How much should we "rewrite" articles to avoid copyright infringement?

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I have discovered some amazing topics which have huge audience but there are no websites/blogs. But there are a lot of offline magazines publishing information about it.

I am planning to use those magazines for content creation. If I take content from these magazines, to what % should I rewrite it to keep my nose clean?
#articles #avoid #copyright #infringement #rewrite
  • Profile picture of the author adamv
    You should not simply "rewrite" someone else's content. It's okay to use the magazines to get ideas for your content but changing the wording around a bit does not make it your own.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    It is illegal to take someone elses content and publish it .. Research is looking up a topic and reading and learning about that topic. Then sitting down and write in your own words from what you have learned...

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    • Profile picture of the author arttse
      So in other words...

      plagarism is copying from ONE article...whereas research is copying from MULTIPLE articles.

      lol
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by arttse View Post

        So in other words...

        plagarism is copying from ONE article...whereas research is copying from MULTIPLE articles.

        lol
        No you do not copy nothing ... And articles are not designed to be used for research, this is what many do at EZA .. Go read and copy someone elses article because some stupid ebook that some wannabe sold told them to do it.

        Research is when you use many different forms such as online libraries, online news, and etc...

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      • Profile picture of the author peter_act
        Plagiarism is copying content word for word.

        Research is copying content word for word from many sources, but always attributing the source.

        I do a total rewrite of an article so that even the author of the original article wouldn't recognise it.
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        • Profile picture of the author adamv
          I got the following definition from dictionary.reference.com

          pla⋅gia⋅rism

           /ˈpleɪdʒəˌrɪzəm, -dʒiəˌrɪz-/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [pley-juh-riz-uhm, -jee-uh-riz-] Show IPA-noun

          1. the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work.

          According to this definition plagiarism does not have to be word for word.
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          • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
            Originally Posted by adamv View Post

            I got the following definition from dictionary.reference.com

            pla⋅gia⋅rism

             /ˈpleɪdʒəˌrɪzəm, -dʒiəˌrɪz-/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [pley-juh-riz-uhm, -jee-uh-riz-] Show IPA-noun

            1. the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work.

            According to this definition plagiarism does not have to be word for word.
            If people would only use their mind to actually do some work... I sometimes wonder how some of these people even make blog post, forum post, and etc.

            Oh I know what they do ... "Hey let me google it for the answer to this post and copy and paste it and change a word or 2" ...

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            • Profile picture of the author adamv
              I posted that definition in response to peter_act who said plagiarism was copying something word for word.
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              • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                Originally Posted by adamv View Post

                I posted that definition in response to peter_act who said plagiarism was copying something word for word.
                I know Adam, sorry that was not a crack at you but a crack at those that think they can just grab articles up and reword them ..

                James
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                • Profile picture of the author adamv
                  Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

                  I know Adam, sorry that was not a crack at you but a crack at those that think they can just grab articles up and reword them ..

                  James
                  No worries. I was a little confused and not 100% sure either way. If you were in agreement with me or taking a shot.

                  I wanted to post that definition though because a lot of people believe that plagiarism is a word for word copy when in fact you can change all of the words but if all you do is replace words with synonyms it's still illegal.

                  I actually find it easier to write an original article than trying to rework one article to seem original anyway. If I ever get the urge to rewrite one of my own articles I usually just end up writing a fresh one.
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                  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                    Originally Posted by adamv View Post

                    No worries. I was a little confused and not 100% sure either way. If you were in agreement with me or taking a shot.

                    I wanted to post that definition though because a lot of people believe that plagiarism is a word for word copy when in fact you can change all of the words but if all you do is replace words with synonyms it's still illegal.

                    I actually find it easier to write an original article than trying to rework one article to seem original anyway. If I ever get the urge to rewrite one of my own articles I usually just end up writing a fresh one.
                    Oh yeah I was in agreement with you ... lol

                    @Paul Myers - Fully agree .. Seems many need to get a clue. It seems we got a large rash of people (more than normal) that last 6 months or so that have been taught to take someone elses work and rewrite it and that is how you write articles..

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            • Profile picture of the author Joanne Reid
              Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

              If people would only use their mind to actually do some work... I sometimes wonder how some of these people even make blog post, forum post, and etc.

              Oh I know what they do ... "Hey let me google it for the answer to this post and copy and paste it and change a word or 2" ...

              James
              Love this -- you hit the nail on the head. Most PLR chases me right off a site because I know that the job was done quick and dirty. As you say, Google it, copy and paste.

              Authentic writing with real substance may take longer to create but it will work.

              I had a bunch of old magazines too and just made a list of the topics and created brand new articles from the ideas generated from that list.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      For all those folks tempted to try most of the advice in this thread, or to spread this misinformation, I suggest going to any legal dictionary and looking up the term "derivative work."

      Get a clue, people. Learn how to learn, and learn how to think. Then, and only then, should you bother trying to write for a mass market. Otherwise, you're just a bad parody of a mediocre parrot of a sketch about a Norwegian Blah.

      If you're so intellectually impoverished that you can't express an idea with a new or unique perspective, or come up with a useful way to say something that doesn't involve copying from people who've made the effort to do the hard work of thinking, maybe writing isn't for you.

      Perhaps a career change. I hear there's great demand for people to market culinary upsells at establishments specializing in cuisine for the time-deprived.


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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Get a clue, people. Learn how to learn, and learn how to think.
        Ah...thank you very much! I've been trying to get that message out for years.
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        • Profile picture of the author butters
          Most things you read now days are not unique. Its simple, find some articles, lets say about weight loss, take all different aspects and points from the articles, just write simple notes about them so you remember then just write your article from your notes. You will come back with a good content article which in most cases, unless your unlucky and someone writes like you, something that google will like.

          This isn't plagiarism so its all cool.
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      • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Get a clue, people. Learn how to learn, and learn how to think.
        Which is what they should be teaching people in school - but don't. School is all about producing "evidence" that you have studied a topic. How to learn and how to think are ignnored.

        Originally Posted by peter-act

        OK, how would you rewrite Romeo and Juliet?
        I once went to a performance of R&J in Sydney Opera House. The performance was in French, so helpful surtitles were provided. It had been translated from French

        The bit I'll never forget? "Whatever you call a rose it will smell the same"
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  • Profile picture of the author iinny
    I would say 95%. You need to make sure that out of trouble could get your article on top position.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      How would you "rewrite" Star Wars?

      Maybe change the title to Space Battles? Maybe R2-D2, er, 2D-2R will be tall and copper colored and C-3PO, er, OP-3C will be short and make whirring noises. San Halo and his friend Backchewie will be space pilots or something, and help Duke Skywriter save Tia Piano from the clutches of Dark Daver.

      You could rewrite it 80%. You could rewrite it 95%. You could rewrite it 100%. But, you know what, you're still going to get sued by George Lucas because it's still freakin' Star Wars!!!

      If you just do the work and write your own original articles, you don't have to worry about percentages or how much to rewrite or getting past Copyscape or slipping through the cracks at EZA, because your work will be your work.

      If you want to rewrite stuff, get a hold of some quality PLR. Otherwise, do your own work.
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        How would you "rewrite" Star Wars?
        Well, I might make it about cowboys and call it "A Fistful of Dollars," or I might make it about samurai and call it "Yojimbo," or I might make it about a private detective and call it "Red Harvest."
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
          Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

          Well, I might make it about cowboys and call it "A Fistful of Dollars," or I might make it about samurai and call it "Yojimbo," or I might make it about a private detective and call it "Red Harvest."
          Or Star Trek (2009).


          Incidentally, the producers of Yojimbo sued over A Fistful of Dollars and won.
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      • Profile picture of the author peter_act
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        How would you "rewrite" Star Wars?
        OK, how would you rewrite Romeo and Juliet?

        You could call the Capulets the Jets and the Montagues the Sharks.
        You could rename Romeo Tony and Juliet Maria
        I think I'll change the location from Verona to New York's west side.
        I could perhaps add a few songs as well.

        I now have to think of a title - any ideas?
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        • Profile picture of the author peter_act
          [QUOTE=peter_act:OK, how would you rewrite Romeo and Juliet?[/QUOTE]

          By the way, even young Will nicked the story from "The Tragical History of Romeus and Juliet" by Arthur Brooke, published some 30 years before.

          So I suppose if it's good enough for a better writer than some of us, it's good enough for us!
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          • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
            By the way, even young Will nicked the story from "The Tragical History of Romeus and Juliet" by Arthur Brooke, published some 30 years before.

            So I suppose if it's good enough for a better writer than some of us, it's good enough for us!
            You may want to look into this a bit. Brooke is one of the potential "real names" of the supposed owners of the shared pseudonym, William Shakespeare.


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      • Profile picture of the author peter_act
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        How would you "rewrite" Star Wars?
        You could rewrite it 80%. You could rewrite it 95%. You could rewrite it 100%. But, you know what,you're still going to get sued by George Lucas because it's still freakin' Star Wars!
        Sorry Dan, but with this logic George should be sued by the executors of J.R.R. Tolkien!
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Taylor
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        How would you "rewrite" Star Wars?

        Maybe change the title to Space Battles? Maybe R2-D2, er, 2D-2R will be tall and copper colored and C-3PO, er, OP-3C will be short and make whirring noises. San Halo and his friend Backchewie will be space pilots or something, and help Duke Skywriter save Tia Piano from the clutches of Dark Daver.
        Oh man, I'm totally taking this and selling it to Hollywood!

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  • Profile picture of the author Agnel
    Try to rewrite completely. Take a paragraph, grasp the concept and write the paragraph in your own style and flair. Also change the headings completely. I have done some of them like this and never had someone say that it is similiar to something else.
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    • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
      I elaborate on details and use synonymns.
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  • Profile picture of the author dadvocate
    Here's an idea. Write all of your own original content. Have peace of mind. Have dignity.

    Nuf said.




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  • Profile picture of the author Damien Roche
    You don't rewrite other people's content. Simple.

    You research and build up your own mental landscape on a subject and then write your own original content...then you rewrite that to increase the amount of [hopefully valuable] content you have.

    When people talk about rewriting articles on this forum, they don't mean other people's content - they mean their own, either written by them, outsourced or plr.

    ..and whoever said researching a topic and writing what you've learned is copying articles from multiple sources needs to reconsider this completely absurd concept.

    *Everything* we know is from another source. We weren't just born with the knowledge to do sums and read and talk and write. We *learned* that from other sources.

    And if you don't see that - WOW - we must be plagiarizing so many text books right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author geoffcruz
    If its an offline publication that i would copy from, then i will just take the gist of the article make a completely new one or maybe 70 percent of the article.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      If its an offline publication that i would copy from, then i will just take the gist of the article make a completely new one or maybe 70 percent of the article.
      Why am I not surprised that a person whose sig file is just link bait would give this kind of bad advice, after so many others have actually bothered to READ the thread?

      I am reminded of something my cat once said. He didn't make any sense either, but it sounded a lot like your post...


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  • Profile picture of the author scottgallagher
    According to our testing, Google wants to see an average of 60% new content.

    Ethically speaking, copying one sentence word for word and then everything else is unique, is still wrong. Take that sentence and put it in your own words. In most cases, it's ok to copy text word for word if you cite the source.
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  • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
    Maybe this is why there are so many versions of the bible.

    No one wanted to get sued by the apostles relatives.
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  • Profile picture of the author anthony2
    Take the information you have read from the magazine and then

    rewrite it an your own words...it is nothing wrong with that. Americans

    we have been doing that for decades. From elementary to junior high to college and

    beyond.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by anthony2 View Post

      Take the information you have read from the magazine and then

      rewrite it an your own words...it is nothing wrong with that. Americans

      we have been doing that for decades. From elementary to junior high to college and

      beyond.
      Yet another one that did not bother to read the thread ...

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      • Profile picture of the author anthony2
        Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

        Yet another one that did not bother to read the thread ...

        James
        Someone who did not bother reading the comments that were made in this thread....
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    Wow unbelievable. :rolleyes:




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  • Profile picture of the author Trieu
    I dont think you can rewrite other peoples work, unless its plr material
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    • Profile picture of the author anthony2
      Originally Posted by Teo View Post

      I dont think you can rewrite other peoples work, unless its plr material
      When you do research on a topic....

      you can take the important details for that topic, that you have

      found across the internet/magazine etc.

      Then create your own article from the information that you have found.

      Then rewrite it in your own words. I don't see anything wrong with that.

      I am not talking about just taking someones article or information and

      then changing 20% of it then calling it yours.
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    How can anyone possibly take a 1500 word article, read it ,call this research, rewrite it , and feel they have done the world a favor by shedding new light on a subject ?

    Billy Bob cried .

    Billy Bob wept .

    Tears flowed , as if from some mystical river, from Billy Bob's eyes .

    Now some on here would say that the first two examples are still copied because there is only a 50% difference .

    This same crowd would say, since the later is 80% or more , the third sentence would be an original.

    All basically just let you know that Billy Bob is emotional.

    Billy Bob cried is the only original because it was written first . The other two , while changing the words , in no way change the meaning or sheds a unique light on the subject .

    Now you could probably get by with sentence three. Will it really get someone who has researched Billy Bob to click the buy now button ?
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  • Profile picture of the author rayray7
    It is unfortunate and discouraging to hear the advises given. grab an article, read it and write it in your own words. Personally, i just change each sentence, run it through copyscape and if it comes up clean, then i am done. Truth be told everyone copies. Nobody knows about everything.

    Some on this topic have sites about eyecare and they are not doctors. Some have sites about blood pressure and they never went to medical school. If you do not want to keep spending money on copyscape, then buy CONTENT COMPOSER it has the plaigarism checker function.

    Do not let people discourage you, everyone copies ideas for articles and most will simply deny it.
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  • Profile picture of the author samanderson4
    You should use them as a reference and cite the source. If that does not work for you, you can always put what they wrote in your own words, summarize. Personal opinion, always be original.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Truth be told everyone copies. Nobody knows about everything.
      There's an easy answer to that: Don't write about things you don't know, unless you're doing a research piece, in which case you should cite your sources.

      Not everyone copies. It's true that most ideas have been expressed before, but there's a large difference between an original piece on an old idea and a swipe of another person's work.

      BTW... I highly recommend staying away from medical, psyhological and legal topics unless you really know what you're talking about. You can hurt someone badly screwing around with those things.


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      • Profile picture of the author butters
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        There's an easy answer to that: Don't write about things you don't know, unless you're doing a research piece, in which case you should cite your sources.

        Not everyone copies. It's true that most ideas have been expressed before, but there's a large difference between an original piece on an old idea and a swipe of another person's work.

        BTW... I highly recommend staying away from medical, psyhological and legal topics unless you really know what you're talking about. You can hurt someone badly screwing around with those things.


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        Lol so niche marketing is a load of crap? How many websites have you done where you know sod all about, at the beginning you were probably pumping them out.
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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          Lol so niche marketing is a load of crap?
          Ummm... By what bizarre and circuitous route did you go from what I said to that ridiculous interpretation?
          How many websites have you done where you know sod all about, at the beginning you were probably pumping them out.
          Zero. Not one. Ever.


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          • Profile picture of the author butters
            Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

            Ummm... By what bizarre and circuitous route did you go from what I said to that ridiculous interpretation?Zero. Not one. Ever.


            Paul
            Whats the point of a very quick niche market? Quick and generates a trickle of income, do you really think that people should sit there and come up with some truely unique content for that market? That costs time and essentially costs you money.

            So to your comment, "don't write things you don't know about.", what a load of crap, I can pull 4 articles into one and its 4 times better content then all them 4 other sites. Sure it shouldn't be flat out copy and pasted but come on, you can't seriously believe that you shouldn't write about things you know nothing about.

            Heck that would mean forums would become boring.

            (BTW your sig link page is blank for me)
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by anthony2 View Post

          Take the information you have read from the magazine and then

          rewrite it an your own words...it is nothing wrong with that. Americans

          we have been doing that for decades. From elementary to junior high to college and

          beyond.
          Originally Posted by anthony2 View Post

          When you do research on a topic....

          you can take the important details for that topic, that you have

          found across the internet/magazine etc.

          Then create your own article from the information that you have found.

          Then rewrite it in your own words. I don't see anything wrong with that.

          I am not talking about just taking someones article or information and

          then changing 20% of it then calling it yours.
          Anthony2, do you see the difference in your two posts? The first might be interpreted to say 'find a piece of material and then rewrite it in your own words'.

          While most of us may have turned in a grade school report that we copied from an encyclopedia, we quickly learn that the practice is not acceptable as adults.

          Your second post, on the other hand, describes research followed by original writing based on that research. It's still good form to cite your sources, unless you are describing personal experiences.

          Doing so does not take away from your supposed expert status. And a side benefit of acknowledging your sources is you get an easy, painless way to bump your word count...

          Originally Posted by butters View Post

          Lol so niche marketing is a load of crap? How many websites have you done where you know sod all about, at the beginning you were probably pumping them out.
          Ooohhh, this is gonna be FUN! Get the popcorn...:rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        BTW... I highly recommend staying away from medical, psyhological and legal topics unless you really know what you're talking about. You can hurt someone badly screwing around with those things.
        I agree.

        I would also add Financial to the short list!

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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          Whats the point of a very quick niche market?
          If you meant to say niche site, the answer to that is simple: To trick the mechanical intelligence of a search engine into forming a conclusion which a working human intelligence rarely would - That the content is relevant and useful and deserves attention.

          There are exceptions, but they're not usually created by people who leech off the creative effort of others.
          So to your comment, "don't write things you don't know about.", what a load of crap
          Did you not read the entire sentence, or are you consciously avoiding the part about citing sources?
          you can't seriously believe that you shouldn't write about things you know nothing about.
          I can't? What an astonishing revelation! And all this time I thought I believed that.

          Thank you for the illumination...


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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    Come on guys - it's not frickin rocket science.

    I you can look at yourself ethically and see some integrity and feel good about yourself and your business, then you shouldn't even have to ask.

    If you do have to ask, perhaps you need to re-evaluate the way you produce your content because 9 times out of 10, it'll come right back and bite you in the a$$.

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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

      Come on guys - it's not frickin rocket science.

      I you can look at yourself ethically and see some integrity and feel good about yourself and your business, then you shouldn't even have to ask.

      If you do have to ask, perhaps you need to re-evaluate the way you produce your content because 9 times out of 10, it'll come right back and bite you in the a$$.

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      Fully agree Allen ....

      @domainarama - Dude do not assume all article directories are the same just because you have seen some trashy ones.. Not a very good thing to do on this forum and especially since you are very new..

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  • Profile picture of the author domainarama
    The purist deep down in all of us knows we should put ideas into our own words. Don't copy, don't cheat blah blah blah

    But this is the age of the internet. People write brief articles, maybe 500 words. They take the articles and submit them to article directories. There are, what, 3000 article directories. Maybe 2999 article directories accept the article. The article is part of the vast collection of submissions to the directory. My goodness, each article directory has at least 10,000 articles. 10,000 x 3,000 = a huge reservoir of knowledge in article directories on the net.

    Except we all know 98% of the articles in article directories on the net are rubbish. 98% of the articles are copies of copies of copies of spun articles. Just pick one topic: how many original ideas can the human brain have about applying for a loan? Yet I guarantee you that within the 3,000 article directories there are at least 300,000 article about how to apply for a loan. Each one is original, right? Gimme a break!

    I think Google is like a politician. It says one thing and does the other. It says it wants original content. It doesn't penalize duplicate content, it just ignores it. But it gives very high page rank and other good marks to article directories like EZA etc which contain nothing but repetitions and repetitions of stolen, spun articles. In other words, Google slaps the little gal or guy who writes ten barely original article, but it supports and gives cred to the swill that slops around in most article directories. Sheesh.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      What Google or the article directories think is beside the point. The point is that legally you cannot take an article and rewrite it.

      Do people do it anyway to make a quick buck? Sure.

      Does that make it okay because others are doing it? Nope.

      Have several people in this thread just painted themselves with the tar brush that will carry over into other aspects of their business? Yup.

      Some of us write by researching our facts through several sources and then coming up with our own unique perspective on the topic. What a novel idea.

      If you can't come up with an original thought, ethics are not the only thing you should be worried about.

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  • Profile picture of the author AmyBrown
    The good thing about threads like this is it helps pinpoint the people that I don't want to do business with. If you'll steal from someone else there's no reason to think you won't steal from me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Amy,
      The good thing about threads like this is it helps pinpoint the people that I don't want to do business with. If you'll steal from someone else there's no reason to think you won't steal from me.
      Here's the problem: Not one of these people is likely to ever acknowledge that they're stealing, because they don't understand the value of creative effort or original expression.

      Read what some of these folks have said. We're talking about very different value systems here. Or, in some cases, the absence of any value system at all.


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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Amy,Here's the problem: Not one of these people is likely to ever acknowledge that they're stealing, because they don't understand the value of creative effort or original expression.
        That's correct Paul ... plus the fact that some wannabe marketer is probably selling some lame ebook for $7 that explains "how to do article marketing and create articles in 3 minutes or less".

        I would not put it past such an ebook that says go to eza pickout a high ranking article and copy it and change some of the wording.

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        • Profile picture of the author butters
          Ok heres my question, how do you truly make unique content.

          The way I do my content is, I gather articles, take down the notes I want and just write. I don't copy and paste I just use the structure and the key points of there content as a guideline.

          Would this class me as one of these people who rip off content? If so, how do you get your content, if no, cool :p.

          Look I am not trying to give the wrong impression that I support people ripping content off and just basically changing it a little, no. My point I was trying to put across, it is so hard to even put out unique content because if you look at it most ways its already been wrote about and done. I am 19, I don't have the experience older people have had where they gain knowledge, so I am forced to look at others and write it to the best of my ability.

          (Paul sorry missed the reference part, even thought I don't do that, only normally do that for a school paper.)
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          • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
            how do you truly make unique content.
            Understand what you're talking about. Say it in a useful, relevant and interesting way.

            If you read 4 articles, synthesize what you've read, and add something to it, that might be unique and worthwhile. Or it might not. If you read more, understand your topic better, and add a significant expressive or conceptual contribution, that's going to be unique.

            Here's a question for you: At 19 years of age, have you decided that your goal in life is to be a human article spinner?


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            • Profile picture of the author butters
              Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

              Here's a question for you: At 19 years of age, have you decided that your goal in life is to be a human article spinner?


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              I hate writing , I don't enjoy it which may be my problem but once I get my stuff going the idea was to out source that. When I write I try to put my views and thoughts into the articles and also try to put a bit of humor in there to. (If it is acceptable).

              Hehe, nah my dream isn't to be an article spinner. I would love to teach one day, if it be online or offline, always liked the thought of it since I was young.
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              • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
                Originally Posted by butters View Post

                Hehe, nah my dream isn't to be an article spinner. I would love to teach one day, if it be online or offline, always liked the thought of it since I was young.
                I thought you might be a youngster...

                Paul's too modest to say it, so I will. Click the link in his sig, sign up for his newsletter and really read the ebook that comes with it.

                Switching gears, I read a historical novel years ago, set in the pre-Civil War American South. One of the characters was a young fellow who loved to read and study, hated hunting and fighting. The exact opposite of what was considered manly back then. He just wanted the world to leave him to his books...

                Another character, one who embraced both the intellectual and the physical gave him some advice. Basically, he said that if you wanted the world to accept you, and the world painted its face and danced around the campfire, you'd better learn to dance around the campfire. You have to learn to fight so you can bloody the bully's nose and make him respect you.

                It works somewhat the same way here. You may hate to write now, but learn to do it anyway. You'll get the chance to teach if that's what you want. You'll be able to string thoughts together in ways that make others sit up and take notice. They'll learn from you...
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  • Profile picture of the author Hillary Dale
    Originally Posted by Sandeep Shah View Post

    I have discovered some amazing topics which have huge audience but there are no websites/blogs. But there are a lot of offline magazines publishing information about it.

    I am planning to use those magazines for content creation. If I take content from these magazines, to what % should I rewrite it to keep my nose clean?
    I suggest you do your own research and formulate your own articles. Simply rewriting someone's articles does not make it your own. You can get ideas from those magazines, from there, write your own fresh article, and not just reword/ rephrase the article. Get information from other sources also.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      I would love to teach one day
      What do you think writing is?

      Every writer is a teacher. I'm not talking about the barely literate hacks who crank out keyword-focused drivel for pennies on the click. I'm talking about writers.

      If you want to be a good teacher, you need to learn to study and understand, organize your thoughts, and express them clearly. There's very little that develops that set of skills like becoming a decent writer.


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  • Profile picture of the author Branlan17
    Yeah... Why not just write your own articles? It's a valuable skill since you appear to be pursuing, um, article marketing?
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Originally Posted by Sandeep Shah View Post

    I have discovered some amazing topics which have huge audience but there are no websites/blogs. But there are a lot of offline magazines publishing information about it.

    I am planning to use those magazines for content creation. If I take content from these magazines, to what % should I rewrite it to keep my nose clean?
    Okay, we've had the debate over the ethics of stealing content. Again.

    (Can you tell where I stand? )

    Coming back to your original question, here's a method you can use to utilize those offline magazines in an ethical way. I adapted it from a post Clayton Makepeace wrote on copywriting.

    Basically, you grab a stack of magazines, which you'll be going through three times.

    With notebook ready to take notes, go through each magazine and look at the topics. Note what areas of your subject are important and look for trends on what gets covered repeatedly. Write down your findings as you go. Also note any article titles which catch your attention - write them down. That's our first pass.

    Second pass - we're looking for bits of content we can use. Facts, figures, ideas, resources, etc. Write them down for later use. Extract the main points in your own words. This pass will take the longest, as it requires the most reading.

    Last pass - we're looking for bits of copy. Words, phrases, jargon with definitions. Expressions that catch our eye. Does a writer have a unique way of expressing a point? Copy it in your notebook word for word, along with the writer's name and where you found it. You can use this as appropriate, with proper attribution.

    Follow this with a stack of magazines, fill in the blank spots with a combination of online research and real books, and you should have fodder for whole bunches of original, unique articles.
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