Unauthorized account activity claim... Huh?

by Mike Hill 33 replies
It really infuriates me when a fellow Warrior purchases my WSO and then goes to PayPal within minutes and files an unauthorized account activity claim.

What's up with that..?

I've been using PayPal for quite sometime now and have hundreds of transactions and this has never happened for a WSO...

Is there really that much fraud going on around here or is this just a slickster trying to get his cash back without having to deal with me?

Mike Hill
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Ayres
    Maybe you should report the WF member
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
      and then goes to PayPal within minutes and files an unauthorized account activity claim.
      I would think that should raise red flags at Paypal. I mean, how many people check their emails that frequently and could react that quickly?

      Martin
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      • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
        Originally Posted by Martin Luxton View Post

        I would think that should raise red flags at Paypal. I mean, how many people check their emails that frequently and could react that quickly?

        Martin
        Problem is, they tend to have numpties working at paypal

        Kim
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          Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

          Problem is, they tend to have numpties working at paypal

          Kim
          If numpties means "total pillocks" I will have to agree with you on that one Kim.
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          • Profile picture of the author DonDavis
            I just got hit with another one this morning. Anybody know if Karen Paul is a registered user of the WF?
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            • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
              Originally Posted by DonDavis View Post

              I just got hit with another one this morning. Anybody know if Karen Paul is a registered user of the WF?
              I got hit with one from Karen Paul as well today...

              Mike Hill
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              • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
                Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

                I got hit with one from Karen Paul as well today...

                Mike Hill


                Add me to the list of getting hit by Karen Paul.

                Shannon
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            • Profile picture of the author John Rogers
              Originally Posted by DonDavis View Post

              I just got hit with another one this morning. Anybody know if Karen Paul is a registered user of the WF?
              I got one from Karen Paul as well.

              John
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              • Profile picture of the author Lainie
                Sounds like Karen Paul has some explaining to do

                Best of luck, hope you get it sorted

                Lainie
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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
              Originally Posted by DonDavis View Post

              I just got hit with another one this morning. Anybody know if Karen Paul is a registered user of the WF?
              Don, she's had a number of fraudulent sales against her account. I think it
              was hacked. I sent the IP address of the person to Allen to see if he can
              figure out who it is.
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              • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                Since the name already came up, I'm going to share an email I got from
                them earlier today when I challenged this. A guilty person doesn't write these
                kind of emails. They just cut and run.

                Hi Steven,

                Neither I, nor my wife Karen Paul ordered this product from you. From
                10:09 pm to 2:31 last night and the starting again at 6:50 am this morning
                my wife, Karen Paul had her PayPal account fraudulently accessed and 43
                transactions were processed. I am working with PayPal and my bank to
                resolve this. Thank you for furnishing the IP address where this
                originated. I will be forwarding this information on to PayPal.

                Best regards,

                Ron Paul
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                • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
                  Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                  Since the name already came up, I'm going to share an email I got from
                  them earlier today when I challenged this. A guilty person doesn't write these
                  kind of emails. They just cut and run.

                  Hi Steven,

                  Neither I, nor my wife Karen Paul ordered this product from you. From
                  10:09 pm to 2:31 last night and the starting again at 6:50 am this morning
                  my wife, Karen Paul had her PayPal account fraudulently accessed and 43
                  transactions were processed. I am working with PayPal and my bank to
                  resolve this. Thank you for furnishing the IP address where this
                  originated. I will be forwarding this information on to PayPal.

                  Best regards,

                  Ron Paul
                  Wow, at least you got an email from them... LOL
                  I sent an email to that address so hopefully I'll get a response back.

                  Mike Hill
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                • Profile picture of the author Lance K
                  Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post


                  Hi Steven,

                  Neither I, nor my wife Karen Paul ordered this product from you. From
                  10:09 pm to 2:31 last night and the starting again at 6:50 am this morning
                  my wife, Karen Paul had her PayPal account fraudulently accessed and 43
                  transactions were processed. I am working with PayPal and my bank to
                  resolve this. Thank you for furnishing the IP address where this
                  originated. I will be forwarding this information on to PayPal.

                  Best regards,

                  Ron Paul
                  He didn't even solicit your write in vote?
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              • Profile picture of the author DonDavis
                Any of you have bad deals from any of these folks?

                soundtweakersXyahoo.com
                ndhXalumni.duke.edu
                LauraXkimro2.com
                boucherjvXhotmail.com
                michaelXgreywolfcomputers.com
                karen@kpcollection.com (Karen Paul)

                They have all got me in the last 6 weeks or so. I don't know how many of these I can receive before PP starts crap with my account.

                "Don, she's had a number of fraudulent sales against her account. I think it
                was hacked. I sent the IP address of the person to Allen to see if he can
                figure out who it is."

                I have done that in the past also Steven and I never heard back one way or another.
                Was your product downloaded via IP: 68.96.36.239?
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
          Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

          Problem is, they tend to have numpties working at paypal

          Kim
          You are totally right... Now for some reason PayPal says I have 2 disputes. This blows!

          I found the problem... a lot of people aren't being redirected by PayPal after their transaction. Even if they click the link it gives an error. I know my end is setup correctly, I do this for a living!

          Once again PayPal drops the ball... Congratulations PayPal for making me look like an idiot!

          Mike Hill
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        • Profile picture of the author MarketingFast
          Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

          Problem is, they tend to have numpties working at paypal

          Kim
          Absolutely true!
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        Originally Posted by Martin Luxton View Post

        I would think that should raise red flags at Paypal. I mean, how many people check their emails that frequently and could react that quickly?

        Martin
        Don't try to inject common sense into this!
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    • Profile picture of the author Takuya Hikichi
      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      he couldn't walk away with the product.
      Hey Mike,

      Was your product able to revoke license remotely or something? I asume this is a software instead of PDF?
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  • Profile picture of the author DonDavis
    I have a little trouble myself from time to time. I have 5 instances in the last couple of months where someone has bought a WSO and then file claims that their paypal accounts have been hacked.

    A couple of these people claimed they had no knowledge of a Warrior Forum. So I don't know if it is Warriors buying and then disputing the charges, or somebody here on the forum hacking other people's email and PayPal to make the purchase. It's probably a little of both.

    So don't think for a minute that this is a completely harmless little (huge) community of tightly knitted folks. Yes I know that most of the people on here are genuine, but we do have sharks among us!
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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
    Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

    It really infuriates me when a fellow Warrior purchases my WSO and then goes to PayPal within minutes and files an unauthorized account activity claim.

    What's up with that..?

    I've been using PayPal for quite sometime now and have hundreds of transactions and this has never happened for a WSO...

    Is there really that much fraud going on around here or is this just a slickster trying to get his cash back without having to deal with me?

    Mike Hill
    So, now you're account has been suspended over this, am I right?

    Real cute, isn't it? It's exactly why I stopped taking paypal.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
      Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher View Post

      So, now you're account has been suspended over this, am I right?

      Real cute, isn't it? It's exactly why I stopped taking paypal.
      No my account has not been suspended ... (yet *knocking on head (wood) with hand*)
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
        I just talked with PayPal on the phone... they are going to take a look at that account to see whats going on...

        Mike Hill
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Moser
    Mike,

    I had one of these unauthorized paypal claims from my WSO today too.

    I bet it's the same person. Their initials were K. P.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Rogers
    It appears the site on the domain of Karen Paul's email was hacked.

    http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=9&gl=us
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    Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

    It really infuriates me when a fellow Warrior purchases my WSO and then goes to PayPal within minutes and files an unauthorized account activity claim.

    What's up with that..?

    I've been using PayPal for quite sometime now and have hundreds of transactions and this has never happened for a WSO...

    Is there really that much fraud going on around here or is this just a slickster trying to get his cash back without having to deal with me?

    Mike Hill
    Funny that you post this.. I got my very first one today from my WSO as well. I've never had this claim before with any product I've sold. Today was my first..

    In any case, I just refunded the purchase and killed the download link for that transaction. I wonder if we have the same person who did this? PM me and let's see if we got the same culprit.

    Peter
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  • Profile picture of the author guillopuyol
    I had my first dispute today. I woke up and saw two payments from the same person for my WSO. I refunded the first one thinking it was a mistake and would save the person the grief of asking for a refund.

    Later I check my account again and there is a dispute.

    Tracking the IPs of the person that subscribed and the person that confirms shows to completely different addresses. One is in the US and another one is from india.

    I guess something we have to live with...
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Murdaugh
    Can't believe I didn't notice this thread sooner.

    I had my first "fraudulent transaction" come through from my WSO the other day, user, Karen Paul.

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  • Profile picture of the author ahuddy
    I just went through this a minute ago. Person ordered through paypal. Then they contacted me afterwards from the same email as paypal account. All was fine. The next day (today) he sends me an email saying he never made a purchase from and was going to his bank to claim fraud. Yet again sent from the same email address. I did a domain whois on his website that he asked me to do work on and everything matched up, his name, email, location. WTF? All I can think it could be is alzheimer's.
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