by Joni
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I new to the whole SEO deal and was wondering , when optimizing my site in lets say the title of an article or anything for that matter I know im supposed to get my keyword phrase in there.

Now my question is, lets say my keyword is "fresh grass"
Would it be fine to put the title as "fresh green grass"
and would a long title like "how to cut your fresh grass" or "how to cut fresh green grass" do just as good as the keyword phrase "fresh grass"

I guess the question looks a bit confusing but im hoping you understand what im asking here.

Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author ahref
    I dont think writing "how to cut your fresh grass" is good, use fresh green grass plus some other keywords in title.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joni
      Originally Posted by ahref View Post

      I dont think writing "how to cut your fresh grass" is good, use fresh green grass plus some other keywords in title.
      my question was if my title is how to cut fresh grass , and fresh grass being the keyword phrase im targeting, would that be the same amount of optimization as making a title just called Fresh Grass?
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      • Profile picture of the author lavidaloca
        No, the optimization will not be the same. The earlier your keyword is in your title and description, the higher it's value.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    Personaly, I would just try to make sure your phrase contained 'fresh grass' in it somewhere (in that order).. I wouldn't split it up.
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  • Profile picture of the author kevinw1
    Don't split up your keyword phrase - it needs to be together in the same word order to give you the best result. Having it earlier in the title is also helpful. But it's fine to add words to it.

    So you might use:

    Fresh Grass Cutting Tips and Tricks
    Fresh Grass: Your Guide to growing, Cutting and Maintaining it
    Fresh Grass IS Easier Than You Think!

    etc
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    I disagree with all the responses...IMO, it's "all of the above".

    If you want to get as much traffic as possible, you want as much content as possible, and to optimize for as many keywords/phrases as possible.

    Every page you create is another opportunity to get traffic from people that typed in their search queries differently.

    Figure out how to create tons of relevant, decent-to-good content pages, mixing up your keywords/phrases, get links, and you'll be well on your way to great SEO.

    The honest truth about SEO is really learning how to create tons of content, using solid keyword research and linking.
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    • Profile picture of the author NeelsTheron
      I'd say don't break up the keyword phrase, keep it as close to the beginning as possible, and don't forget that getting a good listing is only part of the problem: make the title enticing to click on if it appears in the SE
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    PS: Do a search for green grass and see if the advice above holds true:
    fresh grass - Google Search


    From this list of results, I suggest following my strategies, which is to mix it up...
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    The keywords need to be together.

    But the title also needs to be enticing.

    At the heart of SEO, is the visitor. You want them to click on your title. How many people are going to click on "fresh cut grass" on Google? Seriously? Maybe if you're #1 you'll get clicks. But people are reading out there. I'll click on a #3 result that says " Fresh Grass: Your Guide to growing, Cutting and Maintaining it" (per Kevin above) before I click on a barren "fresh cut grass" title any day.

    When I write titles, I keep the keywords together, but I also think about enticing that click as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    kurt - her question was regarding a single page (or article), so I answered as such Of course, taking LSI into consideration, as many relevant variations of the topic would be great
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  • Profile picture of the author kevinw1
    Right - I was answering the OP question specifically about using a keyword phrase in the title. Of course you want to have lots of related phrases in the page content as well.
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