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14 years ago

Impossible to answer without knowing what your requirements are.

Wordpress suits for most applications... otherwise something custom built if you have more advanced needs.

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Istvan Horvath

14 years ago

This is the third thread (and the second just today) that you started about the same: pushing the idea of "custom built CMS" vs. other platforms.

Why? - if I may ask.

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jinmin

14 years ago

Wordpress is one of the mot powerful yet very user-friendly. Powerful plugins are being created for Wordpress to extend your site functionality and surprisingly most are free !

You can't go wrong with Wordpress.

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mogulmedia

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jinmin

Wordpress is one of the mot powerful yet very user-friendly. Powerful plugins are being created for Wordpress to extend your site functionality and surprisingly most are free !

You can't go wrong with Wordpress.

I have to agrre. WP is an awesome piece of kit that I'm in love with in a geeky way.

The constant improvements make it very hard to beat and I don't know why people use anything else!

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jmorris18

14 years ago

Hey guys , I am just trying to get a feel of what type of platform each of you like the best.. There are some great products on the commercial market - Sitefinity , Expression Engine , and of course WP plus many others. However , we also know that WP is a big security concern. So do you guys use these other commercial platforms and enjoy the benefits they provide , or do you have your CMS custom built just for your needs? Also, what are the benefits a commercial platform will provide compared to one you custom build or have built ?

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jmorris18

14 years ago

There is also Type Pad and Movable Type that is built on the PERL platform.

What benefits would a Perl platform lack compared to say .NET or PHP?

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14 years ago

Check out cms builder by interactive tools. My "Unstoppable Joy!" book site is totally powered by it and the script and the company behind it are top notch.

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jgarrison

14 years ago

I've used a number of CMS products over the years including a site built with Durpal for a couple of years but I also vote for WordPress. I don't think there's any product easier to install, maintain, and customize.

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Taylor French

14 years ago

I use Wordpress for most of my stuff. I have tried a few others, but they were very tricky to use. Joomla was particularly difficult to use.

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jmorris18

14 years ago

Hi Ed , thanks so much for your recommendation. I will check these guys out at Interactive Tools..

Also , are they pretty good with offering updates ? How is their security?

I know WP is a user friendly platform and you can pretty much do anything with it. My biggest concern with WP is their security.. I am seeing more and more posts on this forum as well as others where users have had their blogs hacked.. This sickens me knowing I could have a profitable blog , great traffic and suddenly one day Google labels my site ( visiting this site may harm your computer ) There goes all the hard work the blog owner had put into their business.. .

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jmorris18

14 years ago

I see that some business owners use a PHP platform and there are others who prefer to use .NET etc - What makes a user prefer one over the other? Also, there platforms that are built on perl such as Movable Type , Type Pad Pro.. Any feedback on this will be appreciated.

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juzanobo

14 years ago

still wordpress FTW

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managepro

14 years ago

Joomla for Membership Websites and Dynamic sites with functionality.

Wordpress for Blogs and Static sites.

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tomcam

14 years ago

WordPress all the way. Security is irrelevant. Just get the right backup plugin (WP-DBManager), have it email you a backup every day, and if your site gets hacked just change the password and reinstall.

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Marty S 14 years ago

Wordpress for autoblogs, Joomla! for sites with multiple (real people) contributors.
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GeorgR.

14 years ago

I have a Drupal site, it SEOs very well..but maintenance is a pain in the ***...at this point i would say wordpress even if drupal is very powerful too.

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JayXtreme

14 years ago

I can't answer just one..

Each has it's own benefits in individual situations...

Joomla and Wordpress being top of the class

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Emmanuel ED

14 years ago

If you're looking for an easy to use platform with lots of functionality then you should go with Wordpress. (PHP)

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John Rogers

14 years ago

I discovered Elxis about a month ago and am going to give it a spin. It's based on Mambo architecture and appears to have much more going for it out of the box than Mambo or Joomla.

I'd give Drupal a shot, but frankly don't want to invest the time in the steep learning curve.

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jmorris18

14 years ago

Hey John , thanks so much for the recommendation. I will check out what Elxis CMS has to offer..

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Technista

14 years ago

CMS Made Simple, hands down. Templates are easy to modify with HTML, SMARTY tags, and CSS. Open source, easy install, PHP/MySQL. Lots of cool modules for membership sites, galleries, newsletters, etc...

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Chris Worner

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ProductCreator

I would not say that WP is especially a security risk. It may be a big target simply due to its success but if you keep it up to date then I don't see a problem.

it is a security risk because it is open source software which the hackers have access to and canexploit any holes in it which is why it has to be constantly updated.

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jmorris18

14 years ago

Hey, have any of you seen this CMS? Showcase | MODx CMS / CMF

What are your thoughts ?

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jmorris18

14 years ago

How about this resource ? Serendipity Serendipity Weblog System

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jmorris18

14 years ago

Hey John , the link you recommended in your posts where you mention Elxis CMS. I see it links to CMS Critics and was just made aware that CMS Critics is built on the Serendipity platform. Not a bad looking blog.

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eibhlin 14 years ago

WordPress. No contest. With free, useful plugins appearing daily, WP has been a joy to work with.
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adpq 14 years ago

I use joomla extensively and run wordpress on some sites too. Vbulletin for message boards, but also can have a CMS style feature to it. I don't really care for drupal or anything else for that matter as these do it all.
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bollytintin

14 years ago

I have been using Wordpress for years and it comes top of my list. I learnt Joomla last year and I also love it. so my list will be:

1) WP
2) Joomla

will definitely check out the other recommendations to see if I can increase my skills by learning them

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TelegramSam

14 years ago

There is absolutely no question which is the best.

Oh......in case you didn't know already, it is:

DRUPAL :-)

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richdirtygirl

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jmorris18

Hello Warriors , What in your opinion is the best CMS to use in 2010 ?

(ASP , .NET , PHP, PERL )

Commercial Application or Custom Built ?

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Sorry handsome,

you lost me somewhere...

ASP, etc... are not CMS, they are programming languages, or i am even blonder than I thought?

I wouldn't go custom in a million years, you are the betatester...

Commercial, maybe but no need for it...

We use WP for blogs (almost don't use it at all), Joomla for mid size websites, Drupal for big authority sites.

Laura

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by jmorris18

Hello Warriors , What in your opinion is the best CMS to use in 2010 ?

(ASP , .NET , PHP, PERL )

Jason, what you listed are programming languages or environments, not CMS's. Do you understand the difference? If you had a programming background, or wanted to get into programming, I could discuss the distinctions of programming languages. But if you just want to get things done in your business, pick the package that works best for you and learn just enough of its underlying language to make any customizations you need.

Commercial Application or Custom Built ?

This leaves out the third option, the one that makes the most sense for many IM warriors: a free, open source system with excellent support, third-party add-ins and plenty of tutorials. It seems that Wordpress, Joomla (often with VirtuMart) and Drupal consistently are high rated here.

I agree with the question about your requirements. Asking "what's the best" without knowing your criteria makes it difficult to answer. What's the best car for someone on a tight budget, someone who wants to tinker with their hot-rod, someone who wants low maintenance, someone who wants luxury, someone who takes long road trips, someone who is rich and wants an unusually exclusive vehicle, an aggressive a-hole who wants a car they use to intimidate slower drivers? Each of these people might have a different "best car" for them: perhaps Hyundai, Acura, Toyota, Mercedes, a minivan, Rolls-Royce, and BMW, respectively.

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Brad Lindsay

14 years ago

Really depends on what the site will be used for.

For example, if you're planning to build a large commercial site for a business, Joomla might be a better solution than Wordpress but it does have a steep learning curve.

This is not a large site but my UK business site for example is built on Joomla Line UK Internet Ltd

I don't think any site or script can claim to be 100% secure. When you hear of Wordpress sites being hacked, remember that this could also be down to poor management and poor maintenance. It's important to use secure passwords and vitally important to keep up with security updates.

Any site can get hacked if security is neglected and the security patches and updates are not been applied.

Also beware of adding poorly written plug-ins that could present a security risk to your site. Only install tried and tested and trusted plug-ins.

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Ralf Skirr

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jmorris18

Hello Warriors , What in your opinion is the best CMS to use in 2010 ?

(ASP , .NET , PHP, PERL )

Commercial Application or Custom Built ?

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Jason

ASP, .NET , PHP, PERL are not content management systems, not even close. In that way the question does not make much sense....

Also the alternative to custom build is not 'commercial application' as many great CMSes are open source and non-commercial. Just check Wordpress, Drupal, Joomla, and many more.

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jmorris18

14 years ago

Ralf , There are CMS platforms built with ASP , .NET , PERL ETC - Sitefinity is built on the .NET platform , WP is built on the PHP platform , and Type Pad is built on the PERL platform. This is what I was trying to say. Why would a user choose one over the other - .NET , PHP , PERL etc

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jmorris18 14 years ago

Laura , Chris and Brad - Thanks so much for your feedback.. Laura ,thanks for pointing out the reason of not going custom. Chris, thinks for pointing out the different examples of when choosing a platform based on needs. Brad , thanks for sharing information on Joomla , and security concerns with all platforms.

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  Laura , Chris and Brad - Thanks so much for your feedback.. Laura ,thanks for pointing out the reason of not going custom.
  
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by jmorris18

Ralf , There are CMS platforms built with ASP , .NET , PERL ETC - Sitefinity is built on the .NET platform , WP is built on the PHP platform , and Type Pad is built on the PERL platform. This is what I was trying to say. Why would a user choose one over the other - .NET , PHP , PERL etc

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Honestly, if the average user is anything like myself, you don't care if the thing is built on coffee and donuts.

The end user experience for installation and general daily usage is what is most important.

I think the bulk of marketers here are going to go wordpress on you for it's easy wysiwyg posting, access to easily edit template without having to dive into the host, massive amount of plugins - and those can now be uploaded without futzing on the server - bulk of them free, massive amount of free templates available, Documentation available left right and sideways to figure out issues, and development does not seem to be slowing down any time soon.

JMO

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kidino

14 years ago

I'd go with Wordpress too. In fact just delivered a custom theme with training to a small government agency. One thing I like about WordPress, you never have to touch the original source code. You can customize everything from your own custom theme.

You can make Wordpress do pretty much anything...

But anyway, I just want to mention Squarespace and in case anybody here use them. They may not be as flexible, or has many features as WordPress, but one of their strong points is their architecture. You can get dugged, technorati, techcrunch, mashable ... and your site will still be alive.

They are a hosted solution, BTW... Imagining my WordPress on Rackspace Cloud Sites... maybe something like that. But Cloud Site starts at $100/mo.

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jmorris18

14 years ago

Hi Kidino ,
Thanks for the feedback.. Wow - I would have not thought that a government agency would be using WP due to open source and security concerns that it has.. I would love to hear more about your work with WP..

You say you never have to touch the WP source code - I thought it was good to go and change items such as the admin panel folder such as wp.admin , wp-settings.php, wp-login.php, wp-load.php etc and others

Also, thanks for the mention of Squarespace. Have you personally used them? Is their platform built off of PHP? Any other feedback you can provide on them would be great.

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Originally Posted by kidino

I'd go with Wordpress too. In fact just delivered a custom theme with training to a small government agency. One thing I like about WordPress, you never have to touch the original source code. You can customize everything from your own custom theme.

You can make Wordpress do pretty much anything...

But anyway, I just want to mention Squarespace and in case anybody here use them. They may not be as flexible, or has many features as WordPress, but one of their strong points is their architecture. You can get dugged, technorati, techcrunch, mashable ... and your site will still be alive.

They are a hosted solution, BTW... Imagining my WordPress on Rackspace Cloud Sites... maybe something like that. But Cloud Site starts at $100/mo.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by jmorris18

I would have not thought that a government agency would be using WP due to open source and security concerns that it has..

Open source can be great for a government organization. If they can get enough features without having to pay for the code, why not? This way, there is no worry that any public information will ever be lost in copyrighted, patented, discontinued, or unmodifiable software.

The government can also get to completely customize anything they need, and publish their customizations which in turn can help the rest of the economy benefit from the tax-funded development efforts.

The government, as could any user of an open source system, might also pay for a commercial vendor to provide support and customization services for the free code.

Any software product, open or closed source, has security questions that need intelligent answers. Proper investigation and configuration are always needed whenever installing systems that will be available to the general public. For example, both Windows and Linux can be careless installed in ways that leave security holes open, or thoughtfully configured by an expert in a way that minimizes security risks.

Notice that there are some people who post here about how their Wordpress blogs were hacked... however, we don't see a lot of other Warriors say "exactly the same thing happened to me!" That's because the security holes are almost always on a particular installation or server.

Look at how chatty warriors are, and how popular Wordpress is among online marketers. Then ask yourself, if Wordpress was full of security holes that bite everyone, wouldn't there be a lot more discussion about them?

You say you never have to touch the WP source code - I thought it was good to go and change items such as the admin panel folder such as wp.admin , wp-settings.php, wp-login.php, wp-load.php etc and others

You can, but usually you don't need to. Most of the changes in the way the site looks are controlled by the theme, while most of the changes in the way the site works are controlled by point & click administrative settings or by plugins. Experts can certainly go in and change the code, but for a beginner it's unlikely you'll need or want to make any php edits. Most things you'd think of changing already have a plugin available anyway.

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Gama Seva

14 years ago

ASP, .NET , PHP, PERL are not CMS these are just scripting language or extensions types.

Still, Wordpress is the best followed by Joomla.

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Mo Faisal

14 years ago

WordPress all the way.
And with all the plugins everything feels like a walk in the park!!

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jmorris18

14 years ago

I see that squarespace.com is a great resource. However, if I understand correctly you have purchase a separate account for each site you own. So, if you want the advanced at 20.00 per month and you had 8 sites you would need to purchase 8 accounts at 160.00 total.

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jmorris18

14 years ago

Does anyone know of another service that is similar to the Build a Website - Squarespace service? I know there is Free Blogs, Pro Blogs & Business Blogs from TypePad.com | TypePad but their platform is built on PERL.

Are there less benefits with a PERL platform?

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kidino

14 years ago

WordPress is great. And with security issues, there are things that you need to do before hand like hide your version, hide your login, etc... and you have to keep upgrading them with new versions. That would protect your client from hack threats. New upgrades would close up recently known issues. And you can change maintenance for that

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About Squarespace, I don't have personal info about them. But I read about them at HighScalability.com. HighScalability uses them too...

High Scalability - High Scalability - Squarespace Architecture - A Grid Handles Hundreds of Millions of Requests a Month

High Scalability - High Scalability - HighScalability has Moved to Squarespace.com!

But I guess you are right about the pricing. I think the main thing about Squarespace is their durability. Your site will be hosted on some cloud/grid architecture which can withstand a sudden spike in traffic. Your site is not on any single server. It's on all of the servers. And all of the servers handle all of the sites. There's no one single point of failure like shared hosting. It doesn't matter if some servers fail, your site will still be alive.

With a normal shared hosting, if your server is down, your website goes down with you.

Hmm... I just thought of another alternative. Why not get WordPress.com and get a domain with it. I am not sure how much is that. And I am not sure if WordPress.com is even comparable to Squarespace, but maybe near... and cheaper.

OK, if a durable website is the objective, then another option is the one I mentioned earlier. Host it on Rackspace Cloud Site that starts at $100/mo. You can install WordPress there.

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jmorris18

14 years ago

Wow , I must say this is pretty cool in regards to Build a Website - Squarespace where Kevin Rose has moved Digg over to their platform and the traffic he is generating for the costs is amazing.. Check this out The Official Squarespace Blog - Blog - Kevin Rose Comes toSquarespace

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KristiDaniels

14 years ago

For marketers, it would have to be the Internet Business Box (Wordpresss with site-wide multivariate testing an automated traffic generation).

For non-marketers, Wordpress is still king. It's free and does the job if you don't care about making money so you don't need to do split testing. Plug-ins (usually not free) help with traffic generation.

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Marian 14 years ago

My number 1 for 2009 and 2010 is WORDPRESS! :-) I have lots of WP blogs and they're doing great. :-)

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Jay D

14 years ago

Joomla is best for membership sites otherwise wordpress is the king!

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