Someone Explain Affiliate Article Marketing to Me

by TiffanyLambert 36 replies
Hi Warriors!

I get article marketing.

What I don't get is how to navigate the EZA rules for affiliate marketing.

I can't put a hoplink in my resource box - or can I?

I KNOW I can't do something like tiffanydow.com/recommends/CBproduct or whatever.

So my question is...

If I want to begin heavily article marketing on EZA specifically (not another site - might as well get my premium's worth), so I have to buy and redirect a domain for each and every PRODUCT I'm promoting?

ie: (these are not my real domains): diet101.com redirects to promote burn the fat feed the muscle, then dietips.com redirects to another Cb product, etc. The domain names that I put in my resource box are mine.

Is this how you do it? Seems you'd have to manage a whole bunch of domains.
tiff
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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    Yes Tiff... that's the way...

    It is a pain sometimes to manage multiple domains, but it is worth it if you are planning to do it en masse with articles..

    Peace

    Jay

    p.s. That Kelly chick ain't got nuthn on ya do you have any 125 x 125 banners for that paydotcom product of yours?.. I couldn't see any in the back office bit in PDC
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    • Profile picture of the author Tuzic
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      hi,

      yes thats exactly how it works but its very worthwhile for you & best way to market.
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  • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
    I use sub-domains. affiliateproduct.mydomain.com Then redirect to the affiliate website.

    Edit: looking at their TOS - looks like that aint right for EZA. Must make sure I don't do that anymore if I'm using article marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Tiff, here is what I do and it works very well for me.

      1. I set up a blog with a review of the product I am selling. I then include an
      affiliate link at the end of the review.

      2. I send people from the resource box to the blog review with a strong
      call to action.

      It's very effective if you do it right.
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      • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Tiff, here is what I do and it works very well for me.

        1. I set up a blog with a review of the product I am selling. I then include an
        affiliate link at the end of the review.

        2. I send people from the resource box to the blog review with a strong
        call to action.

        It's very effective if you do it right.
        Whilst that IS very effective Steve.. there are some niche's where I have found that extra step to be a pain in the rear and only serves as an exit hole for the floppy minded traffic...

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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

          Whilst that IS very effective Steve.. there are some niche's where I have found that extra step to be a pain in the rear and only serves as an exit hole for the floppy minded traffic...

          Peace

          Jay
          Yeah Jay, it depends on the niche. Some, I send them to a squeeze page
          to generate a list. Others I send directly to my sales page (can't do it
          with affiliate products without a redirect). It all depends on what I'm
          selling.

          That's why there is no one size fits all for this business.
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          • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            That's why there is no one size fits all for this business.
            VERY true Steve

            Jay
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          • Profile picture of the author TiffanyLambert
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            Yeah Jay, it depends on the niche. Some, I send them to a squeeze page
            to generate a list. Others I send directly to my sales page (can't do it
            with affiliate products without a redirect). It all depends on what I'm
            selling.

            That's why there is no one size fits all for this business.

            Shoot. Forgot about the importance of list building. hmmmm
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      • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Tiff, here is what I do and it works very well for me.

        1. I set up a blog with a review of the product I am selling. I then include an
        affiliate link at the end of the review.

        2. I send people from the resource box to the blog review with a strong
        call to action.

        It's very effective if you do it right.
        This is exactly what I do - and it can be the difference between a 1% conversion and a 10% conversion. Seriously, if you can write a good presell you're actually throwing money away by just doing redirects.

        I know that Jay said it can be a pain in the rear creating sites (and it really can) but I would see it as a waste to submit an article to EZA and NOT be sending traffic to one of my own sites. It's worth more to me to add to my VRE than to send traffic direct to the merchants site or to a free blog or Squidoo. I nearly always use hosted wordpress.
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        • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
          Originally Posted by Hamida Pall View Post

          This is exactly what I do - and it can be the difference between a 1% conversion and a 10% conversion. Seriously, if you can write a good presell you're actually throwing money away by just doing redirects.

          I know that Jay said it can be a pain in the rear creating sites (and it really can) but I would see it as a waste to submit an article to EZA and NOT be sending traffic to one of my own sites. It's worth more to me to add to my VRE than to send traffic direct to the merchants site or to a free blog or Squidoo. I nearly always use hosted wordpress.
          I didn't say it's a pain in the rear creating sites... I said it's a pain in the rear sending traffic to a free blogger blog sometimes, which is what Steve meant by his post.... because it can leak traffic at times in some niches.

          personally I would much prefer sending them to a hosted site of my own.

          Peace

          Jay
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Fletcher
    I'm pretty sure you can just use subdomains for it. Still a pain to manage but a lot better than shelling out for so many domains.
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  • Profile picture of the author TiffanyLambert
    Okay, so...

    1.) I buy a domain and just redirect per product.

    or

    2.) I get a blog for the niche and write a post about the product. Let's say burn the fat feed the muscle.It might say www.dietsite.com/btfftmreview - but EZA doesn't allow links with stuff after the / do they? I'm so confused. sorry.

    I think I'll just buy up some domains, pick some kick butt products, and tyr it out. I can always do something else with the domain later if my efforts don't add up.
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  • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
    Steve - does a blog count as a "link from the top-level of a domain name you own"? Quote from TOS
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    • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
      Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

      Steve - does a blog count as a "link from the top-level of a domain name you own"? Quote from TOS
      Yup... a blogger blog is good for this

      Jay
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        • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
          Originally Posted by alexa_s View Post

          Hi Jay

          When you say "a blogger blog is good for this", do you mean that you can do it just with "jayblog.blogspot.com" without a domain? Or that you need to register "jayblog.com" which is either hosted somewhere and has a blogger blog sitting on it, or isn't actually hosted anywhere but just points to "jayblog.blogspot.com"?
          Hey you how are ya ... nope... jayblog.blogspot.com is fine... hosted on blogger..

          Squidoo lenses are also okay too

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          Jay
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            • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
              Originally Posted by alexa_s View Post

              Really? So, just to clarify: you can do for example clickbank affiliate marketing and promote each product by EZA article marketing linking to a free blogger blog where you do your pre-sell and link to your clickbank affiliate link, without actually needing to buy any domains at all? Or have I still misunderstood? Sorry, I do realise this must be an incredible basic question for this place.
              That is asbolutely, one hundred percent, positively correct dear.. and worry not about it.. no need to apologise..

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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Brian
    As far as I know you can do example.com/subpage.html as long as it is not a redirect. You can then put your aff link as a link only at example.com/subpage.html. You cannot have a redirect script in that page. I saw a lot of articles from EZA just doing this.
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  • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
    Thanks Jay. I'm more confused than ever now!! I've contacted EZA for clarification. Didn't mention anything at all about this forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author SuzanneH
    This is what I don't understand about article marketing with ezinearticles.com: aren't you only allowed 3 author resource boxes? How could you point to more than three different domain names then? Do y'all go with different pen names and then get 3 more resource boxes?

    Inquiring minds want to know! :-)

    Suzanne
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by SuzanneH View Post

      This is what I don't understand about article marketing with ezinearticles.com: aren't you only allowed 3 author resource boxes? How could you point to more than three different domain names then? Do y'all go with different pen names and then get 3 more resource boxes?

      Inquiring minds want to know! :-)

      Suzanne
      They only allow you to store 3 author resource boxes in their system, but
      you can type anything you want manually in that box if you so choose.

      I have about 25 such resource boxes that I just copy and paste depending
      on the niche and article.
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      • Profile picture of the author SuzanneH
        Aha! I thought you could only use those 3. Well, that's good to know.

        Thanks, Steve!

        Suzanne

        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        They only allow you to store 3 author resource boxes in their system, but
        you can type anything you want manually in that box if you so choose.

        I have about 25 such resource boxes that I just copy and paste depending
        on the niche and article.
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  • Profile picture of the author kevin campbelle
    Originally Posted by TiffanyDow View Post

    Hi Warriors!

    I get article marketing.

    What I don't get is how to navigate the EZA rules for affiliate marketing.

    I can't put a hoplink in my resource box - or can I?

    I KNOW I can't do something like tiffanydow.com/recommends/CBproduct or whatever.

    So my question is...

    If I want to begin heavily article marketing on EZA specifically (not another site - might as well get my premium's worth), so I have to buy and redirect a domain for each and every PRODUCT I'm promoting?

    ie: (these are not my real domains): diet101.com redirects to promote burn the fat feed the muscle, then dietips.com redirects to another Cb product, etc. The domain names that I put in my resource box are mine.

    Is this how you do it? Seems you'd have to manage a whole bunch of domains.
    tiff
    If you are doing a straight redirect then you have to use a top level domain. You can use tiffanydow.com/recommends/CBproduct but when you click on that link it must go to a page with some information and in that page you can have an affiliate link to the actual product. You cannot click that link and have it redirected to the actual product directly.

    You can also have blogger blogs, squidoo lens [] and hubpages with information (an article or review etc) on it that contains a link to the affiliate product.

    You can't put a hoplink in your resource box.

    So if you want the visitor to click the link and go directly to the merchant's product page you have to use a TLD for the immediate redirect. Anything else would have to be a page, blog, lens etc with info on it and then that can contain a link, banner, graphic etc to the affiliate product.

    Kevin.
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  • Profile picture of the author TiffanyLambert
    k. One more good tip Peggy gave me - use cheaper .info domains, etc - if you're just using them for redirects.
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  • Profile picture of the author NoBoss
    Tiffany...

    Chris over at EZA doesn't really like Affiliate redirects but
    allows the exception for top level domains.

    He recently verbally frowned on any affiliate marketer
    that couldn't invest at least $8 bucks for a TLD.

    And yes, we use lots of .info domains. $2.98 at
    Namecheap.com. (With free Privacy bonus)

    ...Doug
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      Tiffany, I like to set up my marketing campaigns the following way.

      1. pick a product
      2. Buy a top level domain
      3. Send traffic to the redirect so I can see how the sales page converts
      4. If conversion sucks - find a new product and repeat 1-3
      5. If conversion is good - Make my own site and start building backlinks to take advantage of organic traffic
      6. continue sending traffic through the redirect until I get good rankings with the site I built
      7. Start over again
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      • Profile picture of the author TiffanyLambert
        Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

        Tiffany, I like to set up my marketing campaigns the following way.

        1. pick a product
        2. Buy a top level domain
        3. Send traffic to the redirect so I can see how the sales page converts
        4. If conversion sucks - find a new product and repeat 1-3
        5. If conversion is good - Make my own site and start building backlinks to take advantage of organic traffic
        6. continue sending traffic through the redirect until I get good rankings with the site I built
        7. Start over again
        Good plan can you clarify something for me?

        When you say, "If conversion is good - Make my own site and start building backlinks to take advantage of organic traffic," do you begin building on that same domain? or do you buy a new one?

        I assume you buy a new one or else it wouljdn't build up being redirected. So then what do you do with the original one? Redirect it to your second domain or test out another product to promote?
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
          Originally Posted by TiffanyDow View Post

          Good plan can you clarify something for me?

          When you say, "If conversion is good - Make my own site and start building backlinks to take advantage of organic traffic," do you begin building on that same domain? or do you buy a new one?

          I assume you buy a new one or else it wouljdn't build up being redirected. So then what do you do with the original one? Redirect it to your second domain or test out another product to promote?
          tiff

          Usually the first domain that I use will be a cheap .info domain. If the sales page converts, I will then buy a second domain and build a website or a Squidoo Lens (You know how to build a squidoo lens, don't you )

          Once the webpage is up I will start building some links and doing some other SEO to try and get my visitor count per day to 100+ strictly from organic traffic. That traffic plus the traffic that continues to come in through my articles will be enough to get a couple of sales per day per product. Even if the conversion of the sales page is only 1:100 you still make out alright.
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  • Profile picture of the author Monetize
    Laziness is overtaking the industry and I predict that re-directs will
    eventually be disallowed because of all the abuse. I'd advise you to
    be prepared for this occurrence and start developing your affiliate
    marketing sites now.

    I also feel that you cannot go wrong with .com's because you can
    always sell those if you change direction and you can easily make
    your money back plus.

    Anyone who is in this business full-time should be able to afford to
    maintain enough .com's to cover their niches.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      It is not about being able to "afford" a .com domain...

      It is mainly set up as a test so why throw a couple hundred bucks away if you don't have to?

      Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

      Laziness is overtaking the industry and I predict that re-directs will
      eventually be disallowed because of all the abuse. I'd advise you to
      be prepared for this occurrence and start developing your affiliate
      marketing sites now.

      I also feel that you cannot go wrong with .com's because you can
      always sell those if you change direction and you can easily make
      your money back plus.

      Anyone who is in this business full-time should be able to afford to
      maintain enough .com's to cover their niches.
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      • Profile picture of the author NoBoss
        Monetize....

        For some of us....redirects have a useful place.
        A small place, but useful.

        And using .info domains also has their place. A
        small place, but useful.

        Has nothing to do with laziness or lack of funds as
        you seem to believe.

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        • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
          FYI, Tiffany...

          1and1.com is offering .biz domains for free (1st year), then they're $6.99 from the 2nd year on. I've got probably close to 50 of them in the last month and paid nada, zilch, zip.

          I use a reseller hosting acct. at HostGator ($25/month) for all of them. You get a simple control panel (WHM) that keeps all those domains under one roof. Management is super easy. That's the way to go for redirects at EZA.

          John
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          • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
            I asked Ezine for clarification as I was even more confused after reading this thread!! Here's their reply:

            "As long as they do not redirect to an affiliate site, both subdomains
            (page.mysite.com) and subfolders (mysite.com/page) are acceptable,
            provided these pages contain informational content as well as any
            affiliate links and/or advertising. "

            HTH
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            • Profile picture of the author Ram
              We only use articles to direct to a squeeze page where we get their name/email in exchange for a free report, etc.

              We can then sell through the report and by follow-up email.

              That's it. We never send traffic anywhere else but a squeeze page. Ever.

              Cheers,
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              • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
                What I normally do for affiliate products is set up a free blog at blogger.com and then on my EZA I write it in such a way that leads through to the blog.

                Almost like the article has 2 parts although I don't think you are allowed to submit an article to EZA that says "How To Write Articles - Part 1", although you can write it in such a way so the EZA address the problem and then the article you put on your blog has the solution with your affiliate link.

                Always worked well for me.

                Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author drkellogs
    Ideally you'd want a specific site for each product you're promoting.

    I just set up different blogs for each one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Franck Silvestre
    All the suggestions above were great.

    You do need to get your own domain name. You can use free blogs as well, but since your articles are going to be there for long, it's better to be sure that your domain are going to be "live".

    I've seen a top author with more than 400 articles, and all the link were leading to error page. Yup! Better to take your precautions.

    For me, I prefer to send people to a lead capture page, then once I'm ready to get a product one, I just send it to them.
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