Newbies this is for you......

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This is for all the newbies who may be struggling....and are spending lots of products....

For the longest time I also struggled even though I was buying lots of products from the gurus, and wso's.

Anytime I started to make money, things fell apart and I had to look for a new way.

The times where I have made the most money by far are when I come up with my own ideas and be a little creative.

Now when I come up with a great way to make money there is not a chance I would sell that for anything. I am going to keep that close to my vest and milk it for all I can.

The only time I would consider creating a product that taught my method to sell would be when I had noticed a trend of declining sales and had moved onto something more profitable.

That means I am selling my method because I realize that the lifespan of this method is on the decline and I've decided now is the time to move onto something else and profit from it with my product.

I don't see how this would be any different for anyone else out there who is making money from a method they thought up. (Though I can't speak for others)

By the time you are hearing about a method, you are usually reading an exit strategy, basically a run at one last big payday and they are already trying a new method they though up.

The moment you learn about something, you are already behind the curve on where the real money is being made.

Until you start learning how to think outside the box and get the confidence to test out your own ideas instead of being spoon fed things you will always be hammering it out with the majority on the tail end of the trends.

Maybe you are thinking to yourself " How do I come up with ideas?".

For me I saw how to think creatively by reading all those products and wso's I bought. By joining the war room.....

You look in that war room and you can witness creativity...you can see how people who come up with these ideas think. You absorb enough of that, and you begin to think like that also.

If you are not making money yet....slow down on looking for the method that will make you some temp cash. Go to the war room, dig up your old product purchases and read......

Try to get into the mindset of the person who came up with the method....what did they notice? Why did they notice it while others overlook the same thing?

All those things that seem so simple when revealed, are there hidden in plain site everywhere, in everything. Learn to notice and find these things on your own before all the rest....

Newbies...I hope this helps.

Aaron
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by AaronJones View Post

    The only time I would consider creating a product that taught my method to sell would be when I had noticed a trend of declining sales and had moved onto something more profitable.
    Translation: "Don't ever buy my products. They don't work. That's why I'm selling them."
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    "The Golden Town is the Golden Town no longer. They have sold their pillars for brass and their temples for money, they have made coins out of their golden doors. It is become a dark town full of trouble, there is no ease in its streets, beauty has left it and the old songs are gone." - Lord Dunsany, The Messengers
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    • Profile picture of the author candoit2
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      Translation: "Don't ever buy my products. They don't work. That's why I'm selling them."
      Nice, someone try's a truly open, honest attempt to give helpful advice here and the first post is someone partially quoting and pulling out of context a statement to make fun of them.

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      • Profile picture of the author Darth Executor
        Originally Posted by AaronJones View Post

        Nice, someone try's a truly open, honest attempt to give helpful advice here and the first post is someone partially quoting and pulling out of context a statement to make fun of them.

        Aaron
        It's not pulled out of context, it's pretty much what you said.
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by AaronJones View Post

        Nice, someone try's a truly open, honest attempt to give helpful advice here
        Yeah, it's helpful all right.

        "...I am selling my method because I realize that the lifespan of this method is on the decline and I've decided now is the time to move onto something else and profit from it with my product."

        That's a great roadmap to being a douchebag.
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        "The Golden Town is the Golden Town no longer. They have sold their pillars for brass and their temples for money, they have made coins out of their golden doors. It is become a dark town full of trouble, there is no ease in its streets, beauty has left it and the old songs are gone." - Lord Dunsany, The Messengers
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        • Profile picture of the author candoit2
          Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

          Yeah, it's helpful all right.

          "...I am selling my method because I realize that the lifespan of this method is on the decline and I've decided now is the time to move onto something else and profit from it with my product."

          That's a great roadmap to being a douchebag.

          I simply said " The only time I would consider creating a product that taught my method to sell would be when I had noticed a trend of declining sales and had moved onto something more profitable.

          I never said I was doing this...nor was I telling anyone to do this. If you read the post I was said...."I don't see how this would be any different for anyone else out there who is making money from a method they thought up. (Though I can't speak for others)"

          Then I say " The moment you learn about something, you are already behind the curve on where the real money is being made."

          ..and I encourage people to think up their own methods....

          Now you have never seen me here on this forum or elsewhere selling my methods as I don't do that. I keep them to myself....I shared the reasons why....that have now been twisted and morphed into something else....

          The funny thing is I am just sharing my perspective and experience with others in an attempt to help and contribute to this forum.

          To bad there are elements here who spend their time making sarcastic remarks or trying to make themselves look good at others expenses all in hopes of getting a few thank you's.

          I miss the forum of even one year ago....

          Aaron
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          • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
            Originally Posted by AaronJones View Post

            To bad there are elements here who spend their time making sarcastic remarks or trying to make themselves look good at others expenses all in hopes of getting a few thank you's.
            Aaron, I find it a whole lot more offensive that there are elements here who will say out loud that they would betray the most vulnerable of their fellow IMers for money.

            It doesn't matter whether you do. It just sure as hell looks to me like you said you would.

            If you would cheat people for money, and don't see any reason why anyone wouldn't, how can I trust you? Ever? About anything?
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            "The Golden Town is the Golden Town no longer. They have sold their pillars for brass and their temples for money, they have made coins out of their golden doors. It is become a dark town full of trouble, there is no ease in its streets, beauty has left it and the old songs are gone." - Lord Dunsany, The Messengers
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            • Profile picture of the author candoit2
              Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

              Aaron, I find it a whole lot more offensive that there are elements here who will say out loud that they would betray the most vulnerable of their fellow IMers for money.

              It doesn't matter whether you do. It just sure as hell looks to me like you said you would.

              If you would cheat people for money, and don't see any reason why anyone wouldn't, how can I trust you? Ever? About anything?
              Well you don't know me at all then obviously if you think I would do that. If I would do that I would have the wso section plastered with wso's showing methods.

              I am just saying from my perspective there is no other reason I can think of why someone would give away their secret.

              Now you can paint me as someone who will cheat others for money, but let's then completly overlook the fact I refuse to make these types of products and that I am bringing this subject out into the open....which would be pretty strange for me to do if I am someone doing these things huh?

              If I could go back and word things mayeb a little better I would, but I wouldn't change the message in this post that seems to have been completly missed while this misunderstanding has developed.
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        • Profile picture of the author candoit2
          Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

          Yeah, it's helpful all right.

          "...I am selling my method because I realize that the lifespan of this method is on the decline and I've decided now is the time to move onto something else and profit from it with my product."

          That's a great roadmap to being a douchebag.
          I am obviously speaking hypothetically here, but you are quoting me in the context that I am making a confession LOL. I think most people here can see what I am saying......hopefully.

          Aaron
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          • Profile picture of the author JoshuaG
            The drama!
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    • Profile picture of the author The Dotcom Hippie
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      Translation: "Don't ever buy my products. They don't work. That's why I'm selling them."
      That's the third time in two days you've made me laugh out loud. Not bad, as these last few days have been a little awful for the most part. Good stuff. Nice forum I've, um, happened upon here.
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  • Always entertained when people who have been online a short time have a little self proclaimed success then are ready to teach the "noobs".
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    • Profile picture of the author filmphreak
      Ahhh how nice it is to come back to the forum after being away from it for years... Not much has change. Boy have I missed it here!
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    • Profile picture of the author candoit2
      Originally Posted by InternetMarketingIQ View Post

      Always entertained when people who have been online a short time have a little self proclaimed success then are ready to teach the "noobs".

      Lot's of people don't tout their own horn and brag about each and every sale they make on the main forum, or sell their method to others. I didn't realize my failure to do so means I have nothing to contribute.
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  • Profile picture of the author Darth Executor
    Anyway, to be fair to the OP he does have a bit of a point. A lot of people do follow strategies to the letter that other newbies also follow to the letter and nobody makes any money because the same unmodified site that came with the guru's package is set up by 10-20 people. Much better to learn the concept behind a certain business model then do your own original research/writing/design (or hire someone to do it for you).
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  • Profile picture of the author Todd-O
    Thanks for the post ! I t really made me stop and think. It's so easy to get addicted to buying the next best WSO. Makes me think of that book "Think and Grow Rich".
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  • Profile picture of the author Gclunis
    Jeez, whether or not Aaron is confessing of scamming people with his WSO's shouldn't matter. It was not the point of the post. The point was to inform newbies about the reason that following those so called guaranteed money makers doesn't work. He is simply advising them to learn to be creative which is a necessary skill in any form of business. There is no reason to attack him based on anything else that was said in the post because it isn't the main topic at hand.
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  • Profile picture of the author netmarketer21
    I think the message the OP was trying to convey is to try to be a little creative every once in a while in our IM strategies.
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