My computer crashed! What's the best laptop to buy?

cypherslock

14 years ago

Take a look at the HP DV line. I've got a 13" that does everything I need and HP is an excellent brand.

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Floyd Fisher

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cypherslock

Take a look at the HP DV line. I've got a 13" that does everything I need and HP is an excellent brand.

I got a DV7, and they have two problems:

1. I cannot see the characters on the keys due to them being silver in color!

2. There is a defect where the keyboard puts scratches in the screen when the laptop lid is closed (it's all over HP's support boards, and they refused to do anything about it).

You can get similar laptops from Gateway (without the inherent problems I outlined above) for tons less. If I had it to do over, I would have gone with them instead.

Also, stay far away from any laptop with Nvidia graphics chips. For some reason Nvidia sent out a ton of defective ones, and I can't guarantee you won't get a defective one and be sorry about a year later.

That's my advice. Keep me informed as to what you do.

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Vagabond 007

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher

I got a DV7, and they have two problems:

Also, stay far away from any laptop with Nvidia graphics chips. For some reason Nvidia sent out a ton of defective ones, and I can't guarantee you won't get a defective one and be sorry about a year later.

I have an HP DV9300 series. Paid $1,800 for it. It's a piece of junk. One of the screws holding the casing on popped out. Which then led to the casing around the screen breaking. Then the hinge broke which didn't allow me to close the laptop properly.

My brother-in-law had the SAME EXACT problem with his as well.

After some hassle, HP fixed it for free. But, it happened again.

And then there is the video card problem you spoke about. I am a victim of that. One day I got a BSOD. There is a HUGE thread on the HP forums about this issue. As far as I now, HP refuses to do anything about it. If you want it fixed by them they charge you over $400. And they just install another defective card. So it will just happen again!

Other than that, I love it!! :rolleyes:

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Vagabond 007 14 years ago

Sort of on topic...

I have a PC (Vista) and when I install updates and then it restarts, I get a message saying updates were installed and then when I click on the X button to close the window I get another popup saying new updates are ready to be installed?!?!?!

WTF?! I just installed updates!
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dirtmaster

14 years ago

i have a Dell, and personal i love it

the customer service is great which is a huge bonus! not that i have need back up support (fingers crossed) lol

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Dr Dan

14 years ago

go with a macbook pro and you will save hundreds of hours of time. Because you wont be updating everyday and trying to clean the damn thing from all the spyware etc. I have been on my mac for 2 years now and I wont ever change. I do use parallels to run a couple IM programs still and it works flawlessly on my mac.

Macs cost more but you will save so much time and energy having a mac.

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XFactor

14 years ago

Originally Posted by rockstarinlife

go with a macbook pro and you will save hundreds of hours of time. Because you wont be updating everyday and trying to clean the damn thing from all the spyware etc. I have been on my mac for 2 years now and I wont ever change. I do use parallels to run a couple IM programs still and it works flawlessly on my mac.

Macs cost more but you will save so much time and energy having a mac.

Ditto - We have 3 MacBook Pros in our household.

17" for me, 17" for my wife, and 13" for my 11 year old

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Chris Lagarde

14 years ago

Lenovo T series line. Incredibly durable laptops. Usually cost $300 more than a comparable HP or Dell, but when you think of the hassle of not having your laptop for any period of time, it's worth it.

Do a search on RetailMeNot.com for a coupon. Sometimes you can save $200 - $300.

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Scott Henderson

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Lagarde

Lenovo T series line. Incredibly durable laptops. Usually cost $300 more than a comparable HP or Dell, but when you think of the hassle of not having your laptop for any period of time, it's worth it.

Do a search on RetailMeNot.com for a coupon. Sometimes you can save $200 - $300.

Ditto, I have had Toshiba's and Dells in the past. My Lenovo T-500 is the best one to date. Very robust and fast. Great customer service. Yes they do cost more, but I make my living online and don't mind spending a little more to get the quality in the product that I am using now.

Another excellent feature is that they do not come loaded with a bunch of junk software and trial crap. You get it with the OS and that is it.

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tuesdayblue

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Lee

Hi guys,

My computer recently crashed and I lost some data. I haven't backed up for quite some time. Now it seems unlikely it will ever get fixed.

So I'm planning to buy a new laptop, and was wondering if you guys have any tips or advice on which is the best one to buy (and which ones to avoid)?

Thanks a lot,
Michael

LOL... what are you using now to type into the warrior forum?
I have PC and Mac... I LOVE my mac... the only thing I dont like is the Mac prejudice, everything that is sold seems to be just for PC's.
My Mac mini is small, but mighty.... no crashing and no irritation like I have with my PC.
You can get a refurb at the Apple Store.

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Christian Sawyer 14 years ago

I am glad to say that I have had over 10 PC's and have not had a single one crash on me. Don't let the people who say you will waste time with spyware hinder your decision. If you are looking for performance, PC is the way to go. If you like flashy stuff on your desktop, go with a Mac. However, a PC will outperform a Mac, guaranteed.

If you choose the PC route, I would go with a Dell or a HP. Both are great!

Most computers come with free anti-virus software, so you won't have to worry.

Good luck!

-Christian
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Adam Carn

14 years ago

Originally Posted by tuesdayblue

LOL... what are you using now to type into the warrior forum?
I have PC and Mac... I LOVE my mac... the only thing I dont like is the Mac prejudice, everything that is sold seems to be just for PC's.
My Mac mini is small, but mighty.... no crashing and no irritation like I have with my PC.
You can get a refurb at the Apple Store.

Get a erm, what was that again...? Ah never mind, nice avatar by the way

(needed an excuse to say that!).

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Adam

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Dr Dan

14 years ago

It is true that most "PC" computers come with free anti-virus. But macs dont for a reason. ;-)

Their is a clue there...

This made me remember the "Hi im a PC, but made on a Mac?" campaign not too long ago.

Microsoft PC ads 'made on Mac' shock - Techworld.com

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j2200 14 years ago

My dad was a computer programmer growing up, and if you truly want to bypass the average problems most people have with their laptops/computers, the first thing I can tell you is to avoid the big, commercial (and typically "cheap") brands:
Dell
HP
Gateway
E-machine

These brands make an average computer. You will, however, have average problems with them also! I told my boss not to use Dell for our office network, but he went ahead and installed Dells (each computer cost upwards of $4000) and we've had tech issues daily. He thought that if he bought a more expensive Dell, he'd avoid the problems everyone has with them. Not so!
If you want one that's of the standard that IT techs, software programmers, and hard-core computer users, my first recommendation would be ASUS. They usually run pretty expensive, but I recently bought a $450 laptop with an incredibly fast processor, lots of memory, free upgrades, fully loaded. My second recommendation would be Acer (although a full sized laptop is tough to find in the U.S.), then Sony Vaio, then IBM (Lenovo).
**The trick to avoiding PC crashes, spyware, system slowdowns, etc. is first to avoid the "cheap" commercial brands, and secondly, use an amazing anti-virus (of which there are very few! Most actually potentiate the problem). I've been using Kaspersky Internet Security (anti-spyware, anti-malware, anti-virus, firewall) which catches everything without crashing, confusing, or freezing my system. The computer I've had now (the ASUS) has not malfunctioned once in the past year, and I keep it running 24/7, it's loaded with programs, and is my main work computer. I also use it to view "dangerous" sites and it warns me and removes trojans so I can continue viewing the site. Avoid the free anti-virus/anti-spyware programs that come with the computer - they'll miss 60% of viruses and trojans, and will cause system operating errors. Especially Windows Defender - I always uninstall it first thing when I buy a new PC.

Macs are awesome; but they're not compatible with every site out there, and you have to constantly put hundreds of dollars worth of software in them to remain compatible with systems that Windows uses (especially if you're trying to share Excel files, run project sharing programs, etc.)... but they are free of viruses and very quick and easy to use. If money's not an issue, I'd go with a MacBook Pro. Be aware, also, though, that you will have to buy a new one every 3-5 years; they stop allowing you to "upgrade" software after that time, in order to generate more computer sales. If you don't buy a new one, you won't be able to easily continue to share info, surf the net, produce documents, etc.
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Aljiro

14 years ago

AlienWare! (Kidding unless you are actually a gamer)

Macs are great IMHO but greater is their price tag. When you do go MAC be sure to invest in a virtualization box so you can run Windows and work with windowsy stuff

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JeffMitchell 14 years ago

Just bought a Gateway NV52 at best buy 2 weeks ago, works great. My favorite is the webcam...takes great video. Only around $500 (add the options and it totalled me $722 but I love it.

Good luck in your search.

Jeff Mitchell

P.s My next move is a Mac...Just waiting on some Prejudice to be gone.
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spyxx

14 years ago

I really hate macs. But I have to admit they are like the toughest one that I ever had. Mine last for almost 3 years before its completely give up on me. Other brands only last around a year before they start having problems. Don't use this to make your decision. I am very abusive when it comes to using a computer, well do think most of us here does.

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MorpheusMirror

14 years ago

A MacBook Pro with Virtual Box installed so you can run any other OS as well.

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Dr Dan

14 years ago

I dont want to sound like a broken record... Get a MAC and you will NEVER go back! lol..

But seriously, you can run just about any program with a virtual box or parallels etc on your mac. But yes, if you are a serious gamer then go with a PC.

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Jayson L

14 years ago

There are so many things to consider. If your mainly surfing the web and stuff like that then your pretty open with options. I have a Dell at work and two HP's at home. I don't have problems with any of them. The one HP is 5 years old. I rebooted it back to how it was new recently and it is extremely fast. Save your files and other stuff on an external hard drive and you will have less risk of losing everything. People that are always having problems with their computer aren't using them correctly must be. I use AVG for an antivirus program and it's free. I think some people could even break a MAC

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danalingga

14 years ago

I suggest compaq, i have good experience with it.

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genei

14 years ago

I can't recommend Dell laptops. I know of 3 that we have had either motherboard problems, or hard drive crashes. I ahve a Sony Vaio that has worked great for over 4 years now.

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cypherslock

14 years ago

Go to the store. Play with BOTH. And see which fits the way you want to work. That being said, you can run both mac and windows (no 7 official support in Bootcamp yet as told to me by an authorized dealer), but do you really want to have to remember which key to hold down to get to Windows to run the majority of your marketing/research software?

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avani

14 years ago

Lenovo/Thinkpad for me - the keyboard is awesome!

Since I tend to a lot of typing, it's absolutely crucial that I'm comfortable with the keyboard - it's amazing how much of a difference this can make! I don't get along with the Sony Viao series largely because my fingers don't get along with their keyboard design.

By the way, this is off-topic - but since you mention dataloss, you should really consider one of the online file hosting services (dropbox, sugarsync, wuala) that not only bakcup your data for a nominal cost ($25/year for 10GB is a typical estimate), but keep file revisions for you so can rollback changes, and keeps data in sync across devices (even if one of them is an iphone)! Could make a vast difference, do consider it

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axelhanes

14 years ago

Hi Michael,
Very sad to heard about you lost your data and also that your pc got crashed...
Now if you are looking forward for a new laptop then i will refer you dell laptop because i am using it since last 3 months it's performance was really pretty then other...

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customertools

14 years ago

I've got a Dell (never going to do that again, and I used to tell everyone to get a Dell for there support), HP, Fujitsu, Gateway, and IBM Thinkpad.

Dell 2 out 5 stars
HP 4 out of 5
Fujitsu 3 out of 5
Gateway 2.5 out of 5
IBM Thinkpad 3 out of 5

Dell's (They bought out AlienWARE

) technical support has severely gone down hill. They will sell you a docking station with your computer that is not Win7 compatible, and wont do anything about it, blaming it on the manufacture of the docking station.
HP/Compaq same company, same computer different shell.

IBM/Toshiba same company manufactures the computers(or they used to), they are ok quality

Fujitsu Lifebooks have great looking screens, but atleat the model I have its real easy
to break the screen if you travel with it.

I use my HP the most.. The one bad thing about them, is you can see the wear on the casing if you use it a LOT.

I've never owned a Mac before, but I've got a friend with a MacBook Pro which ran windows under parallels more stability than my PC.

I'm probably going to go with a Mac next time.

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GlengarryLeads

14 years ago

Michael,

You want a laptop that will do everything and be everything, or something that is just good for simple web work?

A lot of people like Macbook Pro's, I've heard more than a couple IM guys using them. Personally I'm a windows person though and work almost exclusively on a desktop, so that is my powerhouse

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hghreviews

14 years ago

For the past 10 years I'm using a PC / windows based PC and Notebook. But this year I decided to buy Mac! I love Mac and so far it's fun and easy, no worries for viruses and you still can run windows on it.