Dedicated Server or VPS?

by jbode
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hey warriors

what do you recommend a dedicated server, VPS hosting...

here's what I'm planning to do...

I'm planning to run a few JV giveaways, host a large email list using auto-response plus (self hosted autoresponder service), plus a hand full of sites, some rolling product launches and several videos to download and/or watch

what dedicated server or VPS do you recommend, and why?
(please only respond if you have experience)
#dedicated #server #vps
  • Profile picture of the author RGallowitz
    I just closed one of my dedicated servers and went for the new level 7 hostgator VPS plan. They have awesome VPS plans and my website performances are exactly the same. You can just go with a level 3 and still have WAY more than you need.

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    • Profile picture of the author Danny Keegan
      Originally Posted by RGallowitz View Post

      I just closed one of my dedicated servers and went for the new level 7 hostgator VPS plan. They have awesome VPS plans and my website performances are exactly the same. You can just go with a level 3 and still have WAY more than you need.

      Check it out here:
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      That's good to know, I was looking at using a hostgator vps for my upcoming membership site.

      I take it upgrading to a dedicated server if needed at a later date would be fairly straight forward?

      Cheers,
      Danny.
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  • Profile picture of the author mahesh2k
    Slicehost,Cirtexhosting and Wiredtree have some good VPS packages. I used wiredtree services for one of my friend's setup. And i can say for 44$ managed VPS deal is good.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Mensah
      Originally Posted by mahesh2k View Post

      Slicehost,Cirtexhosting and Wiredtree have some good VPS packages. I used wiredtree services for one of my friend's setup. And i can say for 44$ managed VPS deal is good.

      I definiatly agree with mahesh...Wiredtree has a pretty good vps package and they are reliable!
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian Tayler
    I have used ServerMatrix/ThePlanet for about 6 years now for dedicated servers. Simply amazing and reliable. I don't think I'd ever accept anything less.
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  • Profile picture of the author robrudd
    Well unless you think you are going to use lots of bandwidth, I would go with a VPS as I have had a few dedicated servers and dont even come close to choking them out.
    VPS are close to the power, usually same or more diskspace and bandwidth and 1/8 the price.
    hey jbode small world i just signed up with your newletter 3 weeks back.
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    • Profile picture of the author DogScout
      Originally Posted by robrudd View Post

      Well unless you think you are going to use lots of bandwidth, I would go with a VPS as I have had a few dedicated servers and dont even come close to choking them out.
      VPS are close to the power, usually same or more diskspace and bandwidth and 1/8 the price.
      hey jbode small world i just signed up with your newletter 3 weeks back.
      it isn't the bandwidth, it is the CPU usage that would be the main difference. If you run aps that suck CPU usage (Like importing article directory data bases, etc) and affect other customers on a VPS, you'll hear about it. As long as you are not doing anything to spike the CPU a VPS is as good.
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      • Profile picture of the author Brian Tayler
        Originally Posted by DogScout View Post

        it isn't the bandwidth, it is the CPU usage that would be the main difference. If you run aps that suck CPU usage (Like importing article directory data bases, etc) and affect other customers on a VPS, you'll hear about it. As long as you are not doing anything to spike the CPU a VPS is as good.
        Exactly. Throughput (bandwidth) isn't really a resource hog on a system... so pushing data (a lot of data) through a VPS isn't going to slow the server much.

        Also depending on how the VPS is setup another issue is hacking. With other people using the VPS (under their own virtual environment) they could cause the server to get hacked or all CPU resources to be bogged down (causing YOUR stuff to slow down). All because of an inexperienced admin installing buggy or vulnerable software.

        In my mind, if you're doing this "for real" cutting expenses really shouldn't be an option. If you go for a big launch on a day one of the other users on your VPS causes the server to get bogged down and crash... all you will get from the host is an "oops sorry." It's much easier for me to stomach a server crash/hack because of my own errors rather than some stranger I never met nor do I know anything about.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    VPS is great..I have one at LiquidWeb for $40/mth that kicks the pants off Hostgator Level 3. With VPS, you get tons of power...but for a dedicated mailer, I'm pretty sure you're going to need a Dedicated host to get a reverse pointer record in DNS for your IP. Can't recall too well these days.
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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    Plus most VPS packages include maintained by the company and with most dedicated servers you are on your own without paying a lot extra for a maintained option.
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  • Profile picture of the author rondo
    Start with a medium to high level managed VPS and then you can always upgrade to a dedicated server if you need to.

    There are some good VPS deals around at the moment offering 15-50% off:
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  • Profile picture of the author jbode
    Thanks everyone - I appreciate it!

    I'll probably go with VPS hosting, just waiting on ARP to see if they need a dedicated server to collect IPs (I don't think they do)...

    Now I have to look at my current hosting stats and find out what I need

    thanks again!
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  • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
    just waiting on ARP to see if they need a dedicated server to collect IPs
    Nope - you can use shared, VPS or dedicated.

    Cheers,

    Neil
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  • Profile picture of the author adsquare
    I am another voucher for LiquidWeb, they're great.

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    • Profile picture of the author MikeHumphreys
      Originally Posted by adsquare View Post

      I am another voucher for LiquidWeb, they're great.

      Jared
      I've had a VPS with LiquidWeb for about a year now and they are simply awesome. Lightening fast tech support and ultra-reliable too. I can't say enough nice things about them. Highly recommend them.

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      • Profile picture of the author Eric Boo
        I am looking for a VPS solution and this thread definitely helps. Never heard of Liquidweb, and so now I'm trying to find out more about them.

        Currently using Hostgator.
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        • Profile picture of the author 1nspire
          +rep for wiredtree.

          I have been using wiredtree for over a year and I could not be any happier. Every ticket I have sent has been responded to in minutes not hours and not days. Polite and will help you make the transition between shared to a vps server. if you compare apples to apples wiredtree is very competitive with the pricing. If I am not mistaken wiredtree is a sister company to liquid web.

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  • Profile picture of the author GazD
    For what you are doing I would say a VPS should handle it just fine, and be cheaper than going with a dedi.
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  • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
    I've been with Liquid Web for years with a dedicated server. Their service and support is excellent.

    For what it's worth, I've run zillions of campaigns using AutoResponse Plus from that server and have had no problems whatsoever.

    Cheers,

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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Lindsay
    Whichever way you decide to go, make sure you at least have a dedicated IP and that your chosen ISP can set up a reverse address pointer record for your IP.

    Without this in place your self hosted Auto Responder will have email deliverability issues to a growing number of ISPs (i.e. A large number of ISPs out there will simply reject your emails so they will never reach the recipients!).
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  • Profile picture of the author Groovy99
    vps systems are easy to manage and cost less than dedicated servers in most circumstances. Check the bandwidth limits on whatever you choose. If you fit inside it comfortably for your monthly traffic, you will usually be ok.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Powers
    I think it depends on your budget and your requirement.It can't be concluded in several words.First,you should ascertain what you want and what cost you can accept.Then make a choice.VPS is a transition between shared web hosting and dedicated web hosting.After all,dedicated hosting is so expensive.And you have to spend about $200 per month.That's a big amount if your business is not very big.
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  • Profile picture of the author ziya
    If you are looking large amount of space, Dedicated server is best, else VPS is ok for you then no need to go for dedicated server.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    HERE, I will make it simple for you!

    The REAL meaning of both, as often implemented. READY!?!?

    1. Dedicated means DEDICATED! That means, by definition and standard use, You get 100% of EVERYTHING! Disk, CPU, RAM, bandwidth allocated to the box/blade.

    2. VPS means VIRTUAL private server! That means, by definition, that you may NOT get 100% of ANYTHING! By standard use, it is a SHARED system! The ONLY difference is that it LOOKS like it is dedicated. You APPEAR to get root access. Programs that require root access should run, etc.... Otherwise, it is SHARED!

    SO, if you figure VPS is fine, and you don't need root access, a shared system might even be BETTER for you because someone else will manage it and it will cost less.

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    $60 for cpanel VPS, 704MB ram from solarvps..and i have A LOT of resource hogging autoblogs and whatnot on that single VPS. You can squeeze in a lot if you optimize your blogs (wp-super cache...) and optimize MySQL.

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    a shared system might even be BETTER for you because someone else will manage it and it will cost less.
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    Shared systems like your typical hostgator/godaddy are bad...it happened a few times already i got suspended since some plugins or code used a little too much CPU...this is 100% unacceptable. The big advantage of the VPS is i have full control over everything. Its an extreme difference and really not in the same boat as your average hostdaddy hosting.

    And yes that "someone ELSE manages it" can also mean they cut you off for whatever reasons.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      $60 for cpanel VPS, 704MB ram from solarvps..and i have A LOT of resource hogging autoblogs and whatnot on that single VPS. You can squeeze in a lot if you optimize your blogs (wp-super cache...) and optimize MySQL.

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      a shared system might even be BETTER for you because someone else will manage it and it will cost less.
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      Shared systems like your typical hostgator/godaddy are bad...it happened a few times already i got suspended since some plugins or code used a little too much CPU...this is 100% unacceptable. The big advantage of the VPS is i have full control over everything. Its an extreme difference and really not in the same boat as your average hostdaddy hosting.

      And yes that "someone ELSE manages it" can also mean they cut you off for whatever reasons.
      Well, I bet you find that even some VPS systems are bogged down and that they may cut you off.

      Steve
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