Expert VS Guru

14 years ago

You can be a guru without being an expert.

A guru is one who has a following regardless of knowledge.

Since this business relies on traffic it would appear that being a guru with followers would be better for business.

But what do you do when the followers quit following?

I'd rather be an expert.

Matt

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Ralf Skirr

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Matt M

You can be a guru without being an expert.

A guru is one who has a following regardless of knowledge.

Since this business relies on traffic it would appear that being a guru with followers would be better for business.

But what do you do when the followers quit following?

I'd rather be an expert.

Matt

Hm, why not being guru and expert at the same time?

An expert with guru status will have it much easier to earn money than an expert who is completely unknown.

Also once someone is considered guru it is highly unlikely that all the followers would quit following. Any guru would have to screw up very badly - and that probably means he wasn't an expert after all.

Ralf

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Matt Bard 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ralf Skirr

Hm, why not being guru and expert at the same time?

Agree and it would be the optimal solution but I thought the OP wanted to know the difference and if there is a difference which would be better.

In my mind, it would be better to know how to get followers whenever you needed as opposed to relying on your charisma.

Knowing how to do something stays with you and charisma is fleeting.

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- tryinhere 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Matt M
  
  In my mind, it would be better to know how to get followers whenever you needed as opposed to relying on your charisma.
  
  A true leader only needs to look behind to see who is following.
  
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cdhartpence

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ralf Skirr

Hm, why not being guru and expert at the same time?

An expert with guru status will have it much easier to earn money than an expert who is completely unknown.

Also once someone is considered guru it is highly unlikely that all the followers would quit following. Any guru would have to screw up very badly - and that probably means he wasn't an expert after all.

Ralf

So...sort of an "Exru" or "Guspert"

I like it.

-=Vel=-

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sbucciarel

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by cdhartpence

So...sort of an "Exru" or "Guspert"

I like it.

-=Vel=-

or how about ExGoo? I like it.

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Tina Golden

14 years ago

If you choose to call yourself a guru, you are not one. Others decide whether you are a guru or not.

A guru can be an expert but not necessarily so.

Tina

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dljmktg1

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises

If you choose to call yourself a guru, you are not one. Others decide whether you are a guru or not.

A guru can be an expert but not necessarily so.

Tina

Exactly what I was going to say. Besides, with all the bashing going on lately, why would you want to call yourself one?

Dan

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CDarklock 14 years ago

Originally Posted by cdhartpence

So...sort of an "Exru" or "Guspert"

Spurting goo isn't the image I want my customers to have of me.
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- trilogy09 14 years ago
  
  I don't recommend ever referring to yourself as a "guru" simply bc/ at this day and age most people who have basic knowledge in internet marketing see these individuals as bad. Guru's are typically the people that scam others in to following their programs and it is rarely true to find a guru who is also an expert. Stay away from using this word to describe yourself if you want respect for your knowledge in internet marketing.
  
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Jason H

14 years ago

Right now, I'm thinking being an expert is better for the customer in terms of content wise, but a guru is just a celebrity, who may or may not be useful for learning from who is just purely for entertainment, contrasted to an expert who provides expertise.

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Patricia1

14 years ago

My husband refers to me as a Gnu, not the same as Guru is it?

Anyway, expert or guru I'd prefer one or the other.

Patricia

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tknoppe

14 years ago

My thoughts are, you can call yourself an expert, based on your experience level and knowledge.

'Guru' status is a title given to you by someone else or a group of people and may or may not have much to do with your actual experience. I agree, the guru title has more to do with celebrity. A charismatic personalty can attract a lot of followers, but that does not always equate to experience on their part.

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Mukul Verma

14 years ago

Experts based on experienced.
Guru based on following and training skills more soo..

I am a expert at Video Marketing (1.3 million views on You Tube), I am not a Guru by far at it.

I think Guru start as experts in one area, then get more focused on the teaching, training and getting followers business, that the knowledge is a smaller part of the formula.

I like learning from experts!!!1

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Andyhenry

14 years ago

Being an expert and being a guru are both subjective things that other people attribute to you. Although it's possible to prove you're an expert- but not sure about Guru.

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Amitywill

14 years ago

A Guru is a teacher. And you know what they say about teachers...

"Those that can't do teach".

That's why most of these 'Gurus' only make their money by doing
product launches i.e. teaching.

I'm an expert at SEO and converting traffic that's how I make my money
and I don't have any followers but I probably make more money than
quite a few of these 'Gurus' without all the hassle of doing customer
service and running a stressful product launch.

Plus if I ever got called a Guru I'd probably want to shoot myself in the
head because then it would put me in the same category as all those
sleazy marketers that only make money by releasing crap to the newbies.

So I'd go with Expert over Guru.

Will

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Jason H

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Amitywill

A Guru is a teacher. And you know what they say about teachers...

"Those that can't do teach".

That's why most of these 'Gurus' only make their money by doing
product launches i.e. teaching.

I'm an expert at SEO and converting traffic that's how I make my money
and I don't have any followers but I probably make more money than
quite a few of these 'Gurus' without all the hassle of doing customer
service and running a stressful product launch.

Plus if I ever got called a Guru I'd probably want to shoot myself in the
head because then it would put me in the same category as all those
sleazy marketers that only make money by releasing crap to the newbies.

So I'd go with Expert over Guru.

Will

Interesting, "guru" does sound like it has a snake-oil salesman connotation to it, while an "expert" has their own specialty into helping other people with their own expertise and is more qualified.

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ibok10

14 years ago

You can be a guru without being an expert. A guru is one who has a following regardless of knowledge.

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Jason H 14 years ago

Originally Posted by ibok10

You can be a guru without being an expert. A guru is one who has a following regardless of knowledge.

If that is the case, then what is the point of learning from a guru? Gurus are then just celebrity with a strong cult follower and has extreme social proof, only there for entertainment.
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MichaelHiles

14 years ago

"he who dispels darkness"

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WD Mino 14 years ago

Hi,

guru is often associated with indian (india hinduism)teachers prophets and or gods.
however there is other definitions for the word which means a leader in their field. a leader in their field? wouldn't an expert be a leader in their field?
Seems to me the word though corny means the same thing. a guru that has a following only would pertain to the teachers in the hindu religion otherwise if one is called a guru it is trying to relate they are leaders the president of the US is a guru. the prime minister of my country Canada is a guru they are leaders in their field.
So to bash someone because they are called a guru doesn't make any sense.

I must say i chuckled over this it really does only take a couple seconds to look the word up ;=)

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Erik Ortega

14 years ago

From my experience, I think an expert can show you exactly how to make money and teach you how to make it work for you where as a guru talks about what worked for them and leaves it at that. Not very personalized.

A lot more entails each side but i think i'd rather have an expert then a guru on my site.

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Lance K 14 years ago

Guru is to Expert as Square is to Rectangle.
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sdentrepreneur

14 years ago

Good point Erik, you become an Expert by putting in the time training yourself to become one. I laugh at some of these affiliate links, people calling them self an Expert pitching a landing/squeeze page someone else built. Sad....

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dsmpublishing

14 years ago

Hi guys

i would prefer to be an expert any day after all we all spend a lot of our time slating a guru for one reason or another. I mean how many times have you read on the warrior that a certain guru posts to their mailing list everyday when we are told that we must do the complete opposite?

With a guru you are also expected to have a knowledge of a number of things and to break into internet marketing as a newbie you need to only be experienced in one small subject.

This could be for example someone that is really good with CPA could be a CPA expert even though they dont even know how to build a mailing list.

If you are to use the wf as an example you could say that it is a forum with many experts in totally different fields that are here to help people.

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