Squeeze Page Model - True Or False

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If a visitor to your site won't even give you their email, they definitely won't buy your product. True or False and why?
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  • Profile picture of the author gotdmw
    i have had some questions about this also, i decided to create a sales page and a opt in page and test which gets better results. and which produces better conversions the email campaign or the straight sales page.

    would love to hear some thoughts on this topic.
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  • Probably true. If they're not interested enough on your info to give out their email, how are they going to be interested enough to swing their credit card? Many visitors are simply curious folks not willing/needing to spend any money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Depends. Some people are reluctant to give info because they don't want
      to be bombarded with spam, however, they may have no problem paying
      for a product online with a credit card where they know that there is no
      way you can possibly find a way to send them junk emails.

      So no, this isn't always true.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Also, some people will buy your product but don't want to be on your list
        because they don't want to be bombarded with other product offers. They
        want the one thing you have, know they won't want or need anything else
        and don't want to be "annoyed" every time you get a bug up your ass with
        an urge to hound them about the latest "you gotta have this" product.

        A lot of that has to do with the reps a lot of marketers have drawn to
        themselves.

        I go to XYZ store off line to buy stuff but don't want to give them my
        personal info when they ask me so I make up stuff.

        It's the same thing.
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        • Profile picture of the author RMC
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          I go to XYZ store off line to buy stuff but don't want to give them my
          personal info when they ask me so I make up stuff.

          It's the same thing.
          Yeah great point. I regularly turn down offline requests to get my email, even after I spent however much in the store.

          I think because it's even more likely that an offline store is going to send pure sales pitches and not so much any kind of useful content.

          Now, when I order online, I never think twice about putting in the email when it's after the sale to "register". I'm guessing because I want to make darn sure they can get a hold of me with info on the purchase.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
            IMO, False. There are people who buy from me and give obviously fake e-mail addresses to my shopping cart.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    False.

    When they see your opt-in they don't know you and may not trust you.

    Traditionally, there are more "persuaders" and trust building elements on a sales page as opposed to an opt-in.

    When they see testimonials and the Paypal logo by your order button they know them and trust them.

    It allows a sense of security knowing that their information is handled by someone they trust and lets them see if your product has the value you claim because they know they can get a refund if it does not.


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    • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
      Originally Posted by Matt M View Post

      False.

      When they see your opt-in they don't know you and may not trust you.

      Traditionally, there are more "persuaders" and trust building elements on a sales page as opposed to an opt-in.

      When they see testimonials and the Paypal logo by your order button they know them and trust them.

      It allows a sense of security knowing that their information is handled by someone they trust and lets them see if your product has the value you claim because they know they can get a refund if it does not.


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      • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
        False. I've had people place orders and not provide an eMail address. I guess for some people, giving out their credit card number is easier than giving out their eMail address.

        That might explain the economy though.

        I think people are afraid of spam and being added to lists. I have on the website order form a spiel that we value their privacy and we do not add their eMail to any lists, etc. And that the eMail will only be used to contact them about their order.

        The same order form will also let them subscribe to our mailing list. There is a Yes/No option with the default set at no.

        Even with that, I'll still get people leaving a message "DO NOT ADD ME TO ANY LISTS!" in the comments field.
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        • Profile picture of the author trilogy09
          hey,
          I definitely think it depends on the person. I mean, there have been times where i have been willing to purchase a product but wanted nothing to do with an opt-in email system bc/ i didnt want the spam. However, i think over time you will find that it goes both ways. If someone is willing to buy something then they are probably interested in an opt-in email program....so why not put an opt-in newsletter etc. on a sales page? I have had great success with this.
          Good Luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel E Taylor
    False - But I'd still use an Opt-in.

    Your Opt-In page may not convert well which
    would impact how many subscribers you get.

    And you could have a superb sales letter.

    See what I'm saying.

    Many factors involved.

    But for a general rule of thumb I'd say for many people
    if they won't give you an email address they won't buy IMMEDIATELY.

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  • Profile picture of the author jitterbug978
    Its a toss up.. it depends on the individual for some reason many people fear getting bombarded with spam and simply will not give out their email address..

    I'd say someone could potentially buy something without handing out their email though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
    Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

    If a visitor to your site won't even give you their email, they definitely won't buy your product. True or False and why?
    False. Some people need more interaction with you before they buy. By interaction I am talking about more information. You can not provide that information an a squeeze page, but you certainly can on a long sales letter that includes video, social proof, a great story, ect.

    That is why when you go to my squeeze pages I use an exit pop that pushes the visitor to the sales letter.

    But, it is still always better to go after the lead forst.

    Shannon
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkH45
    Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

    definitely won't buy your product.
    I think "definitely" won't buy your product is false.

    But I always like to see people take some sort of action (even if it's just signing up). Plus, as well all know, now we can presell these people and gain trust/credibility so conversions should be higher from people going from your list to your sales page.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
    Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

    If a visitor to your site won't even give you their email, they definitely won't buy your product. True or False and why?
    False. I'd say they may be less likely, but I wouldn't say that they definitely won't.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
    False. There are many times that I would not enter my email into a squeeze page, but end up buying the product somewhere along the way. I think this is often the case with IM'ers who are faced with opt-in forms many times each day. They may be prime candidates for purchasing the product, but are on way too many mailing lists already.
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  • Profile picture of the author VilPietersen@
    I don't think this is true, if they don't give you their details then you definately won't make a sale, unless you have a link below the opt-in form stating something like "no thanks just take me to the product"

    If however they do give you their details, then you are in a position to overdeliver with content and "cool free stuff" while at the same time create a relationship with them. The better relationship you have with them the more likely you are to ultimately make a sale.

    It's just that first step of making them trust you on the squeeze page isn't it?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ernie Mitchell
    Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

    If a visitor to your site won't even give you their email, they definitely won't buy your product. True or False and why?
    "False"

    The reason is a little thing called "Foreplay" --- in this case "Commercial" Foreplay.

    How many women would say "Yes" to a marriage proposal on the first date? The majority of your prospective customers are no different.

    Commercial courtship involves a dance of many varieties of foreplay. It stands to reason that visitors don't always make a purchase on their first visit to your website. Yes, I know that the odds of a sale decrease drastically if a visitor exits the first visit without buying BUT --- if there were no return/repeat visitors that make multiple visits before they purchase there would be no need for extended life tracking cookies.

    Sometimes prospective customers are shy and need to slowly get comfortable with you and your offer before getting intimate enough to allow you access to their finances or their email in-box. Some will return several times to get acquainted and learn about your offer before purchasing. IMHO, after these shy but deliberate people finally decided to make their first purchase they are more prone to also purchase a one-time-backend offer at check-out AND to fall into that golden 5% that become hyper-buyers.

    For "shy" buyers offer a way to opt-in before exiting the shopping cart --- after they have purchased.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trieu
    More chance they will buy, they give an email, because most won't buy straight away. It will take time to warm them up with autoresponder messages. However, if you selling physical products, email isn't usually required.
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