Why PLR Products Suck

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See if you can spot the disconnect.

Beginning of first paragraph: "I won't deny that there are a ton of books out there on teaching. Unfortunately the problem with most books on the subject of teaching is..."

Beginning of last paragraph: "Yes! I want to learn how to achieve the garden and landscaping of my dreams..."

Apparently, the real problem with most books on teaching is that they don't tell you how to achieve the garden and landscaping of your dreams. I know mine wouldn't, if I wrote one. I guess I just suck at this.

So why does this mean PLR products suck? Two reasons.

First, the manual in question is a PLR product I happen to have from a membership site I joined, and the sales page is stock. Comes with the ebook.

Second, the sales page is a PLR template I happen to have from a different membership site. The template as provided has example sales copy about gardening and landscaping, which you're supposed to modify to be about your product.

Oh, and special bonus third reason:

[PLEASE INSERT BONUS #1]

[PLEASE INSERT BONUS #2]

[PLEASE INSERT BONUS #3]

Together these three free bonuses are worth more than $37...
Why don't I believe you? Honestly, why? Could it be that I am cynical, and jaded, and a pessimist? Surely the problem is mine, and not some stupid mistake you made.
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  • Profile picture of the author Buildingfutures
    Obviously sir, when you joined my membership site you did not read all of the fine print. I never said this would be TOTALLY unique PLR, nor did I say that I wouldn't be spying on you through your webcam via a worm in the files you downloaded.

    Now, I'm tired of your attempts at shaming my name, I'm going back to watching your TV through your webcam.

    Good night to you sir!

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  • Profile picture of the author SuiteJ
    Well, I buy a crap load of PLR and not ALL of it sucks....but that post was funny as Hell!
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by SuiteJ View Post

      Well, I buy a crap load of PLR and not ALL of it sucks....
      I have to agree on this, but there's a way you use PLR to make money, and it's not by throwing the stock sales page on a domain and trying to charge what that page says the price is.

      Keep in mind that the stock sales page of that product isn't really designed to sell the product. It's designed to sell YOU the PLR to that product.

      I do have some pretty damn good PLR stuff hanging around, and I keep saying I'm going to put up a membership site (I've gotten around to buying the domain), but I just haven't gotten to it yet. In fact, I just joined a new PLR club yesterday, and have been busily digging through their gigs of stuff looking for gems.
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  • Profile picture of the author VegasGreg
    Back when eBay allowed ebooks in their auctions, I saw one seller that used "stock sales letters" and didn't change the "Insert Whatever" lines all through the page.

    He had several listings all with the errors/oversights/idiotness.

    I got a good laugh out of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    Speaking of PLR, does anyone know where I can get a good ebook on the subject of teaching, that will show me how to achieve the garden and landscaping (sic) of my dreams?

    Been looking everywhere for one.
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    PLR does suck. if it is left untouched as you point out C.

    Yes Jani has the formula but I personally only use PLR stuff to help teach product creation and I then can turn it into software

    PLR is so rehashed unless you belong to a site that is constantly updated with fresh content your behind the times. Sometimes I use a plr product as a guide and write or produce accordingly. but more often then not unless you change things drastically you are just rehashing the same crap and not really giving value to your customer lots of them will just be po'd with you.

    There is a lot of work involved but the end results can be thousands or millions to you. not to mention it helps establish you as an authority and presence in the marketplace.

    Kind Regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    There is a lot of crappy PLR out there. Usually I find that the crappiness is in relation to the price I pay.

    But there is a lot of really good stuff out there too so when you find a provider that gives good quality you gotta stick with them.

    The problem is you have to wade through the crap sometimes to find the good stuff.

    I had one that I used to buy PLR from, the ebooks were really good but they used the sames sales letter over and over again and just replaced some of the words to be related to the book.

    The thing was that they always forgot to replace this one line that talked about the great "knitting instructions" the buyer would be getting! No matter what the topic of the book the knitting line was there! Probably the same guy that made your garden and landscaping letter!

    Lee
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Here's my Reader's Digest version of what you should do with PLR.

      1. Completely rewrite the book.
      2. Get another sales page written.
      3. Get new graphics made.
      4. Get or create new relevant bonuses to include with the product.
      5. Create MP3 and/or video versions of the product.
      6. Give out free copies of the product and get NEW testimonials.
      7. Increase price significantly.

      That is what you do with PLR.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alminc
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Here's my Reader's Digest version of what you should do with PLR.

        1. Completely rewrite the book.
        + add some new content and images
        2. Get another sales page written.
        3. Get new graphics made.
        4. Get or create new relevant bonuses to include with the product.
        5. Create MP3 and/or video versions of the product. (optional)
        6. Give out free copies of the product and get NEW testimonials.
        7. Increase price significantly.

        That is what you do with PLR.
        Yes Steven, that would be way to go with PLR ebooks.
        If outsourced, it would cost about 50-60% of the price
        for the completely new ebook created from scratch.

        I have reworked several good PLR ebooks in that way,
        but they still sleep on my hard drive because I cannot
        deside how to sell them.

        Any suggesstions?
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Originally Posted by Alminc View Post

          Yes Steven, that would be way to go with PLR ebooks.
          If outsourced, it would cost about 50-60% of the price
          for the completely new ebook created from scratch.

          I have reworked several good PLR ebooks in that way,
          but they still sleep on my hard drive because I cannot
          deside how to sell them.

          Any suggesstions?
          You would sell them the same way you would sell your own product or
          any other product for that matter. Just because it is PLR doesn't make it
          any different.

          Oh, perhaps I forgot to mention...you should also rename the product as
          well.
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          • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
            You could also sell your reworked PLR as... PLR!

            Then you don't have to actually be able to sell it on
            market demand.

            Realistically, have you tried re-writing and then reading
            the product as an audio? Reformatting can be useful -
            you can sell the audio as PLR I suppose - but the real
            power of moving an infoproduct to audio, video, or
            interactive format is you can attract a different set
            of customers. Personally I think there are a lot of people
            out there who basically can't read very well so they
            prefer other media formats. They might be dyslexic,
            blind, illiterate, lazy, want to listen in the car, and
            so forth.
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            • Profile picture of the author Alminc
              Selling those reworked PLR ebooks as PLR is exactly what
              I was thinking about. Something in Edmund Loh's style,
              create a package of 5 or 10 ebooks and sell them for
              $97 or $147 through JV launch.
              So far I have 3 such ebooks completely reworked, so
              I need at least 2 more for such project.
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              • Profile picture of the author Alminc
                I was thinking about including audio version but
                the problem is english is not my native language
                and I wouldn't sound very professional. Hiring
                a voice over tallent is quite expensive on the other
                hand.
                I paid about $200 for rewriting 11000 words ebook,
                $197 for sales letter and $97 for graphics. So that's
                already about $500 for one ebook. Outsourcing audio
                version would add another few hundrads.
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    HAHAHAHA that is classic Lee hehehehe sales letters get included but .did they do they convert? makes me wonder a lot I have some that just seem ridiculous background sucks to high heaven and text is all weird but it was included in reseller kit. LOL

    Thanks for the laugh
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    Not all PLR sucks, it depends on who writes it.

    The problem with a lot of the PLR is it has been around for years and people are now re-releasing it without making any changes because they think people won't know the difference.

    We were sent a PLR which was on computing, and I gave it to Rob to look at as he worked in IT. He said it was OK but the problem was the material was 4 years out of date, and that was 2 years ago. The book has just made its way back into the market.

    Because of the problems of most PLR being written and sold to wholesalers, and much of it is from rehased PLR we decided to write our own PLR.

    I saw a wso yesterday which is selling PLR and they are the exact titles of some which I bought 3 years ago. Many warriors selling PLR are only using PLR they bought/got from membership sites.

    There is a market for good PLR but you have to be careful where you buy it from.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I buy quality PLR packages. One thing I will not do is pay a membership fee to buy PLR products. I will pay for the products if they are quality products. Just posted these in another thread ... two that I use and like alot.

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  • Profile picture of the author therealdeal
    Some is crap and some is absolutely fantastic!
    Totally agree that rebranding is the way to go..

    Pick and choose... But yeah that post was funnier than shxxx LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
    For fear of blowing my own trumpet here, this is exactly why I produce QUALITY PLR for my buyers. They love it, because they don't have to rewrite it.

    Sure, they can rebrand it, but that's the FUN part. If you're gonna rewrite PLR, you might as well go and find out what people really want to learn and start from scratch.

    My recent WSO is selling PLR and people are messaging me saying how they can't believe how good the quality is.

    Stimulate Economy = Provide more value than you charge for it.

    Sadly, most PLR businesses are lazy, not all, but most. They want to crank out quantative junk to the masses and rely on a low refund rate (same goes for a lot of online marketing businesses actually).
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    • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
      with all due respect that is not PLR that I don't know what that would be but the whole purpose of PLR is to have your own product once changed.

      Basically you are saying I create such good stuff it doesn't need to be edited. then it is your product not theirs
      congratulations on your efforts but this makes no sense except to plug yourself

      Originally Posted by Nick Brighton View Post

      For fear of blowing my own trumpet here, this is exactly why I produce QUALITY PLR for my buyers. They love it, because they don't have to rewrite it.

      Sure, they can rebrand it, but that's the FUN part. If you're gonna rewrite PLR, you might as well go and find out what people really want to learn and start from scratch.

      My recent WSO is selling PLR and people are messaging me saying how they can't believe how good the quality is.

      Stimulate Economy = Provide more value than you charge for it.

      Sadly, most PLR businesses are lazy, not all, but most. They want to crank out quantative junk to the masses and rely on a low refund rate (same goes for a lot of online marketing businesses actually).
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    Alminc don't you run a plr site?

    market it to your membrs special members only discount x amount of ebooks never before released for x dollars grab your copy today as these are limited to x amount of people
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Buildingfutures View Post

      Obviously sir, when you joined my membership site you did not read all of the fine print. I never said this would be TOTALLY unique PLR, nor did I say that I wouldn't be spying on you through your webcam via a worm in the files you downloaded.

      Now, I'm tired of your attempts at shaming my name, I'm going back to watching your TV through your webcam.

      Good night to you sir!

      -Sean
      Sean, if you are watching the same porn movie I'm watching, that's not his TV. It's a window...
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    The problem with PLR, as you know if you've bought
    much of it, is that it may start off selling for $100 from
    the creator, but a couple of months later it's being sold
    for $1 by people who can't market. Massive devaluation
    means I seldom buy PLR unless I have a clear plan for
    reworking and using it for a specific end-market - selling
    the content to a retail user or giving it away to generate
    traffic or entice subscribers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alminc
      Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye View Post

      The problem with PLR, as you know if you've bought
      much of it, is that it may start off selling for $100 from
      the creator, but a couple of months later it's being sold
      for $1 by people who can't market.
      Yes, that's why PLR ebooks must be renamed, completely
      rewritten, extended with some new content and dressed
      in new graphics. Plus new sales letter. Otherwise there is
      almost no chance to profit from them, unless you can sell
      them to your big list 45 minutes after you obtained them.
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      • Profile picture of the author BerkleyStreet
        - Any thoughts on what to do with the AUDIO that is already included with the PLR package. Would you consider those a "throwaway". I figure if I rewrite -rebrand - etc. then the audio doesn't really match the product anymore. Throw in as a related "bonus" maybe?
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
          If the audio is from the original PLR you purchased there is not too much you can do with it, except throw it away, unfortunately. Then record your new and much better version.
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    • Profile picture of the author JR Rich
      Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye View Post

      The problem with PLR, as you know if you've bought
      much of it, is that it may start off selling for $100 from
      the creator, but a couple of months later it's being sold
      for $1 by people who can't market. Massive devaluation
      means I seldom buy PLR unless I have a clear plan for
      reworking and using it for a specific end-market - selling
      the content to a retail user or giving it away to generate
      traffic or entice subscribers.
      Yes. The problem with most PLR is that it consists of - basically - little more than a re-hashed ebook. This is understandable (from a product-creation standpoint) as ebooks are the easiest products to create. Heck, they don't even have to be all that accurate to sell!

      Most PLR products I've dealt with over the years seem to fall into the 17-35 page category (including two pages of lawyer stuff and a blank last page), are double-spaced, and have the grammatical correctness of a Freshman High School students' first term paper.

      A true, pro PLR creator stands out in this crowd like a rose in Antarctica...
      • Quality content
      • Ebook formatted with true desktop software - not MS Word
      • Accompanying articles
      • Accompanying emails
      • Videos
      • Audios
      • Graphics
      • Sales pages
      ...All done with professional standards and attention to detail.

      Unfortunately, you just don't see many of these floating around.

      Ideally, as stated in the quote above, you want to re-purpose your PLR for your needs, but you want to be able to do it with the least amount of time invested.

      That's the purpose of PLR after all!

      Regards,
      JR Rich
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Killops
    Most PLR does suck if left as is. Like a few others have pointed out use PLR as a guide to create your own product and you will have much better success.

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