Clickbank Affiliate Products a Joke?

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Hey Warriors I've been roaming the clickbank market place and in all honesty the products being sold on their don't sound like anything appealing at all. I don't believe in any of the products enough to sell and make a mini website with videos and all that. They just don't seem like legit products trying to offer value or solve someone's problem.

I was wondering how you guys felt about it whether clickbank is more a newbie starting point just to get to know the business and should I start looking for for legit products outside of clickbank that actually solve a problem and offer value. One web-site I considered was elegantthemes.com they have some of the best looking word-press themes I have ever seen and know people will snatch it up at 19.95 a year price. Thoughts?
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  • Profile picture of the author Louise Green
    Many people here sell on Clickbank, just like everything else for sale there's good products and bad products, it depends on your perspective and expectations.

    What is dirt to you might be pure gold to someone else.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
    Maybe you need to look deeper. There are plenty of quality Clickbank products.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    There's definitely a lot of junk on Clickbank but there's also a lot of gold. Take DLGuard, for one. No better software for secure product delivery available. I just sunk $100 today into the Minisite Formula and it's a bargain at the price. I think MicroNicheFinder is also Clickbank which I just purchased and it's excellent. Went on a little shopping spree. I also got a few nice -- very nice -- commissions selling DLGuard from my blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author ebook
    most products on clickbank are junk, but there are a few quality products. you just have to see for yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    As already said, many of the products listed on CB arent that great - however, I know that my products on there sell very well. There are sellers on there - its just a matter of finding them.

    Heres a tip - Dont waste too much time getting hung up on gravity score.
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    • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
      There's much more to making money online than Clickbank although I always do love a compelling product to promote and where better than the number 1 hyped up marketplace lol.

      But yes you are thinking correctly as if you don't feel comfortable promoting there's no point gettig involved. Instead promote some of the celebrity attire that they spend thousands on (7million Inch HD tv's, 1 million dollar designer boots and what not).
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  • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
    You have alot of options other then clickbank. I used to feel the same way awhile ago and I moved to other affiliate programs. Look around and see what you like, once you find it run with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author LetsGoViral
    Yes, many products on CB might seem a bit scammy. I don't really like Clickbank because everyone has access to it and that means I am competing against ton of people - experts or not. I better apply to some private network that has screening process for affiliates and go from there...
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    • Profile picture of the author Melani
      My first product is on Clickbank because I was told that's where I had to sell it. So I guess I fall under the 'newbie' category, but I'd hate to think of my product being labeled junk. I put everything I know into it. That said, the 'gravity' which is what so many people are told to look at (even I was when I looked into affiliate marketing) is 0.66 lol... so I'm not exactly going to show up on anyone's radar.

      I'm trying though...
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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    Every clickbank product I have bought on marketing I have been happy with.

    It was PotPieGirls One Week Marketing that truly got me started in affiliate work.

    Clickbank gets a bad rap, but I'm not sure why, all products I have gotten from there have been great.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by Slin View Post

      Every clickbank product I have bought on marketing I have been happy with.

      It was PotPieGirls One Week Marketing that truly got me started in affiliate work.

      Clickbank gets a bad rap, but I'm not sure why, all products I have gotten from there have been great.
      I've heard good things about this one....I was actually reading her sales landing page yesterday...

      She seems to frequent Squidoo quite a bit....
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      • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
        I've always wondered something....it seems like the norm for Clickbank affiliate commissions usually run around 50-75%.....

        Is this because of the quality of product? I mean, do people feel like the higher commission they offer, the more people will be inclined to push its sale (even if they don't really believe in it)?

        Not sure if my thinking is flawed here.....
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        • Profile picture of the author Heidi White
          Some of the Clickbank products have a very Spammy Marketing Message style, but I've definately purchased products I love through Clickbank.

          I wish they'd outlaw the 'ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO LEAVE THIS SITE' pop-ups, especially when you get two of them.

          "Yeah I'm f'n sure I want to leave, I clicked the X didn't I?"

          Once I got a pop-up after I tried to X out of a Clickbank sales page that looked like a windows error box that said a bunch of stuff about how my machine had been violated by a virus. "Click here to prevent further damage." I fell for it, and it took me through a few more similar error message boxes/pop-ups before I found myself finally and unexpectedly on a sales page for some security / anti-virus software I'd never heard of.

          That product had nothing to do with the initial product I'd been looking at, (I think it was an SEO product,) and when the realization hit me - that it was all a scare tactic farce, I was pissed.

          Obviously, Clickbank didn't care, or didn't know about such strategies, so - yeah, I wonder about their quality control. With crap like that happening from time to time, I think it's safe to presume there's a fair number of BS products available through Clickbank.

          Kinda like gambling (which I'm against - btw)

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          • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
            Here's the real deal with Clickbank products...and a lot of folks aren't going
            to like hearing this.

            For starters, too many of us are locked in our own little cesspool of IM
            trash. I'm talking about the slick dudes looking to make a quick buck. They
            toss up some crap online, a slick sales page, go through the whole JV
            whoring process, and sell a load of sh*t.

            That's one part of the market and it's rampant through Clickbank. I've done
            enough reviews of this crap over the years to know.

            Then there is a second market. The caring IMer who actually puts time and
            effort into the product he creates. Yeah, he still has all the right contacts
            and has the slick sales page created, but underneath, there is some real
            value.

            Problem is, on the surface...you can't tell the difference between the
            sales pages all look the same.

            And then there is a third market. I call it the third world market of
            Clickbank.

            These are the folks who don't know anything of our little incestuous world.
            These are folks with 2.3 children at home who are looking to make a few
            extra bucks selling their book on basket weaving or whatever innocuous
            product you might find out there.

            I have run into quite a few of these products and they're excellent. One
            product is how to sell your home in 21 days even in a buyers market.
            The tactics are brilliant. The book was written by somebody who REALLY
            knows the real estate business...not just some hack marketer.

            His sales page looks so-so and he doesn't know how to advertise. So
            his gravity sucks and therefore, affiliates either don't find it or don't
            promote it if they do.

            But there is a market for these products (do your keyword research and
            you'll see) and if folks would just get their heads out from their backsides
            and stop looking at all the Colorforms copy that's floating around the
            Internet, they just might find something not only worth promoting but
            something that they can be proud to promote.

            Of course this is just my opinion, and what the hell do I know?

            I've only been doing affiliate marketing through Clickbank for close to
            7 years now.

            Anyway, take this little post for what it's worth to you.

            As with anything else...there is good and there is bad.
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        • Profile picture of the author Hesaidblissfully
          Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

          I've always wondered something....it seems like the norm for Clickbank affiliate commissions usually run around 50-75%.....

          Is this because of the quality of product? I mean, do people feel like the higher commission they offer, the more people will be inclined to push its sale (even if they don't really believe in it)?

          Not sure if my thinking is flawed here.....
          Not necessarily. They may just offer a higher commission so that their product attracts more (or better) affiliates. It also depends on the price point of the product. If it's a low priced product, then the commission percentage will usually be higher.
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  • Profile picture of the author Karomesis
    nah, no legit CB products, just a few making mid and high six figures a month

    unless of course you were talking about REAL money:rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Williams
    I'm going to agree with Steven and just add that I make a good chunk of change from affiliate marketing with a product that has about 2 gravity with a very boring sales page. But it sales, because the person who wrote it isn't some internet marketer - it's a professional in that area.

    You just have to find these products.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ellen C Braun
    Originally Posted by fabianc View Post

    Hey Warriors I've been roaming the clickbank market place and in all honesty the products being sold on their don't sound like anything appealing at all. I don't believe in any of the products enough to sell and make a mini website with videos and all that. They just don't seem like legit products trying to offer value or solve someone's problem.
    You can compare Clickbank to a phone directory in a big city- there are some rich people and a whole bunch of poor people in each phone book.

    Before I promote a clickbank product to my 60K list, I always request a complementary review copy along with some thoughts regarding the topic on hand.

    If there is no response, then I ignore the product.

    When there is a response, and I do learn from the product, I also create a lasting and meaningful relationship with this person for future JV's.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vixxen
    Everyone says it's easy to make money with CB and with this and with that.

    I've one problem...I can't get any traffic! I'm hopeless....I make nice websites...
    but I haven't found a way to get anyone to go to those sites.

    So how can I make any money if I can't get any traffic? I'm so a little fish in the great big sea...
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  • Profile picture of the author williamrs
    Although most CB products are not worth a single buck, there are some products that are really useful. I would say that 5% to 7% are good products.

    And CB is not for newbies only! Experienced marketers make a lt of money with CB. Actually, more than 30% of my income comes from their products!


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  • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
    Yeah getting traffic is a prime concern, and obstacle for many online Entrepreneurs it takes work especially if your using free traffic generation methods. But it is easier than you think! It just takes a little knowledge, and an effort on your part, stick to your game plan daily and the traffic, and sales will come!

    As far as Clickbank goes they have some top notch products I promote them pretty heavy, and some are poor quality also. Look at the gravity the ones with the higher gravity are usually your better quality, and better performing products! Just separate the winners from the losers. Overall no-one can compete with them in my book for high affiliate payouts, and quality digital products if you know where to look! There is over 10,000 products of course there are gonna be some bad ones in the bunch. That goes with any big company not every one of their products are gonna be top notch
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  • Profile picture of the author Sam S
    There's so many more options and avenues for affiliates if you don't like what you see on clickbank. One problem with clickbank is their product price limit (nothing over $100 - or is it $150). My product sells for 2k, so I had to do a lot of searching for alternatives - I went with avangate and found they have plenty of great products.
    But, of course, it depends on your target market - clickbank does offer something for just about everyone, even though the quality is often questionable.
    Just do a search on "affiliate networks" - you'll find plenty. Many of them screen the offerings much better than clickbank to minimize the crap.
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    • Profile picture of the author Taylor French
      Originally Posted by Sam S View Post

      There's so many more options and avenues for affiliates if you don't like what you see on clickbank. One problem with clickbank is their product price limit (nothing over $100 - or is it $150). My product sells for 2k, so I had to do a lot of searching for alternatives - I went with avangate and found they have plenty of great products.
      But, of course, it depends on your target market - clickbank does offer something for just about everyone, even though the quality is often questionable.
      Just do a search on "affiliate networks" - you'll find plenty. Many of them screen the offerings much better than clickbank to minimize the crap.
      It's nothing over $50 unless you get the product approved at a higher price point.
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    And of course clickbank is not the only virtual product place out there, CJ and paydotcom are also worth looking at.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sam S
      Paydotcom also has some very dodgy products - there's no pre-approval process as with clickbank (though that doesn't always make much diff)
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Bainbridge
    There is good and bad everywhere, but yes, because clickbank is the easiest and cheapest for mertchants to list on and this will lead to all sorts being listed there, but likewise it is the most open and accessible system for affiliates too.

    I think 90% of the programs on any network will be rubbish, and that includes poor quality products, products that don't really help, but also sites which are old, poorly managed, and sites which have left their affiliate program to decay over time.

    With any network make a full investigation into the vendor, see what materials they provide, see if they can provide conversion proof, even contact them personally to see if they are responsive / serious about their product.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolverine1971
      A lot of success of the product does depend on the vendor. For example their are hundreds of fitness products on Clickbank but a vendor I work with does a great job at working with his affiliates giving them rebrandable PDF's, articles, emails for their lists, and multiple products to promote and does a good job at making sales pages that convert really well.

      This makes a big difference when working on Clickbank to promote products because some of us don't have unlimited time to create a lot of these things ourselves. I only have a couple hours a day to work on internet marketing so getting all kinds of support is a huge plus.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sam S
    Actually, clickbank is not the easiest and cheapest for merchants to list on - paydotcom and many others do not require a registration fee (i think clickbank charges $49 per product). plus their approval waiting time can be a pain.
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  • Profile picture of the author gdrg
    I presume most of you guys talk about the IM products? The Health & Fitness products I've seen and reviewed so far are far from garbage.
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  • Profile picture of the author DigiCypher
    Thanks for bringing this up! Good stuff to know.
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    • Profile picture of the author RanD
      There is actually some great stuff there. It is a place for talented people to sell their own products without having to go through the hassle of managing the financial transactions themselves. Unfortunately, many IM "gurus" teach their students that making their own info products, and selling them at places like clickbank, is the best way to make money. Some even go so far as to tell their students that the products don't even have to be very good, and then they show them how to throw a bunch of crap together and call it an ebook.

      Like anywhere else in sales, you are going to have good quality stuff right next to cheap, junky knockoffs.
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  • Profile picture of the author pappyy3
    Agree There are a considerable number of junk products in Clickbank.

    Many of the ones I've come across are in the Internet Marketing niche.

    Without naming names, many belong to the so called "gurus".

    The bad ones are REALLY bad. Nothing but rehashed PLR material along with errors in the info, outdated info and spelling mistakes!!

    Having said that, there are also a lot of gold nuggests as well. Do your research and make it a point to buy and review the product yourself before you start promoting. Some niches are better than others in terms of quality of products on offer.

    If the product does not live up to your expectations, chances are that others will feel the same way. No point in promoting a product that just has customers asking for refunds...

    I have no hesitation in applying for a refund from Clickbank if I feel the product does not live up to it's promise (from the sales page).
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  • Profile picture of the author DPM70
    I started IM in Sept 09 and I've made $300 ($150 of which in the last 4 days since my website has started to rank). Not a lot, but to a Newbie like me it gives me the impetus to carry on and work harder. I'm selling a clickbank product that converts every 75 hops for me and has order form impression to sale ratio of 1 in 3. I'm happy as Larry. I just need to keep building that traffic and expand on what I've learned.
    Maybe I just got lucky in this niche? Already looking for the next one.
    And thanks for the top tip Steven
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  • Profile picture of the author Grayth
    Like everyone clickbank is a mixed bag and finding the decent products takes some sifting. Especially with alot of vendors basically ripping each others material and simply doing rewrites into a new clickbank product..

    The best thing really is just keep at it until you find a winner then try to build on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Cross
    Personally from my own experience CB has some excellent products in all niches if you are willing to take some time & do your research. Also Mike Filsaime's site paydotcom has a a great range of quality products too.

    If you have a resposive list within your niche they will be interested in alot of what CB productshave to offer.

    Cheers

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      I never had much luck with products but I did really well with a phone number lookup service, peeps ate it up, moved on to cpa and never looked back. To each their own though.
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  • Originally Posted by fabianc View Post

    Hey Warriors I've been roaming the clickbank market place and in all honesty the products being sold on their don't sound like anything appealing at all. I don't believe in any of the products enough to sell and make a mini website with videos and all that. They just don't seem like legit products trying to offer value or solve someone's problem.

    I was wondering how you guys felt about it whether clickbank is more a newbie starting point just to get to know the business and should I start looking for for legit products outside of clickbank that actually solve a problem and offer value. One web-site I considered was elegantthemes.com they have some of the best looking word-press themes I have ever seen and know people will snatch it up at 19.95 a year price. Thoughts?
    Nice pitch for elegant themes. Anyway...

    If you don't believe in the product, you'll be wasting your time trying to sell it. There are a lot of crap products on Clickbank but there are some really good ones too.
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