Methods for true emergency cash...

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I don't want to sound harsh when I write this because I have been in bad situations before. This is just some helpful thoughts for those that are in a desperate situation. I got the urge to write this because of a support ticket I just got done answering for an individual that purchased something from me for over $50.

They wanted to know when I was going to set everything up for them that they just bought from me. Even though I never promised this anywhere in the sales materials that I would set it up for my customers. They demanded that I help them because and I quote; "My house is cold and my children are hungry and even the dogs are ready to start looking good as food."

I responded to them and said that I would be sending over a refund because the money they just spent with me could buy them and the kids food for at least a week. Then I proceeded to ask them if they can do writing or graphics or something like that because I could help them find some ways to make some fast income.

I feel horrible for this individual, but my reason for refunding them and responding in the way I did is because I want them to understand that if you are in such a desperate horrible situation why would you spend over $50 and then rudely demand from the product owner that they help you now even though it is a holiday nonetheless?

I enjoy helping customers and I love helping people in need, but I really think that if you are in such a bad situation that maybe you should hold onto your money and use that for the most important things which is survival at the moment.

For those struggling right now here are some ideas that may help you get some emergency cash.

1. Start a writing business and do article writing for other Warrior members. Maybe offer your services just to get in the door at $3.50 per article. Sell them in packages of 10 articles. So $35 per package then sell 10 packages. Boom right there you have $350. Now you have a lot of work, but if you do a good job you should be able to retain some of those people or find new ones. I am not saying you need to undersell your services, but if you need money fast then you need to do something drastic to get people to take a risk with you.

2. Start a link building service. Offer to do social bookmarking, blog commenting, forum posts, or other links for maybe $0.35 to $0.50 per link. Sell those in packages of 100 links.

3. Write a report or ebook on something you are knowledgeable about and offer PLR to it and run a WSO for it. Make sure it is quality, but that can make you some money.

4. Contact other Internet marketers through their support desk and offer your services to them. Even if they don't need it maybe their students need help.

5. Seek out other webmaster forums that have a Buy/Sell/Trade section and offer your services there.

The main thing is that if you are at a point where your option is to feed your kids or buy an IM course I would encourage you to always choose feeding your kids. They are number 1 and the most important. Then make some money using the ideas above to buy that Internet marketing course and take action on it.

Hope this didn't come across as too harsh! Happy New Year!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    Super post Paul and it's lovely to see that you did exactly the right thing and refunded this person.

    I would underpin what you said, if you're in such dire straits that you have a choice between feeding your children, paying your rent/mortgage etc or buying an IM product then of course IM should come last.

    Some nice ideas there to get started if you do want to stay online and supplement your income

    Happy New Year to you

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          Originally Posted by redetail View Post

          fast legit cash is my mantra at the moment as i am unemployed

          ANY OTHER GOOD IDEAS
          It depends on your skills. Offer a service to people who need that service. It's work, but it brings in money. There's no fast easy cash button.

          Building a sustainable business is the best thing for long term success but you can provide services for quick income. If you can build sites for people, do backlinking for people, write content for people ... whatever you can do and can do well.
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        • Profile picture of the author countonuspr
          Originally Posted by redetail View Post

          fast legit cash is my mantra at the moment as i am unemployed

          ANY OTHER GOOD IDEAS
          The best idea I can give you is to pick one of the 5 things I mentioned above and work your tail off at it until it generates the "fast legit cash" you are in need of. Then focus on building your business to be more sustainable.
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    • Profile picture of the author countonuspr
      Happy New Year to you too Kim! Thank you so much for your feedback here! I really appreciate!

      Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

      Super post Paul and it's lovely to see that you did exactly the right thing and refunded this person.

      I would underpin what you said, if you're in such dire straits that you have a choice between feeding your children, paying your rent/mortgage etc or buying an IM product then of course IM should come last.

      Some nice ideas there to get started if you do want to stay online and supplement your income

      Happy New Year to you

      Kim
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  • Profile picture of the author LetsGoViral
    Another thing you might want to do if you are an affiliate marketer and really need some cash - sell some of your sites (you probably have many) at Flippa!
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  • Profile picture of the author johnng
    Some very good advice indeed! Bless you and thank you for your inspiring action of refunding the payment to a needy family. Thank you very very much for so inspiring. I am sure the saying what go round will come round will be true for a worthy fellow! Happy New Year!
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  • Profile picture of the author Lesboy
    Good post Paul and I know from personal experience that what you suggest works.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dapper Fellow
    Good for you, Paul! Well done. I lived through Katrina and I know first-hand how important it is to have multiple income streams. The Internet in general and IM in particular can be part of that diversified revenue flow. In addition to my blogging for cash and affiliate marketing efforts, I also teach as online college courses for multiple online colleges in an adjunct capacity. I am constantly urging the adjuncts I know to not depend on just one school for an income. In my opinion, the current economic situation is entirely too volatile to expect one "job" or income source to stay viable over the next few years. I completely agree that all of the suggestions offered in this thread for generating cash are good ideas and should be explored by anyone who is feeling threatened by loss of income. The idea of writing a series of 10 articles on a hot niche topic and selling them multiple times is especially appealing my view. In fact, one of my goals for 2010 is to start offering PLR to the Warrior community through a WSO.
    Can anyone speak from experience to the potential of this PLR idea?
    Many thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyBrown
    There are many more ideas in this thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...desperate.html

    May everyone have a prosperous New Year - and a backup plan if things go awry.
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  • Great post buddy!

    I really feel for people like this because I've been in the exact situation before many, many times.

    It's hard not to spend money on some IM product when you're desperate because, well, you're desperate and in dire need of a solution.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      While the focus here is understandably on things you can do online, don't forget things you can do offline.

      Is there a temp agency near you? I survived for an entire summer working for a day labor office. The work itself sucked - from unloading boxcars of liquor by hand because the forklift wouldn't fit to scraping the floors at an adhesive factory - but the pay was immediate (daily if requested).

      Sometimes you have to trade a little dignity for luxuries like a roof over your head, regular meals, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author countonuspr
      Originally Posted by Zachary R. Skinner View Post

      Great post buddy!

      I really feel for people like this because I've been in the exact situation before many, many times.

      It's hard not to spend money on some IM product when you're desperate because, well, you're desperate and in dire need of a solution.
      Thank you Zach...great thoughts on your post. I agree with what you are saying about at times when I was struggling it was hard not to buy an IM product.

      I think sometimes we do such a great job selling our product that it looks like the solution that will help them get out of the situation they are in. Even though what we are selling will help them it may not help them as fast which is when the panic and demands from them start to set in because they realize they spent their last dollar with you as the marketer and they need money tomorrow instead of 30 days later or something.
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  • Profile picture of the author UBotBuddy
    Sometimes you have to trade a little dignity for luxuries like a roof over your head, regular meals, etc.
    I agree with that statement!

    I was unemployed for 2.5 years and one of the things I did was I visited local computer shops to see if they had work they were willing to outsource that they just did not have time for. Guess what? I bunch of computers stacking up needing Anti-Virus scanning, Malware scanning and Registry scanning. These were walking customers that were overwhelming the companies.

    I had a load of work. It put gas in my car and food on the table.
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  • Profile picture of the author topher
    Paul, it was really kind of you to offer a refund. This thread will also be a great read for them. The methods suggested here are sound. I got d most cash at a single time when a warrior offered me a service here at the warrior forum. With my internet connection being sooo slow at the time and being new to IM, the warrior still understood with me. I suggest knowing your service very well and offering quality at the begining to retain repeat customers when offering a service.
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  • Profile picture of the author ant_arias
    Great thread, a very wealthy man once told me that in all his years in business, his most successful and lucrative businesses were service businesess.

    It goes against what people think about making money online. It's a business just like any other and needs to outsource certain aspects of it, so why not fill that by providing a quality service instead of chasing the next "make $xxxxx while you sleep" offers.

    I've been guilty of this too, but putting food in my families mouth was never a trade off.
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    • Profile picture of the author countonuspr
      Thank you for all of the great posts and feedback here. You have all provided some excellent feedback and suggestions, that hopefully someone in a tough situation will be able to learn from and make the right choices.

      A wise person once told me that: "A dollar is worth more than a dollar when you need it the most."

      That statement is so true, so if that dollar means feeding your family or putting a roof over your heads do whatever it takes to make sure they are taken care of first. So even if you don't want to start an article writing service business, but you are good at writing just dig in and start going to work.
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      • Profile picture of the author lerxtjr
        Sorry, I have to throw in an opposite opinion here. I get two or three emails a month from 70+ year olds saying they're retired and bored or need money all of a sudden and "heard about this Internet thing" and are finally ready to "see how to make all that money online" and can I just "take a minute or two" to reply to their email and get them started.

        If you're starving and need immediate income to save your house and feed your kids, the Internet is no place to be. When in financial turmoil, you will not be patient enough to test and tweak and research markets and trends, and make calculated decisions, which are required components of really making money online.

        Plus, how can you suggest to someone that's starving that they can just start offering Internet marketing related services? Would YOU buy Internet marketing services from someone who isn't financially successful on their own using Internet marketing techniqes?

        Be realistic here folks. You've got some real people in real trouble reading this. The best advice was to get in with some temp jobs. That's the most immediate thing out there.

        Also, if Internet marketing is what you're set on, find some Internet big wigs in your area and offer to apprentice under them for peanuts 4 or 5 hours a day (and I mean something they can't refuse like $100 per week..something they can't pass up!). You will be amazed how much you learn from someone doing it right and you may just start a relationship that explodes you to wealth.

        While you're working the temp jobs or apprenticing, take a few hours every night to promote some affiliate programs and learn how to do it well. It will probably take you about 6 months if you learn from the right sources, but once you have it, you will be able to expand on your own + help others with their Internet marketing strategy for $100+ per hour, because you will have experienced the process yourself.
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        • Profile picture of the author countonuspr
          Originally Posted by lerxtjr View Post

          Plus, how can you suggest to someone that's starving that they can just start offering Internet marketing related services? Would YOU buy Internet marketing services from someone who isn't financially successful on their own using Internet marketing techniqes?
          Thanks for your insight on here, but I disagree with this statement. I am not recommending they go out and provide major skilled services like SEO or IM consulting. I am plainly suggesting simple things that even a newbie can do.

          Writing articles on niche subjects or IM subjects even can be done by someone that is new. Nearly anyone can be a good writer. It takes research and effort. Obviously before someone sells their services they would need to provide some samples of articles they have done in the past for potential buyers to review, but a lot of new people online are skilled writers and when given the subjects they can write great articles.

          People I outsource articles to are not experts at weight loss or experts at SEO and link building, yet they produce outstanding well-researched content time and time again. If I were to go to hire a complete expert that has proven themselves to write for me the cost would barely justify it. So yeah I will hire a new person that can put in effort and research.

          Now the other services I suggested included blog commenting, social bookmarking, directory submissions, article submissions, etc. If you can point and click a mouse you can do these jobs.

          Again, to be obvious you have to know what sites to submit to and a little bit of the process, but it doesn't take long to learn these things.

          I suggest this to someone that is starving because at least they could generate some revenue while they are actively looking for a temporary job. It may take a month before they are hired, so they may as well start getting something rolling.

          I do agree with you that when you are starving IM is a scary place to be, but I feel the solutions I laid out can help someone if this was their last resort and they can't get a job. It takes time, effort, skill to generate income online and unfortunately many people believe it happens overnight because they are told that in some sales letters and late night infomercials.
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          • Profile picture of the author raynman
            There wasn't an unreasonable thing about any of those opportunities you pointed them to and kudos to you for having the guts to give them the refund. Great advice you gave them. Probably not what they wanted but, from the signs, it was what they needed.

            There are quite a few who think they can make a living on IM doing nothing at all. A lot of the people selling their lessons on how to make money online will tell you that you really don't have to do anything, that making money is the easiest thing in the world. They share stories about people who have made $2,000 online after only being in it a week or something and people buy into that myth. It may happen but those stories are much rarer than they would have you believe.

            Most of the opportunities out there in IM is doing grunt work for the more successful IMers out there, and by more successful, I'm not talking millionaires or people who are even close. It's average joes who still have a mortgage or two and tons of debt they are trying to pay off....at least that's the perception I have.

            The grunt work may not be glamorous at all and it may not make you rich but it's something. When you've been out of work for a while, you take what you can get and that stuff sure beats the commute and working at a fast food restaurant (if you could even find work there).

            The great thing about doing the grunt work is that usually it involves a lot of learning. Applying what you know and using it to your advantage...that's the tricky part but it makes those small and petty jobs a bit more worthwhile.
            Originally Posted by countonuspr View Post

            Thanks for your insight on here, but I disagree with this statement. I am not recommending they go out and provide major skilled services like SEO or IM consulting. I am plainly suggesting simple things that even a newbie can do.

            Writing articles on niche subjects or IM subjects even can be done by someone that is new. Nearly anyone can be a good writer. It takes research and effort. Obviously before someone sells their services they would need to provide some samples of articles they have done in the past for potential buyers to review, but a lot of new people online are skilled writers and when given the subjects they can write great articles.

            People I outsource articles to are not experts at weight loss or experts at SEO and link building, yet they produce outstanding well-researched content time and time again. If I were to go to hire a complete expert that has proven themselves to write for me the cost would barely justify it. So yeah I will hire a new person that can put in effort and research.

            Now the other services I suggested included blog commenting, social bookmarking, directory submissions, article submissions, etc. If you can point and click a mouse you can do these jobs.

            Again, to be obvious you have to know what sites to submit to and a little bit of the process, but it doesn't take long to learn these things.

            I suggest this to someone that is starving because at least they could generate some revenue while they are actively looking for a temporary job. It may take a month before they are hired, so they may as well start getting something rolling.

            I do agree with you that when you are starving IM is a scary place to be, but I feel the solutions I laid out can help someone if this was their last resort and they can't get a job. It takes time, effort, skill to generate income online and unfortunately many people believe it happens overnight because they are told that in some sales letters and late night infomercials.
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            • Profile picture of the author MADULALI
              Paul,

              Just to add my two cents worth and offer a simple but powerful money making strategy.

              In addition to holding a garage sale for themselves, they could also offer to hold a garage sale and pick up items from family, friends, and co-workers and agree to sell them on a consignment arrangement and split the profits.

              This ideal works great for someone that has stuff that they want to sell but don't have the time, patience, or their neighborhood won't allow a garage sale.

              Using this simple method can generate hundreds of dollars per week.


              Expect Abundance,

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              • Profile picture of the author lerxtjr
                Formal training and personal practice is great.
                But nothing beats getting in the trenches and
                doing it.
                Maybe a happy medium is to suggest someone do their article marketing or blog posts or whatever...to promote a few high quality affiliate products or lead gen affiliate offers to get their feet wet.

                Working for clients is a tough business all its own. When the "starving" newb gets his first paid gig getting paid peanuts anyway for churn-work and winds up reworking article #1 twenty times to make the client happy (you know how paying clients want every word perfect), and he looks at his watch and realizes he's made nothing in the process, it will be a quick turnoff of the entire IM business.

                I get an email or two a month from people who have already been IN the services business for two or three years asking how anyone can survive with all the outsourcing available at peanuts wages. To suggest that "Nearly anyone can be a good writer," is a true statement. But, to suggest they can learn as they go and get paid for it without experience is a reach for me to buy into.

                For someone that's truly starving needing "quick" cash, as was the whole purpose for this thread, offer to do cheap work for a services provider so that you can learn from their experience. Or, find a few good affiliate programs and learn to promote them while doing temp work or something for the quick paycheck.

                Their are tons of marketers out there who ONLY have experience doing work for other people. But, I don't think you're able to fully put yourself in a client's shoes to help them put food on their table using the Internet until you've done it yourself. I've hired helpers on both ends of that coin; those who have promoted something online for themselves versus those who have only given services to clients. It's a big difference.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
          I agree with you entirely that IM is not the place to be if your starving etc, but not with skills offered etc in the marketing niche.

          When I had my membership sites one of my writers was my daughter who wouldn't know what IM is if it jumped up and hit her in the face and she was one of my best writers (So she told me anyway lol)

          Cheers
          Kim


          Originally Posted by lerxtjr View Post

          Sorry, I have to throw in an opposite opinion here. I get two or three emails a month from 70+ year olds saying they're retired and bored or need money all of a sudden and "heard about this Internet thing" and are finally ready to "see how to make all that money online" and can I just "take a minute or two" to reply to their email and get them started.

          If you're starving and need immediate income to save your house and feed your kids, the Internet is no place to be. When in financial turmoil, you will not be patient enough to test and tweak and research markets and trends, and make calculated decisions, which are required components of really making money online.

          Plus, how can you suggest to someone that's starving that they can just start offering Internet marketing related services? Would YOU buy Internet marketing services from someone who isn't financially successful on their own using Internet marketing techniqes?

          Be realistic here folks. You've got some real people in real trouble reading this. The best advice was to get in with some temp jobs. That's the most immediate thing out there.

          Also, if Internet marketing is what you're set on, find some Internet big wigs in your area and offer to apprentice under them for peanuts 4 or 5 hours a day (and I mean something they can't refuse like $100 per week..something they can't pass up!). You will be amazed how much you learn from someone doing it right and you may just start a relationship that explodes you to wealth.

          While you're working the temp jobs or apprenticing, take a few hours every night to promote some affiliate programs and learn how to do it well. It will probably take you about 6 months if you learn from the right sources, but once you have it, you will be able to expand on your own + help others with their Internet marketing strategy for $100+ per hour, because you will have experienced the process yourself.
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          • Profile picture of the author lerxtjr
            one of my writers was my daughter who wouldn't know what IM is if it jumped up and hit her in the face and she was one of my best writers (So she told me anyway lol)
            Ha, yeah, I started teaching my wife how to do AdWords a year ago for a couple of my own products and she's making more doing that for clients now than her real job, which I'm trying to get her to leave (hope she's not a secret warrior )

            Maybe a sub-topic we should start for teaching family to help with the biz or something.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sink or Swim
        I agree, feeding your family comes first and foremost, and I hope that the person that wrote that email to you was exaggerating a bit. Glad to read that you helped them out. And thank you for all the useful tips in this thread--
        BTW, what was the product they had purchased from you, just curious.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    If anyone has problems budgeting, I can thoroughly reccommend this www.youneedabudget.com/ (Not an affiliate link)

    I was conscious of the fact that I was wasting a huge amount of money and bought it a year ago, it's very good (I saved myself a couple of thousand dollars a month using it)

    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Steiner
      countonuspr - good for you for responding to the person's need rather than the apparent hostility. This really says a lot about your character. I've seen many people lash out at this type of email, which it seems many of those who teach in the MMO niche receive. You instead offered a refund and constructive advice.

      BIG Mike - this is some additional good advice that you offer here. Many of us forget how hard the tough times can be while we are enjoying the good times. I myself have been bitten by this, and the truth is that you would hardly notice the small amounts you save during the good times, but having that in the rough ones can make a world of difference. When I find myself in good times again, which I expect to very soon, I will heed this advice.

      lerxtjr - it is always good to see a dissenting opinion here, especially when it is well considered. However, I definitely have to disagree with your stand on this point.

      Building an IM business takes time, as I'm sure no one who has seen success in this field would disagree. But each person has different skills. A person who is technically inclined may be able to offer development services, or someone who can write can offer article services. Almost anyone can learn to offer directory submissions or links.

      You don't need to be successful at IM to offer these related services, and I would argue that once you are successful you would buy rather than sell these services. If you've ever outsourced anything in your business, you've probably already bought something from one of these people.

      Of course, offering junk or illegitimate services is not going to bring you anything except trouble. But offering online services can be as a good way to emergency cash as any offline service.

      To further the point, a real estate investor who flips houses will hire contractors. These people may have no experience in flipping houses, but their skills are still of benefit to the flipper. The same can be true online.

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    • Profile picture of the author countonuspr
      Thank you Mark! I am glad you and a few others have posted that thread that Paul Myers started about a month ago. That thread contains some outstanding advice!

      My apologies if anyone thought I was trying to recreate this thread. I didn't know it was here until after I saw a few of you bring it up. I wanted to get my thoughts out there to help those that are struggling as well.

      Here it is again...great thread!

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...desperate.html

      Originally Posted by MarkAndrews IMCopywriting View Post

      You completely did the right thing.

      If anyone is desperate to make money, I suggest
      this thread and in advance, my apologies if someone
      else has already posted up this thread by Paul Myers
      a month or so back...

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...desperate.html
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  • Profile picture of the author mryan1
    hmm... I like this post. I find it odd that people seem to think that when you buy a product, that there is going to be ZERO effort put in from there end. To make money, it takes guts and hard work. No one ever make a million dollars from doing nothing. Pull yourself up by your boot-straps! Kinda harsh, but that is my method of thinking and I have always had to work for everything that I have. Too bad that America has be made into a bunch of crying poor mouths. There is always money to be made. Put your dignity aside and do the thing that is most important. PROVIDE FOR YOUR FAMILY!!!!

    Sorry for the rant, just had to say it!
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    • Profile picture of the author lerxtjr
      You don't need to be successful at IM to offer these related services
      Before I pay someone to do Internet marketing anything, whether programming, design, ghost writing, seo, article marketing, press releases, or sending an email to my mother, they will need to prove to me that they know what they are doing. Otherwise, I have to "train" them what to do. That's something I'm willing to do and have done it many times. I'm just saying for someone truly starving and wanting quick cash, they either better know what they are doing or seek training as an understudy to learn before throwing themselves out there as a hired hand for pay.

      a real estate investor who flips houses will hire contractors. These people may have no experience in flipping houses, but their skills are still of benefit to the flipper.
      Exactly. Their "skills" are existing or the foreman will train them in what steps to take to accomplish the task.

      I maintain my position that for someone that's truly starving, and on the brink of bankruptcy, jail, foreclosure, divorce, suicide, all those horrible things.....and indexperienced, I just don't feel comfortable suggesting the "quickest" and "surest" money is going to be in the stuff you and I do every day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mo Faisal
    The Warrior For Hire section is also a good place to start for newbies to offer their services.
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    • Profile picture of the author countonuspr
      You are right on here! Great feedback! Thank you!

      Originally Posted by WhoIsMrBenjamin View Post

      Sweet post man.

      I don't know what people have against other
      people starting off doing something if they
      never done it before.

      We all had to start somewhere, and I command
      the person who takes article marketing and sell
      his services at a discount if their brand new to
      it.

      Formal training and personal practice is great.
      But nothing beats getting in the trenches and
      doing it.

      Obviously, this approach doesn't go for all
      careers (ie. doctors, lawyers,etc)...but it doesn't
      take a rocket science to learn how to write
      articles and make money at the same time.

      I like the post and suggestions, brilliant.
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  • Profile picture of the author Arun Kumar
    The methods which you have mentioned are absolutely good for the emergency cash and I follow some of those methods too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nicketas
    I think the opportunity to create a product specifically for these "desperate" situations is in order for any marketer who is willing to VAStLY undercharge (5 bucks, tops) and MASSIVELY over-deliver as best as possible....

    Hope you're willing to write untill your fingers bleed for this one!
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    • Profile picture of the author Hanz
      Wicked post, Paul. You know what? You probably could've sold those 5 methods you just posted as a WSO. LOL!!! Always nice to see somebody provide a helping hand.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelJM
    Great advice and thank you for your tips.
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  • Profile picture of the author digigo
    I have to agree with one of the posters above.. when you need food to feed your family... STAY AWAY from internet business... internet money is slow money...you may find some free stuff on craigslist and sell for a little profit.. but building website, and making it a profit center takes time and it will not help you put food on the table or pay the bill.. they can always find night shift work.. grocery store .. mechanic shops..movers... many businesses always need hard labor...but I can understand what people will do in desperate situation...they can not think clearly
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    • Profile picture of the author MurphSmurf
      I'm not convinced that going out and getting a real job is always a better solution than trying to make money online.

      Think about it: It may take WEEKS to find a job (even a crappy minimum wage job at McDonalds), and even after you start, it will take 2-3 weeks before you see your first check. That's a lot of time passing you buy if you need to feed your children.

      And I don't know, maybe I'm in the minority here, but I really don't have anything of value to sell on Craigslist / Ebay that would net me very much money. I'm not the type of person who owns a lot of expensive gadgets or cool stuff that I could sell. Even if I could make a few hundred bucks, it's really only a temporary solution.

      I think a lot of Warriors underestimate the amount of money they can make by providing services and selling WSOs. I started providing services for Warriors in November, and honestly I didn't get a ton of clients, just a handful. But half of those people hired me on for long-term work, which is now paying my bills. I'm not making a TON of money but it's a whole hell of a lot better than going to a temp agency or trying to pawn all of my stuff.

      It's entirely possible to make a living online, even if it may be a meager one at first.
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      • Profile picture of the author mikeb209
        Go to Labor Ready or Labor Connection. They're temp services that pay cash daily. They may not go by those names in your town but they pretty much have them all over.
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      • Profile picture of the author countonuspr
        Great post! I completely agree with what you are saying. I used to staff people at temp agencies in my job prior to IM (worked 60 hours a week and was paid for 40) and I know that often times there was a lot more workers than jobs. Also, I know that it took a couple weeks for people to get started on their first project sometimes.

        So. yes if you are in a desperate situation look for a temporary job or a hard labor job, but also consider offering services and value to IMers, or turn to eBay. I recommend you do both. Like you said what good does it do if you get a job at a fast food restaurant and it takes you a whole month or more before you see any money from it.

        You could have made some money in that time, so if you are struggling look for a job and consider what types of services you can offer people.

        Originally Posted by MurphSmurf View Post

        I'm not convinced that going out and getting a real job is always a better solution than trying to make money online.

        Think about it: It may take WEEKS to find a job (even a crappy minimum wage job at McDonalds), and even after you start, it will take 2-3 weeks before you see your first check. That's a lot of time passing you buy if you need to feed your children.

        And I don't know, maybe I'm in the minority here, but I really don't have anything of value to sell on Craigslist / Ebay that would net me very much money. I'm not the type of person who owns a lot of expensive gadgets or cool stuff that I could sell. Even if I could make a few hundred bucks, it's really only a temporary solution.

        I think a lot of Warriors underestimate the amount of money they can make by providing services and selling WSOs. I started providing services for Warriors in November, and honestly I didn't get a ton of clients, just a handful. But half of those people hired me on for long-term work, which is now paying my bills. I'm not making a TON of money but it's a whole hell of a lot better than going to a temp agency or trying to pawn all of my stuff.

        It's entirely possible to make a living online, even if it may be a meager one at first.
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          • Profile picture of the author lerxtjr
            opportunity to create a product specifically for these "desperate" situations is in order
            naaa, not my market. There's not really a promising demand for something like that. I mean, unless you've already got a gargantuan following, like 50,000 opt-ins and up, it's just not worth making any re-make of an Internet product. So, beyond that, you'd better have something so unique that no one has heard of yet to make any traction. Lots of better ways to make a buck but I'd stay away from the "starving" need-money-today-or-I-lose-my-house crowd.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lady
    You were not harsh at all. You did the right thing and helped out not just him with the suggestions. Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfields
    It is dreadful that people are suffering so ... in my little city of just over 64000 the main stay industries are closing ... lumbering, mining, milling ... and that of course has a ripple effect on everything ... just today two more businesses are closing downtown. So it is becoming harder and harder to find part time jobs in any field ... and the blatant promises of the unscrupulous internet marketer is naturally attracting those less fortunate into thinking that the Internet is the panacea when as we all know in the beginning it can be just this huge bottomless pit we spend our time, our energy and our money. I admire those marketers who have made it and are giving back to their communities and to others in the online community. Thanks for sharing your story countonuspr ... a difficult time/situation handled with compassion.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgiaB
    The point here is to work seriously. There are many people who want money from nothing and in short amount of time. Yes, it is possible to make money fast, but you have to work for them.

    Your advices are good.
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  • Profile picture of the author rjaf
    If someone's desperate, really, really desperate, then they build castles in the sky. I've been on my uppers before, and I can attest to the fact that stress, worry, crap diet, etc. makes one's decision making a bit poorer than when things are great. Add onto that screaming, hungry kids, and you have a mini disaster on your hands. $50 on a hopelessly optimistic "I'll make $1k from IM in a week", or spending it on Lotto tickets... it's all the same: utter desperation leading to bad decisions and often a bad attitude.

    I commend you for refunding the woman, and I hope she gets through her obviously dire circumstances.
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