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Market samurai - Help with keyword evaluation

by magnusmora
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Hi Everyone,

I am fairly new to Market Samurai and just getting to grips with it all. I have found a keyword which I am thinking of targetting. Below is a screen shot of the market samurai competition results.

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I would be intersted to see what others who use Market samurai think about this. My evaluation of this keyword is as follows

Pros

No page ranking pages
Hardly no links to the pages

Cons

Majority of sites are aged
Sites have lots of links to domain
There are some that are full onpage SEO optimised with all Y's in every column.

I think this is probably worth while, I was thinking about using hubpages, which is a high ranking site like the ones listed above. The difference being I could link with keyword specific anchor text and hopefully out rank the others. Or alternatively I could go buy a domain and focus on that instead. Might be better in the long term.

Be interested to see what you think.

Thanks
Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author AnnaHamer
    Make sure you get a domain with the key word in it, and you stand a good chance. Have a look with SEO quake. It's a free tool for fire fox. It will tell you how many backlinks each site in the top-10 have. If it has you tube vids, image results or web 2.0 it's a good sign it's easy to beat.
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  • Profile picture of the author Groovy99
    Originally Posted by magnusmora View Post

    Hi Everyone,

    I am fairly new to Market Samurai and just getting to grips with it all. I have found a keyword which I am thinking of targetting. Below is a screen shot of the market samurai competition results.

    Attachment 3542

    I would be intersted to see what others who use Market samurai think about this. My evaluation of this keyword is as follows

    Pros

    No page ranking pages
    Hardly no links to the pages

    Cons

    Majority of sites are aged
    Sites have lots of links to domain
    There are some that are full onpage SEO optimised with all Y's in every column.

    I think this is probably worth while, I was thinking about using hubpages, which is a high ranking site like the ones listed above. The difference being I could link with keyword specific anchor text and hopefully out rank the others. Or alternatively I could go buy a domain and focus on that instead. Might be better in the long term.

    Be interested to see what you think.

    Thanks
    Steve
    I don't think you can draw any conclusions from this. The feed did not finish populating which is what all those dashes represent. Generally when I see a SEO comparision in MS (which I have been using daily for quite some time) that has the top half dozen slots in dmoz it's going to be a tough nut to beat and often better off going for more low hanging fruit.
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    • Profile picture of the author magnusmora
      Originally Posted by Groovy99 View Post

      I don't think you can draw any conclusions from this. The feed did not finish populating which is what all those dashes represent. Generally when I see a SEO comparision in MS (which I have been using daily for quite some time) that has the top half dozen slots in dmoz it's going to be a tough nut to beat and often better off going for more low hanging fruit.
      Groovy99,

      I see what you are saying, however, if I use an established website, such as hubpages, which is on Yahoo and DMZ. And then did keyword anchor links back to the hubpage, would this not give it the edge. What do the other sites have that hubpages does not? One of the sites listed above is propeller with a 6 month old post. Surely thats no better than Hubpages. Be interested to hear your views.

      Maybe I should just test it and see what happens.
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      • Profile picture of the author Groovy99
        It all depends on the keyword and the niche. Without seeing the competitor pages or knowing the keyword I can't give you an IM opinion. You are welcome to email me the keyword and I will take a look at it for you and give you an assessment of commercial viability.

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        • Profile picture of the author magnusmora
          Originally Posted by Groovy99 View Post

          It all depends on the keyword and the niche. Without seeing the competitor pages or knowing the keyword I can't give you an IM opinion. You are welcome to email me the keyword and I will take a look at it for you and give you an assessment of commercial viability.

          PJC
          Hi Groovy99,

          I have setn you a post, with the keyword. Let me know what you think. I may use this as alive test and give it ago and then tell everyone the keyword after the results.

          Cheers
          Steve
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          • Profile picture of the author SPress
            Hi magnusmora,

            I'm guessing that this is some kind of product based keyword, and the top competitors are sites such as amazon, bizrate...etc? That explains their high BLD's, DA, and DMOZ/YAH inclusion, yet nearly non-existent BLP's and PR 0's.

            People seem to get really intimitated by those kinds of results, which is a good thing for you. These types of keywords can often be very "doable" with some basic on page SEO and of course good backlinks.

            Good Luck!

            Steve
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            • Profile picture of the author magnusmora
              Originally Posted by SPress View Post

              Hi magnusmora,

              I'm guessing that this is some kind of product based keyword, and the top competitors are sites such as amazon, bizrate...etc? That explains their high BLD's, DA, and DMOZ/YAH inclusion, yet nearly non-existent BLP's and PR 0's.

              People seem to get really intimitated by those kinds of results, which is a good thing for you. These types of keywords can often be very "doable" with some basic on page SEO and of course good backlinks.

              Good Luck!

              Steve
              Spress,

              Thanks for that. Your right, thats exactly the types of sites. At first I thought there is no way of outranking these sites. However the more I think about the more I am starting to think that is as you say "doable". I am going to give it a go with a few keywords I have found. See how I get on. Although not sure whether to go with my own domain first or give it a go with web2.0 domain. I may try both at the same time and see which one wins!

              Cheers
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              • Profile picture of the author Groovy99
                Originally Posted by magnusmora View Post

                Spress,

                Thanks for that. Your right, thats exactly the types of sites. At first I thought there is no way of outranking these sites. However the more I think about the more I am starting to think that is as you say "doable". I am going to give it a go with a few keywords I have found. See how I get on. Although not sure whether to go with my own domain first or give it a go with web2.0 domain. I may try both at the same time and see which one wins!

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                Do both. You will find it easier to market autoblog feeds through your own domains rather than through a web 2.0 site, but either way will work. I'll give you a few domain names as well to think over.
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                • Profile picture of the author magnusmora
                  Originally Posted by Groovy99 View Post

                  Do both. You will find it easier to market autoblog feeds through your own domains rather than through a web 2.0 site, but either way will work. I'll give you a few domain names as well to think over.
                  Nice one..cheers groovy. Do autoblog feeds work? I have one which I set up on an old site of mine and I get nothing from it. It has over 3000 posts with adsense and I am lucky if I get 5 hits a day. Dont think google likes it!

                  Thanks
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          • Profile picture of the author Groovy99
            Originally Posted by magnusmora View Post

            Hi Groovy99,

            I have setn you a post, with the keyword. Let me know what you think. I may use this as alive test and give it ago and then tell everyone the keyword after the results.

            Cheers
            Steve
            He has a good keyword with some incredible long tail keyword opportunities he may not have considered yet. I've researched it before. How many blog sites you going to setup around it? I will set you up a keyword split for them and send it to you by pm.
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  • Profile picture of the author TermsB
    As Groovy mentioned, the DMOZ ones are generally much harder to outrank. If the 4-10 are also DMOZ I'd move on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Groovy99
    that whole partial listing was actually scary. most had dmoz. most had yahoo. most had the indicators matched. and most were seriously aged domains. the first online business I bought before I understood a little bit about IM was like that. It was a tough nut to crack although I eventuallly did and it was a good learning experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Groovy99
    Like everything else you have to build traffic to it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Groovy99
      Check your email Steve. I wrote that up from the perspective of national internet marketing. You would probably make a killing focusing on local search marketing in the same general format as well. Would also be much easier to rank for if your domains are in the format of 'citystatekeyword', like nashvilletnwidgets.com
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    Ok, so in that market samurai chart... What should we be paying attention to the most to determine if we can rank? Backlinks, PR, Domain age, etc.? How much green vs. red is recommended?
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    • Profile picture of the author Groovy99
      Like others I generally ignore the colors and focus on the data. In small niches Red generally means the websites in the top 10 serps are being seo optimized which means you will have some competition to deal with.

      To answer your question green means no seo competition, red means seo competition, white means you didn't get a full data load. If you goto the noble samurai website they have a very complete collection of training videos on how to use the product. Tim Godfried and the guys at Niche Blueprint also did a great job explaining how to do it within that IM program.
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