Grumpy old Farts

14 years ago

IzeaFest had generally "younger" people

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Ken Strong 14 years ago

What's your definition of "old," you whippersnapper? And GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
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Killer Joe 14 years ago

I think most people don't have a choice about getting older.

Don't hold it against them...

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- Chris Steiner 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Killer Joe
  
  I think most people don't have a choice about getting older.
  
  Don't hold it against them...
  
  KJ
  
  Actually, I'm quite certain they do have a choice... But getting older is by far the better one
  
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Arun Pal Singh

14 years ago

May be they feel digitally young ;-)

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craigc1980 14 years ago

Yes your right.

Old farts have to make money too
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- FredFarnes 14 years ago
  
  I've been called grumpy. Now I'm an old fart too. What can you do?
  
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Dan C. Rinnert 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Arun Pal Singh

May be they feel digitally young ;-)

I know I do.
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VegasGreg

14 years ago

I would imagine some of these speakers haven't personally updated their sites in many years. Just set 'em and forget 'em.

I used to see the same scenario in the mortgage and real estate industry,

We had an older lady in our office and I saw some new flyers on her desk and asked her "who the hot girl was in the photos, is that your daughter?". She said, "No, that is me".

Oops.

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Nahm D. Plume

14 years ago

Perhaps they're using the "new math" as applies to age?

"40 is the new 20"

If nature hasn't cooperated, help it along.

Unless they're being deliberately disingenuous...

NDP

PS. I'm 31-1/2 years old which is probably causing my 35 yo son and 33 yo daughter some concern.

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marketguy

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Nahm D. Plume

Perhaps they're using the "new math" as applies to age?

"40 is the new 20"

If nature hasn't cooperated, help it along.

Unless they're being deliberately disingenuous...

NDP

PS. I'm 31-1/2 years old which is probably causing my 35 yo son and 33 yo daughter some concern.

does "i am 20 with 23 years of experience count"?

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Michael Oksa

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Quentin

I have been to a few conferences over the last few years and amazed at how old a lot of the speakers are.

You look on their website and there is a beautiful picture of them 20 years ago then you meet them in person and they are a lot older.

Now this is not meant as a criticism but an observation.

What do you think?

I think if that's what sticks in your memory most, then you may be missing the point.

That's not meant to be critical, just an observation.

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Profit-smart

14 years ago

I like old people. They've been around longer than us, so listen up. I dont know where my generation developed this disdain for our elders.

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warfore 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Profit-smart

I like old people. They've been around longer than us, so listen up. I dont know where my generation developed this disdain for our elders.

I like that young man's attitude. Keep it up son, you'll go far!
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wemakeiteasy

14 years ago

Yeah, I've encountered what you're talking about. Usually, they still stick to the old school method of marketing and promotion.

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jacktackett

14 years ago

Gosh - I'm feeling older today for some reason.....

Like folks said - we don't have a lot of choice in getting older :-) Though if I were a bit more vain I might think about dying my hair - at Christmas my youngest son had a bit of a melt down in the mall so we had a little time out on a bench. A nice lady came over to ask if she could help with my grandson...ouch.

So we use our real pictures so people know we're real people, but we do have a bit of an ego, so when I lose my hair I'll probably still keep the image of my gray hair up ;-)

besides, Some of us have to doctor our pictures to look older - like me and Elmer Hurlstone. Otherwise with our Greek-god like physiques we'd spend so much time chasing off women (and men) that we'd never get any marketing done.

oops - did I say that out loud?

--Jack

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MadameBusiness

14 years ago

But getting back to the original comment - who wouldn't use a decent pic of themselves?

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jacktackett

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MadameBusiness

But getting back to the original comment - who wouldn't use a decent pic of themselves?

Agreed, but what I think the OP is getting at is the question 'should the photo reflect recent history?'

IM is also not the only place this happens - many of the photos of columnists in newspapers and magazines do not always reflect the current image.

Many celebrities look a lot different in person as well without hours of makeup, hair enhancement, etc.

--Jack

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Kay King 14 years ago

You see the same thing on book jackets and in newspaper columns. People age on the outside - but on the inside they don't change. They still may think of themselves as the person they were in their "best" years and that is the image they choose to use. Remember the term "young at heart".

Why do people show their photos? Because they want you to "know who I am". For many people, "who I am" hasn't changed even though the looks have. But then, many probably just never get around to getting a new photo taken:rolleyes:

Top sellers in any field have the ability to sell to the "how I see myself" of their target market.

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Michael Worthington

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jacktackett

Agreed, but what I think the OP is getting at is the question 'should the photo reflect recent history?'

IM is also not the only place this happens - many of the photos of columnists in newspapers and magazines do not always reflect the current image.

Many celebrities look a lot different in person as well without hours of makeup, hair enhancement, etc.

--Jack

Yeah, here's me without makeup:

And with just a little touchup...

Yeah, I've encountered what you're talking about. Usually, they still stick to the old school method of marketing and promotion.

Well, scoff at "Old School" all you want, but without those "old school" methods of marketing, you wouldn't be looking at the best opportunity ever to get rich!

The basic principles of marketing never change - you find out what people want to buy and sell it to them.

The only thing that changes is the method you might use to reach them most effectively, and real marketers know this and adapt to the times.

Even Jim Straw, one of the greats of "Old School" mail order has moved some of his operation online.

Michael

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Online Bliss

14 years ago

People age on the outside - but on the inside they don't change

If you are just complaining about their looks
why do you assume they are grumpy?

If the water hose wasn't frozen I'd force you off my lawn. LOL

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jazbo

14 years ago

Perhaps they don't want people thinking they are old farts?

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NewbiesDiary

14 years ago

Growing Old Is Inevitable - Growing Up Is Optional

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Chris Worner

14 years ago

I'm grumpy and I'm only 21 so does that make me old?

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Paul Myers 14 years ago

Dammit, Quentin. I was sure this was going to be a riff on the mods.

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JohnMcCabe

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jacktackett

Some of us have to doctor our pictures to look older - like me and Elmer Hurlstone. Otherwise with our Greek-god like physiques we'd spend so much time chasing off women (and men) that we'd never get any marketing done.

oops - did I say that out loud?

--Jack

Jack, I too have the body of a god. Only in my case, it's the Bhudda...

One reason for not updating the photo may be vanity. More likely, though, is a reluctance to dilute the branding value of a familiar photo.

Look at Dear Abby, or Ann Landers...

Both sisters bought the farm years ago, yet they don't look a day over thirty.

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Tracy Yates

14 years ago

With me, it's "what you see is what you get". The image I used for my avatar to the left of here was taken late last year, so I still look pretty much the same. Only difference is, my hair is a little shorter and it's blonde now....again

I'll be turning the big "4-0" this year, but don't feel a day over 25. Thanks mom and dad for the great genes!

Tracy

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Brian Tayler

14 years ago

Eh its all relative.

My 20 yr old fiance just said I was getting old because I'm 27 now, which means I'm almost 30!

Needless to say... I don't know many people who would say I'm "old."

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WD Mino

14 years ago

I wish I could get the opportunity to sit and listen at a conference full of experience and things I did not know or ever would think of to get me further ahead. A conference where they had a combined experience of over a hundreds years yeah I want to scoff at that for sure how dare they.
is there an actual point to this thread?

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