finish a project, then it never has a chance to fail. So, by default, you never run the risk of disappointment, since the project never fails.

Getting over it is easier said than done.

I still have a hard time with it on occasion, but I'm A LOT better than I used to be. Just keep it in your mind that failing is good thing. It goes against almost EVERYTHING we were taught in school (and sometimes at home, too).

Do some research on the philosophy of failure until you are very confident that failure is necessary for success, and the road to success is PAVED with one failure after the next. Any truly successful person can tell you that. Know that every failure gets you one step closer to success.

Best of luck.

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Peeps66 14 years ago

Hi Bradley,

You've hit the nail on the head. And it is difficult to work through. I've read several books which seem to give a boost, but it can be hard to keep it going

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Kevin Koop

14 years ago

Overall, I think what you've done is great and hope you'll see it through to the end!

The only feature that wasn't totally intuitive to me was your "View" feature. When I clicked it, it jumped between page 5 and page 53 so I am guessing you have coded it to go to the TOC (it goes to the last page of the TOC) and to the end of the ebook but the word "View" really doesn't clearly convey what is supposed to happen.

At least, that's my take.

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Peeps66 14 years ago

Hi Kevin

The view option is set to go back to the last page you viewed. It is one of those options that can be accessed through the toolbar and which Adobe refers to as view. I have tried to think of something else but haven't come up with anything. Referring to something like back & forward could refer to previous and next page.

I would very much welcome any ideas

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Kevin Koop

14 years ago

Aha, I get it...

Maybe "View Last Page" or "View Last" or ???

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Peeps66 14 years ago

Trying to get something concise is tricky isn't it?
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Peeps66 14 years ago

Cheers Kevin

To be honest, I'm not really sure where to go with it. I believe it could be a good service, but who would pay for it? I originally started the process for work (usability & accessibility field) but they didn't seem to go for it in a big way

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Kevin Regier

14 years ago

I have not even looked at the PDF yet but you must have faith in yourself and trust your own work otherwise your customers will be able to tell. It sounds like you have a great product so go all the way. It is really the only way to see if you have what it takes.

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Anthony Tilley

14 years ago

Have faith in yourself. This is a cool product.
If you don't give it a go you'll always be left wondering, what if?
If it doesn't work so what??!! But it will work.

You could offer this as a service but I think you might do better to (if possible) sell it in a WSO as a download.
There are plenty of people here who use PLR that would want to make their products look better.
If you write a sales letter and want someone to look over it I will be happy to help.
I have a couple of tips that might help.

Regards

Anthony

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Peeps66

14 years ago

Thanks Anthony

I'll PM you since this thread is getting rather old

Peeps

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Peeps66

14 years ago

Hi Anthony

Can't seem to PM yet. Not enough messages sent or something. I'll PM you when I can

Peeps

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Anthony Tilley

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Peeps66

Hi Anthony

Can't seem to PM yet. Not enough messages sent or something. I'll PM you when I can

Peeps

Got your message and have replied. We can do something good with this for you.

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Peeps66

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Anthony Tilley

Got your message and have replied. We can do something good with this for you.

Hi Anthony

I didn't get your message. Don't know if there's something up with their server or something. Could you send it to a temporary email address I've set up.

peter@DynamicEbooks.com

Cheers

Peter

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Anthony Tilley

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Peeps66

Hi Anthony

I didn't get your message. Don't know if there's something up with their server or something. Could you send it to a temporary email address I've set up.

peter@DynamicEbooks.com

Cheers

Peter

Hi Peter

Sorry only just saw this. have just mailed you.

Anthony

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edhan

14 years ago

I strongly believe that you are going the right direction. Do not just stop there but instead go and complete it. Between success and failure depend on you.

Just go ahead and complete what you have started as the pot of gold is at the end of the rainbow.

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mgkimsal

14 years ago

I'm using "preview" on a Mac, and it just didn't work for me. The previous/next buttons worked, but clicking on the other things didn't do anything useful for me. It was not intuitive as to what I was supposed to be doing/seeing/experiencing.

I see you're trying something new/different, and that's good, but you may need to do some more testing across platforms. PDF as a basic format has a reputation as being very cross-platform and "just working". Introducing extra widgets that cause confusion and clutter may be problematic.

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Liane Fitzpatrick 14 years ago

Yes it is! But I knew that before I looked at it! My guess is that you struggle with this concept, now is the time to keep going despite fear! Run don't walk! Good luck, you WILL prevail!
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Peeps66

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mgkimsal

I'm using "preview" on a Mac, and it just didn't work for me. The previous/next buttons worked, but clicking on the other things didn't do anything useful for me. It was not intuitive as to what I was supposed to be doing/seeing/experiencing.

I see you're trying something new/different, and that's good, but you may need to do some more testing across platforms. PDF as a basic format has a reputation as being very cross-platform and "just working". Introducing extra widgets that cause confusion and clutter may be problematic.

Cheers, I'll look into this. I knew some older readers didn't have the capability to use all the buttons but I didn't realise that it didn't work on a MAC. Do you have javascript enabled?

Peeps

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mgkimsal

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Peeps66

Cheers, I'll look into this. I knew some older readers didn't have the capability to use all the buttons but I didn't realise that it didn't work on a MAC. Do you have javascript enabled?

Peeps

As far as I can tell, javascript is not an option in Preview.app.

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grandstar

14 years ago

This is super cool. Don't let anyone stop you.

How much will it cost to use your service to turn a pdf into your format?

You're on to something. I am saving this thread.

You are like Apple Computers. You made the interface easy to you. Its iconic!

Keep it up!

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Peeps66

14 years ago

Originally Posted by grandstar

This is super cool. Don't let anyone stop you.

How much will it cost to use your service to turn a pdf into your format?

You're on to something. I am saving this thread.

You are like Apple Computers. You made the interface easy to you. Its iconic!

Keep it up!

Thanks Grandstar, quite an accolade!

As to your question about cost. I haven't really put too much thought into this yet. Obviously it will depend on the time taken. The majority of time is taken up creating bookmarks. Once the bookmarks are created and any adjustments are made to the button graphics at the bottom, it doesn't take long to complete the process.

Did you have anything in mind?

Peeps

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Steve Powers

14 years ago

Well,that's really a good idea.Hope you can make it soon.I have been reading an ebook written with PDF.Although it has directory and sub-directory,I found it's really hard to find the wanted page I plan to go over after closing it.So I think it's worthy to try.Maybe you'll help thousands of people solving this problem.

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paulie888

14 years ago

Just took a look at it, I love the concept. This would be particularly helpful with a bigger PDF document, I tend to get "lost" in them scrolling around here and there, and those helpful navigation icons/widgets at the bottom of each page would really help.

You really need to proceed with this! I'm fairly convinced that there are many people out there who would love to have this incorporated in their ebooks. Since you say you've already put many hours of effort into this, don't you dare abandon it now!

Paul