Nobody wants to be a guru, but everybody wants to be a guru

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When someone says that they don't want to be a Guru and are happy just making $X amount per year, do you believe them?

You hear people say that they're happy making the income they make in one post and then the next post is about how they're working extra hard to grow their business.

I think that's the biggest load of crap perpetuated on this forum by so called honest marketers. The truth is, everyone would like to be a millionaire and if they had the chance to be a "GURU" they would jump on that ship like it's Noah's Ark.

I used to say I'd be happy when I got to $5,000 per month, then it was $10,000, and then $20,000. I can tell you from experience, once you reach these milestones you'll find that it's not enough. You'll start to see that you can make millions in this business and missing out on that opportunity would be crazy.

Folks, there is no limit on what you can make doing Internet Marketing, so why place a limit on yourself?

Shoot for the stars and if you fall, at least you'll land on a cloud.
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  • Well Ron, I guess this is just one area where we'll have to respectfully
    disagree.

    I am happy with what I make.

    I can't take it with me and since I am not a spender, what am I going to do
    with it.

    Yes, I work to grow my business. But actually, I work to keep it from going
    under.

    While I don't need to be rich, poverty is not an attractive thing either. If
    I have no money at all then I can't keep my health up.

    But do I need millions? Not at all and quite honestly, do not believe I
    would be any happier if I had them.

    But you're welcome to prove me wrong my donating me a few mil if you
    like.
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    • because Gurus can make easy and sleazy money. What worse than marketing trash to wannabe newbie IM and fleecing them.
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    • Hey Steve,

      and I too, respectfully have to disagree with you too

      the people I know who have said, money doesn't make you happy are people who do not, or have had it.

      Simply put money = Freedom, nothing more nothing less. Not just for you, but for your family and many others.

      Steve, have you had a spare Mill? If not, then you most likely are not in a position to state what you would or would not feel like

      The OP started this thread, with an enlightening post.

      Your post took away from it, thus my post.

      Seriously.. would you prefer one or all of your products turn over 100k per year ? or 7 figures per year?

      Cheers

      Pete
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  • Why wouldn't one want to become a "guru"?

    If your selling products/information/services online, then why wouldn't you want to be a leader in your field? Don't you want to be the one with the expertise and knowledge in your field?

    Being a guru, doesn't mean your making millions. It just means you have expertise or knowledge in that niche. They key is knowing how to use your expertise and knowlege to make money with it.

    Not everyone cares about making a million dollars a year and sometimes, its not always all about money...
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    • The OP might be confusing the 2, because you don't have to be a guru to make money and a guru can also be broke.
    • Ron,

      Interesting post Ron. You're bringing up two things here now - becoming a guru and making lots of money.

      Gurus lead the industry and come up with launch after launch. They're certainly interesting to watch but they often deal with unwanted fame (So and So Marketer SCAM? Google Adwords ad for example), criticism and accountability because the market expects them to be good or almost perfect in things they do.

      Then you have ones make great money, but not interested in becoming all that famous -- I believe them. In fact, I think many people prefer being on this list. But they are not Gurus.

      There are also "mini" Gurus -- they're gurus in small domains where nobody else has dominated. These are the smart ones. They give up majority of the market, yet because of that laser focused approach, they become respected brands.

      Subaru did this back in the mid 90's. When I was growing up in Japan, driving Subaru sedan meant, you quite weren't able to afford Toyota, Nissan and Honda. The brand suffered and even stayed "mediocre" as long as they chose to compete in that mainstream market.

      Then in the mid 90's, they GAVE UP that sedan market, and just focused on All Wheel Drive. Today nobody builds better AWD vehicles than Subaru.

      Subaru became the Guru in very small domain where nobody else dominated (AWD Market), while giving up majority of the mainstream market and focusing on their strengths.
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    • I agree. Status does not always = income.

      Not all millionaires are gurus and not all gurus are millionaires.

      I think I would just be happy with enough money for my wife and I and our three daughters to relax comfortable and enjoy life.

      Getting there.
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  • Guru has become a derogatory term and not something
    that I'd like to be labelled as. I much prefer to be seen
    as an expert and influencer in my chosen niche markets.

    John
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    • Yeah, I agree the "guru" label is getting a bad rap. A guru is an expert though, so in reality if you're the expert, then you could be considered a guru...
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    • I agree.

      Most people want more money (why wouldn't you) but not everyone wants to be a 'Guru' since it's often associated with people who make their money selling make money info to newbies.

      I make great money and have a nice life, but I also like helping people - I have no interest in being a 'Guru', but more money - yes please.

      Ron, maybe you would jump on the Guru ship - but some of us are just happy making good money and doing things our own way.

      It's a personal choice and we're all different.

      I'm sure there are people like you're talking about but we're not all like that.
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  • If you were a guru you would have such a huge exposure . . . think of all the people you could help learn to make a living doing internet marketing.

    It is exciting just the possibility.

    Terry
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    • I think it is somehow link to human nature. Human beings would always want to aim for something higher, better...

      Let's say he is aiming for a normal Toyota car for his first car. When he got it and may be satisfied for the first 2 years, then he wanted a change . He wants a Lexus now.

      The cycle repeats after he got his Lexus.

      I feel it is how we humans develope ourselves into better beings. Aim for the stars...aim for somewhere beyond where you are at now.

      My 2 cents,
      John
  • My business turnover in the financial year 1999/2000 was £1,000,183
    With the current exchange rate, that's a little short of $2m.

    I worked away from home quite a lot, but while I was at home I worked
    around 30 hours per week. Overall, I guess I was working about 44 hours
    per week on average.

    Of course, I didn't do that all on my own, I employed a few full time staff
    and I had a team of freelance specialists who I pulled into work on specific
    projects.

    Although I was recognised as an expert within my field, I certainly wasn't
    seen as a guru.

    I can tell you from experience that financial success and gurudom are not
    directly connected. You can earn lots of money without being a guru and I
    know a lot of people who are seen as gurus and yet they live from hand to
    mouth.

    When you run your own business, you have the power to make choices
    about how you spend your time, how you structure your workload and how
    you brand youself in the market place.

    The point is that it's up to you to make the choices that suit you and your
    individual circumstances.

    I've chosen to downsize from seven figures to six figures, I've chosen a
    different business model and my personal circumstances have changed
    considerably since 2000.

    John
  • Ron said "I'd choose to make a million dollars per year for like 3 years instead of working 3-4 hours per day for the next 30 years."

    Fascinating viewpoints by both Ron & Steven.

    Personally, my financial thermostat must have been pre-set to hit the wall at low six figures. I know I can grow my biz bigger, faster, etc., but can't seem to give up sleeping til noon when I want to, spending quality time with friends and family, Broadway shows, concerts, fine dining and lots of vacations while I'm still young enough to enjoy.

    No one in my family ever hit even this level of success or lifestyle quality.

    But lately, as I'm just over a year away from 50, I'm starting to shift away from Steven's attitude and more towards Ron's.

    I figure if I have just one or two killer years, I could net out as much as I've been able to save from the past 30 years. It's been said that the first million is the hardest, so shouldn't the ones after that be super easy and fast?

    If only I can figure out how to do that in 30 hrs. per week and not make myself sick from stress of more employees, risk, resposibilities, etc.

    Hmmm. I'm right there in the middle between greed and gratitude.

    Captain Lou (the Cruise "Guru"?)
  • This week I had the pleasure of spending an hour on the phone with Mark Joyner.

    For me, Mark's an undisputed IM guru. I have no clue how much he's earning these days.

    For me it's about innovation, knowledge, experience and the ability to inspire.

    Cheers,

    Neil
  • Ron: I think that what you're describing is just the natural process of setting goals. We set an objective for ourselves, meet it, and then set another objective. When we're still working on the first one, it seems like the absolute pinnacle of achievement. But once we're atop that peak, we see the higher ground we have yet to reach.

    But I make no illusions! I know that the heights are infinitely higher than what I know now and even though I'm just starting out, I know that I'll get the hang of Internet Marketing and that the life I will be leading in just a few years will be nothing at all like the life I'm living right now.

    And I can't wait!!
  • i agree with you.

    I see it all the time. But I know they just have to
    expand their mind.

    anyone who says they will be happy just making 5k a month online
    probably isn't making making jack shit.

    @All this nonsense about having to work 60-70 hours a week to
    make big money is nothing more than self limiting beliefs.

    i was at a park in lakewood chilling with a fine girl working
    on my business from my laptop courtesy of At & T wireless.

    You can make a million a month doing once you have the
    systems and outsourcing in place.

    I dont even see why someone would put in 60 hours a week
    on an online business unless they personally Wanted to.

    @the guy that says he wakes up at noon so he can't get
    to that pennacle. You need to wake your mind up and realize
    that doesn't have anything to do with it. I don't think I've
    gotten up before 10am in a long time.

    I use to get up at 3:30am to be at work at 5:00am. I
    now cherrrish my sleep.

    Daniel
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    • My whole thing is I want to make as much money as possible
      while helping as many people as possible simultaneously.

      If, in the process, someone calls me a Guru, so be it.

      I'm not going to actively seek any accolades from anyone. Never have, never will.

      I could care less what ANYBODY calls me or thinks about me.

      Especially those that DON'T truly know me.

      I'll let my actions and the way I run my business speak for themself.

      I remember hearing this expression from a very successful man named Rex Renfrow.

      He said:

      "What you do speaks so loud, I can't hear what you're saying."

      Profound, ay?

      Jason
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  • There's a difference between wanting to make lots of money and wanting to be a celebrity. Celebrity is really what you mean here when you say "guru" since that is what IM gurus have in common with each other.

    Some people make lots of money quietly, and you haven't heard of them because they don't promote themselves.

    Some people love being famous, having their name dropped all over, speaking at lots of events... and some would rather be more private.

    Either of those is fine.
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    • If you think about gurus offline most of them are not rich.

      But online, you have those who make claims that they are a guru, normally because they want to have the attention, and hope that their income will change with the status. Those who are self proclaimed gurus online might say they have no interest in getting more income, but they are interested in the status symbol, having their ego boasted when all the newbies say how wonderful they are, and they know deep down, they are not anywhere near the guru status.

      What a person earns has nothing to do with being a guru, does being someone in the rich list automatically make them a guru, because they have wealth? Normally not.

      But when people want a following in IM, they call themselves a guru, and the herd believes them.
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  • I don't wanna on a cloud..
    I'll be on the sky..
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  • What I have learned is that most of these moralizing people are just full of B.S. putting on a show. Don't fall for it

    Fabian
  • good point Ron!
    I like what you say about shooting for the stars
    sounds good
  • You are absolutely right, but sometimes people have high expectations for themselves
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