Membership Site Questions.. need Answers

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I originally planned on releasing a very long ebook on my specific photography niche. After some research and talking with friends I have now decided to put the content out as a membership site. I plan to take the content from the ebook and add lots of other features including videos and audio interviews. Now that you have some background here is what I would like to do:

I will be using Wordpress as my CMS and Paypal as payment (Still looking on a better deal for payment processor.. reccomendations?)

I would like to have a members only forum in addition to the members only area where the content will live. If I decide to keep Wishlist is there another way to make a members only forum?

I have narrowed down two membership site software options, Amember and Wishlist.

Now I hear wishlist is great and leaning towards it but the problems for me are lack of affiliate program. Can I just use Clickbank as payment processor and use their affiliate program? (Insert Advice)

As for the forum, I don't think Wishlist would protect the forum into a members only forum using the same log in info and that is where Amember shines.. But I also hear that is a plugin that costs extra to implement.

Thats it for now,

Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author dbarnum
    One place to turn for some help may be here:

    Membership Academy: Membership site software comparisons, reviews, forums and videos, start-up guide.

    (not my site nor an affiliate link, but good membership site info there, even free level stuff to get you going)
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  • Profile picture of the author Jim Symonds
    For payment processors I strongly recommend Alertpay. Especially if you plan to offer any MLM or pay plan with any leverage.

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  • Profile picture of the author nikolaaa
    I would choose DLguard and clickbank.
    With DLguard you can protect any script like worpdress and forum
    and with clickbank you have affiliate program.

    If you need any help setting this send me pm.
    I have a lot of experience setting and managing membership sites.

    Thanks,
    Nikola
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  • Profile picture of the author RGallowitz
    Wishlist and Clickbank is a good combination.

    Or you can use Wishlist with IDevaffiliate and then any payment processor of your choice.


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    • Profile picture of the author robw
      I just use Clickbank as payment processor and use their affiliate program? (Insert Advice)
      aMember has a free (I think) plugin for Clickbank - I use it on one of my sites and it works well.

      The only major limitation with Clickbank is the 99 payment limit, but if you are a monthly site, this is still 8 years...

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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Anderson
    1. Getting your own merchant account will save you on your discount rate over paypal. PayPal can be a good option but it also poses some problems because they have a notoriously unreliable IPN (just ask anyone who does significant volume with them).

    You may want to read this entire article I published on the subject which will give you a good education about PayPal's pros and cons:

    PayPal Standard Transactions and Support

    2. Choose the right business automation system to run your business. This will open more payment processor options and even additional sales funnel options and better affiliate management options. I would strongly suggest Nanacast. See independent reviews here:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...houghts-3.html

    Also see our WP membership plugin documentation here:

    http://nanacast.com/docs/member-lock.html

    3. You asked about forum integration with a membership site which you plan on creating in a Wordpress blog... by far the easiest and one of the best integrations of a forum into a wordpress membership is to use:

    Simpleress Forum

    It uses the same database as the blog so one login for everything.

    Originally Posted by RGallowitz View Post

    Wishlist and Clickbank is a good combination.
    Not really because the OP is seeking a better deal on payment processing than PayPal and clickbank costs more than 3x what paypal charges ie. 3% fee vs 9.9% fee on recurring charges or 7.5% on one time.



    Originally Posted by loubo44 View Post

    I originally planned on releasing a very long ebook on my specific photography niche. After some research and talking with friends I have now decided to put the content out as a membership site. I plan to take the content from the ebook and add lots of other features including videos and audio interviews. Now that you have some background here is what I would like to do:

    I will be using Wordpress as my CMS and Paypal as payment (Still looking on a better deal for payment processor.. reccomendations?)

    I would like to have a members only forum in addition to the members only area where the content will live. If I decide to keep Wishlist is there another way to make a members only forum?

    I have narrowed down two membership site software options, Amember and Wishlist.

    Now I hear wishlist is great and leaning towards it but the problems for me are lack of affiliate program. Can I just use Clickbank as payment processor and use their affiliate program? (Insert Advice)

    As for the forum, I don't think Wishlist would protect the forum into a members only forum using the same log in info and that is where Amember shines.. But I also hear that is a plugin that costs extra to implement.

    Thats it for now,

    Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author jonb
    I use Wishlist with the Simple Press forum plugin and they work great. Wishlist absolutely protects the forum and users don't need to re-log on.
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    • Profile picture of the author techtamers
      Do you want fast and easy or do you want to penny pinch?

      Fast and easy is Wishlist with Clickbank.

      Penny pinch is paypal - but then you have to set up an affiliate program like idev - etc etc etc Yes, clickbank charges higher fees - but they also manage your affiliate program, paying your affiliates. One less thing for you to do.

      Putting off launching your site in order to get a merchant account and set up new systems puts off generating revenue. Plus you'll also need to build an affiliate force on your own.

      Whatever you decide - move quickly. Load that first month's content, launch your site, then start loading month 2. Don't wait until you have it all "perfect" -

      Jeanette
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      • Profile picture of the author Josh Anderson
        Starting your operation and building your program in a system that you later regret is one of the biggest and most painful mistakes of online business.

        Make sure you make the right decision the first time.

        Also... what you describe as "penny pinching" is really an understatement.

        What you are talking about is potentially giving away 5.5-8% of your entire business.

        In a million dollar continuity operation where you recruited all your own affiliates that could be as much as $80,000 in lost revenue.

        PayPal and Merchant accounts will cost you 1.9%-3% + a $.35 per transaction fee generally... sometimes more if you are higher risk.

        Clickbank will cost you $7.5%-9.9% (on recurring) + a $1 per transaction fee.

        Compare that to having a partner that has a 1.9% share in your business vs one that has a 9.9% share.

        Compare the transaction fees alone... clickbank is 65-70% higher cost... look at it from the prospective of 1000 transactions... $350 vs $1000 in fees. Look at it from the prospective of 100,000 transactions $35,000 vs $100,000 in just transaction fees alone.

        Sure most people never do that kind of volume... but it puts things in perspective when you are talking about one of the most expensive payment processors. No monthly fees but you pay out the nose.

        The performance of the 9.9% partner is not guaranteed either... there is no promise that they will sign up any affiliates to promote your offer... you may still be on your own recruiting affiliates. There is only the hope... though they will write the checks for you they will also tell you that you cannot price your offer more than $197 and you have to ask permission every time you want to make a change or add an offer.

        Also you may be giving up other things... the ability to sell any product you want without the fear of clickbank rejecting it, the ability to add products for sale in minutes without waiting for approvals from clickbank, the ability to easily integrate sales funnels etc.

        Its actually faster and cheaper to set up a product for sale outside of clickbank and your earning potential is far greater... not to mention the technologies available to you are far better.

        Clickbank is the most expensive and limited ecommerce automation system and payment processor I know of...

        The main benefit is the affiliate database but even that provides little benefit for most publishers who have to recruit their own affiliates anyway to get started.

        It may be a good choice for some... if they can totally game it and truly tap the affiliate database and get affiliates promoting them that otherwise would not do so.

        However for many others that is just a pipe dream and sending their own hard recruited affiliates to clickbank is a mistake that they will regret later when they want solid sales funnel features on the back end, ecommerce, automation, content delivery, and more accurate affiliate tracking and more robust affiliate management features.

        If its a risk you are going to take... make sure its a calculated one.

        Originally Posted by techtamers View Post

        Do you want fast and easy or do you want to penny pinch?

        Fast and easy is Wishlist with Clickbank.

        Penny pinch is paypal - but then you have to set up an affiliate program like idev - etc etc etc Yes, clickbank charges higher fees - but they also manage your affiliate program, paying your affiliates. One less thing for you to do.

        Putting off launching your site in order to get a merchant account and set up new systems puts off generating revenue. Plus you'll also need to build an affiliate force on your own.

        Whatever you decide - move quickly. Load that first month's content, launch your site, then start loading month 2. Don't wait until you have it all "perfect" -

        Jeanette
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        • Profile picture of the author loubo44
          WOW Great insight on the business. I will be getting in contact with you!
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  • Profile picture of the author DrDivina
    I'm using WishList and wouldn't recommend it. Its expensive and real support is almost non-existent. The whole point of a membership site is to make money and have it automated, yet my registration was all glitchy. Support would only send links and screenshots of everything I already had access to. So I hired someone with a lot more knowledge who also found the same problem I did. Only then, after 2 months of my BEGGING FOR HELP, support finally acknowledged there was a problem and added code. But should I have to pay another $360 to find out their software was faulty? And they don't tell you, but you can't double up 1shoppingcart and paypal on recurring payments. I say move on and forget wishlist.
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  • Profile picture of the author loubo44
    New question popped up....

    I have my new membership site that is in development in an add on domain to my main hosting. If things grow too big, or if I wanted to change to a different host how hard is it to take all the files and database along with me using wordpress.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zubair Zm
      Watch video at
      and you will know how easy it is to move your wp from one server to another.
      Regards
      Zm

      Originally Posted by loubo44 View Post

      New question popped up....

      I have my new membership site that is in development in an add on domain to my main hosting. If things grow too big, or if I wanted to change to a different host how hard is it to take all the files and database along with me using wordpress.
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    You can back up your files in an xml file and clone the site using winhttrack or black widow.

    Best of success to you.
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