Do you still work or go to school?

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I was wondering for those of you who are successful marketers or partially successful marketers, if any of you are also still working your day (or night) job because you like your job and you are using IM as extra income or whatever. Also, are there any of you who may have never gotten to go to college or finish college, plan on completing that degree for yourself or because you wanted to do a different career and being a successful IM allowed you that time and money to do so.

I like to hear the different stories of when people become successful at what they do what it took to get there and what their future plans are. Don't mean to be nosy; just call it a motivation for me.
#school #work
  • Profile picture of the author RMC
    I have been full time online, and part time college for several years now.

    I'm also excited to say, that by the end of summer '10 I'll have an accounting degree with a minor in marketing.

    I wanted to learn more about offline business, business law, and the financial side of things. Also manufacturing is an entirely different animal than business online and you learn a lot about it with an accounting degree. The marketing minor was a no-brainer option since I already have done a lot of online marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Murdaugh
    Nope.

    I don't work for anyone else and I never graduated from college, but did attend.

    I have no plans on ever going back to school. Even though I don't have a degree I'm well educated, I did go to school for awhile, both after graduating High School and in the Air Force.

    I'm a big believer in self-education. I've learned more about marketing and copywriting from books and courses than I'd ever learn in school.

    Seriously, if there's a professor teaching marketing or copywriting at a college, chances are he's not good at it, because if he was he'd be making a fortune doing it instead of teaching it.

    I don't knock anyone who goes to school, it's just not for me.

    A quote I like by Hopkins from The Gary Halbert Letter

    Many years ago, Claude Hopkins (the greatest ad man who ever lived) was asked to critique and offer suggestions on how to improve some college textbooks on advertising. His suggestion?

    "Burn Them!"

    Truly. Claude further went on to say that the "educators" involved had no right to impose such erroneous BS on a group of naive students, that it would take years of front-line experience to "deprogram" the students and free them up from all that garbage.
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    • Profile picture of the author Darth Executor
      Originally Posted by Scott Murdaugh View Post

      Seriously, if there's a professor teaching marketing or copywriting at a college, chances are he's not good at it, because if he was he'd be making a fortune doing it instead of teaching it.
      Some people aren't interested in making fortunes and would much rather spend their time teaching the next generation and helping people in general.

      That said, college teachers for me were hit or miss. I had the privilege of having excellent teachers in high school. Every single one was helpful and genuinely cared about their students. College was a shock to me. I estimate that about half my teachers were decent people who knew how to do their job and the other half were a bunch of *** ****s who either couldn't teach or didn't know what they were teaching. Kinda funny really. One of them bordered on full blown psycho. He would call us all idiots, tell us not to be afraid to ask questions, and when someone asked a question he'd blow up at him, all but outright calling him a moron.

      I agree that if you have the discipline to teach yourself and if you plan on being self employed, school is a bad idea. But most people don't really have a choice. Not to mention that some fields pretty much require school if you want a good education (science for example, access to a university's labs and equipment in particular is well worth the price).
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  • Profile picture of the author thejjones
    I've stopped going to school because the colleges I attended were too much like the high school I graduated from... After which, I traveled through 15 different countries on 2 different continents, and changed my world perspective completely! With that being said, I didn't have a whole lot of ambition to return to the similar "high-school" setting, although I admit I've never been to a University.

    Ultimately, I do plan to return to school to attend the School of the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston because I know there's more to be learned there than in any online webinar, or any blog or paid membership website... Besides, it's a whole different field of study.

    Finally, with my understanding of marketing and the arts I want to use my knowledge to help other people overcome their fears and live a creative lifestyle, much like the life of a successful entrepreneur, in whatever walk of life you're interested in...
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  • Profile picture of the author Susanna Dodd
    See I asked this because I'm considering going back to college just to say I did and get a degree. But I don't want to go in a classroom; would rather do it online. I did go to college after high school for a couple of years and majored in music which is really not what I wanted to do. I really like IM an Business, but I also like the administrative side of the medical field. But if I become successful in IM without going to college, would going back be a waste of time? Because isn't the whole purpose of getting a college degree to better yourself and get a good paying job? Or is it for self satisfaction? Opinions?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by Susanna Dodd View Post

      See I asked this because I'm considering going back to college just to say I did and get a degree. But I don't want to go in a classroom; would rather do it online. I did go to college after high school for a couple of years and majored in music which is really not what I wanted to do. I really like IM an Business, but I also like the administrative side of the medical field. But if I become successful in IM without going to college, would going back be a waste of time? Because isn't the whole purpose of getting a college degree to better yourself and get a good paying job? Or is it for self satisfaction? Opinions?
      Ha, I majored in Dance and took a break after 3 years and never finished. I began to picture my life after school, and it was not the direction I really wanted to go for long term.

      I considered going back a couple of times for different things, but found if I needed particular knowledge on something I just took that and ran with it - IE continuing education to learn quick photoshop in a weekend.

      It is funny that society puts such a weight on a college degree - and I guess it is a good thing for most companies to know they are getting someone with some staying power who will stick to things.

      If you are planning to seriously run your own business, then it's up to you how much education you need and how important that piece of paper is to you. If you are doubting your ability to run your own online business and feel you will need to return to the work force and think it might help then do go on.

      If I look for courses, they are to teach me something specific and they are for ME and I don't mind paying for them. But I see no reason to go full boar and take classes I really have no interest in - because I don't learn that way. I have to really like what I am learning or it just goes in one ear and out the other.

      My brother recently has been nagging me that I need to take some business courses to cover my arse on some things. I might take one or 2 classes and play it by ear. But getting "credits" is not what is important to me. If I do it, it is to learn things that will enhance me for the direction I am going in. I can always buddy up with someone to take care of what I don't want to really deal with.
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  • Profile picture of the author petelta
    I currently work full time. I have started to make a decent amount of money online but I am jsut recently getting out of a quite a long rough patch. so Im being careful when it comes to giving up my full time job. I made a goal to make at least 50k/year from Im before I even consider dropping my fulltime job. Im sure I could get there quicker if I just went full time IM, but the was unemployed for nearly 11 months barely making it pay check to paycheck. I am taking as many precautions as possible not to get to that point again.

    Right now the 2 incomes are only helping my savings...hurting my stress levels, but that will change soon.
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