How does this site make money, it is everywhere.

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Best Teeth Whitening Products - Compare, Buy, Review the best Teeth Whiteners

I can't go anywhere without seeing it, starting to drive me crazy. Wish I owned it, lol.

Alexa of 12,167

No PR which surprises me.

Every chic/gossip site has this site as a link, etc...

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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
    Some serious black hat action going on there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Monetize
    It's an affiliate marketing site.

    Get one
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    I know exactly how they are doing it... I'm doing it in other niches and making a killing for each website I have doing it. The great thing is it's all autopilot...

    Can you figure it out... It's NOT black hat at all (At least not the way I do it)

    I was getting 60 visitors a day the first week I put it up and I wasn't even done with the site...

    This is crazy and ridiculously easy!

    Mike Hill

    PS. Alexa doesn't mean anything
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    • Profile picture of the author onera
      I think they are driving traffic using PPC (AdWords, etc.). A master PPC marketer.
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      • Profile picture of the author ExRat
        Hi,

        I may be wrong, but I thought they were all over the content network? (IE adwords>adsense/site targetting)
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    • Profile picture of the author XFactor
      Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

      I know exactly how they are doing it... I'm doing it in other niches and making a killing for each website I have doing it. The great thing is it's all autopilot...

      Can you figure it out... It's NOT black hat at all (At least not the way I do it)

      I was getting 60 visitors a day the first week I put it up and I wasn't even done with the site...

      This is crazy and ridiculously easy!

      Mike Hill

      PS. Alexa doesn't mean anything
      Oh come now Mike, throw us a bone here

      I'm moving over to affiliate marketing so any details of what you are talking about would
      be most appreciated in my PM box.

      Consider it helping someone that REALLY knows how to work hard and puts things into
      action.

      - John
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
        Originally Posted by XFactor View Post

        Oh come now Mike, throw us a bone here

        I'm moving over to affiliate marketing so any details of what you are talking about would
        be most appreciated in my PM box.

        Consider it helping someone that REALLY knows how to work hard and puts things into
        action.

        - John

        LOL... I'm almost ready to share. It will be a mentorship program but I will let you come aboard for FREE just for asking

        I'll send you a PM with details of the calls in the next week or so! Actually I'm very seriously considering letting you in on this and use you as a case study.

        Mike Hill

        PS. For the record it's NOT PPC...
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        • Profile picture of the author XFactor
          Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

          LOL... I'm almost ready to share. It will be a mentorship program but I will let you come aboard for FREE just for asking

          I'll send you a PM with details of the calls in the next week or so! Actually I'm very seriously considering letting you in on this and use you as a case study.

          Mike Hill

          PS. For the record it's NOT PPC...
          Well what can I say - I gladly accept!

          Looking foward to your PM.

          - John
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        • Profile picture of the author XFactor
          Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

          Actually I'm very seriously considering letting you in on this and use you as a case study.
          A case study would be good Mike. I'll be happy to facilitate this so that you can
          use the details of my progress. Having worked so hard with my Adsense business
          I'm ready to move onto a six-figure per year Affiliate business.

          Let's talk when you are ready.

          - John
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        • Profile picture of the author oortcloud
          Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

          LOL... I'm almost ready to share. It will be a mentorship program but I will let you come aboard for FREE just for asking

          I'll send you a PM with details of the calls in the next week or so! Actually I'm very seriously considering letting you in on this and use you as a case study.

          Mike Hill

          PS. For the record it's NOT PPC...
          Mike, I know you have had some success with stumbleupon, so thats the best guess I can come up with, but saying it is social bookmarking seems to simplistic. So some form of more elaborate social bookmarking strategy ?

          Please PM me.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rob D
          Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

          LOL... I'm almost ready to share. It will be a mentorship program but I will let you come aboard for FREE just for asking

          I'll send you a PM with details of the calls in the next week or so! Actually I'm very seriously considering letting you in on this and use you as a case study.

          Mike Hill

          PS. For the record it's NOT PPC...
          If you need a second case study...**puts had up and jumps up and down** Pick me.
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    • Profile picture of the author reapr
      Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

      I know exactly how they are doing it... I'm doing it in other niches and making a killing for each website I have doing it. The great thing is it's all autopilot...

      Can you figure it out... It's NOT black hat at all (At least not the way I do it)

      I was getting 60 visitors a day the first week I put it up and I wasn't even done with the site...

      This is crazy and ridiculously easy!

      Mike Hill

      PS. Alexa doesn't mean anything
      I agree Alexa and PR don't mean much for traffic but this site must be BH no google index or cache!
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
        Originally Posted by reapr View Post

        I agree Alexa and PR don't mean much for traffic but this site must be BH no google index or cache!
        Yeah that's definitely odd considering my affiliate sites are getting ranked within a day or two in highly competitive markets. Maybe Google has already visited them and sandboxed them. I did notice however that there are a lot of sites like hubpages, squiddo etc. that are created for the sole purpose of promoting their URL.

        Mike Hill
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        • Profile picture of the author reapr
          Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

          Yeah that's definitely odd considering my affiliate sites are getting ranked within a day or two in highly competitive markets. Maybe Google has already visited them and sandboxed them. I did notice however that there are a lot of sites like hubpages, squiddo etc. that are created for the sole purpose of promoting their URL.

          Mike Hill
          So if I were to speculate this would have to be about RSS! Now do I get a bone?
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      • Profile picture of the author Tuzic
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        hi,

        this sounds just a bit too good to be true! & no no real backlinks? how is that you can have that many visitors & no pr & backlinks? what master ppc is that?
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        • Profile picture of the author Andy Hart
          this is carlos and lupes tactics in all its glory only a little bit less professional looking.
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          • Profile picture of the author lavidaloca
            I know how they are doing it.

            They have obtained credit from sources like Yahoo and other massive trafficked sites and they are advertising on those sites. The traffic is incredible from those handful of source...hence the low backlink count yet high traffic count.

            The credit cannot be obtained by anyone. It's bloody difficult.
            Also, you need a PROVEN review page.

            So, if there is one thing to learn from this thread it's NOT where they get their traffic from, that we know....BUT you should study their review page! They are getting a lot of traffic so that means their review site HAS to have a incredible conversion rate because stakeholders are pumping more money into it's advertising because it's proving effective.

            'DUPLICATE' (to your own content) their review page and see what it will do for your conversions.

            Peace out
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            • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
              Originally Posted by lavidaloca View Post

              I know how they are doing it.

              They have obtained credit from sources like Yahoo and other massive trafficked sites and they are advertising on those sites. The traffic is incredible from those handful of source...hence the low backlink count yet high traffic count.

              The credit cannot be obtained by anyone. It's bloody difficult.
              Also, you need a PROVEN review page.

              So, if there is one thing to learn from this thread it's NOT where they get their traffic from, that we know....BUT you should study their review page! They are getting a lot of traffic so that means their review site HAS to have a incredible conversion rate because stakeholders are pumping more money into it's advertising because it's proving effective.

              'DUPLICATE' (to your own content) their review page and see what it will do for your conversions.

              Peace out
              L
              The beauty is in it's simplicity.

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            • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
              Originally Posted by lavidaloca View Post

              I know how they are doing it.

              They have obtained credit from sources like Yahoo and other massive trafficked sites and they are advertising on those sites. The traffic is incredible from those handful of source...hence the low backlink count yet high traffic count.

              The credit cannot be obtained by anyone. It's bloody difficult.
              Also, you need a PROVEN review page.

              So, if there is one thing to learn from this thread it's NOT where they get their traffic from, that we know....BUT you should study their review page! They are getting a lot of traffic so that means their review site HAS to have a incredible conversion rate because stakeholders are pumping more money into it's advertising because it's proving effective.

              'DUPLICATE' (to your own content) their review page and see what it will do for your conversions.

              Peace out
              L
              For the most part lavidaloca is correct however, instead of trying to get credit at these huge advertising sources I do something else a little different. It costs me money to get things rolling (about $400 - $600) but hey nothing worthwhile is free, right?

              Mike Hill

              PS. Whose to say you couldn't do these types of offers with a "FREE" cd offer (just pay shipping) built into a continuity program? ... Could be on just about anything, for example I could put together a Free CD of "Celebrity Workouts, healthy eating, etc.." Then follow up with a monthly continuity for a product along the lines of "Your Own Screen Star Figure In 10 Minutes A Day!"
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              • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
                Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

                For the most part lavidaloca is correct however, instead of trying to get credit at these huge advertising sources I do something else a little different. It costs me money to get things rolling (about $400 - $600) but hey nothing worthwhile is free, right?

                Mike Hill

                PS. Whose to say you couldn't do these types of offers with a "FREE" cd offer (just pay shipping) built into a continuity program? ... Could be on just about anything, for example I could put together a Free CD of "Celebrity Workouts, healthy eating, etc.." Then follow up with a monthly continuity for a product along the lines of "Your Own Screen Star Figure In 10 Minutes A Day!"
                The industry term for this is RFT - Risk Free Trial - and it works best with mass market products. The model works because shipping covers the entire product cost. It is best hooked up to CPV networks.
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              • Profile picture of the author mbealmear
                Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

                For the most part lavidaloca is correct however, instead of trying to get credit at these huge advertising sources I do something else a little different. It costs me money to get things rolling (about $400 - $600) but hey nothing worthwhile is free, right?

                Mike Hill

                PS. Whose to say you couldn't do these types of offers with a "FREE" cd offer (just pay shipping) built into a continuity program? ... Could be on just about anything, for example I could put together a Free CD of "Celebrity Workouts, healthy eating, etc.." Then follow up with a monthly continuity for a product along the lines of "Your Own Screen Star Figure In 10 Minutes A Day!"

                I would love for you to explain this a little more please! You have my attention!
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          • Profile picture of the author MacFreddie
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            Originally Posted by honestandy View Post

            this is carlos and lupes tactics in all its glory only a little bit less professional looking.

            That was my 1st guess.

            Less professional? Have you seen some of their "smoking patch sites"?

            Mac
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    • Profile picture of the author artgirl
      Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

      I know exactly how they are doing it... I'm doing it in other niches and making a killing for each website I have doing it. The great thing is it's all autopilot...

      Can you figure it out... It's NOT black hat at all (At least not the way I do it)

      I was getting 60 visitors a day the first week I put it up and I wasn't even done with the site...

      This is crazy and ridiculously easy!

      Mike Hill

      PS. Alexa doesn't mean anything
      Hi Mike:

      It seems as though you definitely know what you are doing. I would greatly appreciate any help or tips concerning your system.

      Thank you.
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      • Profile picture of the author debra
        I'll give you one bone as to how they are doing it....

        They have a very lucreative CPA campaigne going through several CPA networks. Their money is made on the reoccuring sales and backend cross promotion...

        I lied!...

        There's a second one...

        They use several advertising medias to saturate thier demographic market. And, let thier affiliates through the CPA network work on second tier advertising (aka. Adwords...which increases branding)

        What to know what a few of those media markets are?

        Ask Mike to throw in a bone too.
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  • Profile picture of the author greenovni
    Master ppc
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  • Profile picture of the author dsiomtw
    It's pretty tough to get an Alexa rank of 12k for a teeth whitening site off PPC alone.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fender85
    Is that the guy on FoxNews? Every time I go to their website, there's a listing for something like that in their sponsored ads.

    EDIT - Yeah, that's him. As a for instance - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429441,00.html



    "Teeth Whiteners Exposed"

    7 Teeth Whitening Products Tested, Rated, and Reviewed. A Must Read!

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  • Profile picture of the author SimonRiver
    I see it on sites Yahoo all the time. I think the psychology is that the buyer will do almost ANYTHING to avoid the dentist. Hence, they'll buy teeth products online.
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    • Profile picture of the author JoseArmando
      Originally Posted by SimonRiver View Post

      I see it on sites Yahoo all the time. I think the psychology is that the buyer will do almost ANYTHING to avoid the dentist. Hence, they'll buy teeth products online.
      I think you might be right.

      And if I'm correct this site is rich jerk's.
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      • Profile picture of the author CodrutTurcanu
        I didn't see this before.

        Where did you get your facts from??

        Did everyone else see this as a viral effect site, or what? lol
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  • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
    There is no mystery here - they are running google content ads and contextual advertising with large media networks dirving the traffic to a CPA review site.
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  • Profile picture of the author junker86
    To my knowledge, celebrity sexy teeth doesn't have an affiliate program. If that is the case, it's the merchant's own review site. This is a trend that has become more common.
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  • I'd have to guess contextual advertising, probably a lot of banner drops, cost per impression type campaigns, just because something isn't plastered all over google doesn't mean it can't get massive traffic.

    Where do you keep seeing it? That kind of answers where the traffic is coming from.
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    • Profile picture of the author MacFreddie
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      Originally Posted by Christopher R Everson View Post

      I'd have to guess contextual advertising, probably a lot of banner drops, cost per impression type campaigns, just because something isn't plastered all over google doesn't mean it can't get massive traffic.

      Where do you keep seeing it? That kind of answers where the traffic is coming from.
      TMZ.com HuffingtonPost.com People.com and a lot of others

      Mac
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  • Profile picture of the author macchiavelli
    Mike....you got my attention.....please explain.....lol!

    And how do you guys know this site get over 2 million us visitors a month?
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  • Profile picture of the author dsiomtw
    What is a CPV network? I assume you mean cost per visitor ... which is the same as cost per click (CPC) ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Andres
    This guy/gal is without a doubt killing it. I saw the ad as well rotated on my juno homepage after I log out as well.

    Major traffic indeed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dixiebelle
      I first saw this on TV. It was a short commercial that directed you to the website. That's where the massive traffic is coming from, and the massive traffic is driving up the ratings.

      The commercial is just long enough to get your attention. Naturally, you are going to go to the site and pull it up to get the real scoop. So up goes the ratings.

      Dixie
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  • Profile picture of the author onlineleben
    How does this site make money, it is everywhere.
    I don't see this question answered here (or maybe i don't understand what you are saying). Checking the source code it lookslike someone has forgotten to enter his affiliate id's.
    Or is it really a review site created by a manufacturer who produces all 7 of the reviewed products?
    Please let an unknowing one know
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  • Profile picture of the author shinzo159
    hey! that's interesting..!!
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  • Profile picture of the author MacFreddie
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    Now I see this site EVERYWHERE, wow.

    Try and NOT find it :-)

    Mac
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  • Profile picture of the author Alp Bozkurt
    The copy in best-teeth-whitening.com is very well written, IMHO.

    "I honestly never thought that increasing the brightness of my smile a few shades would make much of difference in my overall look, but now I can't imagine going a day without my favorite teeth whitening product."

    "But now after 4 months of using my favorite teeth whitener, I get 2-3 compliments a day about how "nice" my smile is from both men and women. I also seem to be getting kissed by my boyfriend a lot more often"

    I bookmarked the page to study the copy in more detail.
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    • Profile picture of the author Aaron Moser
      Notice how the creator of this review site included other products that he/she is not affiliated with as well. This is a important for all those who have review sites. It makes your review look more legit.
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  • You know what's sad? Back when these first started popping up (and when I was too niaeve to realize that the "review" site was actually an affiliate site) I totally got suckered by it. I bought the damn tooth whiteners. The product sucks. So does the lip plumper sold by the same people: Celebrity Sexy Lips.
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