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bettersocial

15 years ago

I don't think EZA would even allow PLR content to be posted. They have a big thing against plr and derived content..

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LynnM 15 years ago

Originally Posted by sashas

I don't think EZA would even allow PLR content to be posted. They have a big thing against plr and derived content..

Yes, but it slips through. The plr is from a trusted source - and the articles in EZA are word for word the exact same ones as in the pack.

Ultimately, it's up to the plr site owners to decide what action to take, but I'm still curious to know what other Warriors have done in this circumstance.

Lynn
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15 years ago

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LynnM

15 years ago

Originally Posted by dave147

If the articles are PLR then the poster has the right to post them as is. It's a question of who can get to the directories (like EZA) first. The articles that come in after that will have to be edited to be accepted. The trick with a PLR article pack is to get them out fast.

As I already mentioned, the terms of service for this particular plr site clearly state that the articles may not be posted to article directories, nor authorship of them claimed. It even gives the reasons why.

Lynn

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Loren Woirhaye 15 years ago

I would suspect the reason why is because the person selling
the articles wants to publish them first and get the juice.
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bettersocial

15 years ago

Originally Posted by dave147

If the articles are PLR then the poster has the right to post them as is. It's a question of who can get to the directories (like EZA) first. The articles that come in after that will have to be edited to be accepted. The trick with a PLR article pack is to get them out fast.

I find it much easier to rewrite PLR. Takes just ten minutes, and you have unique content on your hands.

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LynnM

15 years ago

The tos are to protect the site members...but it still begs the question - would you or have you reported this type of thing, or dismissed it as perhaps a mistake by the poster?

Lynn

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Tina Golden

15 years ago

I don't think they posted it themselves, Dave - the site owners are members here and the Ezine author wasn't one of them. I didn't know that practice took place, though (thanks Loren for pointing it out too). Presumably that's usually non-limited edition plr?

For the record, as long as you include yourself in the number of licenses, it's perfectly acceptable to do this with a limited article package. There is nothing wrong with holding a license for yourself. I know that I will be doing this with some of my PLR packages but instead of offering 40 licenses, I will only offer 39 because I will count myself in the 40.

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Taylor French

15 years ago

Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises

For the record, as long as you include yourself in the number of licenses, it's perfectly acceptable to do this with a limited article package. There is nothing wrong with holding a license for yourself. I know that I will be doing this with some of my PLR packages but instead of offering 40 licenses, I will only offer 39 because I will count myself in the 40.

Tina

That's what I would do. PLR writers already make very little from what I hear. If I was going to release PLR, I would make certain one of the licenses was retained for me.

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cashcow

15 years ago

I think some PLR producers (not me) post the articles on EZA first before they send out the pack. Not sure if that is the case with yours - may be they want to reserve the right to claim authorship and that is why they do not allow the people who get the pack to claim it?

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LynnM

15 years ago

Originally Posted by cashcow

I think some PLR producers (not me) post the articles on EZA first before they send out the pack. Not sure if that is the case with yours - may be they want to reserve the right to claim authorship and that is why they do not allow the people who get the pack to claim it?

I don't think they posted it themselves, Dave - the site owners are members here and the Ezine author wasn't one of them. I didn't know that practice took place, though (thanks Loren for pointing it out too). Presumably that's usually non-limited edition plr?

Lynn

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cma01

15 years ago

Originally Posted by LynnM

I don't think they posted it themselves, Dave - the site owners are members here and the Ezine author wasn't one of them. I didn't know that practice took place, though (thanks Loren for pointing it out too). Presumably that's usually non-limited edition plr?

Lynn

If it is against the TOS of the plr writer, just drop them a note directing them to it. You wouldn't know if that was a pen name for the actual author or not.

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Odhinn

15 years ago

Originally Posted by cashcow

I think some PLR producers (not me) post the articles on EZA first before they send out the pack. Not sure if that is the case with yours - may be they want to reserve the right to claim authorship and that is why they do not allow the people who get the pack to claim it?

This definitely happens, even with many warriors. I bought a PLR pack from some member here, forgot who, and saw the articles were on ezine articles the same day the WSO was offered. Unless there's some crazy day, ezine articles always takes at least a day and a half to post my articles when I submit them.

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Tina Golden

15 years ago

I think some PLR producers (not me) post the articles on EZA first before they send out the pack.

I do think that if someone is going to do this, they ought to disclose it when selling the package. While I would keep a license for myself, I would never post the articles to directories before selling them. I would rewrite them just as if I bought them from someone else.

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VegasGreg

15 years ago

I think some PLR producers (not me) post the articles on EZA first before they send out the pack.

Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises

I do think that if someone is going to do this, they ought to disclose it when selling the package. While I would keep a license for myself, I would never post the articles to directories before selling them. I would rewrite them just as if I bought them from someone else.

Tina

I have found a few PLR sellers that keep a copy for themselves (which is perfectly fine) and they have already submitted them themselves to EZA, yet their license states no submission to EZA (as-is).

I have contacted a few sellers in the past to let them know someone submitted them to EZA (just letting them know, being the nice guy that I am) and violated their terms, and they replied, "Oh, that was me under my alias name".

So, some sellers think the PLR terms and Licenses do not apply to them. I obviously don't buy from them anymore.

TMG, you re right, if it was disclosed ahead of time, that would be fine and applauded. At least at that point we would know ahead of time and make an informed decision to buy or not.

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bravo75

15 years ago

Somehow that sounds a bit like "snitching". Why would you care what others do with their PLR? Is the article outranking your site or something?

Originally Posted by LynnM

Hi,

Having just purchased a plr pack, I had a look to see to see how many had used the articles unedited. Someone had posted them word-for-word on EZA. The plr site terms of service don't allow anyone to claim authorship or submit to article directories, rewritten or not.

I'm sure most of us have seen this loads of times...but has anyone ever taken action and reported the culprit?

Lynn

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LynnM

15 years ago

Originally Posted by bravo75

Somehow that sounds a bit like "snitching". Why would you care what others do with their PLR? Is the article outranking your site or something?

That's the problem - and it could be argued that it's up to the plr creators to police this themselves. And no, lol, I haven't even used the articles yet. I was just curious to know if anyone ever did anything about this.

Lynn

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bravo75

15 years ago

Oh, someone is ranking high in the serps with the word for word PLR article that you also own. I would just put it down to "he/she got their first". Fair play to him or her. As they say in Scotland - tough titties

Originally Posted by LynnM

That's the problem - and it could be argued that it's up to the plr creators to police this themselves. And no, lol, I haven't even used the articles yet. I was just curious to know if anyone ever did anything about this.

Lynn

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LynnM

15 years ago

Originally Posted by bravo75

Oh, someone is ranking high in the serps with the word for word PLR article that you also own. I would just put it down to "he/she got their first". Fair play to him or her. As they say in Scotland - tough titties

No, the problem is that, like you said, it does to a certain degree seem like snitching.

Lynn

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Tina Golden 15 years ago

I would let the owners know. As a product creator myself, I would want someone to let me know when people are breaking the license and I would do the same for others.

But Alexa, I wouldn't be bothered by seeing PLR posted on EZA because I would assume that I needed to change it in order to use any PLR that I bought. I don't use any PLR as is, not even what I create. The only thing with stuff that I have created is that I don't change it as much as I would if it were someone else's PLR.

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- bravo75 15 years ago
  
  But aren't PLR articles just duplicate content anyway? Unless, of course you buy them the same day the vendor puts them up for sale and you are the first one in. I don't really see the problem here, unless the vendor himself sticks them on Ezine before selling them. Am I missing something here?
  
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  Well, you'd care if you were planning to buy more articles from the same vendor in future and didn't want to see them on EZA the day after, surely?
  
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cashcow

15 years ago

Presumably that's usually non-limited edition plr?

I'm not sure about that, maybe. I only mention it because we had a thread on here the other day about PLR and the OP was asking if that was the norm. I think she had heard somewhere to post it yourself first before you distribute the pack. I'm not sure who all does that but was just wondering if maybe your provider did.

As far as your original question goes I might mention it to the PLR provider but it's not really anything I would spend too much time thinking about. Presumably you would rewrite yours anyway so no harm to you, right?

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LynnM

15 years ago

Originally Posted by cashcow

As far as your original question goes I might mention it to the PLR provider but it's not really anything I would spend too much time thinking about. Presumably you would rewrite yours anyway so no harm to you, right?

Yes, I always do that anyway.

Lynn

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Bev Clement

15 years ago

It depends on the rights given with the PLR.

Recently someone asked if people would buy PLR if it was already on EZA, they gave links to their articles so you could read them before deciding to buy.

Like Tina, I always keep 1 license, and if you look at EZA TOS you are allowed to put PLR articles as long as you are the original author. That is the author not a buyer.

I would contact the person and ask them, it would save people pre-guessing what might have happened.

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Loren Woirhaye

15 years ago

How are such "rights" enforceable?

I'm no lawyer, but as I see it these "rights" statements with
Resale rights and PLR products are basically telling the
buyer the seller expects him/her to abide by a gentlemen's
agreement.

And as you've no doubt observed, many marketers aren't
too concerned with gentlemanly behavior.

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bravo75

15 years ago

Then, if someone were to purchase PLR articles and stick them on a blog/site and ranked highly in the serps, would the same rules apply? I thought you were allowed to do whatever you want with purchased PLR articles.

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silvervixen

15 years ago

I would not report anyone. I am too busy writing my own stuff and doing my own marketing to care what others are doing.

I don't use PLR, so I don't know all of the ins and outs of it, but from what limited understanding I have of it, isn't PLR just collections of articles that are either purchased or given away in packs for anyone to use?

I say this, because as I understand EZA's TOS, the reason EZA does not allow PLR is that no one can claim exclusive rights to it, and EZA only allows you to publish articles to which you have exclusive rights (whether or not you've written them yourself.)

Just wondering.

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silvervixen

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

If I'd sold you this PLR, I'd be really grateful to you for letting me know this had happened, for all the reasons I gave above.

It's not about whether EZA's terms have been breached. That's their problem and their business.

It's about whether the vendor's terms have been breached, because that's what affects the other customers and possibly the vendor's reputation as to the usefulness of his material, surely?

I see what you're saying. Like I said, I don't use PLR so I don't know the ins and outs of it. I guess it would depend on the license.

Here's a question I have since I'm new to this ghost writing stuff: if someone hires me to write an article (or a set of articles) for them and I give them exclusive rights to it, doesn't that also mean they can turn around and sell that article if they chose to?

I mean, I wouldn't care if someone wanted to sell it to someone else, since they've got exclusive rights...I would care if they wanted to put it into a PLR pack and sell that at large for anyone else to use over and over again since THAT would affect the value of my work.

Is there some way to guard against this, or is this just sort of a cost of doing business?

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cybergod 15 years ago

I think who ever created the PLR have copied from Ezine also. It makes some sense. Even some pdf downloaded these days wont pass copyscape. Definitely Ezine wont accept these PLR articles.

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Bev Clement

15 years ago

Originally Posted by silvervixen

I mean, I wouldn't care if someone wanted to sell it to someone else, since they've got exclusive rights...I would care if they wanted to put it into a PLR pack and sell that at large for anyone else to use over and over again since THAT would affect the value of my work.

Is there some way to guard against this, or is this just sort of a cost of doing business?

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Welcome to the world of ghostwriting. If you sell someone articles or any other writing which is exclusive rights, it means they pay to own it and do what they want with it.

Why would it affect the value of your work. Most people wouldn't know you wrote it as you are the ghostwriter.

If you don't like that part, then I would suggest you don't sell exclusive articles.

Most writers who start out don't consider this. A person might write a series of articles for $40 and the marketer will then sell it as a wso and could make $4000 for it.

Don't think it could happen? Wrong, it happens a lot of time, because too many writers don't consider marketing themselves.

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Trieu

15 years ago

I know ezine dont actually allow PLR, but I would of thought they would check it first before they posted it

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Victor Edson

15 years ago

Write EZA an email thanking them for slapping out all their unique content writers a few months ago, and keeping the spammers. Good Job EzineArticles!

Seriously though, if you're using EZA, you should look into some other directories. GoArticles, and ArticlesBase both have a higher ctr for me, plus they don't mind me submitting unique content with a link to a relevant page, unlike the EZA Nazi's.

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digigo

15 years ago

@Lynn it is shame is the author does not take action.. it means you just bought something that is free to the joe public.. my advice: buyer be aware.. do a prelim search before spending any money on PLR

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