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Looking at the desperation of some warriors regarding finding a niche to sell or a good product to promote it is obvious that they may not have done enough research into what will drive them to success. This lack of passion requires looking at themselves first.

It has always been my thing to make your hobby your business and many have succeeded in creating great websites and blogs doing just that. It can be anything, even collecting old tin cans, as long as the passion comes through.

With your heart in it writing, composing web sites etc. comes easy because things flow out naturally. Once your site follows your heart you know what to do, how you want to market your product, where to go for buyers and how to turn them into clients.

The client respects you because you display credibility, are honest in your goals, and you offer quality and service rather than someone's else's ideas. Of course you will never not need the WF for learning techniques, and the other things required for generating a good business.

Good service follows passion and doing the right thing.

That's my take on it.
#passion #sells
  • Profile picture of the author KenJ
    Norma

    I agree totally

    I have stopped following the crown and now work in the fields that I am interested in and have lots of knowledge.

    My things are

    Musician,
    reading,
    Gardening
    Dieter,
    Health food freak

    I find running an internet business in these niches is east for me because I am there already.

    Your list might be different - lets hope so! But work your own set of niches
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
    I'd rather find a market where people want to buy something.

    Good luck with your tin can ebook.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood View Post

      I'd rather find a market where people want to buy something.

      Good luck with your tin can ebook.
      Chris, you might be surprised what some people will pay for 'tin cans' these days.

      A few years ago, my wife's bachelor uncle passed away, and the family got together to clean up the house and get it ready to sell.

      There were cans of every vintage, from the late 40's to modern day. Some of us started filling some plastic bags, while one smart cookie ran into town and borrowed a book from the public library.

      An hour spent sorting the cans, and we ended up with three piles - aluminum scrap, other scrap, and collectibles. The aluminum brought a few dollars, the other scrap almost nothing, and the collectibles almost a thousand bucks.

      I'm guessing that anyone who might put down serious coin to buy an old can might pop $20 for a book on finding and valuing more of them...

      There are tons of squirrelly little market niches that you or I might laugh at, while a true insider smiles and counts their money...
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      • Profile picture of the author Ouroboros
        The only problem with a 'passion' niche is that you have to create your own product often as not.

        I chose a 'passion' niche, researched it at clickbank and other affiliate sites, and found that I totally disagreed with the 'crap' that was being marketed.

        Nothing to do but create your own product and go through the whole marketing cycle right off the bat! Not Easy!

        Start with something people are buying and then when you know what you're doing, find your authority niche.

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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        There are tons of squirrelly little market niches that you or I might laugh at, while a true insider smiles and counts their money...
        There are also lots of niches where the product creator might be excited, but people aren't interested in paying for a product, which was my point, not that "tin cans" is a bad niche.

        How many people have we seen create products that nobody wanted? I'm sure many of those creators were passionate about their topic.

        It makes more sense to find something that a market is passionate about, rather than just you are.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood View Post

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          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe
          There are tons of squirrelly little market niches that you or I might laugh at, while a true insider smiles and counts their money...

          There are also lots of niches where the product creator might be excited, but people aren't interested in paying for a product, which was my point, not that "tin cans" is a bad niche.

          How many people have we seen create products that nobody wanted? I'm sure many of those creators were passionate about their topic.

          It makes more sense to find something that a market is passionate about, rather than just you are.
          There are indeed lots of niches where even the most passionate may not pay for a product. And it does make sense to find something a market is passionate about. No argument there.

          My point was that sometimes little niche markets that appear to make no sense to outside observers like you and I might make perfect sense to an insider. That still doesn't absolve the would-be creator from doing proper market assessment before sinking a lot of time and effort into a product.

          'Tin cans' just happened to be an example that popped up. Before my experience with getting ready for an estate auction, I'd have ignored the 'tin can' market totally. Then again, I'm not a collector.

          Even in the smallest viable markets, somebody will be selling something. If no one is selling or advertising, odds are it's because no one is buying.

          In the 'tin can' example, there are buying guides, collector groups, magazines, collector shows and more evidence that people are both interested and willing to spend money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Norma Holt
      Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood View Post

      I'd rather find a market where people want to buy something.

      Good luck with your tin can ebook.
      I know this is tongue in cheek 'cheek' on your part Chris but what do you think someone might pay for one that someone like Custer might have eaten out of it or it was in the White House Drawing room during a special event.

      Everything has its price and people will buy anything if the story is right.
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  • Profile picture of the author Success Galore
    I agree with Ouroboros, your purpose in Internet marketting is two fold: -
    (1) to bless lives, and
    (2) to make money.

    (1) To bless lives you need to follow your passion because that is the area you are gifted to add value to others. Nobody in this entire world have exactly everything that you have, meaning that you are unique. If you follow your passion, you may mark time for a long time before you make ir rich.

    (2)To make money you have to assess the Internet and find out what people are looking for and give it to them whether it is your passion or not. My suggestion is this, make the money first then get in to bless the lives of others because as you market what they really need, you are really blessing them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Norma Holt
    Originally Posted by Cash Blasters Online View Post

    You hit the nail on the head, I totally agree, great post AAAAAA+++
    What exactly are you agreeing with? Can't see anyone with the tag AAAAAA+++

    Oh well, I think you mean the post. Good one.
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  • Profile picture of the author jhongren
    Hi Norma,

    Passion gives us more energy to overcome difficulties and challenges.

    In this IM track, there are going to be ups and downs. Only those fueled by passion will move ahead further.

    Cheers,
    John
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  • Profile picture of the author lakshaybehl
    My passion is helping others in achieving whatever they want from life... Now that I have somebody rich enough to take care of my finances, I am just cocentrating on helping people, partnering with them and guiding them to build rock solid businesses online. Of course I get a 20% in profits too... but I do not charge them for consultancy, coaching etc.

    All I really need to know is that they are sincere enough to be following my instructions timely.

    Right now I am working with 4 teams of 4 people each... That is I am helping setup 4 diffrent online marketing funnels.

    But my idea is that the person who is a customer of the products and services these sites offer must get a lot of value and satisfaction! Somehow helping them is a must as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Norma Holt
    How many people have we seen create products that nobody wanted? I'm sure many of those creators were passionate about their topic.
    I'd like to know the product that no one wants. Its a question of the right market and finding the people of like interest.

    Passion gives us more energy to overcome difficulties and challenges.
    I couldn't have said it better, John.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
      Originally Posted by norma View Post

      I'd like to know the product that no one wants. Its a question of the right market and finding the people of like interest.
      Are you serious? You aren't aware of any products that flopped?
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      • Profile picture of the author Norma Holt
        Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood View Post

        Are you serious? You aren't aware of any products that flopped?
        Of course products flop just the same as a half baked cake does if taken from the oven too soon. But Chris we are talking about time tested things. Tin cans is just an example but how long have they been around and what about bottles, shoe polish, even cement. I know people that are making it online selling all these things.

        The main point here is how you market it and to whom.

        Interestingly this week Christies auctioned a few letters. One was written by a twelve year old girl, another when she was about 18 and 2 more later on. They were just single page notes to her sister and auntie, I think, and they fetched thousands of dollars. Do you know why?

        That little girl was Lady Diana who became the Princess of Wales. What made her letters different to say mine at the same age. Fame.

        On the Road Show this week (its its an assessment show for antiques) a card signed by Beatric Potter was valued at some hundreds of dollars. But was more valuable was one signed by Peter Rabbit.

        This week too the National Museum paid a fortune for an old fob watch. It was not in great condition and certainly nothing out of the box - so why the price tag? It was owned by Charles Sturt, one of our early pioneers who died trying to cross the continent. Compared to one I have in the drawer here there is no difference - so why the difference because my watch is not worth that much.

        Today I hear the curator of the Museum state that he had put in a sizable bid on a boomerang. He admitted that they have over 1600 such objects in their collection - so what makes this so valuable? There is a claim that it was once owned by Captain James Cook but this has, apparently, been almost disproved. In fact they now think it was owned by wife, Elizabeth.

        The point is that even what appears to be worthless junk can be sold if the passion is there. Its all about passion, romance, make-believe and presentation. The human mind delves deep to create sacred objects and make even the most mundane look good.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
          I don't disagree with you , but, I would challenge your comment.

          One hungry market that cannot be fed...

          My passion is (or used to be) Formula 1 racing. Maybe not so much nowadays, because it's my day job and that has changed my perspective hugely in the last 12 years.

          I could write forever about it, but there'd be nothing new, or that really wasn't better written by pro motor sport journalists, both off and online.

          Information about the behind the scenes exposure I get daily, in terms of gossip, "clandestine" developments etc. are the real sought after gemstones; that's the only info worth writing about - that millions of enthusiasts would pay for anyway.

          Thing is, I'd be sued until I bled for breach of my ebook-sized contract.

          So, no I could not not write about my primary passion, and about the info that this hungy niche market craves so badly!


          Ian
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          • Profile picture of the author johntanyishin
            Yes, agree with Ian.

            You need to find markets with HUGE demand, combine with your passion. Your job will be your love, if you love what you are doing, I don't think it's working anymore.

            JTYS
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  • Profile picture of the author Terry Hatfield
    Maybe the title of the post should be "know your market before you try and sell them something".

    Sell something you are passionate about, sure. Just make certain that someone, somewhere, is buying it already.

    Terry
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  • Profile picture of the author drmani
    Nice to see someone so passionate about PASSION

    You'll enjoy my 'Passion Manifesto' - I hope.

    http://www.CHDinfo.com/passion.pdf

    All success
    Dr.Mani


    Originally Posted by norma View Post

    Looking at the desperation of some warriors regarding finding a niche to sell or a good product to promote it is obvious that they may not have done enough research into what will drive them to success. This lack of passion requires looking at themselves first.

    It has always been my thing to make your hobby your business and many have succeeded in creating great websites and blogs doing just that. It can be anything, even collecting old tin cans, as long as the passion comes through.

    With your heart in it writing, composing web sites etc. comes easy because things flow out naturally. Once your site follows your heart you know what to do, how you want to market your product, where to go for buyers and how to turn them into clients.

    The client respects you because you display credibility, are honest in your goals, and you offer quality and service rather than someone's else's ideas. Of course you will never not need the WF for learning techniques, and the other things required for generating a good business.

    Good service follows passion and doing the right thing.

    That's my take on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Norma Holt
    Nice to see someone so passionate about PASSION

    You'll enjoy my 'Passion Manifesto' - I hope.
    Dr Mani, Your e-book stirs up the imagination and warms the heart.

    Isn't it passion that drives people to make threads in this forum and to come back time and again to eat the sweet juices that flow from here? Isn't it that passion that Allen claims has made millions of dollars for warriors and him alike?

    Ian why not start an e-book on your formula1 racing passion and do what Dr. Mani has done about his passion.

    Its all part of the game. All it need is eyes to see and the willingness to give out in order to receive. Sure, you have to put yourself out there, take the knocks, learn the ropes, search the forums and ezines for places to post your articles etc. But guaranteed that if you have the passion for what you do success will follow.

    Guaranteed. See I have stuck my neck out.
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