Graphics sold on the WF (with PLR): STOLEN from GraphicRiver.net -- DON'T BUY/RESELL

by Didier Faucher

Posted: 15 years ago 34 replies

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Hello Warriors,

A friend of mine has just informed me that a pack of graphics named
"1009 MiniSite Graphics Package",
"1009 Webpage Graphics"
or something similar is sold with transferable PLR, PLR, or MRR by several
IMers since few days.

These graphics were stolen from GraphicRiver.net, a very popular
marketplace in the graphics community.

If you have a copy of this pack, you are not allowed to use them
nor resell them.

Because of the PLR, they start to spread fast from a reseller to another.
They are even for sale on the french-speaking market...

This pack was on sale on the WF Classified Ads forum until today.
The ad has been reported and deleted.

Here's a sample of the graphics included in this pack (taken from
GraphicRiver.net) + the URL to the sales page on GraphicRiver.net
below each image.

=> Badges and Sale Tags for Online Shop - Graphics - GraphicRiver

=> 28 Download Buttons - Graphics - GraphicRiver

=> Clean Web Banners - Graphics - GraphicRiver

Thanks for reading.

Didier

#1009 #buy or resell #graphicrivernet #graphics #plr #stolen #webpage

mrmatiesto 15 years ago

I will pull these from my site right now and spread the word to my members thank you for letting us know.

Jim
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Andy Hart 15 years ago

Maybe off topic but they are some pretty slick graphics.

Andy

ps - checking out graphicriver now, lol
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- hotwebwords 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Andy Hart
  
  Maybe off topic but they are some pretty slick graphics.
  
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  ps - checking out graphicriver now, lol
  
  Haha, me too. Those are fab.
  
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Tracy Yates 15 years ago

Glad I didn't do anything with the graphics. Thanks for letting us know Didier, very much appreciated. Really sorry this happened to you. I know that must be frustrating.

Just by looking at the graphics in the package I can tell you spent lots of hard work on them. It's a shame what some will do. Not only do you as the creator lose out, but everyone else that paid.

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- Steven Wagenheim 15 years ago
  
  Sadly, this is why I never buy PLR material because you just don't know if
  it's legit or not.
  
  Sorry to hear yet another one of these horror stories.
  
  But they no longer surprise me.
  
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Andyhenry

15 years ago

It's against WSO terms of service to sell PLR stuff as your own - I hope no-one has been doing it.

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Frank Bruno

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

It's against WSO terms of service to sell PLR stuff as your own - I hope no-one has been doing it.

Andy From what I'm interpreting here it was posted in the WF classifieds instead of the WSO area. (Either way its still a non,no ..)

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Didier Faucher

15 years ago

Originally Posted by mrmatiesto

I will pull these from my site right now and spread the word to my members thank you for letting us know.

Jim

Thanks Jim.

Originally Posted by Andy Hart

Maybe off topic but they are some pretty slick graphics.

Andy

ps - checking out graphicriver now, lol

Envato.com also run other wonderful marketplace sites that may interest you, and other Warriors too:
http://themeforest.net/
http://activeden.net/
http://videohive.net/
http://audiojungle.net/

All these graphics are for personal use only - ok? :p

To see other Envato websites, check out their main site:
Envato

Originally Posted by Tracy Yates

Glad I didn't do anything with the graphics. Thanks for letting us know Didier, very much appreciated. Really sorry this happened to you. I know that must be frustrating.

Just by looking at the graphics in the package I can tell you spent lots of hard work on them. It's a shame what some will do. Not only do you as the creator lose out, but everyone else that paid.

Tracy

These are not mine.

Mine

- Marketing Graphics Pro Volume 2 will come "soon" (or a bit later

).
I promised it since a long time, but I was ill the past months (years, in fact...). I really feel better now, so it will be available December or January.

A friend of mine is among the graphic designers whose work was stolen (only a couple of graphics belong to him).

With another friend, we spent 3 whole days, 20 hours per day, to try to stop each and every reseller that we found. Some were pretty hard to convince.

We have sent hundreds of emails. Our English being not good (take us a lot of time to write in this language), it was really time-consuming and exhausting.

We did this to protect the intellectual property of our felow designers. No other reason. And we did it 100% free.

As a side note, on my side, I always chase people who sell illegally my RR products, to protect the legitimate resellers (my customers). But frankly, it starts to be a bit too much for me...

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Sadly, this is why I never buy PLR material because you just don't know if
it's legit or not.

Sorry to hear yet another one of these horror stories.

But they no longer surprise me.

You're right Steven. One should take great care when buying RR/PLR stuff.

To be sure a certain product is original is not easy at all...

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

It's against WSO terms of service to sell PLR stuff as your own - I hope no-one has been doing it.

It was posted in the Classified Ads Forums, as Frank said above.

Many people post PLR stuff in the WSO forum...

Also, many Warriors, well-known and respected IMers included, post offers that are against the rules.

The WSO is now such a "strange place"...

Originally Posted by Akky

Hi,

Thanks for the heads up. But the member of this forum who is selling it might be the original creator? Just a thought..

G'day,
Akky

The Warrior who sold them here is NOT the original creator.

We found her, and she said that she hired someone to make them for her, and that she thought they were original...

Originally Posted by Christian Sawyer

Does anyone have a link to this package on GraphicsRiver?

I think they are great and would love to purchase!

-Christian

- It's not a single pack, but multiple packs.

- See Amy's post, quoted below.

Originally Posted by AmyBrown

The links to each of the packages is in between the screenshots in the original post above.

Originally Posted by RobinSkeen

I have pulled these from my site. Fortunately, I had just added them so there were no sales as of yet. Thank you!

Thanks!

Originally Posted by bobsstuff

This happened a while back with a graphics package and that time the owner of the graphics went after anyone using their graphics who did not purchase them. They were billing the people large amounts.

As I recall that time it was a package of 16,000 graphics -- 1,600 doesn't sound right the then I have CRS (cant' remember stuff).

It was a pack of 1,600 graphics. The element that caused problem was a Corbis stock image. Yes, some people had huge fines to pay. They weren't even aware that this image was not for reselling...

Thank you everyone for reading and for your post - and help!

Didier

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Michael Taylor 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Didier Faucher

Envato.com also run other wonderful marketplace sites that may interest you...

Envato is the bee's knees! I love that site! The audio site is excellent...
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Jesus Perez

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Didier Faucher

The element that caused problem was a Corbis stock image. Yes, some people had huge fines to pay. They weren't even aware that this image was not for reselling...

I believe it. Corbis does NOT play around. Neither does iStockPhoto. Both companies use a 3rd party service to identify licensed images and file legal claims.

I pay for each and every image I use. And when I need to reuse them, I pay again. I never buy PLR or MRR images for this specific reason. Spending $17 on PLR/MRR images could result in 5 digit lawsuits.

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Jobe4212 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

It's against WSO terms of service to sell PLR stuff as your own - I hope no-one has been doing it.

I hope everyone read that ↑

And thanks Didier, for posting this.
This type of action maintains integrity in the community.

Everyone should participate in quality control efforts within the
IM community. There has been a great increase in the number
of questionable characters of late, and it is only right
to create a culture you'd want for yourself.
(and the ass you save, will be your own someday)

#GoldenRule
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Akky 15 years ago

Hi,

Thanks for the heads up. But the member of this forum who is selling it might be the original creator? Just a thought..

G'day,
Akky
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- Christian Sawyer 15 years ago
  
  Does anyone have a link to this package on GraphicsRiver?
  
  I think they are great and would love to purchase!
  
  -Christian
  
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  AmyBrown 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Christian Sawyer
  
  Does anyone have a link to this package on GraphicsRiver?
  
  I think they are great and would love to purchase!
  
  -Christian
  
  The links to each of the packages is in between the screenshots in the original post above.
  
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- crecemedia 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Akky
  
  Hi,
  
  Thanks for the heads up. But the member of this forum who is selling it might be the original creator? Just a thought..
  
  G'day,
  Akky
  
  Once the designer/creator uploads the files to GraphicRiver.net, he is not allowed to sell the files outside.(terms of use)
  
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MichaelHiles 15 years ago

Yet another WSO filled with pure crap rears its ugly head.
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RobinSkeen 15 years ago

I have pulled these from my site. Fortunately, I had just added them so there were no sales as of yet. Thank you!
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bobsstuff 15 years ago

This happened a while back with a graphics package and that time the owner of the graphics went after anyone using their graphics who did not purchase them. They were billing the people large amounts.

As I recall that time it was a package of 16,000 graphics -- 1,600 doesn't sound right the then I have CRS (cant' remember stuff).

I worry about any graphics supplied to me by a third party who is not obviously the owner of the material
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Joel Gray 15 years ago

Sometimes you just gotta wonder if they still have the crack pipe in their hands as they are typing in the information for the "SCAM" WSO or what. You would think that before they would do something of this nature that they would realize that this is a forum where for the most part the IQ is a little higher than most places and they would not be in position to continue to make money at the Warrior Forum.

There is a jackass just about everywhere you go!

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Randy Smith 15 years ago

I had these in my bonus download area for my MoreMonthly.com members - Naturally now that I know they were stolen thanks to a member highlighting this post - They have been Removed!

The license text file included with the product stated:
"You have complete PLR Rights to this package, but you can not give them away for free!"

Darn shame that people would stoop to these levels when it's so easy to grab genuine offers to sell on!

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J Bold 15 years ago

Guess that really sucks for those that bought them. Hope they didn't cost too much.
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Akky 15 years ago

If anyone has got time,

Contact the seller in GraphicRiver. Then, tell them about the situation. I think they'll take care of it. Also, people who bought it from her, file a claim/dispute. I hope you guys get your money back asap.

Best Wishes,
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Tim_Carter 15 years ago

I think people that do this kind of crap should be rounded up and (insert thought here as the language I would use is inappropriate on this forum).

I spend far too much of my time chasing down deadbeat scum.
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Josh Anderson 15 years ago

If any warrior EVER buys plr or resale rights of any kind and does not verify the source and original licenses from the copyright holders of all the content they are sold...

They should NEVER EVER EVER EVER assume that they have the legal right to sell them.

Do your due dilligence.

This is not a new problem... for years even some of the biggest names in IM have illegally sold improperly licensed or even swiped unlicensed items with resale and even master resale rights.

Trust no one.

Verify everyone.

Don't stop until you find the original source and get a license or explicit permission in hand from the actual copyright holder.

Caveat emptor!
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- Chris Jenkins 15 years ago
  
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Dennis Gaskill 15 years ago

If you bought these using Paypal, please report the seller to Paypal so they will cancel their account.
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- fastflyer 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill
  
  If you bought these using Paypal, please report the seller to Paypal so they will cancel their account.
  
  Exactly... BUT Cancel who's account?
  
  Them who have the PDF license where it says they have rights to sell the pack. We all know that licenses can be faked.
  
  I just called my solicitor and he asked me couple of questions.
  
  >> Are you sure that Graphicsriver never sold PLR even for once (Like limited edition or whatever)?
  >> Are you sure that the employee who created the graphics for them never had the rights to sell it as his own? ( He could have been laid off and not under any contract (if at all there was any)
  
  my advisor says there are so many possibilities and unless the actual creator and files a dispute sort of thing against the one who started this chain there's nothing much we can do legally.
  
  Of course, ethically we can do a lot of things like stopping to sell the packs and/or buying it ever again before getting in touch with graphics River.
  
  Well, I am NOT advocating the actual thief, but all I am saying is that going after everybody who is selling it or using it in any way that's illegal will not be a fair idea.
  
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  fluffythewondercat 13 years ago
  
  This WSO, which includes "1009 MiniSite Graphics Package", is still active and made a sale as recently as January 19:
  
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  Paul Myers 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat
  
  This WSO, which includes "1009 MiniSite Graphics Package", is still active
  
  Not any more.
  
  Thanks for the pointer.
  
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fastflyer 13 years ago

Hey there!

WOW... I just replied Didier's PM just now .. didn't know there's a solid discussion going on here, or else would have chimed in here earlier.

Like redislander and myself MANY guys are selling or have it in their membership sites. Thanks for whoever published it on WF (classified ads ) and Didier for bringing this to our notice.

Seriously the guy/gal who was selling it on WF as classified ad is NOT the real thief because this pack is NOT a new one . This is at least 24 months old ( or more)

I got these about 2 years ago from SDT Advertising ( I was not even a warrior back then as I joined the forum on feb 2011) and sold not only personal rights but resell rights too.

Please understand this !

I know you guys are fuming at the original thief and not US warriors who just are victims of this scam , but still I want to let you all know about how it happened ( at least with me)

- I signup for a membership site that offers me 100% to promote their product and direct download links of them.

- I download them to find that I got MRR for an awesome graphics pack.

- I get thrilled and I set it up on my site and sell the crap out of it with full confidence.

Then suddenly after 14 months or so I get to know that it was stolen :O

To make it worse, innocent marketers like me have added this pack to their membership Sites where they allow affiliates to promote this pack to their subscribers for commission.

OMG... how on earth cud anyone track where the graphics are flying atm?

Anyways, its never too late and I understand it's illegal so I am going to get in touch with graphicsriver.com or whatever the site is and pull off the pack from my site (DONE).

A Very quick Google search will show you that it's being sold by hundreds ( if not thousands) marketers out there who are also under the impression that they got "RIGHTS" to do what they are doing ( that's selling and making money from a hot graphics pack)

As Didier mentioned, it indeed is spreading like wild fire out there because of the resale rights... wow.. crazy ..isn't it ?
Thank God for Didier who let me know about this ( and Bill Ortell from RaPBank) who let me know about it too so that at least I know it's stolen and i am removing it from my site.

Any suggestions as to how we can TRACK BACK the actual thief ?

God Bless
Anwesh Rath

PS: Please understand that I am NOT blaming it on SDTAdvertising because they were awesome and I am sure even they got the wrong license. But in case we all really want to track the roots of this scam we will have to try to find the source (which IMHO is very difficult ). :confused:
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- Black Hat Cat Banned 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by fastflyer
  
  Hey there!
  
  WOW... I just replied Didier's PM just now .. didn't know there's a solid discussion going on here, or else would have chimed in here earlier.
  
  There's not a solid discussion going on here. This thread(and your pm apparently) is over 2 years old, lol.
  
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Ken Strong 13 years ago

I'm not quite clear on why this 2+ year old thread was bumped, but the WSO linked to above is NOT active at the moment, the thread is locked right now. EDIT: Looks like Paul just locked it, from his post above.

The way to deal with these types of things is to use the "Report Post" button to alert the mods to the problem, and let them sort it out. You can also post in the WSO thread itself to ask questions if you're concerned about the product's legality. However, it's against forum rules to start threads in other areas making accusations against other members.
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RichardDean 13 years ago

As a Graphics Guy:
These graphics have been floating around for a long time. Nothing new.

Anyone that has been doing graphics for any time can reproduce these very easy they are simple in design. Nothing too hard at all for a novice designer.

I still don't know why people make the same image into 10 images or more by just changing the color...

They say 1009 images or what ever the number but if you look at the images there really might be 50 just made all kinds of colors to make up 1009.

Just make one image and tech them how to change the color. It makes the download smaller, and is so simple to change the color no need for Photo Shop either.

I was told by a lawyer that if a image (example) say a Guarantee badge is found all over the internet (I forgot if there was a number or not it has been a while) many websites and you can see that in Google image the same image over and over out of control it becomes public and if you got sued in court the lawyer would use the Google search and show the judge or jury that the image is all over the Internet and 99% of the time it would not even go to court in the first place.

This was years ago when I created eCover actions and was trying to get a patent for the eCover actions back in 2000.

I'm not a lawyer I just hired one for my graphics designs.
Note: Don't take this as advice.

Richard Dean

Edit: ya it is 2 years (post) old but I just did a search for any post and did see the package still in some packages.

Ken it shows that people do look at old post LOL
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