JV ha ha what a joke!

Sheer greed driven ****! I would hunt and kill.

Its not the fact about the money, its the principle that hass annoyed me. Yes it is shame about the naming and shaming too. I am more annoyed that he was having me promote a site that was his with content I paid for. Not only that but the articles were not even $260 they were $210, the writter told me in his email. he will be quite on here for a while now I think all for a measly $100+ is not even worth it, it really aint.


I have his email, msn and all that mate yes. He is never online these days well that what his status says anyways...




Here is what the writter emailed me. I have taken all the names out ofcourse :rolleyes:

Hello,

Stephen, I'm sorry that we have been having problems. Allow me to explain to you what has been happening from my side. It sounds to me like your partner ??????? has not been completly honest with you. Originally, we agreed to $3.50 per article for at least 500 articles per month. Then, your partner disappeared for a few days. Then, I was contacted again by him and we decided upon $210 for 60 articles. He told me that he would send me $130 at that time and then the rest when I was half way done.

I was then sent 20 keywords to write over. I believe that I send 6 articles on the first day after I recieved the keywords. That was the 6 articles that you were sent. Then, ??????? told me to send the articles directly to him instead of you. I then sent 8 articles then next day and then 6 on the next day.

I was only sent keywords for 20 articles, I alerted him that I would not be able to write anymore until I recieved more keywords. He told me that he would get me more, and they would be written promptly. I delievered the last set of articles to him on December 12th and told him that I couldn't write any more until I had more keywords. Then, after 5 days of no response, he contacted me and said that I needed to rewrite a few of the articles and that he would be sending me more money and keywords soon. I did not jump on the rewrites because he had waited 5 days to get back to me and I had other work. Besides that I had no other keywords to continue writing more.

This is what I believe has happened. Your partner, ??????, told you that the two of you would split a $260 payment for 60 articles. Although, he had worked out a total payment of $210 with me. Then, he fronted me $130 from you and told me that it was from him. Then, after I wrote the articles, he would have only had to pay me $80 which is $50 less than you paid.

So, to wrap up. I only recieved one payment of $130 dollars from you that I was told was from ??????? (he also sent me a payment of $10 that he never explained, even though I asked him what it was for). I was given keywords for 20 articles and I delieverd them as I was told. I asked for more keywords so I could write more articles and I they were never delivered to me. I did write one review of ?????????????????, instead of two and that was my error. I must have misread the request for two reviews.

I have included images of conversations that ???? and I had on the Warrior Forum and through e-mail. I have also included a screenshot of my Paypal account to show you that I only recieved one payment of $130 from you and no other payment in the amount of $130. These images do not include our entire conversations, so I can send you more if you would like.

I assure you that I attempted to set up the details of our transaction before payment was ever sent, but your partner is very difficult to communicate with. He seemed to often forget what terms we had already set out and I often had to remind him of what we had agreed on.

Please contact me soon so we can get this straightened out.






Very sneaky of him huh. I just feel bad for hounding the poor writter

Steve M

wow...this is absolutely horrible.

The level people will stoop to.

On the brite side (if there isn't one), at least it wasn't to the scale of Bernie Maddoff, plus, I guess you can at least walk away with a few lessons learned.

Don't feel like you can't trust ANYONE though now. Just be a little more cautious with your own screening process before deciding to work with someone you've never met before.

Wow, that sucks dude it really does. This post has gave me stuff to think about when I look for a jv partner one day... Sorry dude that you got scammed

Live and learn. At least it was only for a little bit of money. And yeah I am finding hard not to smile knowing all the hours I was promoting his stuff too

If you dont laugh, you'll only cry

Steve

On the bright side:

You've learned a valuable lesson about JV's - always have the responsibilities and division of work in writing before you start...with a time line.

The domain is in your name and you have the hosting.

The writer seems willing to work with you to provide what you paid for.

Forget the loser and complete the project yourself.

kay

Makes me smile just thinking of her, she is all good Laura thanks.

She is sleeping like a baby in her cot. 7 months already she'll be walking in no time.

Steve

Sorry about what happened to you. If this can be verified this loser should be banned from the forum.

James, if this gets posted maybe you can drop back to this thread and post the link, or let people know to PM you for it if that's against the rules.

Send a pm to the admin to get this scammer banned!

So sorry to hear about this & it is good that you are able to move on.

Like Kay said, you MUST get everything in writing BEFORE you hand over any money, but if you've been messaging this guy for over a year, it's easy to see why you didn't.

You'll be able to really sort the good from the bad now & have successful partnerships from here on.

Best of luck.

Sissy

Fernando's got a point. These people need to be called out. Who knows, he may have struck again with another unsuspecting IM'er.

Gurpreet

Hi Anomaly1974,

That's awful! Sorry to hear about that.

Warrior Mmurtha has a site here - and if you Google for ablake forum there's a section there for naming and shaming.

HTH

I can feel your pain - the big question is how could you possibly prevent such a thing in the future...??? Even a signed contract dont really help

Hi,

Hey thanks a lot for posting this.

Maybe my jv guys dropping out was a blessing.

See this is what I am talking about when I say a little integrity goes a long way. The fact that it is another Warrior is not good but the positive thing is you can rise above it.:p I know i want to be advised of these people so I don't make the same mistake the fact is those of us who are paying members and active in the forum need to be able to check things out if we get approached or even if we approach someone else.I think we should have a section under the War room that allows us to .

I am very sorry it was another member here but as troy said lots of us on here don't have the grubber syndrome we are here to help and succeed as well.

I hope you have Much success in the Year/years to come.
Merry Christmas To You And Your Family

_WD

Are JV's of this nature ever worth it? Infact I think any business without a single clear owner is going to have problems like this :-o (some exceptions to that rule of course...) Partnerships will always be thwart with problems, even if you know the other person really well.

Remember ... "Be your own boss" ... thats what it is about!

Eeks!

It's a rough road this JV stuff. I mean really, you can't always find a great situation. On the other hand, you really limit yourself and your success if you write them off completely.

Here's to you and your good humor. I am not a huge "Karma" fan, but this things have a way of coming around

My niece would say - "poop on his face" lol