Someone Explain Affiliate Article Marketing to Me

18 years ago

Yes Tiff... that's the way...

It is a pain sometimes to manage multiple domains, but it is worth it if you are planning to do it en masse with articles..

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p.s. That Kelly chick ain't got nuthn on ya

do you have any 125 x 125 banners for that paydotcom product of yours?.. I couldn't see any in the back office bit in PDC

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Tuzic Banned 18 years ago

hi,

yes thats exactly how it works but its very worthwhile for you & best way to market.
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rosetrees

18 years ago

I use sub-domains. affiliateproduct.mydomain.com Then redirect to the affiliate website.

Edit: looking at their TOS - looks like that aint right for EZA. Must make sure I don't do that anymore if I'm using article marketing.

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Steven Wagenheim

18 years ago

Tiff, here is what I do and it works very well for me.

1. I set up a blog with a review of the product I am selling. I then include an
affiliate link at the end of the review.

2. I send people from the resource box to the blog review with a strong
call to action.

It's very effective if you do it right.

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JayXtreme

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Tiff, here is what I do and it works very well for me.

1. I set up a blog with a review of the product I am selling. I then include an
affiliate link at the end of the review.

2. I send people from the resource box to the blog review with a strong
call to action.

It's very effective if you do it right.

Whilst that IS very effective Steve.. there are some niche's where I have found that extra step to be a pain in the rear and only serves as an exit hole for the floppy minded traffic...

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Jay

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Steven Wagenheim

18 years ago

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

Whilst that IS very effective Steve.. there are some niche's where I have found that extra step to be a pain in the rear and only serves as an exit hole for the floppy minded traffic...

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Jay

Yeah Jay, it depends on the niche. Some, I send them to a squeeze page
to generate a list. Others I send directly to my sales page (can't do it
with affiliate products without a redirect). It all depends on what I'm
selling.

That's why there is no one size fits all for this business.

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JayXtreme 18 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

That's why there is no one size fits all for this business.

VERY true Steve

Jay
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TiffanyLambert

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Yeah Jay, it depends on the niche. Some, I send them to a squeeze page
to generate a list. Others I send directly to my sales page (can't do it
with affiliate products without a redirect). It all depends on what I'm
selling.

That's why there is no one size fits all for this business.

Shoot. Forgot about the importance of list building. hmmmm

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Hamida Harland

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Tiff, here is what I do and it works very well for me.

1. I set up a blog with a review of the product I am selling. I then include an
affiliate link at the end of the review.

2. I send people from the resource box to the blog review with a strong
call to action.

It's very effective if you do it right.

This is exactly what I do - and it can be the difference between a 1% conversion and a 10% conversion. Seriously, if you can write a good presell you're actually throwing money away by just doing redirects.

I know that Jay said it can be a pain in the rear creating sites (and it really can) but I would see it as a waste to submit an article to EZA and NOT be sending traffic to one of my own sites. It's worth more to me to add to my VRE than to send traffic direct to the merchants site or to a free blog or Squidoo. I nearly always use hosted wordpress.

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JayXtreme

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Hamida Pall

This is exactly what I do - and it can be the difference between a 1% conversion and a 10% conversion. Seriously, if you can write a good presell you're actually throwing money away by just doing redirects.

I know that Jay said it can be a pain in the rear creating sites (and it really can) but I would see it as a waste to submit an article to EZA and NOT be sending traffic to one of my own sites. It's worth more to me to add to my VRE than to send traffic direct to the merchants site or to a free blog or Squidoo. I nearly always use hosted wordpress.

I didn't say it's a pain in the rear creating sites... I said it's a pain in the rear sending traffic to a free blogger blog sometimes, which is what Steve meant by his post.... because it can leak traffic at times in some niches.

personally I would much prefer sending them to a hosted site of my own.

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Jay

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Andy Fletcher

18 years ago

I'm pretty sure you can just use subdomains for it. Still a pain to manage but a lot better than shelling out for so many domains.

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Christopher R Everson

18 years ago

GoDaddy has always been quick and easy for domain management and forwarding for me. Really the only time I can recommend using it.

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TiffanyLambert

18 years ago

Okay, so...

1.) I buy a domain and just redirect per product.

or

2.) I get a blog for the niche and write a post about the product. Let's say burn the fat feed the muscle.It might say www.dietsite.com/btfftmreview - but EZA doesn't allow links with stuff after the / do they? I'm so confused. sorry.

I think I'll just buy up some domains, pick some kick butt products, and tyr it out. I can always do something else with the domain later if my efforts don't add up.

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rosetrees

18 years ago

Steve - does a blog count as a "link from the top-level of a domain name you own"? Quote from TOS

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JayXtreme

18 years ago

Originally Posted by rosetrees

Steve - does a blog count as a "link from the top-level of a domain name you own"? Quote from TOS

Yup... a blogger blog is good for this

Jay

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JayXtreme

18 years ago

Originally Posted by alexa_s

Hi Jay

When you say "a blogger blog is good for this", do you mean that you can do it just with "jayblog.blogspot.com" without a domain? Or that you need to register "jayblog.com" which is either hosted somewhere and has a blogger blog sitting on it, or isn't actually hosted anywhere but just points to "jayblog.blogspot.com"?

Hey you how are ya

... nope... jayblog.blogspot.com is fine... hosted on blogger..

Squidoo lenses are also okay too

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Jay

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JayXtreme

18 years ago

Originally Posted by alexa_s

Really? So, just to clarify: you can do for example clickbank affiliate marketing and promote each product by EZA article marketing linking to a free blogger blog where you do your pre-sell and link to your clickbank affiliate link, without actually needing to buy any domains at all? Or have I still misunderstood? Sorry, I do realise this must be an incredible basic question for this place.

That is asbolutely, one hundred percent, positively correct dear.. and worry not about it.. no need to apologise..

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Mark Brian

18 years ago

As far as I know you can do example.com/subpage.html as long as it is not a redirect. You can then put your aff link as a link only at example.com/subpage.html. You cannot have a redirect script in that page. I saw a lot of articles from EZA just doing this.

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rosetrees

18 years ago

Thanks Jay. I'm more confused than ever now!! I've contacted EZA for clarification. Didn't mention anything at all about this forum.

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SuzanneH

18 years ago

This is what I don't understand about article marketing with ezinearticles.com: aren't you only allowed 3 author resource boxes? How could you point to more than three different domain names then? Do y'all go with different pen names and then get 3 more resource boxes?

Inquiring minds want to know! :-)

Suzanne

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Steven Wagenheim

18 years ago

Originally Posted by SuzanneH

This is what I don't understand about article marketing with ezinearticles.com: aren't you only allowed 3 author resource boxes? How could you point to more than three different domain names then? Do y'all go with different pen names and then get 3 more resource boxes?

Inquiring minds want to know! :-)

Suzanne

They only allow you to store 3 author resource boxes in their system, but
you can type anything you want manually in that box if you so choose.

I have about 25 such resource boxes that I just copy and paste depending
on the niche and article.

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SuzanneH

18 years ago

Aha! I thought you could only use those 3. Well, that's good to know.

Thanks, Steve!

Suzanne

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

They only allow you to store 3 author resource boxes in their system, but
you can type anything you want manually in that box if you so choose.

I have about 25 such resource boxes that I just copy and paste depending
on the niche and article.

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kevin campbelle

18 years ago

Originally Posted by TiffanyDow

Hi Warriors!

I get article marketing.

What I don't get is how to navigate the EZA rules for affiliate marketing.

I can't put a hoplink in my resource box - or can I?

I KNOW I can't do something like tiffanydow.com/recommends/CBproduct or whatever.

So my question is...

If I want to begin heavily article marketing on EZA specifically (not another site - might as well get my premium's worth), so I have to buy and redirect a domain for each and every PRODUCT I'm promoting?

ie: (these are not my real domains): diet101.com redirects to promote burn the fat feed the muscle, then dietips.com redirects to another Cb product, etc. The domain names that I put in my resource box are mine.

Is this how you do it? Seems you'd have to manage a whole bunch of domains.
tiff

If you are doing a straight redirect then you have to use a top level domain. You can use tiffanydow.com/recommends/CBproduct but when you click on that link it must go to a page with some information and in that page you can have an affiliate link to the actual product. You cannot click that link and have it redirected to the actual product directly.

You can also have blogger blogs, squidoo lens [

] and hubpages with information (an article or review etc) on it that contains a link to the affiliate product.

You can't put a hoplink in your resource box.

So if you want the visitor to click the link and go directly to the merchant's product page you have to use a TLD for the immediate redirect. Anything else would have to be a page, blog, lens etc with info on it and then that can contain a link, banner, graphic etc to the affiliate product.

Kevin.

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TiffanyLambert

18 years ago

k. One more good tip Peggy gave me - use cheaper .info domains, etc - if you're just using them for redirects.

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NoBoss

18 years ago

Tiffany...

Chris over at EZA doesn't really like Affiliate redirects but
allows the exception for top level domains.

He recently verbally frowned on any affiliate marketer
that couldn't invest at least $8 bucks for a TLD.

And yes, we use lots of .info domains. $2.98 at
Namecheap.com. (With free Privacy bonus)

...Doug

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Jeremy Kelsall

18 years ago

Tiffany, I like to set up my marketing campaigns the following way.

1. pick a product
2. Buy a top level domain
3. Send traffic to the redirect so I can see how the sales page converts
4. If conversion sucks - find a new product and repeat 1-3
5. If conversion is good - Make my own site and start building backlinks to take advantage of organic traffic
6. continue sending traffic through the redirect until I get good rankings with the site I built
7. Start over again

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TiffanyLambert

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Tiffany, I like to set up my marketing campaigns the following way.

1. pick a product
2. Buy a top level domain
3. Send traffic to the redirect so I can see how the sales page converts
4. If conversion sucks - find a new product and repeat 1-3
5. If conversion is good - Make my own site and start building backlinks to take advantage of organic traffic
6. continue sending traffic through the redirect until I get good rankings with the site I built
7. Start over again

Good plan can you clarify something for me?

When you say, "If conversion is good - Make my own site and start building backlinks to take advantage of organic traffic," do you begin building on that same domain? or do you buy a new one?

I assume you buy a new one or else it wouljdn't build up being redirected. So then what do you do with the original one? Redirect it to your second domain or test out another product to promote?
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Jeremy Kelsall

18 years ago

Originally Posted by TiffanyDow

Good plan can you clarify something for me?

When you say, "If conversion is good - Make my own site and start building backlinks to take advantage of organic traffic," do you begin building on that same domain? or do you buy a new one?

I assume you buy a new one or else it wouljdn't build up being redirected. So then what do you do with the original one? Redirect it to your second domain or test out another product to promote?
tiff

Usually the first domain that I use will be a cheap .info domain. If the sales page converts, I will then buy a second domain and build a website or a Squidoo Lens (You know how to build a squidoo lens, don't you

)

Once the webpage is up I will start building some links and doing some other SEO to try and get my visitor count per day to 100+ strictly from organic traffic. That traffic plus the traffic that continues to come in through my articles will be enough to get a couple of sales per day per product. Even if the conversion of the sales page is only 1:100 you still make out alright.

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Monetize

18 years ago

Laziness is overtaking the industry and I predict that re-directs will
eventually be disallowed because of all the abuse. I'd advise you to
be prepared for this occurrence and start developing your affiliate
marketing sites now.

I also feel that you cannot go wrong with .com's because you can
always sell those if you change direction and you can easily make
your money back plus.

Anyone who is in this business full-time should be able to afford to
maintain enough .com's to cover their niches.

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Jeremy Kelsall

18 years ago

It is not about being able to "afford" a .com domain...

It is mainly set up as a test so why throw a couple hundred bucks away if you don't have to?

Originally Posted by Monetize

Laziness is overtaking the industry and I predict that re-directs will
eventually be disallowed because of all the abuse. I'd advise you to
be prepared for this occurrence and start developing your affiliate
marketing sites now.

I also feel that you cannot go wrong with .com's because you can
always sell those if you change direction and you can easily make
your money back plus.

Anyone who is in this business full-time should be able to afford to
maintain enough .com's to cover their niches.

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NoBoss 18 years ago

Monetize....

For some of us....redirects have a useful place.
A small place, but useful.

And using .info domains also has their place. A
small place, but useful.

Has nothing to do with laziness or lack of funds as
you seem to believe.

...Doug
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- Zeus66 18 years ago
  
  FYI, Tiffany...
  
  1and1.com is offering .biz domains for free (1st year), then they're $6.99 from the 2nd year on. I've got probably close to 50 of them in the last month and paid nada, zilch, zip.
  
  I use a reseller hosting acct. at HostGator ($25/month) for all of them. You get a simple control panel (WHM) that keeps all those domains under one roof. Management is super easy. That's the way to go for redirects at EZA.
  
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  rosetrees 18 years ago
  
  I asked Ezine for clarification as I was even more confused after reading this thread!! Here's their reply:
  
  "As long as they do not redirect to an affiliate site, both subdomains
  (page.mysite.com) and subfolders (mysite.com/page) are acceptable,
  provided these pages contain informational content as well as any
  affiliate links and/or advertising. "
  
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  Ram 18 years ago
  
  We only use articles to direct to a squeeze page where we get their name/email in exchange for a free report, etc.
  
  We can then sell through the report and by follow-up email.
  
  That's it. We never send traffic anywhere else but a squeeze page. Ever.
  
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  Chri5123 18 years ago
  
  What I normally do for affiliate products is set up a free blog at blogger.com and then on my EZA I write it in such a way that leads through to the blog.
  
  Almost like the article has 2 parts although I don't think you are allowed to submit an article to EZA that says "How To Write Articles - Part 1", although you can write it in such a way so the EZA address the problem and then the article you put on your blog has the solution with your affiliate link.
  
  Always worked well for me.
  
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drkellogs

18 years ago

Ideally you'd want a specific site for each product you're promoting.

I just set up different blogs for each one.

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Franck Silvestre

18 years ago

All the suggestions above were great.

You do need to get your own domain name. You can use free blogs as well, but since your articles are going to be there for long, it's better to be sure that your domain are going to be "live".

I've seen a top author with more than 400 articles, and all the link were leading to error page. Yup! Better to take your precautions.

For me, I prefer to send people to a lead capture page, then once I'm ready to get a product one, I just send it to them.

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