Tip Of The Day: Get A PO Box... (Here's Why)

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Folks,

If you run subscriber lists online, CANSPAM requires your contact details.

I've had my Student House address listed (since I was a Uni student living w/ roommates).

Anyway...

Today I got an email from a dude who actually drove 2 hours to my old Student house, and was looking for me for marketing help - my roommates were totally sketched out.

(If you're the dude who emailed me today, sorry bud. Just a 'lil awkward for me too.)

This is the 2nd time this has happened. Once in a completely different market.

Do yourself a favor and get a PO Box if you value your privacy.

Stupid me.

- Steve

PS. The email - censored out:

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  • Profile picture of the author LB
    People showing up at a private residence uninvited is stalker freaky IMO.

    It's happened to me before too. People also send me resumes and stuff asking if I'll hire them....very strange.
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    • Profile picture of the author djrico01
      very strange indeed
      but it does indicate youre succesfull imo
      Originally Posted by LB View Post

      People showing up at a private residence uninvited is stalker freaky IMO.

      It's happened to me before too. People also send me resumes and stuff asking if I'll hire them....very strange.
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by Steve Iser View Post

    Today I got an email from a dude who actually drove 2 hours to my old Student house, and was looking for me for marketing help
    Sounds like taking the initiative to me!

    Look, we tell people to "take action" all the time. And in the brick and mortar business world, people frequently show up and ask to speak to someone in charge. Indeed, "privacy" is a nonexistent concept in business - you can't be on the "do not call" list, for example. If you're going to put your personal address on your emails, people will show up. They'll email. They'll fax. They'll call. And because you're a business, that's supposed to be something you can handle.

    If you can't, then by all means, get a PO Box. But on the other hand... being accessible is an asset.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Iser
      More like the wrong kind of initiative - unless you dig randoms knocking at your door making a plea for advice.

      Whether it's on or offline, a beggar is a beggar.

      Wrong course of action. Suggesting it holds merit is not a good thing to preach here.

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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by Steve Iser View Post

        Wrong course of action. Suggesting it holds merit is not a good thing to preach here.
        How many books on job hunting have you read that say "just show up at their office" to people?

        How many gurus have you heard say "I showed up on my idol's doorstep, and he was so impressed by my initiative that he taught me everything he knew" when asked about their beginnings?

        How many times do we tell people "90% of success is showing up" when they ask how to improve their lives?

        Make up your damn mind. You have to take the bad with the good. If you can't take it, sure, get a PO Box. But this is what we've told people is the path to success for decades.

        Privacy is just like your "corporate veil" on personal liability. Once you lose it, it's gone, man. Get used to it. Adjust your life accordingly.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
          LOL. I'd love to see someone making the trek all the way to my office. Hope you like green tea.
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          • Profile picture of the author eholmlund
            Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

            LOL. I'd love to see someone making the trek all the way to my office. Hope you like green tea.
            Is that an invitation?
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          • Profile picture of the author Steve Faber
            Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

            LOL. I'd love to see someone making the trek all the way to my office. Hope you like green tea.
            I love it. I get 100 bags at Costco for about $10.
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            • Profile picture of the author Oscar D
              Originally Posted by opportunitiesaplenty View Post

              I love it. I get 100 bags at Costco for about $10.
              Sounds like a bargain
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          • Profile picture of the author samstephens
            Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

            LOL. I'd love to see someone making the trek all the way to my office. Hope you like green tea.
            When Maxy get's a bit older, I plan to do just that. I may even demand you and your lovely wife show me and my lovely wife around some of the sights - especially with some local food markets.

            Just a warning...
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            • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
              An alternative to a PO box is a virtual office, I apparently own a suite in Mayfair London and in New York, ain't I swish...

              In reality it's a deposit box but it achives the goal and the addresses look more professional than a PO box address which in my opinion can actually look a bit low rent, almost as if you have something to hide.
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              • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
                Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post

                An alternative to a PO box is a virtual office, I apparently own a suite in Mayfair London and in New York, ain't I swish...

                In reality it's a deposit box but it achives the goal and the addresses look more professional than a PO box address which in my opinion can actually look a bit low rent, almost as if you have something to hide.
                Yup... this is advice right here!! ^ ^^

                "Virtual office" is perfect for this kind of scenario...

                Although, I do happen to agree with CDarklock here. If you are in business, then you need to be prepared for stuff like this.

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                • Profile picture of the author policy
                  Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post

                  An alternative to a PO box is a virtual office, I apparently own a suite in Mayfair London and in New York, ain't I swish...

                  In reality it's a deposit box but it achives the goal and the addresses look more professional than a PO box address which in my opinion can actually look a bit low rent, almost as if you have something to hide.
                  Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

                  Yup... this is advice right here!! ^ ^^

                  "Virtual office" is perfect for this kind of scenario...

                  Although, I do happen to agree with CDarklock here. If you are in business, then you need to be prepared for stuff like this.

                  Peace

                  Jay
                  If you guys don't mind spilling the beans, which service do you use for this "Virtual Office"?

                  Thanks!
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            • Profile picture of the author TrekkieGrrrl
              Originally Posted by cosmokid View Post

              *sits back and giggles at this entire thread*

              *waits for more women to chime in*

              *gets impatient and says, "What the hell."*

              Um, when you are female and you have dealt with stalkers and death threats in the past, this entire topic comes across VERY differently than the little happy dappy world most of you male marketers apparently live in.

              My stalkers were people who LOVED AND ADORED me, by the way. Not people who hated me. But when they couldn't get access -- because, hell, I didn't know them and had no prior relationship with them of ANY kind --- they got scary and threatening. Police laughed it off because, I quote, "They hadn't done anything yet."

              You guys really need to grow the hell up. If nothing else, there is likely to be a woman, girlfriend, wife, or daughter in your immediate life, and these issues might well reach a point where they affect THEIR safety, too.
              I agree. Having some strange guy show up at my house would not set well with me.

              Been there, done that with stalkers. Very scary situation.

              If they are on a mailing list, how hard is it to send a return email and ask for a meeting? Surely there is some way to contact the person doing the mailings.

              To impulsively show up at someone's house or office is just that - impulsive (unless they are literally in the neighborhood).

              What if they drove all that way and the person is out of town? Or has meetings? Or says, "Come back in two weeks"?

              I have to put an address on my mailings because the law says I have to. That doesn't mean you can just show up at my home or office unannounced.

              (And, yes, I use a PO Box. Of course, with the Freedom of Information Act you can get the person's real address, but that's another story.)

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          • Profile picture of the author Joseph Ratliff
            Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

            LOL. I'd love to see someone making the trek all the way to my office. Hope you like green tea.
            Kevin lives in Hamsterville, Japan in case anyone's interested
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        Originally Posted by Steve Iser View Post

        More like the wrong kind of initiative - unless you dig randoms knocking at your door making a plea for advice.

        Whether it's on or offline, a beggar is a beggar.

        Wrong course of action. Suggesting it holds merit is not a good thing to preach here.

        - Steve
        I must say that I strongly agree with Jay and CDarklock on this one.

        One of the main points the "gurus" try to teach all the newbies is to treat what you do as a business.

        I can fully understand that an unexpected visit at your door can be both scary and annoying. However, I think the responsibility for this happening is on your side. Using that address was not treating what you do as a business.
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    • Profile picture of the author robinpike
      I completely agree!! Having a business you do put yourself in the spotlight and if I'm not mistaken this is what you really want to do to make a name for yourself.

      Granted you don't want just anyone showing up at your home -- it is a pretty unnerving thing but in an offline biz you wouldn't be putting your home address so why would you use your home address online???

      I agree, a post office box is the best way to go. I have a post office box that I use for online biz and I have it through the UPS Store. It appears to be a stress address to make it still look like a biz address but it is only a box at the store... it is much better than having P.O. Box 1234 -- I don't think this shows good biz to the outsider looking in... just my HO



      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      Sounds like taking the initiative to me!

      Look, we tell people to "take action" all the time. And in the brick and mortar business world, people frequently show up and ask to speak to someone in charge. Indeed, "privacy" is a nonexistent concept in business - you can't be on the "do not call" list, for example. If you're going to put your personal address on your emails, people will show up. They'll email. They'll fax. They'll call. And because you're a business, that's supposed to be something you can handle.

      If you can't, then by all means, get a PO Box. But on the other hand... being accessible is an asset.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel E Taylor
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      Sounds like taking the initiative to me!

      Look, we tell people to "take action" all the time. And in the brick and mortar business world, people frequently show up and ask to speak to someone in charge. Indeed, "privacy" is a nonexistent concept in business - you can't be on the "do not call" list, for example. If you're going to put your personal address on your emails, people will show up. They'll email. They'll fax. They'll call. And because you're a business, that's supposed to be something you can handle.

      If you can't, then by all means, get a PO Box. But on the other hand... being accessible is an asset.
      I think you're going about this all wrong.

      I believe (I could be mistaken) this is for people who
      run their business from their home (Which I assume most on here do).

      This isn't about initiative this is about safety. Do you want every
      person in the world knowing where you and your family live?

      What about pissed off prospects? Angry customers?

      Things most people don't think about but it is very real
      and I suggest anyone get a PO box instead of using
      your home address.

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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by Daniel E Taylor View Post

        I think you're going about this all wrong.

        I believe (I could be mistaken) this is for people who
        run their business from their home (Which I assume most on here do).

        This isn't about initiative this is about safety. Do you want every
        person in the world knowing where you and your family live?

        What about pissed off prospects? Angry customers?

        Things most people don't think about but it is very real
        and I suggest anyone get a PO box instead of using
        your home address.

        Daniel
        Good point Daniel - I have always used a P.O. Box anyways... You think I trust my mail to sit side the road in some metal box ....

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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by Daniel E Taylor View Post

        This isn't about initiative this is about safety. Do you want every person in the world knowing where you and your family live?
        Do you want to spend the rest of your life hiding from the world, because some few of them might not like you?

        What about pissed off prospects? Angry customers?
        I don't know about you, but I try not to have any of those.
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    • Profile picture of the author ShaneM686
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      Sounds like taking the initiative to me!

      Look, we tell people to "take action" all the time. And in the brick and mortar business world, people frequently show up and ask to speak to someone in charge. Indeed, "privacy" is a nonexistent concept in business - you can't be on the "do not call" list, for example. If you're going to put your personal address on your emails, people will show up. They'll email. They'll fax. They'll call. And because you're a business, that's supposed to be something you can handle.

      If you can't, then by all means, get a PO Box. But on the other hand... being accessible is an asset.
      I'm from the midwest... if you show up uninvited and without very good reason. I'll be telling you to get lost in about 5 seconds.
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      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      Sounds like taking the initiative to me!

      Look, we tell people to "take action" all the time. And in the brick and mortar business world, people frequently show up and ask to speak to someone in charge. Indeed, "privacy" is a nonexistent concept in business - you can't be on the "do not call" list, for example. If you're going to put your personal address on your emails, people will show up. They'll email. They'll fax. They'll call. And because you're a business, that's supposed to be something you can handle.

      If you can't, then by all means, get a PO Box. But on the other hand... being accessible is an asset.
      Raping a woman is taking the initiative/taking action too, but that doesn't mean it's a good thing. And in case you haven't noticed, this isn't the brick and mortar world. What's appropriate for one isn't appropriate for another. We go to doctors for medical advice. That doesn't mean plumbers should expect people to go to them for medical advice too.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        Amazing how many old threads by 2009 have been bumped in the past few days.

        As a woman who lives alone and is 5'4" and 115 lbs - I don't want some strange person at my door. (In my mind, you'd have to be a bit odd to take the time to track down a list owner.)

        I'm not fearful - but I'm not stupid, either. I'll answer the door if a stranger knocks but they won't be coming inside. Once they see Gracie at my side, they don't usually want to come in, anyway:rolleyes: Damn, I love big dogs.

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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Iser
    Riley hit me up man.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zanti
    You can also use the Post Office's street address with you P. O. Box, like

    123 Main St. (Post office address)
    Suite 456
    Anytown, USA 55512
    (If your P.O. Box is 456 then mail addressed to suite 456 will go to it, using the physical address of the Post Office.)
    Try addressing a letter to yourself in this way and you will see that you get it with no problems.

    Hey K. Riley, if I show up will you teach me everything you know

    Look for me next week, but don't wait up.

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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
    Originally Posted by Steve Iser View Post

    Folks,

    If you run subscriber lists online, CANSPAM requires your contact details.

    I've had my Student House address listed (since I was a Uni student living w/ roommates).

    Anyway...

    Today I got an email from a dude who actually drove 2 hours to my old Student house, and was looking for me for marketing help - my roommates were totally sketched out.

    (If you're the dude who emailed me today, sorry bud. Just a 'lil awkward for me too.)

    This is the 2nd time this has happened. Once in a completely different market.

    Do yourself a favor and get a PO Box if you value your privacy.

    Stupid me.

    - Steve

    PS. The email - censored out:

    1259217451-clip-11kb.png file download
    Or you could just state specific office hours, and request they call a number you give them before hunting you down, and not just show up.

    God, I love Gary Halbert's tips.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hamish Jones
    Personally, I think everybody has good points here.

    Without knowing the full details about what sort of email list he was on, it is hard to make a full judgement call.

    I mean, if you are promoting a work at home biz, and telling your subscribers that you work from home, it is a bit weird to turn up at someone's home address. It still seems a little weird to me that the guy went in to his room. I would've thought it would be pretty clear that it was student accommodation when you turned up out the front.

    On another note, if you are trying to portray your business as something other than anything run from home, you do need to be prepared for people to try and contact you in ways other than online, whether this be via phone or via people trying to visit your place of business.

    For security of mail, I think that it is important that you have a PO Box for business. If you work from home, you may want this to be your only advertised address. However, from a marketing perspective, and in terms of building legitimacy, for a lot of people, a physical street address can boost credibility. In this way, a Virtual Office may be ideal, especially if they have a receptionist who can answer phone calls and take messages.
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  • Profile picture of the author Roger Santos
    You can also use a private mailbox like a UPS store or Mailbox etc.

    I would never use my personal home address. For phone, you could use a forwarding service.

    That is weird though having someone showing up at your doorstep.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stanley Tang
    Yeah agree man. Should make the distinct split between personal life and business
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    Well, if you don't publicize your phone number - then obviously
    people who want to talk to you won't call first.

    I see little merit in hiding from the marketplace - but if you have
    a reason to hide, that's your choice. I've made my contact
    information public for years and I've never had a problem.

    That being said, if you have people sending you a lot of
    money in the mail get a PO Box for that.

    I don't vibe with the whole fear thing a lot of people have
    these days. If you fixate on things like that you reap what
    you sow. ("Think and Grow Rich" - chapter 15)
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Taylor
      Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye View Post

      I don't vibe with the whole fear thing a lot of people have these days. If you fixate on things like that you reap what you sow.
      I doubt John Lennon was fixated on getting shot by a lunatic in New York. Bad things also happen to people who think happy thawts.
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    • Profile picture of the author brchap
      Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye View Post

      Well, if you don't publicize your phone number - then obviously people who want to talk to you won't call first.

      I see little merit in hiding from the marketplace - but if you have
      a reason to hide, that's your choice. I've made my contact
      information public for years and I've never had a problem.

      That being said, if you have people sending you a lot of
      money in the mail get a PO Box for that.

      I don't vibe with the whole fear thing a lot of people have
      these days. If you fixate on things like that you reap what
      you sow. ("Think and Grow Rich" - chapter 15)
      You hit the nail on the head on this one... I was trying to come up with the words, but you put it so eloquently that I decided to just quote you. I'm too tired to be original tonight.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurenceh
    I understand the need to be transparent, and if you are a legitimate business and provide good service then it should not be a problem.

    However if you work from home (as many do) then it can be a worry if someone with issues arrived at the family home!

    Remember that 2nd life case where someone went from the u.s all the way to Germany to attack someone!

    I like the idea of a forwarding address.
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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    It is occasions like this, guns were made for.

    That guy does sound a little stalker-like.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    hmm....I'll have to think on this as I do want to start list building. I don't want people showing up uninvited, but do take what I do seriously.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

      hmm....I'll have to think on this as I do want to start list building. I don't want people showing up uninvited, but do take what I do seriously.
      Oh thanks there goes my unannouced trip to your house Erik ...

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  • Profile picture of the author gronstone
    That's amazing. I guess people are desperate enough to try and track you down. I think I'll take your advice for my websites.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Hooper
    Agreed. I've had this happen also. Fortunately, the address I used was a UPS Store, which also offers postal boxes.
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  • Profile picture of the author MemberWing
    Well sign of a subscriber on your doorsteps means number of things:
    - You're in the right business
    - You established yourself as an authority
    - People trust you can help them to solve their problems and ready to tell their friends about how great are you.

    With some power comes some responsibility. If you want to maintain all above - you might want to invite guy in and answer his questions.
    Refusing and building walls between you and customer would mean less opportunities are taken advantage of.

    With all that being said - I am not sure how i would personally feel about this happening to me It might scare me or my family - possible.

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    • Profile picture of the author David Hooper
      Originally Posted by MemberWing View Post

      Well sign of a subscriber on your doorsteps means number of things:
      - You're in the right business
      - You established yourself as an authority
      - People trust you can help them to solve their problems and ready to tell their friends about how great are you.
      Or it would be, as it was in my case, that somebody is skeptical and won't be happy regardless of what you tell them.

      Originally Posted by MemberWing View Post

      With some power comes some responsibility. If you want to maintain all above - you might want to invite guy in and answer his questions.
      Refusing and building walls between you and customer would mean less opportunities are taken advantage of.
      I disagree. I know where Barack Obama lives, but I can't just show up to ask him questions. I run my business the same way. If you have questions, there is a better way for you to ask them than showing up at my house.
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  • Profile picture of the author MemberWing
    I don't vibe with the whole fear thing a lot of people have
    these days. If you fixate on things like that you reap what
    you sow. ("Think and Grow Rich" - chapter 15)
    ...well said!
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  • This is also why I use GoDaddy's Proxy service so the Whois Info is not public. Back in the Day I worked as a Security Guard in College. Very weird people show up to stalk people... even ordinary people. There is a trade off between safety and being legitimate, but safety comes first.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jakehyten
    Thats something i would do. He'll make it just needs to find someone that will mentor him
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    • Profile picture of the author JeepWrangler
      Haha, the censors didn't work for me, Steve! As soon as I read the email, I was like, "Oxford Street, in ONTARIO? There's only 1 college and 1 university that is close to an Oxford street"

      Don't worry, I won't come stalking you.
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  • Profile picture of the author BIG Mike
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    I use my main office mailing address for this - as well as telephone numbers. Never had anyone show up, but do get some telephone calls now and then.

    I think the main point a lot of folks overlook when "Working" from their home is that they are in fact running a business. If you cannot use your home address, then a P.O.Box is nice - but a street address is better in my opinion.

    I'm always a little suspect of seeing a P.O.Box for a marketer - unless I know them. To me it's a credibility issue...what are they hiding? I understand the desire for personal privacy, but real businesses don't try to hide their physical location.

    To me it says one man shop and not a real business - so it's a risk.

    That's not to suggest a P.O.Box is a bad thing, hell, large, well known companies use them all the time for billing and so forth, But with so much skepticism about online marketers these days, it seems like one more credibility issue.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    If you have a whole business you have an office, opening hours, receptionist etc.

    I'm in this business because I like *avoiding* all of that.

    Some days I don't start work til 3pm... I break up my days with video games or long lunches... hanging out with friends... whatever.

    Furthermore I love working from home so an actual office isn't only an unnecessary expense... it'd erase half the reason I love this business.

    I don't want people turning up on my doorstep, regardless of their intentions. I don't like people trying to sell stuff or religious groups either.

    With my niche products, I provide email support. That's it. If I felt compelled I might offer my phone number but email is far easier.

    Am I losing sales? Possibly. I don't think it's a big number, but it's worth it for my privacy.

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    • Profile picture of the author css
      All good points! I had junk mail coming in based on my whois. I called the host up and said why is my info public? I turned it off and it was back on again. I said turn that s**t off now!

      I was doing a little research on someone and I like to track the whois address with Google streetview. It turned out to be an empty parking lot in North Dakota! Nice! This would put a crimp in you're PayPal validation I would think. Next time someone looks me up it might be a parking lot or a post office.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shana_Adam
    Ive had a po box for the past 5 years. It is absolutely essential for business to have an address that is not your home address or similar especially with the exposure IM'ers get on the internet.

    You never know who you may cross and end up in a very sticky situation with.

    There are some very delusional and dangerous people out there with grudges for not emailing them back within 5minutes. Yep you know those ones.
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    • Profile picture of the author edhan
      Yes. Guess the thumb rule is not to use home address for business that may ended up having stalkers or angry clients making a commotion.

      If you are dealing with business, having an office will be ideal. So when clients come to your office, you will be able to handle the matter. I always welcome clients to drop by and have a chat. From there, we tend to create a kind of long term relationship.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
        I'm not running a brick/mortar retail store so I don't want people to just drop by my house.

        People usually don't just show up at a lawyer or a dentist office you call/email for an appointment. That courtesy should have been extended to the OP vs. just showing up.

        I do have something to hide. My house address where my family lives. But I'm accessible and have met with local subscribers but they always ask first so we meet at a coffee shop or Panera. No one has ever just dropped by. But then again I use a PO Box.

        Now if you're selling offline or consulting/coaching type services then I agree you need to be more accessible.
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    I agree pretty much with CDarklock above.

    Running a business means being accessible. People do weird things. Live with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Derek S
    yeah I have had this happen 3 times to me this year. You would think that a person faced with a two hour drive and given a phone number and address would call first but nope!

    TIP: I use a PO box at a mall that allows you to skip the PO box # and will file your mail by name so people have no clue their letter is sent to a PO box.

    Plus the upside is if they street view the address and see a mall it looks more professional.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
    Way back in the day I used to publicize my home address, since I set up a full home office from which to do my online business. That went along just fine for years, and I never gave it a second thought.

    Then one day I was threatened by a "customer" (long story, not worth going into). He lived not far away and promised to show up at my place of business (my home, of course) and intimated that he would possibly do bodily harm to me or others if he was not satisfied.

    I paused, looked at my wife and two young daugthers, then decided that a PO Box would be just fine to advertise for my online business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Gosse
    I have always used PO Boxes. Started in adult and wanted to protect my staff.

    Good advice!
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    • Profile picture of the author Jack Bastide
      Originally Posted by JasonHicks View Post

      Wow that's scary.

      If someone did that to me, I'd be PISSED. lol
      Ok Ok so it was me

      What's the Big deal?

      I had a little time on my hands and I drove a few thousand
      miles to meet a fellow warrior

      Didn't realize I would get all this flack , Won't do THAT again!

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  • Profile picture of the author zerofill
    If someone actually shows up at my house...and doesn't ask first... Uhhhh... Probably not gonna like the person they meet...lol
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  • Profile picture of the author gbd
    I agree, PO Box is the way to go. Also unlisted phone number associated with your name. As an offline author, I learned this lesson the hard way after my second book was published.
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  • Profile picture of the author goliathseo
    I agree with many points on this thread as you need to be accessible to clients if you are marketing offline, but if you do value privacy or in the case Steve then a P.O box is more appropriate. If you have nothing to hide, don't have a family to worry about then use your address as it looks more professional. If you feel threatened it is your right in the U.S of course with the proper licensing to have a gun available. If the person comes at you with the intent to cause bodily harm, then shoot them and claim self defense if there is enough evidence to show that lethal force was warranted(i.e. person holding a bat or crow bar in their hands, etc.

    I agree that people should take action, but to use their judgement before making a trip whatever to the advertised address. You as the marketer should exercise proper judgment as well. I myself welcome people to show up, but that is why I make sure on my website to list my phone number or at least a widget for google voice for people to contact me through...
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  • Profile picture of the author artwebster
    Yeah. Right.

    You're a marketer who wants to have the right to approach people without giving them reciprocal rights.

    If you must hide, get off the web and go offline.

    Just because certain pooo-litical leaders have decided to rule by the threat of terror does not mean that everybody who gets your address is a terrorist. If you offer a service you should be able to handle requests for that service no matter how they are made. Incompetence is not an option.

    Office hours are office hours - I did not see that this guy called outside of them.

    It's happened to you twice? Wow! It happens to me twice a month - but then, I offer a unique free service few others can provide so who am I to hide myself away?
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  • Profile picture of the author theemperor
    This has happened to me before, but at my actual address.

    It didn't really bother me, to be honest. Was kind of cool

    It did make me consider a P.O. at the time. But it hasn't happened since.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
    You could use this to your advantage.

    Perhaps there is a way to get wealthy, single, attractive, blonde females to show up.

    If you figure this out then let me know.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave Rodman
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    I agree with the OP. To me, that's just WEIRD. If a traditional business and people visit my physical location (which is not retail, mostly shipping), then it's fine.

    IM is known as a business where most people work from their homes. So showing up at someone's address is not showing initiative, it's more showing a complete lack of self-awareness.

    I'll cut someone some slack if they just drive to the location and think it's a business address. But to follow through and knock on the door of a residence is so strange.

    To me, it's not the equivalent of showing up at a business. It's like showing up at the CEO's house.
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    *wonders if people realize the thread is from 2009*
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    • Profile picture of the author Ralph Moore
      Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

      *wonders if people realize the thread is from 2009*
      Yeah, I noticed that but read it anyway as it was interesting.

      Just goes to show you a bit of the depth and relevance of the Warrior Forum.
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      Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

      *wonders if people realize the thread is from 2009*
      Was the tip "Get a PO Box" was only relevant in 2009?
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      • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
        Originally Posted by eagle View Post

        Yeah, I noticed that but read it anyway as it was interesting.

        Just goes to show you a bit of the depth and relevance of the Warrior Forum.
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        Was the tip "Get a PO Box" was only relevant in 2009?
        It's relevant today of course.. I'm just saying... Is the Hamster king still offering us place at his pad, for a cup of tea?

        I need to get one of those... Some people have a knack of sending me candy via UPS.

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    I agree with using a PO box, UPS store box or virtual mail box for you home based business address.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
    You guys are all welcome to come to visit my home:

    Steven Carl Kelly Enterprises
    Post Office Box 2184
    Riverview, Florida 33568-2184
    USA

    It's a large house with big glass automatic doors, and a whole bunch of tiny little apartments inside.
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    And now I'm actually buying on eonline...
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